Mike Nichols

News: Figueroa and Sosa DFA’d, Pagan to DL
By Mike Nichols - May 13, 2008 4:26 pm

The Mets have announced RHP Nelson Figueroa and Jorge Sosa have been Designated for assignment.

The Mets have also placed OF Angel Pagan on the 15-day disabled list with a injured shoulder.

In their place the Mets have recalled RHP Claudio Vargas, RHP Matt Wise and OF/IF Fernando Tatis.

…good to see the Mets make the correct moves and field their best possible 25-man roster…i’m also happy to see Joe Smith stay with the major league club, he has pitched well and didn’t deserve a demotion…

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Comment by sheaheykid
2008-05-13 16:28:14

YES NO MORE SOSA WHOOOO (if only Mota had been given this same treatment last year… oh well… they’re learning!)

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-05-13 16:52:09

While i share your enthusiasm about sosa not being here….It opens the question about what we are going to do for long relief…….I do not know wise’s career, has he ever been a long man?

If not the starters have no choice but to step up and go longer…now more than ever

Comment by sheaheykid
2008-05-13 16:54:47

I seem to remember there being some spec. that Wise could serve as a long man, although I’m too in a rush to go swig beers before takin the 7 out to shea to check the numbers… alternatively I’d like to think Heilman could be stretched into that role, or Figgy makes his way up as a long man if/ when armas is sent down.

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Comment by sheaheykid
2008-05-13 16:56:11

er vargas… chuknowhatimsayin

 
Comment by kandiman
2008-05-13 16:58:19

Who cares, willie doesn’t use a long man like that, even when we are getting blown out or blowing someone out he still goes with his inning by inning routine, changing pitchers burning through the whole pen.

 
Comment by MetsLv31
2008-05-13 16:58:28

Unless I’m mistaken, Figgy needs to clear wavers. Really I would’ve liked to see Sosa DFA’d and Figs shift to the pen in the long man role. I know we wanted Wise up here, but if there is an Ollie implosion or Vargas has to be pulled early who are you going to bring in?

 
Comment by DK
2008-05-13 17:08:04

Really hope he clears… i think he would have been a pretty good fit in long relief.

 
Comment by metterman
2008-05-13 17:22:40

ugggg this frustrates me…I can’t believe they DFA’d Figgy, hold off on bringing tatis up until after tues then send vargas back down. Now we are depending on him. I don’t like this move at all.

 
Comment by signupcall
2008-05-13 17:38:48

Can’t send Vargas back down, once he’s up, he’s up for good or else he’d have to clear waivers…

 
Comment by Peter H
2008-05-13 17:40:29

Really? With the way Figgy has been battered the past few weeks, you want to keep him in the rotation?

 
Comment by Necciai27
2008-05-13 18:21:41

Re: Matt Wise being a long reliever…

Wise came up as and pitched in the Minors exclusively as a starter. It was only after the Angels realized that a starter with no breaking pitch (Wise throws a four-seam fastball, traditional sinker, changeup, and tailing two-seam fastball) couldn’t go more than about 5 innings before the hitters figured him out. Hence his transition to the bullpen. He could handle the role, I’m sure (and was a spot starter as late as 2004).

Re: Figgy…

He was a great story. He was nice while he lasted. But I think Claudio Vargas will be better in the long term. Also, for those saying “oh, look at some of the garbage we got on the 40-man…Ruddy Lugo?” Yes, Ruddy Lugo. He’s been a reliever almost all of his career and is now exclusively starting at New Orleans. And he has an ERA below 2.70, has given up fewer hits than innings pitched, has had precisely one bad outing, and has K’ed 33 in 40 innings (while walking 10). I’d be willing to use him. And Adam Bostick? Same thing. Bostick is putting up very good numbers in New Orleans and finally has command of his fastball AND his curveball, plus he’s throwing his changeup more. He’s not in the “junky project” class like Jason Vargas. This guy really looks like he has some upside. Whilst it’s not like either of these guys will pitch better than Pedro, you can also probably expect them to give you *at least* what Figueroa gave you if not more, considering both are younger with room for more development.

 
 
 
Comment by DK
2008-05-13 17:00:17

I am ok with sosa being sent, but arent we risking a team claiming figgy? Maybe I am wrong on this?

 
 
Comment by IronMan
2008-05-13 16:28:50

give the mets credit we blasted them for thinking they would not do what was right for the team …. but in the end they made the right choice….

Comment by Xavier22
2008-05-13 16:53:52

what you mean “we” kimosabe?

 
 
Comment by backinbusiness
2008-05-13 16:45:39

Where did the other post and its 20 comments on this topic go?

Comment by metties1
2008-05-13 16:47:53

posts have been disappearing today. There was one on El Duque before that is gone now

 
Comment by Tidewater
2008-05-13 17:20:20

Yes, that is very frustrating, as I made several there.

 
 
Comment by C Dubb
2008-05-13 16:45:46

I admit I haven’t been following the farm teams very closely this season, but isn’t there someone better to call up than Fernando Tatis?

Comment by gbaked
2008-05-13 16:53:25

Tatis has been tearing it up down there…

Its seems like a good time to see what the old guy has left in the tank. Its only gonna be a couple games.

If you dont bring him up now, then there was absolutely no point in keeping him… Who knows, maybe he gets a 2nd wind, goes on a 2 week binge of solid play and helps up beat the yanks!

Comment by adropofvenom
2008-05-13 17:03:03

I’m not sure I’d call .242/.345/.592 ‘tearing it up’.

Sure, the OBP is decent, the slugging is great….but a .242 BA is a .242 BA. Still, he was probably the best option unless you wanted to call up newbie Val Pasucci whose hitting .308/.393/.731.

I kinda wish they would have gone bold and called up one of the kids mashing in AA…..but that probably would have been a mistake. Its just im more interested in them then I am with anyone on our AAA roster right about now.

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Comment by Tidewater
2008-05-13 17:22:28

.837 (is my math right?) OPS is plenty good. To cite OBP and SLG and then say .242 is still .242 suggests you haven’t fully accepted the OBP/SLG formula. Clearly .242 is NOT still .242.

 
Comment by toomanyuniforms
2008-05-13 17:32:48

That’s true, but BA is still important, especially if you’re trying to project major league numbers from minor league stats.

Too bad about Figueroa, but I guess he lost his cool, lost his control, and that was that. Time to give someone else a shot.

Good moves by the Mets. I’d love to see someone claim Sosa, and am looking forward to seeing if Wise can bring anything to the table.

 
Comment by metsftw
2008-05-13 17:38:06

batting average isn’t important for someone like tatis. OPS is a better indicator of offensive ability anyway.

 
Comment by metsftw
2008-05-13 17:41:25

also, that’s a .937 OPS.

 
Comment by Tidewater
2008-05-13 17:54:36

Even better! Thank you for the math check!

 
 
 
 
Comment by dykstraw
2008-05-13 16:45:46

sorry to see figgy go. but it was the right move. hopefully he ends up back in the organization but i think a team will take a shot on him.

sosa, on the other hand, LATER DUDE!

Comment by metterman
2008-05-13 18:04:45

why did it have to be done??? I’m confused at this notion.

 
 
Comment by Prismo
2008-05-13 16:46:37

Well I’m not happy about Figgy, but I guess it had to be done.

On the other hand…thank god - no more Sosa!

 
Comment by metties1
2008-05-13 16:46:52

true. Nice moves…

Side note - Gotta love how Gossage manages to take a shot at the Mets in his criticism of Joba. There is a link to the article on the front page of the ESPN website

 
Comment by DerekBellsMustache
2008-05-13 16:48:37

Tatis could be a decent DH for the weekend

Comment by cafuq
2008-05-13 16:58:45

i would rather alou dh, less chance for him to hurt himself

Comment by DK
2008-05-13 17:18:08

too bad we dont see igawa then it wouldnt matter what our lineup looked like…

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Comment by toomanyuniforms
2008-05-13 17:33:45

Exactly. Alou DHs, Endy or Marlon plays left.

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Comment by ghobot
2008-05-13 16:48:42

man, i actually think figgy would do great in the pen.

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-05-13 16:50:05

me too. i hope he gets there eventually…….

 
Comment by NYMBosco
2008-05-13 16:51:25

I am surprised they did not keep figgy for long relief. Good riddance to Sosa….Way to do the right thing Omar!!

 
 
Comment by backinbusiness
2008-05-13 16:50:43

It isn’t going to be pretty on here tomorrow night if Vargas is terrible. I applaud Omar for making bold moves but I think this one goes overboard.

Why not DFA Sosa only, move Figgy to the pen, and Vargas up for tomorrow’s start and see what happens? DL Pagan and bring up Wise. We can be short 1 on the bench for a few days as we get a look at both Vargas and Wise.

Simply put, and understandably this is worst case, what happens tomorrow if Vargas goes 2.1IP, 6 ER, etc and needs to be pulled. Who is coming in?

Comment by dykstraw
2008-05-13 16:53:38

like in every other game our starter is out early

everyone

 
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