The Game:
Weather-permitting, the Mets (19-16) will begin their four-game series versus the Nationals (15-23) tonight at Shea Stadium, starting at 7:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- RF Ryan Church
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- LF Moises Alou
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- 2B Damion Easley
- C Brian Schneider
- P Nelson Figueroa
The Pitchers:
RHP Nelson Figueroa (2-2, 4.81 ERA) toes the rubber for the Mets. In his last start on May 6, Figueroa earned a loss allowing five runs on eight hits while walking four and striking out three over 5.0 IP. Opponents are hitting .164 (9-for-55) in Figueroa’s first time through the lineup. In his last and only career start versus the Nationals on April 17, Figueroa allowed two runs on two hits and two walks and striking out six over 7.0 IP earning a no-decision.
LHP Odalis Perez (0-3, 3.43 ERA) takes the hill for the Nationals. Perez received a no-decision in his last start on May 7 versus the Astros allowing three tuns on five hits while walking two and striking out three over 5.0 IP. Perez has allowed three earned runs or less in seven of his eight starts this season. Perez is 4-6 with a 3.93 ERA in 17 career games, 10 starts, versus the Mets.
Notes:
Moises Alou is batting .368 (7-for-19) and his reached base in all six games since returning from the disabled list. He is batting .375 (6-for-16) with 1 2B and 1 RBI in his career versus Perez.
Carlos Beltran is batting .455 (5-for-11) with 2 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR and 8 RBI during the Mets current homestand.
The Mets are 12-7 (4-1 against the Nationals) versus the National League East this season.
Lastings Milledge is batting .154 with 2 2B in his last four games.
Wil Nieves is 11-for-31 (.419) in his last 12 games. He is batting .292 (7-for-24) versus right-handed pitching this season.
The Nationals are 4-14 when their opponent scores first, but 11-8 when hey score first.
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen locally on SNY and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.
…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
{ 381 comments }
Lets score first then!
Will Wags let Figgy use his luxury box? Maybe having his family at the game is why Figgy does better at home.
“Lastings Milledge is batting .154 with 2 2B in his last four games.”
Four games? Really? Why are we using such a small sample size?
he’s batting .252 with a HR and 11 RBI for the year. he has 26 Ks in 135 ABs.
how’s that sample for you?
I was a pro trade (and what a great trade it was) but I still which the best for Milledge. I’m not certain he can make it as an outfielder but he could be a tremendous 1st baseman since he is quick and athletic.
His batting should get better with time (as his arrogance declines).
He’s .000/1.000/1.000 in his last 1 plate appearances. Let’s hope he can’t keep up that pace, or the Mets will be in trouble!
Will cold weather = cold bats? You couldn’t pay me $16 million to play tonight. Move this team to PR or the Dominican until May.
“They’re all corrupt out here, at least this one don’t make any bones about it.”
Brilliant. Toasty, you were involved in the Bay of Pigs?
“Involved”? That was my idea.
Poor follow through.
Dude, it’s 5/12/08.
Good luck out there Moises. Try not to hurt yourself!
I assume Pagan is available, but Castillo is activve but not available? Hope they make it until Wednesday so they can make a move!
although if Castillo goes on the DL for Bostick, they will still be shorthanded…
it’s a very interesting week as they need a starter wednesday, they have Wise JIC and they will need a DH this weekend.
if castillo needs a few days, they will need to DL him because they need a DH this weekend. not easy to manage the roster given these double headers and the games in an AL park. just a very weird short term period.
Bostick just needs to wear a Sosa jersey and disguise and pitch while Sosa hides in the clubhouse. Wise should wear a Heilman jersey and disguise. I’m sure that will work.
is that you, Bobby V.?
shhhh….you’ll blow my cover again
LOL, get a better fake stache this time.
The Mets are on the precipice starting tonight….they can take 3 of 4 from the Nats and go to Yankee stadium on a roll, or we can have more of the “same old, same old”.
What say you? Hot streak or .500′ish?
As Little Carmine would say, the Mets are on the precipice of an enormous crossroads.
5-2 this week. The charge to 1st place begins.
I don’t care about the standing any more. 1st place matters only on Sept 29th.
when are we gonna get to see lo duca in a nats uniform?
aw…”Figgy and Wags”
they should have their own t.v show
with wacky hi-jinks and stuff, figgys family could go visit wags and his allpacas in virginia, and get real excited about things.
and wags can go to coney and eat some kool man, get nathans fries, and get pissed off.
…….
probably about the same time we see El Duque in a Mets uniform again.
I really prefer to have Easley in the 2 hole….maybe it’s because i see Delgado somewhere other than the 7 slot
Hell Yeah! AROD is gonna miss the Subway Series this weekend. I don’t care about “oh, if we don’t beat them at full strength then the Yanks will just make excuses”
Who Cares? I would rather beat the Yanks short handed than loose to them full strengh (Not that I’m saying we would loose…I mean their pitching is a legitimate joke) GO METS!
Lose = to not win a game or contest; or, to misplace an object.
Loose = not tight.
I weep for the future.
is it worth booing bad spelling?
The lose/loose thing is a pet peeve of mine on Metsblog because it is so disturbingly rampant.
Yes, then gometzies_18 will perform better next time out.
Gip, could you also explain the chose/choose thing. I can never chose the right one.
Your defense of ignorance is inexplicable.
just trying to lighten it up a little. No offense intended.
Don’t worry, go_metzies18 just needs to get into a little bit of a rhythm. He is just pressing, he has spelled correctly before, he’ll find his rhythm.
yeah, I trust go_metzies18
Nobody knows my posters better than I do.
My gut said that gometzies_18 was going to come through in that spot. He’s got to execute his spelling better that that. I mean, that’s a basic, little-league type concept. We’re gonna do some their/they’re/there drills with him in a side session to get him back in the groove. He’ll come around. I trust my guys. And my gut.
I like this lineup. I think we’ll be ok. Lets go Mets!
Red Sox DFA’d Julian Tavarez. Anyone interested?
is he related to Frank Tavarez?
i have tix for tonight but i am not dragging myself to sit in the frozen tundra of the upper deck
Me neither…I wimped out. Plus it would have been cold for my 2 year old.
Did anyone notice the Met lineup being announced with the names in pink on the shea scoreboard?
I take it that someone has decided the Mets hit better with some form of pink on or around the players.
If they win tonight I will wear a pink and white David Wright jersey to shea tomorrow night.
I don’t envy the outfielders in this game. Hopefully Figgy can keep the Nats on the ground.
Agreed. Someone will get a HR off a routine flyball because of the 40mph winds.
is it really that cold? has no one been to Giants stadium in december….THATS COLD!
i see the mets groundkeepers took a page out of the Nats’ groundkeepers playbook by putting our logo on the back of the mound
anyone watching on mlb.tv? does it just look awful to me?
the colors seem extra bright tonight.
Looks normal on Extra Innings. Pony up and get the Mets on real TV! ;-)
have to say I enjoyed the free preview of that this year, but it doesn’t fit the budget, and I like to watch the games at work and have access to the archive so I can go back and watch games I missed…i will say the dvr really speeds up a baseball game!!
Definitly love the DVR combined with the Extra Innings package. Isn’t the cost only about $50 more than MLB.tv? I suppose you lose the at-work option, though if you do just Extra Innings and not MLB.tv.
as much as i would love to, i am a poor college student. it is about 100.00 more, at least where i am. it would actually be even more as i would have to upgrade my cable plan. it is hard for me to justify this expense as is, but i will, as i have the past few seasons, contemplate it some time next march.
Oh, I feel you, I was a poor collgege student, briefly rich and young working in the city, then a poor grad student….now not worried about cash. At least the MLB.tv thing is relatively reasonable.
that was dale not chip
haha, I was yelling at the tv he was wrong too. Easy way to remember it: nose reD = Dale, black nose = Chip. It’s ok, they can be up on their baseball facts and I can be up on the Disney facts.
Nights like this (and the sad, poor attendance at Johan’s start this weekend) are why nobody should kvetch about the reduced seating capacity at Citi Field.
Poor attendance at Johan’s start? I was there, it was packed.
There were swaths of empty seats in the mezz, UD and, sadly even the orange/field seats. There were multiple comments about it here on the blog.
nope man there were 53,000+ at johans start
The evil empire is in the park.
I’d rather the Reyes ESPN commercial than anything featuring Jeter
Speaking of evil empire, I noticed Guisseppe France now has his commercials on the YES network. Look out ESPN..you are next!!
France = Franco but you probably guessed that.
Ew, you were watching YES? Ick.
I was drunk and confused
Beltran !!!!!
marlins up 2-0.
nats average 3 runs a game… woof!
A 2 out run? Is this the Mets?
I don’t know, but it looks like the same old Delgado.
same OLD delgado
hearsay! I won’t consider Delgado “back” until he doesn’t ever strike out again!
Delgado did get 2 low strike calls that really killed his AB. Keep in mind the man is hitting .353 in the last 9 games!!!!
DELGADO IS GARBAGE…FIRST THE K, THEN THE ERROR….THATS A GIFT OF A HOP…
It wasn’t an error, the ump blew the call.
Maybe it was a blown call, but was there reason to make that play close? Some of you people really can never accept criticism.
Figgy got lucky there…that’s a 3 run homer without the wind.
but guess what pal…the winds there so no worries
it’s all good, brother
umps are killing us this inning.
Delgrandma
One strikeout and going .353 2HR 4DBLS 6RBI in the last nine games is worthless.
Quality reasoning there. Give the guy a break, he fought back from .192 for crying out loud.
theres no justification for .192. especially after last year
No justification? This is sports!!!! Have you been watching? Ok so then there is no justification for Cano and Giambi struggling after last year but they
are. There is no justification for Barry Zito being terrible but he is.
This is sports. This not mathematics. David wright could lose it all and no one would know how to justify it.
does anyone understand how well easily just hit that ball?
Castillo!
nice work Damian. Castillo haters should be here in about 30 seconds.
fast ball up, d ease is crushing!
Easley should be tested. As should Rick Ankiel.
the mets give up a lot of hits to pitchers
At least they dont walk them, Mets pitchers have been getting a nice amount of walks lately.
easley is just an excellent high fastball hitter, he crushed one to left last year thats wouldve hit citi field
How did the Nats score without a hit in the first?
I was in a meeting and missed it.
Reach on Delgado error (replay showed the guy was out, Delgado managed to make two bad plays, misplayed the ball, then made a bad throw.) Walk. Runners move over on a groundout, then a sac fly.
TY
…make that the 2nd
homeplate ump is missing all sorts of strikes.
first run scores bc of an error. second run scores bc the opposing pitchers gets a leadoff single. meet the mets, greet the mets!
what happened to nelson. it seems as if he lost his touch that he had in the beginnnig of the year. im starting to get worried about him
honestly, what did you expect? hes a career journeyman. 9-19 with a career 4.67 era
i respect the guy tho. hes gritty
He’s… not all that good?
He’s been great for us so far, and I’m not suggesting we yank him out of the rotation right away. But he’ll most likely come down to earth a little.
I like all the suggestions to make him our long man in the pen, especially when (if?) pedro returns, or if bostick or claudio vargas end up pitching significantly in the majors. Or if we get Freddy Garcia.
I also like the idea of making him the long reliever
Figgy needs to lay off his slider the Nationals are on it
It’s not your night when the Nats are on anything
How did Milledge miss that hanging slider?
He was fooled. He swung like he was looking for a fastball thinking Figgy wouldn’t throw a slider on a 3-2 count. But all Figgy threw was sliders save one fastball on the corner which he should use more.
That’s it. Thank you.
I fancy myself as the Keith Hernandez of the blog. LOL
wow, the mics are she are either insanely good, or theres so few people there, but you can here the nats bench cheering for their hitters like its a softball game
still sweet to see blastings strike out
Gotta love those shotgun mics!
why do mets fans harbor any negative feelings about milledge? he busted his butt with the mets and played really well last season. he got traded! he didnt willingly leave the team
IR, I was wondering the same thing. I hope he does well…against the Phillies, Braves and Marlins.
milledge was a disgrace to the organization. we gave him a chance but he just made stupid decisions and dumb comments.
C’mon, he was at Shea for less than a season. Disgrace is a bit much, considering he didn’t do steroids or get arrested for DWI.
like….??
last time i checked, darryl strawberry did a couple of bad things, yet most mets fans love him and sny even hired him. why the double standard?
Um, because LMillz is no Darryl. Also LMillz trashed the Mets in the offseason.
it seems that a lot of pitchers on the mets rely on a certain type of pitch and teams are starting to pound the pitching. perez- fastball, heilman- changeup, sosa and figgy- slider
7 of the 12 pitchers throw sliders. The bullpen looks so similar to the starters.
eh to me its more of the assorted comments he had for the org. in the offseason/spring training
i predict with 2 men on, delgado steps to the plate with that scared look in his eyes, swings at the first pitch, then hits into the shift, right to the second baseman….
oh wait, he just did that last inning, my bad.
I love Keith and Gary cracking on Little League. At least I’m not the only one who hates the rah-rah…
Seen that more when I was coaching high school against Brooklyn teams.
Figgy sticking back to the Nats dugout. Hopefully he’ll pitch with a purpose now and shut them out the rest of the way. Here’s to wishful thinking.
here is why delgado will not be a useful contributor, and this will be the explanation eventually adopted by mets fans. delgado has a huge swing- with his age, he has lost a lot of bat speed and therefore struggles to make contact. earlier in his career, he could take that huge swing and still make contact. he has yet to shorten his swing, and i dont expect his bat speed to quicken unless he goes to a party at jose cansecos house
I hear Roger Clemens is in charge of entertainment at that party
Looks like Perez has him fooled big time. He needs to take that outside pitch.
I wish Alou would stop playing so hard and hustling. He is going to get hurt out there. He looks like a 25 year old but you know he could break any minute.
All the runs are off two out hits. A great sign going forward.
yeah. lots of that going on lately
btw, Tony Armas Jr. is pitching tonight for New Orleans, so scratch him off the list of options to start on Wednesday.
Looks like Bostick is the choice for Wed.
Stop it Figgy!!!
Booooooooo. . . .
Hey Willie can we put the Wheel on?
tonight for St. Lucie, Dylan Owen is working on 5 shutout innings, 7 K’s and for Savannah Steven Cleto has done exactly the same.
both teams are in 0-0 games…
jesus christ
MOTHER F man… the nationals average 3 runs a game. this is too much for me
well its was a nice first couple starts from Figueroa, but its become apparent that he is not a big league starter. It was a nice story while it lasted… time for someone new.
Figgy, with the Oliver Perez imitation
if he was imitating ollie, the score would be 6-3 nats. i look to look at the runs a pitcher gives up vs the earned runs he gives up. the disparity indicates how well the pitcher responds to crisis. last year, ollie gave up 70 earned runs and 90 runs.
Figgy is determined to give the Nationals every opportunity to beat him.
If we didnt know better it would look like Figgy was throwing the game.
nelson donaghy?
He’s really going after that ND with everything he’s got!
haha good to see that lo duca is up to his old tricks lol
fiesty old guy him, reminds me of jake taylor from major league
post-roid rage
teixeira left game 1 of the braves double header with back spasms.
Vlad Guerrerro had bad spasms too the year he was a free agent. I’m not complaining…just saying that’s no big deal.
I really dig the behind the plate camera shot.
The director (guy calling the shots) Bill Webb is fantastic! He calls excellent shots, and his cameramen are really on top of their area of responsibility. I have rarely if ever seen him call a bad shot.
the umps love us
Hey Blue, you’re missing a great game, here.
You know, I generally don’t mind Willie’s not arguing close calls.
But he has to go out and throw an absolute tantrum next time Jose gets screwed on a call.
That’s what, the 3rd time he’s been called out wrong on steals? He’s now 12 for 16. Three of those four caught stealings have been mistakes.
A few bad calls are what sent Jose tailspinning last year. Say what you want about how he has to mature and all, Willie should be fighting for him
he looked out to me…
He was out.
Oh, well then, okay.
I’m listening on radio, and Hagin and Rose were more or less jumping up and down calling him safe.
Nothing to see here. Carry on.
Not your fault. Hagin missed the call. I got both radio and TV on.
I have to tell you that Hagin calls everything the same. Homeruns sound like routine fly balls until the go over the wall. He needs some Red Bull or something
this team scores 3 friggin runs a game. you have to be kidding me. and i guarantee you the marlins win again
Did Walter Alston ever throw a complete tantrum? Did you ever see Joe Torre throw a complete tantrum?
Throwing a tantrum like some kind of maniac is stupid if you’re not that kind of person. Then it comes off as phony and you really lose your players.
If Jose wasn’t upset, then I have no problems.
that description of the schoe pitching without a tendon (!) was disgusting and makes me feel at least a tiny bit bad for hating him so much last year.
Kevin Burkhart, investigative journalist, just cracked the Showenweis caper.
Cripes Figgy, can we stop walking the 7-hitter EVERY time.
Jesus Freaking Flores
Odalis freaking Perez…
Who pulls Figgy out here?
odalis perez is 2-2. nelson figueroa, you just got yourself demoted to the minors. i dont want to see this pitcher again
Well, we could see coming all night.
SIX RUNS TO THE GOD DAMN NATIONALS. THIS TEAM SCORES 3 RUNS A GAME. god im having memories of the nationals offense from last september
Walks will kill ya. Figgy’s been playing with fire all game. 6-3, ugh.
Figgy..figgy …figgy…we have a great spot for you in AAA. How about we try Armas jr.?
I think the love affair with Nelson Figueroa is coming to an end ….
this may be the end of the Figgy era.
i cant wait to hear this guy get booed off the field. thats your last memory with the mets.
That’s disgusting. You can’t wait to hear the guy whose life dream has been pitching for the Mets, has really overperformed to date, is clearly trying, and until this inning had a tie game, booed off the field?
He’s not a great pitcher. That should be obvious given that he is 33 without a regular job. He’s done as well as could be expected and he is the last Met I would boo for a bad outing.
i think its time to end the figueroa experiment
So this is going to be very interesting.. Lets see what team comes out for the rest of this game. The Mail it in Mets or the gritty group we all know they could be. Now I don’t care if they win or not, but they better go out there and try.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
This got a laugh out of me, thanks Isiah…
I’ll take the Mail it In Mets for 200, Alex…
Hope I’m wrong, but I seen it too many times this year.
May I ask how you will know whether they’re trying or not?
that a good question mud… I guess i could be a matter of perspective,, but we do have a constant. They deff mailed the second game of the double header against pitts. So far their looking good. Just don’t want to see lazy baseball. Errors and giving away at bats..
His stuff just isnt that good…and hasnt been for 4 starts. Honestly he has got lucky…really lucky.
Until this inning, Figgy kept us in the game. He “limited the damage.” He’s just the 5th starter and frankly neither Perez nor Pelfrey, on average, have been better than Figgy on average.
This isn’t the guy to boo for all of those who claim they are booing “no effort” guys. This guy is all effort.
He’s just not a great pitcher.
So you think guys like Delgado, Scho, Heilman, etc don’t put out effort?
Please. They put out a lot of effort and still get booed. They have struggles as many MLB players do or they are just seeing their skills fade. It doesn’t mean they aren’t putting effort out there.
No, I totally agree with you. I was just alluding to all those who CLAIM they are booing “no effort” when they are really booing “bad performance.”
Sorry my bad then. I agree.
Or booing “boredom.”
Aaron Heilman for the 5th spot?????
No.
stop. Cant get lefties out…and cant even pitch in relief yet…
He’s tired of relieving. He wants to start. He’s got better stuff than any other potential 5th starter and, yes, he can get lefties out with his most excellent change-up.
That no names like Scott Speizo and Kelly johnson have killed us on….thanks for proving my point
PS he doesnt have a 3rd pitch. SLider sucks. You cant start with two pitches
Pelfrey starts with only 1 pitch!
does this team know what a winning streak is?
does nelson figgy know hes facing the nats? unbelieveable….
win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win two, lose two, win one, lose two, win three, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win two, lose two, win one, lose two, win three, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win two, lose two, win one, lose two, win three, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win two, lose two, win one, lose two, win three, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one, win two, lose two, win one, lose two, win three, lose one, win one, lose one, win one, lose one,
C’mon, anybody with me?
Heil-man, Heil-man, Heil-man!
Wont happen.
Nobody’s with you except Aaron’s momma.
I was at Figgy’s first start against the Brewers and was pleasantly surprised he wasn’t another Chan Ho Park or Brian Lawrence right out of the gate. But ever since then he’s been putting on a ton of runners, not getting through innings efficiently an it seems to have gotten progressively worse every start. This afternoon I called him a Houdini-like pitcher…I think his magic trick is up.
Is this the part of the evening where a sub-par pitcher decides he is Cy Young?
i have a feeling they’ll come back in this game. and i haven’t had this feeling since early last year
Odalis Perez isn’t sub-par. Maybe par, but not subpar.
Come on Beltran….let’s get it started..
By the way, Manny Acta not shutting up his bullpen when they (esp. Dukes, I believe) acting like 10 year old boys is interesting to me.
he likes their youthful enthusiam, that’s why he likes Milledge..
Yeah, Moist Hands Alou, nice hit..let’s see what Delgado does now…
seriously why isnt delgado taking a strike..perez hasnt thrown him one all night
alou rolls outta bed and hits
Ugh, groan…Now the pen has to keep it close…
In game poll:
WIth 1 being the least and 10 the most, how much confidence do you have in Sosa coming in in this spot?
4
on a scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you that the mets will lose this game: 8.5
win one, lose one… win 2, lose 3. win 2, lose 1, win 3, lose 4… the most mediocre team money can buy!
uggla homered again. he is ridiculous.
I think Jorge Sosa and Guillermo Mota are the same person.
they are not. one sucks and the other sucks more. You decided who is who.
I wish he were the same person as this year’s Guillermo Mota.
Here comes Trashings…
THIS TEAM REALLY REALLY REALLY SUX!!!
wow dude, none of us are happy, but we also put our “worst” or 2nd worst pitcher out there, and he just didn’t have it…
go complain somewhere else about the whole team sucking, or i’m sorry, what is the plural of sux?
how old are you 12?
who promptly gets the hit he’s been waiting all season for.
could there possibly be a more predictably bad pitcher in baseball than Sosa?
blown out b thte nationals, who just got swept by the marlins!!!
Is this september again???
Oh wait, i forgot, odalis perez is pitching…
Send down figueroa sosa and bring up anyone else who can throw a strike.
Sosa’s pretty much pitching himself out the door.
Why do the Nats play like the 27 Yankees every time they come up against us….
or….the mets are 4-1 against the nats this year, but good try!
Oh please, I’m not limiting it to this year…they handled us at the end of last year…
Odalis must be Babe Ruth, that’s his third hit…
easy decision for Mets: option figueroa bring up Bostich for Wednesday. dfa sosa bring up wise tomorrow…so easy a caveman can do it
Time to activate Matt Wise and DFA Sosa…what, can you not do that mid-game??
does anyone have a delorian??? we can go back in time and become philly fans.
PLEASE go do that, PLEASE noone wants you here
on the bright side
i still have gta4
already switched to it. more fun.
Great Game! I don’t even need to do any of the missions, because driving around never gets old.
I GUARANTEE sosa does not get DFAd…
i cant stand his ugly face.. every time he gives up 4 runs, he looks like a little girl on the mound with a puss on his face.. id like to run onto the field and physicall harm him!!!! :)
This team never does the things it should, Sosa and Figgy will keep on getting run out there and the Bostick game is a sure loss. We will be damn lucky to split this series, pathetic.
This is unacceptable and one of the reasons Randope must go. We’ll hear the same tired crap after the game and if anyone thinks Sosa is leaving this team you are seriously dreaming. Another typical mail it in performance under Randope, I can’t this anymore.
You keep saying this but you keep coming back
Hoping for a turnaround but not going to happen with guys like we have and especially Randope. Hey don’t worry Willie, turn the page after getting embarrassed at home by the Nats. Our last 3 home losses have been blowouts and that CAN NOT be tolerated.
I don’t get how Sosa’s pitching relates to Willie Randolph.
I don’t think Sosa came into the game on his own, Randope brought him in and is keeping him on this team, he is this years Mota.
gary! shh….
unreal how pitchers hit the crap out of mets pitchers….
Wow Wise is back in Florida in witness protection….thats crazy…how long is this going to last.
leave sosa in the rest of thegame then release his a$$
no such luck.
time for the 5 RP show.
i was thinking the same. let the #&$%’r throw 100 pitches; if they reach 20, it still counts the same as 1-0 pitchers’ duel.
plus, the added benefit that whatever team picks up sosa gets a dead arm sosa! mwahaha!
i want willies and omars head if they send down joe smith when wise comes back instead of just releasing this bum
groan……………….
Simply put, I’m embarressed. (sp?)
Well, there’s nothing like getting blown out by the NL’s second-worst team to bollocks up your momentum.
Hey don’t worry, its just one game, just ask Randope.
yeah. and its still April. Oh wait. When do the games start counting?
don’t worry, this will make the champagne will taste that much sweeter in the offseason….
sorry i could not resist…
This is just embarrassing. Everyone in the organization should be embarrassed by this garbage.
great, and we get chris carlin too….
the broad is kind of cute though…
is that you, Keith Hernandez?
we absolutely need the next 3.
did any of the monsters in the stands have the audacity to the boo our professionals as they trotted off the field after the sixth inning carnage came to an end ? as long as the guys keep trying you have love the effort.
They lost all heart after that 6th. Those at bats in the bottom looked terrible. Remember that game against the REDS last week that we LOST 12-1? We all said it was one of those games and all teams have them, Well, here is another one of “those games”. The poll that we taken here said that the METS should go 5-2 on this home stand to be a success. Well that means we win the next 3. Im just getting sick and tired of making excuses for this team and watching a blow out game once a week. We should roll over these bums, not the other way around. Oh, well, we will get the Tuesday. (Now I sound like Willie) NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
time and time again this happens with this team..
i have not been a FIRE WILLIE guy all year, but come on..
How many times do we have to get BLOWN OUT by HORRIBLE OFFENSES>??????
FIRE PEDERSON
Then FIRE RANDOLPH…
and all you happy go lucky met fans out there, especially the creator of this site, i dont care who manages the team..
my left nut would be better than randolph right about now..
How do you NOT see sosa getting blown out here???
How do you let figueroa stay in when he has NOTHING left…
THis team is PAINFUL to watch.. i am physically in pain, and am done…
1-3 vs the nats, swept by the yankees, and i can give up on th emets in may..
thats my pessimistic prediction…
i go to a university which has a lot of waterfalls and a reputation for student suicides. if you guys dont hear from me, ill be in a better place!
weren’t you “done” after the dodger loss, or was it the d’back loss?
and the saddest part is that always come back….
Cornell?
Cornell? Lot of Gorges in Ithaca
My guess is Keuka College
i would like to repeat: the nationals average 3 runs a game.
odalis perez has 3 rbis today! 3-3?????
Anyone think Pedro can return with a Superman cape, and force this team to stop playing like sh!theads????
didn’t he try that last September, didn’t work out too well if I recall…
How can this organization spend so much money on players and all we have done this year is hope (let’s hope we take the next 3, let’s hope Sosa has a good outing, let’s hope blah blah blah). Hope is for pretenders.
tru….but Pedro and Johan?!?!!?
Come on I need something here.
Well, with Figueroa starting, you’re always taking the chance of his fluke ending, which is what happened. With Figs’ disaster being followed up by Sosa, you know what to expect..
I’m disappointed, but not surprised. Figs can’t perform well consistently, and Sosa isn’t good enough for this team.
Wow. A voice of reason. Thanks.
wow last year there were so many people on this site preaching calmness and that the team is in first, and we’ll get them tomorrow, etc. etc., and look how last year turned out.
1. why not just leave sosa in there?
2. why bring in sanchez? wasn’t he hurt and its 30 degrees
3. does this team know what a winning streak is?
4. can somebody check when the last time the Mets came back from a defecit of 3 or more after the 5th inning?
i will simply echo everyone here. this is embarrassing.
i will save eveyone the rest of my comments, but come on, why can met pitchers never find the zone? this has to be a peterson problem. ALL, think about it, ALL the pitchers are having problems finding the zone. even johan. they come in contact with 3 balls more than an adult film star.
it is one thing to throw it and be beaten, but the whole staff is nibling to death and walking the park. even worse, when they actually manage to get ahead, they just nibble, nibble and lose it. enough.
It just sucks because from the start, it looked like this team would take this one…1 2 3 first for Figgy…mets score in the 1st three innings…you just felt like this should have been a Victory.
12-6
1-7
8-3
3-10
So ridiculous. And now Gary is making excuses – cold weather, small crowd, bad team. That’s BS. Suck it up. Have so pride.
Was watching Fran Healy’s show yesterday and his guest was Chase Utley. He is at the ballpark by noon every day watching video of all of the team’s opposing pitchers. Every day. And when he has a bad (or good) at bat, he runs into the videoroom to see what went wrong (or right). I’d like to believe the Mets do the same thing. Would like to believe that.
one thing that becomes more and more apparent is that this team underestimates its competition. They lack a killer instinct and an edge. We’ve seen too many of these types of games already, where the mets either blow them out or we get blown out. I think that speaks volumes about this teams mentality.
just so you know, the marlins, who were down 8-4 to the reds, are mounting a comeback… its 8-7 after 3 runs in the 8th
bases loaded 2 outs for the marlins. 8-7
The Marlins playing well doesn’t worry me that much. There is no way they can keep it up all year long (jinx). What bothers me is that those idiots in Miami will start to think they have a team and pretend that they were there the entire season and deserve a winner.
LOL… Just like last year when there was no way those Phillies – all offense, no pitching – could actually win the division. I’ve learned not to underestimate any team. Phils proved that all offense, and just a bit of pitching can win a division (still work to be done to win a championship, but close enough).
I hear ya man. That’s why I qualified my comment with a “jinx”.
WHY IS SANCHEZ IN THE GAME!!!
IS HE NOT THE SET-UP MAN? WHAT SET UP MAN COMES IN TO THIS GAME AT THIS SPOT?!!??!
USE HEILMAN FOR 2 INNINGS
WHY WASTE SANCHEZ WHO HAS NOT FULLY REGAINED HIS STRENGTH AND SHOULD NOT BE USED WHEN UNNECESSARY.
THIS IS A REALLY REALLY STUPID SPOT TO PUT SANCHEZ IN.
no reliever knows their role on their. i dont think willie knows their roles either.
rob macowiak is a lefty and due up 2nd in the 8th. do you think willie will bring in wagner to take advantage of the lefty-lefty matchup. at this point, i wouldnt be surprised. this man needs to be fired.
do we get another hit the rest of the way or will it be 3 more innings of 1-2-3 ?
at this point, i know we are going to lose, but i just want to see some runs. show some grit
probably not, but at this point, i don’t even care. what difference would it make.
i just do not get this team.
didn’t the metsblog poll results show that the majority of metsblog readers felt a 5-2 stand was acceptable?
well, here are the two losses. 3 in a row or bust.
nice drive by wright.
dr jones, do you really think they lost this game tonight b/c they have no killer instinct or they underestimated the Nats. Or did their starting pitcher and middle man go out and stick up the joint.
Also, don’t love Sanchez being bought in tonight either, but its not the end of the world. Sanchez has been lightly used since returning so you mind as well give him an inning tonight.
i would have left sosa in there. if he continued to give up tons of runs, then he pretty much seals his fate. maybe at some point he just gets angry, the light bulb goes on and he fights his way out of this mile deep rut. why use other guys tonight and not have them available tomorrow ? if sanchez hurts himself in a blowout during the cold, its really gonna deflate the teams self confidence it they have any left.
Stiff goes deep at 10 3 with no one on. what a bum
kidding…right?
way to go wright,,
Hell yeah Dave!!!!!
David Wright is someone who I admire very much, he is one of my heros. He is dedicated, passionate and always trying to improve himself, and this is something that I respect and admire very much. Even though his bat has been cool lately, we all know that he is a very talented player, he displayed it last year. He is still young, and I am confident that he will be one of the best players baseball has ever seen. Seeing Dave play, and his attitudes toward the game inspires me to excel at what I do. Dave, for my generation, you are a breath of fresh air!!
If I could meet any celebrity (and I have met quite a few in my travels in the audio industry) it would defiantly be Dave. It would be an honor to shake his hand!
Lets go Dave! LETS GO METS!
“Was watching Fran Healy’s show yesterday and his guest was Chase Utley. He is at the ballpark by noon every day watching video of all of the team’s opposing pitchers. Every day. And when he has a bad (or good) at bat, he runs into the videoroom to see what went wrong (or right). I’d like to believe the Mets do the same thing. Would like to believe that.”
Brilliant point. For example, Mets have been stymied by Arroyo for three tears now. You figure in that timespan, Willie or the coaches would bring out some tapes for the team to study. Gene Michael is scouting the Mets tonight. Anyone from the Mets scouting the Yanks this week?
This game is done. Four game series, including a day game. Would’ve let Figueroa and Sosa mop the entire uninspired slop up.
Of course someone from the Mets is scouting the Yankees. It’s called advance scouting. That’s the way baseball works.
i just don’t understand how sosa keeps getting a pass of sorts. he came in, he did nothing. why not leave him in there, suck up some innings, and leave them some more options the rest of the series?
i know the argument, not leaving a guy in there, getting shelled. WHATEVER. he has been sucking, leave him in. at the very least, he helps the team that way. the team actually benefits in some way.
no attack on wright here, but how many solo shots does this team have? it would nice to have a few more with men on. i am more of a run, attack fan, but a good ole earl weaver three run shot would be nice every now and then.
your hero???hes a baseball player,,
thats why these athletes make so much money, because of idiots like us who call them heros..
how many times has milledge caught a 3rd out popfly and didn’t know how many outs there were? he did it all the time last year and just did it again. i’m so glad he is gone.
last rant.
no matter what else happened in this game, you are just not going to win many games giving up 9 hits, 7 walks, 2 hit batters and two errors in seven innings.
too many walks.
not enough getting ahead.
too many pitches.
that should be the team slogan so far this season.
much better than “Your Season Has Come”
figures too, the marlins finally lost and we can’t gain a game on them. you’d think it should be a great opportunity for the mets to gain a game, but we get shelled by the nats, so frustrating.
yup, season’s over, pack it in folks, not gaining a game on the Marlins in May is a pretty freakin’ big deal, so i’m not sure this team can overcome that.
it is a big deal and it’s people like you who don’t think it is a big deal who were saying, “oh we’re still in first place,” all of last year. look where that got the mets. every opportunity is a big deal and should be siezed when possible. what kind of a fan are you?
did you expect this team to never lose to the Nats? games like this happen, WAKE UP, no one said this was going to be a GREAT team, we’re going to have to fight the whole season for the division. You were mislead if you thought we’d walk through the division in 1st place like in 2006. 2006 will not happen again. WAKE UP. It’s comments like yours that make me think fans out there really expected this team to just cruise, to be a great team, to be in 1st all year. Did you actually think that? C’mon, wake up. This isn’t a great team, never was. Realize that baseball is a fight, divisions are RARELY won in May, June, July, RARELY. In ‘06 it was, when a lot of you probably became fans, but that’s not how it works.
don’t question “when” I became a fan. I can assure you that I was cheering on the mets when you were in diapers! And no, I never thought for one second that the mets would run through the division and of course i don’t expect them to win every game against the nats. i simply stated that it’s a shame that we couldn’t pick up a game on the marlins tonight and you jumped all over me, like another uninformed, blind, fool of a fan. losing to the nats is not what has bugged most people on here, it’s the way it happened, and the way it’s been happening all year. all we’re asking for is a little consistency. i know we cant be consistent for the entire season, thats unrealistic, but how about for a 2 week span maybe? we havn’t seen that yet either, and it’s just a shame. it’s my opinion, and i have the right to post that. i didn’t even say anything negative, but you have to put your two cents in when anyone on here says anything you don’t agree with. take it easy pal and just relax.
And happen, and happen, and happen. The last 3 losses have been blowout losses to 3 horrible teams. You can blow it off all you want, but if this is acceptable to you I don’t know what to tell you. You obviously don’t have anymore fight than Randope or his merry band of gutless millionaires
well said
god, you people take this sh*t way too seriously, I made a sarcastic comment to combat some of the absolutely ridiculous fatalistic attitudes around here. Relax, its baseball, this is NOT life. Fact is, people used to come to this blog to talk about baseball, not complain, not whine, not bash, not say the same things over and over and over again. Maybe i’m just fed up with that. I’m as big a fan as anyone here, I don’t need anyone else’s affirmation for that, but yeah, maybe i don’t take it all as seriously as some of you. I’m still willing to be calm when the Mets lose, sue me.
If we didn’t see the same crap over and over again we wouldn’t have to talk about it over and over again. Its been a year now. I really don’t know how you can be calm when watching a game like this but good for you if you can.
i’m not calm when watching it, the Mets losing is frustrating, no matter what, but I don’t let that seep into everything else, including my blog comments, its called controlling your emotions, being rational, realizing (and I know fans like you hate this) its a long season. But whatever, continue on as you were, I’m done.
Blow off a loss to the Nats, a blowout loss at that if you want to.
well said
ok, i lied.
so, uh, using the whole pen tonight or no? i guess willie is hoping for maine to go 8 strong tomorrow. given they peppered perez tonight, lannan should be a breeze tomorrow.
At least we didnt LOSE another game on them….but honestly, i really dont care what the Marlins are doing, as long as we arent way behind the phils or braves, its no big deal.
What i dont like is that they remain 1 to 3 games over .500….
They need to go on a streak and get Waaay over the .500 mark.
Not with this team or manager.
joe smith strikes out the side, sosa is the worst pitcher alive. you can almost guarantee that if one of them goes, it will be smith. cuz that makes the most sense right??? duh!
Are we still in first? Oh wait that was last year, we won’t be saying that this year.
Joe stays, Sosa goes
Joe stays, Sosa goes
Joe stays, Sosa goes
Joe stays, Sosa goes
Joe stays, Sosa goes
…..Everybody now…..
Gotta get that chant going at Shea tomorrow!
theyd rather lose all their fans than 1.5 million dollars
Figgy gets the loss on this one, but the game wasn’t over until Sosa gave up the four in the sixth.
Joe Smith strikes out the side in the eighth, and he’s the one who’s going down?
Release Sosa, activate Wise, fire Randolph, hire Backman. Stop the madness.
Fire willie!
Sosa is going to stay and we all know the reason why, its hardly a mystery anymore.
Here they come. Matt Wise is going to take the Mets to the promised land. A lot of people on this board don’t know much about baseball, which is surprising to say the least.
i like easley, but please, at least show a bit of patience…i know it’s cold but seriously…
Sooo, before the homestand, there was a huge majority of us that voted in Matt’s poll that 5-2 would be the acceptable performance in this 7 game homestand against two craptastic teams. To attain that minimum threshold, the mets will have to win three straight against the Nats.
So,
–Scale of 1-10, what is your confidence level that this team will win 3 straight to attain that 5-2 homestand threshold???
I say 2.5.
0.0, they have no chance
if you look at it in terms of probability. we should have a 75% chance of winning game 2 and 4. game 3 is a tossup- ill say we have a 50/50 chance.
the probability that we win the next 3 games is 28% (arbitrary, i know). so ill put my confidence at 2.8
i say split with nats, 1-2 against stankees..
ERA 2.25 16 IPs 19 Ks.
The line belonging to Guillermo Mota
at least the marlins lost
Fire willie!
now batting, the 6th best ss in the NL
It’s good to hear some fans at the game keeping the hope alive.
Uh oh. Double switch coming up
willie , thats how you do a double switch….
Willie didn’t notice, he’s too busy with:
A.) Editing his resume so he can be bench coach in Boston and get a ring, because he’s a “winner.”
B.) Consulting his gut.
C.) Thinking about how much stronger the pen will be when they send that uppity youngster Smith back down to the minors yet retain Sosa.
D.) Fantasizing about sweet, oh so sweet, Champagne.
E.) All of the above.
Ooooh, oooh…I know, I know…
E. All of the above.
2008 — Willie for manager of the year!
As Mr. Hoyt, my 8th grade Math teacher, would say, “A-plus for the day!”
Rivera’s mentality here must be “you can’t hit a 6 run HR”
just to add to the misery….d wright will hit a grand slam and we’ll still lose.
of course, ground out when it counts… is he still your hero???
Of course. We are all human…
Baseball is a game of averages. Dave has tons of tallent. When he breaks out of this slump, he is really going to break out.
Livan Hernandez is 6-1 for the Twins.
or not
Typical D.W. Hits a hr with no one on and grounds out with the bags loaded. I love David too, but you guys have to stop defending him. He never gets a big hit and is now hitting 260
Just get it over with…FIRE WILLIE.. Do it before the Yankee series, spark this team before the road trip. Nothing will ever change. So glad I didn’t go freeze to watch this disaster.
typical d. wright, typical mets. i’m sorry but i think he’s overrated
You realize he is on pace for about 140 RBIs, right? I’ll take that overrated any day. If even half the players cared as much as him and Wagner, we’d be ok.
can pedro start on wednesday instead of in a simulated game?
what the mets need is for wagner to drill dukes, especially for those little league cheers!
Look out on the bench, MadBilly might throw a water cooler at you.
Wow. Elijah Dukes is…interesting.
Why is Billy in this game?
Gary and Keith think he asked in after what happened the other night. Who knows.
Why is Randope still our manager?
Cuz the stupid FAN put pressure on Omar to give Willie an extension and now the Wilpons are hesitant to cut ties.
wow billy wagner… none of these relievers could have been stretched out for 2 innings?
to all the loddy doddy met fans on here, that go through posts of true baseball fans that like to ADMIT when their team sux, you deserve randolph, and delgado, and minaya and castillo, and 13-1 to the pirates, and ‘these things happen, its a long season’
Keep drinking the kool aid.. keep buying tickets to watch this crap… keep buying the merchandies, wear your met hat proudly tomorrow..
or we can stop watching until they give us somethign to watch..
but hey, i drink the kool aid too.. its like a train wreck you cant look away from.. i want to see how we DONT make the playoffs this year.
At least cerrone is strating to hurt like the rest of us and admit to it..
hey carlos, we are still the team to beat right???
Its ok…the other Carlos is bored.
Why do you hurt me, Michael?
I’ve always been loyal to you.
wow, the couple 1000s that are still in the stadium are cheering pretty good.
Can’t stand using Billy in these situations. He’s a closer, and wants pressure. This is so unnecessary.
THis is one of those games that, IMO, isn’t as systemically bad as it looks from the score. Really, it proved a few things:
1) Figgy isn’t the answer for the rotation. He doesn’t have the stuff to get further than 5, and will still give up some runs by the end. So, better suited to the Sosa (aka the Oliver) role
2) Sosa really does stink, and they should bite the bullet, trade him or eat the money. Send him down, and be done with it. Figgy can fill that role OK.
3) Beltran is looking better.
4) playing games on cold, raw, wet, windy nights really really sucks. DId that way too many times coaching my sons LL team in April and October!
5) Alou is simply amazing. Pray that he sells his soul to the devil (whatever that might be these days!) and stays on the field for the rest of the year.
So yes, this is one of those games you write off and move on. Look at the positive, 12 hits and 2 HRs!
all very good points, still hurts, but they are good points
I’m with you, stickguy. And I’m not abandoning Figgy yet, at least for the long man role. He has had major control issues, but he stays in the game. The bats are going. Sometimes a pitcher stinks. Can’t win ‘em all.
HOORAY FOR UNDERACHIEVING!
When does the apologist post get put up?
Well, Cerrone will talk about how its not Willie pitching or hitting. And how its not time to panic yet.
The apologists will blame Omar, or the booing, or the weather, or the earth’s rotation, or some other assinine rationale…
Willie will talk about turning the page, and grinding it out, and the little bumps in the road, and how its early, etc…
ah, figure out if Armas or C. Vargas is most likely to have a run of success and get them up too. Unless Bostick does well and they ride that horse for a while.
We always here things about Veterans not wanting to be encouraged/managed in the dugout. We hear Willie say things like my guys know what they have to do. They know how to turn it on..(Not quoting)
it seems like this team doesn’t know how to make any sort of a comeback. The second they got down big, they stopped working counts and swung at some really bad pitches.
Is there ever a time that the manager or a teammate will refocus the club.. It seems like in most dugouts(not just the mets) that players and managers rarely do things like that. How did baseball get this way? It really defies logic. I was just thinking that in every other team sport I can think of, you have constant interaction between player and coaches. You have adjustments being made and a constant push for guys to play at there best.
I know its a completely different situation but in football and basketball, there is rarely a second that coaches and players aren’t interacting. IMO the Mets need to more of this. Tonight the mets tried to hit the 6 run home run. When bloops bleeders and singles are exactly what we needed..
The one thing that becomes more and more apparent is that this team underestimates its competition. They lack a killer instinct and an edge. We’ve seen too many of these types of games already, where the mets either blow them out or we get blown out. I think that speaks volumes about this teams mentality.
It relates to the man at the top, the terrible Randope
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