Mike Nichols

postGame: Nationals 10 Mets 4
By Mike Nichols - May 12, 2008 10:29 pm

The Mets (19–17) lost to the Nationals (16–23) by the score of 10 to 4 tonight in Shea Stadium.

For a full recap and box score, check out SNY.tv.

Is today September 24, 2007? If not, it sure feels like it.

Nelson Figueroa’s night started out well with a clean first inning strike out tow, but it went down hill from their. Figgy’s wildness was his downfall tonight - walking five which contributed to six runs in his five innings pitched. He got out of jams in the second, third and fourth innings allowing one run in each, but it caught up with him in the fifth when he allowed three runs to cross the plate, two of which came on a RBI double from Lastings Milledge.

You could also see he was clearly annoyed by the Elijah Dukes’ led little league cheers coming from the Nationals dugout in the third and fourth innings. And he should have been. I’m not sure what to make of it, but it’s clearly not something that belongs in a major league dugout.

You can sum up Jorge Sosa’s night in one word: Yuck! Sosa allowed four runs on four hits and two walks. It’s the fourth time this season he has allowed four or more runs in an appearance that has lasted less than two innings. If the Mets decide to option Joe Smith to the minors rather than DFA Sosa it will be a mistake. Sosa deserves to be on this team as much as I deserve a fork in the eye.

Speaking of Smith, he struck out the side in impressive fashion in the top of the eighth. Smith deserves to be here, not Sosa.

Duaner Sanchez and Billy Wagner each threw a scoreless inning, as well.

Hey, Moises Alou, I love the hussle, but dude, you’re scaring me with the head first slides. Take it easy, buddy. Take. It. Easy.

I know it was a cold, damp, windy evening, hell even Mex looked as if he was ready to shovel his drive way, but wow, where was the crowd tonight?

Speaking of the crowd, I know Carlos Delgado struggled in the field and at the plate tonight going 0-for-5 with two strikeouts, but their was simply no reason for the Shea faithful to boo him tonight. Delgado has played well recently and came into the game with a nine-game hitting streak pushing his average from .198 to .236. Unreal and uncalled for.

On the bright side tonight, Alou, Jose Reyes, David Wright, Carlos Beltran and Damion Easley had good offensive nights, and they attempted a late game comeback loading the bases in the eighth, but it wasn’t to be as couldn’t come up with the big hit. However, it wasn’t the bats that let them down, it was the Mets pitching, namely Figueroa and Sosa.

Seriously, did we time warp to the last week in September?

Still waiting for this team to take off and reel off a decent size winning streak, perhaps one will start tomorrow.

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Comment by ToastyJoe
2008-05-12 22:31:39

The should keep Sosa around. I’m sure they can always use another good batting practice pitcher.

Comment by ToastyJoe
2008-05-12 22:31:59

The=They

Comment by dwright012
2008-05-12 22:41:20

Livan Hernandez is now 6-1.. I don’t get this team… we’ll get a piece like Johan.. and not give him all but guaranteed 200 innings with Livan for 5 million..

Schneider gets 5 mill.. Delgagdo 12 that we pay… and we wont add 200 innings to the rotation for 5..

This is why we haven’t won a WS in 21 years.

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Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 22:42:39

I bet you were saying that back in February, weren’t you? Either way, its hard to give a guy a major league contract when your roster is full at the time, but hey, details are details, why worry yourself with that!

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-05-12 22:45:30

full of what? Jorge Sosa? Nelson Figueora? Coming soon Adam Bostick? Brady Clark? How many other scrubs have we had up on this roster?

Details details indeed…

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 22:49:33

the MAJOR LEAGUE ROSTER, which as late as March included El Duque and Pedro. If you wanted to sign Livan Hernandez you had to guarantee him a spot on a major league roster, and at that point, we had 5 pitchers who already had guaranteed spots. Now, if we had a crystal ball and could see exactly when and if injuries would happen, we’d be all set, but unfortunately we don’t, and therefore you can’t guarantee a guy a spot in the starting rotation of a major league team when you already have those spots filled at the time he signed with another team.

 
Comment by kjmcc0729
2008-05-12 22:49:52

Livan and Lohse were both considered this offseason. both are innings-eaters. and darkstar, do you prefer relying on nelson figeroa, formally of the CHIHUAHA’s, and Bostick to be your number 5?

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 22:52:14

You people simply do not understand how rosters work. You need flexibility, and if you sign a guy like Lohse to a major league deal, he has to stay there all season, and it just so turned out that we had 5 starters with guaranteed contracts going into season. Obviously right now it hasn’t worked out, but c’mon, hindsight is 20/20, can’t you people understand that?

 
Comment by kjmcc0729
2008-05-12 22:55:48

pelfrey could have started in the minors. would’ve if el duque wasn’t hurt. besides, the talk in the offseason was about making el duque a reliever and signing an innings eater. livan and lohse were cheap. and it is not 20/20, they gave serious consideration to lohse but did not do anything cause they thought he would want a multi-year deal.

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 22:59:18

exactly, but the thinking was El Duque would be our 5th starter, I do’nt think anyone thought he would just never pitch again, and I don’t think El Duque to the pen was ever a serious consideration. Livan signed in February, and at that point we had 5 starters lined up, so that’s a moot point. Lohse I could see, but even so, he signed March 14th, at that point, like I said, there wasn’t the thinking that El Duque would be out THIS long.

 
Comment by kjmcc0729
2008-05-12 23:03:03

rather short-sighted, don’t ya think? el duque has been unreliable injury-wise since he got here and so has Pedro.

and hernandez is not a moot point. guys who pitch a lot of innings and come cheap are valuable. instead we are stuck with unproven guys as the anchors to our staff. omar f’ed up.

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 23:05:02

so what exactly do you do with your guaranteed contracts when everyone is healthy? You really think Livan wanted to go somewhere where he would be forced into the bullpen? But whatever, I’m sure you were saying these exactly same things in February, weren’t you?

 
Comment by kjmcc0729
2008-05-12 23:08:52

as a matter of fact i was. i am not some dopey fair-weather fan. nor do i pretend to be a major league gm. i, as many realistic mets fans, realized that the starters don’t pitch enough innings, and as a result our bullpen takes a beating. if others took their heads out of their a$$es long enough to take an objective look, they would realize the same.

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-05-12 23:14:03

thank you for alerting me to the placement of my head firmly placed up and inside my a*shole, I shall now go and remove it.

 
Comment by starz31
2008-05-12 23:22:41

Darkstar was taking an objective look. It wasn’t manageable to sign someone when the roster was full. I think we should have made an effort to make it work for the exact reasons you stated. we needed an innings-eater, and we only got one (Johan)

 
Comment by JDuelz (Athens, GA)
2008-05-13 00:40:31

So much rambling I almost forgot what I was gonna say, DS.

Oh yeah, let’s not forget that Livan switched leagues and is seeing new batters around for the first time, or should I say vice versa. This trend has time and time again either made/rejuvenated or broken/retired players’ careers.

 
Comment by MetLifer
2008-05-13 00:56:30

Darkstar,

I agree with you 100%. Some of the fans think they are trying to build a fantasy roster. You can’t realistically stock your team with 6 starters even if some are unreliable to stay healthy. All of the starters that you want (inning eaters) would want multi-year contracts. You end with crappy flexible pitchers like Sosa instead who can pitch long relief and spot start.

 
 
 
Comment by milo
2008-05-13 08:11:33

Responding to original post: Please, “their” is for possession. “There” is to point out something. Like nails on a chalkboard!

 
 
Comment by HITorDIE25
2008-05-12 22:34:42

I dont hate sosa as much as I hate his mother and father for doing each other and creating him. Nice jerry curls numb nuts….

Comment by JDuelz (Athens, GA)
2008-05-13 00:43:21

Thankfully Pedro cut that wack Shiite off, otherwise I would have had to fight you.

 
 
Comment by Captsehorn
2008-05-12 22:36:04

Great writeup and well said on the booing…pure bush league crap from the Shea faithful AND the Nats dugout.

Comment by DAG
2008-05-12 23:23:21

I have no problem with the Nats’ dugout cheering. A major league pitcher should be able to tune it out and pitch. What will happen when he’s pitching before a hostile crowd in October. Either he can pitch or he can’t, but the nats bench clearly was not the issue tonight.

Comment by jamie
2008-05-13 06:42:32

don’t worry, he won’t be pitching before a hostile crowd in october.

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Comment by Peter
2008-05-13 09:16:35

My thoughts exactly . . . until I remembered our 2006 playoff rotation.

 
 
 
 
Comment by mrosey
2008-05-12 22:36:21

It will be really interesting to see what the reaction is to the “little league cheers” from the Nats dugout tonight.

If it was Jose Reyes leading those cheers, the NATIONAL press would be all over him calling it immature, mocking, not for the MLB, and in bad taste, and sportsmanship.

I have a feeling its not going to be a big deal.

Comment by Phantaroth
2008-05-12 22:47:45

I assure you the media will not be more lenient towards Elijah Dukes of all people.

 
Comment by thrilledge 4 prez
2008-05-12 23:10:17

we coulda used that thrilledge double in the 8th

Comment by gomets6091
2008-05-13 07:31:11

yea, that one 2-run double would have been much better than the 7 HRs, 26 RBIs, and 142 OPS+ we’ve gotten from Church and the 22 starts by our above average catcher, who by the way is also outhitting Milledge (.299/.375/.338 to .252/.325/.345)

Can we all give it a rest, Milledge ain’t that great.

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Comment by cyclone
2008-05-13 07:46:08

Thank you….

 
 
 
Comment by endy.marlon.fan
2008-05-13 01:43:20

as long as the mets keep referring to and depending on an undisciplined sandlot player as their CATALYST.
they are never gonna make it to the big show..

and fans, why are you booing milledge? are you that far removed from reality?

Comment by cyclone
2008-05-13 07:07:39

Maybe they don’t like his perceived attitude, or the fact that he ripped the organization on his way out the door…

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Comment by krumbledkookie
2008-05-12 22:36:54

Sosa needs to go, and hopefully, the positive that comes from this game will be Omar and Co. realizing that he is worthless to the team.

That said, it’s not his fault we lost this game. Figgy was bad for perhaps the first time. It happens.