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…i took most of today off, and did not 
watch the game…instead, i listened to it on the radio, while running in and out of a few appointments with my wife…
…each time i caught the score, i could just sense the doom and gloom bubbling up around Shea Stadium…
…sure enough, i get back in the car, flip on the radio in time to hear, “1–0 Nationals,” and i could only shake my head…
…seriously, i was speechless…
…i just can’t believe they dropped three of four to the Nationals…i really can’t…i mean, collectively this site’s readership agreed that 5–2 would be an acceptable home stand before playing the Yankees…the Mets went 3–4…against the Reds and Nats…
…to say the pressure is on this weekend, in the Subway Series, which is basically a public relations war for the affection of the New York media, would be an understatement…
…fact is, the Mets have essentially been a .500 team since last summer…and, frankly, i’m getting edgy…and judging by your reaction, management’s reaction and the team’s reaction, i am not alone…
…i’m trying real, real hard to stay positive, which should not be difficult since the team is just inches from first place, but it is…
…if i owned the team, my biggest concern right now would be that fans will begin tuning out because of frustration and a lack of fun…sure, there are plenty of organizations and fan bases who would embrace a .500 team…we, however, as Mets fans, have been led to believe this organization would be better than that…which is not to say they still cannot be…but after last season, when we felt like we were sold a false bill of goods day in and day out last September, it makes it that much harder to stay tuned in today because it feels like the same script is being replayed…
…fortunately, you and i are total die hards, so we’re not really going any place…but, i cannot say the same for other fans…
…i will continue to believe this team can turn it around…however, to do so, some changes may need to occur because .500 is not going to hack it…
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What a letdown today…a major opportunity wasted against the Nats.
As much as I hate to say this, Willie will be gone within two weeks unless we can get to 5 over .500.
You want to give Randolph another two weeks? Come on, we know everything we need to know about Randolph and this club after a quarter of the season together: they are a bad fit.
If the Wilpons were decisive they would put Randolph out of his misery tonight.
I’d give him the next 10 games. Come home from a winning road trip and Willie gets to keep his job (provided the Mets don’t follow it up with a .500 or worse homestand). Anything less than a winning road trip and he should be fired.
It really is ridiculous everytime I see Willie Randoplh give another depressing speech i just want to crack him in the face, I mean is it me or does it sound like he gives the same speech over-and-over again everytime the mets lose, and hell even when they win he sounds depressed he should be gone. I wanted him outta here ever since he came to the mets, I’m a mets fan so why do we always get washed up yankee managers they sicken me I Hate the yankees so please don’t bring in another Yankee manager!!
You know it’s bad when the normally even keel Cerrone is getting edgy….
“Even-keeled” is the adjective. “Even keel” is a noun. Whattaya expect from a former yankee catcher?
Groan @ the grammer police.
I hope you’re being ironic.
Agree, but Matt nailed it…I am personally in minor panic attack mode yest still hopeful that the team can start a winning streak.
We need one.
I hear you. This team is too talented to be playing like this. But I am dumbfounded as to what it will take to turn them around. I watch them take these listless at bats and it’s like ugh, do you even want to win anymore, or are you just showing up because you have to? It’s frustrating. I don’t go overboard on here like most other fans, but I have to admit, I can understand their frustration.
I agree with everything Matt said, but cyclone, you say that this is too talented a team to be playing like this. And I’ve agreed with that, and probably all mets fans have also. But maybe we are all wrong. Maybe, this team really is not that good. The problem is that just about everyone on the team at one point or another in their career has had an unbelievably amazing season. And if they all had another one at the same time, we’d be world champs. But in reality, maybe some of their “great” years were just flukes. Maybe they really are not that good. Wright is a good player and probably a great defensive player. But maybe he isn’t an amazing player. Reyes, well maybe he is just an average player, and so on. I love these guys and I’m not putting them down. I love Reyes and Wright and I hope I’m wrong and it’s just a bad year and the next 12 years they put up hall of fame numbers. But what if? What if we are all being fooled into believing that this is a great team and should be playing great and winning now? And maybe all we will ever get is a .500 team. That is unless something changes. And I think that something is Willie’s departure. We’ll see.
Agreed. Everyone talks about Willie not getting this team to over-achieve but maybe he has, in 2006. Some players over-achieving last year. On paper they look fine but in reality there are too many holes in that paper. Look closely at all the players on this team and see how many of them cant perform based on age, or injury, or inconsistancy. In reality they maynot be anything but a .500 team.
I’m with you, miker.
I think the frustration (exemplified best, by the booing) percolating amongst Mets fans is one of disappointment. I, like you, thought the world of this team before the horrific collapse last year. I attributed it to just bad luck, a fluke. Once we got Johan, I started saving pennies for PLAYOFF tickets. I thought, for sure we were ticketed to the World Series.
This year has got me thinking differently. Like you said, maybe this team just isn’t as ‘talented,’ as we all once believed. Every 2, 3, 4 game winning streak will continue to titillate my hopes but 40 games is a quarter of the season (25%) and if that sample isn’t big enough then I don’t know what is. Whether Willie gets the boot, or not, the talent on this team might be revealing itself to be problematic for ANY manager…
No, I definitely hear what you guys are saying. But I look at this team (on paper at least) and I see -
The cornerstones of the franchise in Reyes and Wright, who still have not hit their prime.
In my humble opinion, the best centerfielder in the majors, in his prime.
A Cy Young winner in his prime in Santana.
One of the top closers in the game in Wagner.
A great young pitcher in Maine, and a young fireballer (even if he is inconsistent) in Perez. Pelfrey is also looking like he may be righting the ship.
A good defensive catcher and a guy playing better than we thought in Church.
What was advertised as great strengths in the bench and middle relief.
Even without Pedro or Duque, this was still good enough to win the division. So I am sitting here like, WTF happened? I mean, I try to keep it all in perspective, and I keep a good sense of humor about this team because, it is just baseball, but like I said, I am just wondering, for a team that was a basehit away from the World Series 2 years ago, not to mention one of the most exciting teams to watch, how and why they have morphed into this listless, not to mention boring, team over the past year or so? As a Met fan for 28 of my 33 years, It’s disheartening.
Oh well, at least I will always have the memory of 1986. Some of you guys on here don’t even have that, except on Mets Classics….
I still have memories of 69
cyclone
i think you have overlooked overlooked one major flaw that is at the root of this teams hitting woes: the lack of a true clean up hitter who puts fear into the heart of pitchers.
By saying this I am not attacking Beltran but pointing to the glaring fact that Delgado is not doing the job he was brought here to do and that there is no other bat in the lineup that approaches that quality.
If there were I think it would improve many of the other hitters.
While Wright and Beltran are streaky very good hitters with pop they are not true clean up hitters.
The bench and some other bullpen spots are sketchy at best.
Matt, imagine if you missed the only no hitter in Mets history
impossible….the Mets weren’t gonna score in this one if Pelfrey had thrown 21 no-hit innings
At this point, I think he’d have gladly signed up for that with the way this one actually ended.
Mr. Cerrone, this club has played sub .500 (74-75) baseball since June 1, 2007. I see no reason to believe they will turn it around. Can you please write what it is that gives you hope, or is it just blind faith?
…Because it’s a long season?
JDuelz, are you suggesting the length of a season has some bearing on the belief that the Mets will stop playing poorly, especially when they have played poorly over the course of 150 games?
and they should have decent starting pitching
read between the lines
specifically the last three lines
The Mets are a good offensive team if Reyes is Reyes and Wright hits in the clutch and Beltran drives in runs and Church keeps surprising us. The two major problems I see why this team won’t be anything more than a 500 ball club is No. 1………Willie Randolph - he has to go, the team has stopped playing for him. No. 2………………………Delgado is washed -up. You can not have your so-called clean-up hitter (even though he is now batting 6th or 7th he is still your clean-up hitter) hitting 200 and barely getting the ball out of the infield. He is a major clog to this offense and this offense will never reach it’s full potential with him killing rally after rally. Unfortunately there is no real solution to the Delgado problem so this is why I think this team is just a 500 ball club. Hey, this is not new, they’ve been playing 500 ball since last June! That’s enough body of work to come to that conclusion.
I feel the same way, Matt. I’ve never been an advocate of “Fire Willie” scenario, but last night and today may have pushed me over that cliff. Since we can’t seem to put a finger on exactly WHY this teams has been failing, since they are failing on SO MANY levels, I’m starting believe the manager may be the one to blame. As for the fanbase tuning out, I know I will be this weekend, and we’ll see where it goes from there. I refuse to subject myself to misery all summer. And it’s a shame, because for 20 years, with my expectations low, I’ve always been able to enjoy the game. But with heightened expectations the past 2 years, it’s nothing but sickening disapointment.
the words “first place” should be banned from the mets locker room and organization at large
much like eric mangini banned the use of “playoffs” in 2006
if we learned ANYTHING from last year, it’s that the standings don’t matter
we cannot control what the rest of the division does when we aren’t playing them
I was a willie fan, but this is unacceptable. Even f it isn’t his fault: we can go .500 with him we can go .500 without him. This is awful. You can’t go 3-4 against the reds and nats
Right now, the Mets are a very mediocre team. If their players step up and perform to their capabilities, they’ll be better than mediocre. Whether that will be good enough to make the playoffs remains to be seen. Finally, how about a round of applause for New York’s baseball teams. The New York Metropolitans (20-19, tied for 3rd place in NL East pending tonight’s Phillies-Braves game) will head to Yankee Stadium tomorrow to face the New York Yankees (20-22, last place in AL East).
They have been 500 for a year
you’re right. they have been mediocre for the past year. maybe, we’ve all overestimated how talented this group is.
I’m a huge Reyes fan but he’s regressed, Castillo has bad knees and a terrible contract. Wright has been inconsistent (he used to be the one thing we could always count on). Beltran is hitting below .240. Alou has played 2.5 months out of the last 6 months. Church has actually outperformed expectations. Delgado has declined and is really a streaky hitter (his entire Met career has been one good month followed by one bad month; unfortunately his good is no longer what it used to be and his bad is worse than it used to be). Schneider has been solid but missed time due to nagging injuries. Overally, the offense really isn’t there.
As for our pitching, outside of Santana and Maine, the remaining starters have been mediocre (with the exception of a few outings by each of Pelfrey, Figueroa and Perez). The bullpen has been good in some spots (Wagner, Smith, Schoeneweis) and terrible in other spots (Sosa and Heilman).
The sum total is a mediocre team. While I think it may be time for Willie to be fired, the really frustrating thing is that I don’t think it will make a difference. The players play hard and want to win but most of them don’t take losing hard enough. As a result, they get dressed after games and go home without being held accountable in front of the media. The only thing that might wake these players up is the fear of losing their jobs and I just don’t see that happening.