Mike Nichols

preGame: Mets vs Nationals (Game Four)
By Mike Nichols - May 15, 2008 12:10 pm

The Game:

The Mets (20-18) look to split their four-game series versus the Nationals (17-24) today at Shea Stadium, starting at 1:10.

The Lineup:

The Pitchers:

RHP Mike Pelfrey (2-3, 4.86 ERA) starts for the Mets. Pelfrey was the tough luck loser in his last start versus the Reds on May 10, allowing two runs on eight hits while striking out three and walking one over 6.0 IP. Left-handed batters are hitting .426 against Pelfrey this season. He lasted pitched against the Nationals on April 15, throwing seven shutout innings, earning a victory. He is 2-1 with a 4.30 ERA in five career starts versus the Nationals.

RHP Jason Bergmann (0-1, 11.68 ERA) takes the hill for the Nationals. Bergmann is making his first start since being optioned to Triple-A Columbus on April 12. In his last start on April 9 versus the Marlins, Bergmann allowed seven runs on nine hits while walkinig ne and striking out four over 5.0 IP. he is 2-1 with a 3.96 ERA in nine career games, three starts, versus the Mets.

The Notes:

Carlos Beltran is batting .455 with a homerun and 2 RBI in 11 career at-bats versus Bergmann.

David Wright is 9-for-28 (.321) with 2 2B, 1 HR and 6 RBI during his current seven-game hitting streak. He is 1-for-11 lifetime versus Bergmann.

The Nationals are 7-6 in series finales this season.

Austin Kearns is bating .357 (5-for-14) with 1 HR and 4 RBI in his career versus Pelfrey.

How To Catch It:

Today’s game can be seen locally on and heard locally on WFAN.

SNY’s broadcast team of Gary Cohen, Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez will be calling the game live from the Upper Deck.

The Bleachers:

For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.

…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets

1,193 Responses to “preGame: Mets vs Nationals (Game Four)”

  1. npanzeca says:

    Why can’t Alou play today? He played half a game last night. As always Willie plays his worst lineup in a weekday afternoon game. He can’t be fired soon enough for me.

    • Wright88 says:

      What is wrong with this lineup? Alou will always get the daygame off after the nightgame no matter how much he’s played. It’s not just about how long he was in the game, its the preparation it takes to get in the game as well. Besides we have a bunch of OF’s who need AB’s. This is your regular day game after a night game lineup so get used to it.

      • npanzeca says:

        I’ve been used to it ever since Willie has been here and i’m as sick of it as I am of him. Give me a break with preperation, this guy has played baseball all his life.

      • npanzeca says:

        I never knew Anderson was an outfielder, always thought he was an infielder that played outfield, thanks for that bit of wisdom.

        • Wright88 says:

          Please, that is such a stupid comment. He’s a utility player, who gets most of his AB’s in the OF. Look at last years splits for him. 90 innings in the OF, only 7 in the IF.

        • npanzeca says:

          Randope has made him a nearly full time OF, doesn’t mean its right.

        • Wright88 says:

          Well when you have 4 or 5 2B as we did last year what do you want him to do? There are logical reasons to to criticize Willie. This is not one of them. Its petty.

        • therealsince86 says:

          npanzecadope does not realize that Anderson can’t really play IF anymore except for 1B. But that’s besides the point.

        • npanzeca says:

          How about not carrying that many IF’s, that could be a start. I know its not always his call but how about have some guts and debate this with Omar? Oh I forget, he never argues with umps and will never argue with Omar…….we’ll agree to disagree on this.

        • mrose says:

          npanzeca is someone on this site I want an ignore button for…he never has logical or intelligent things to say, just insults the team

        • DK says:

          wow i am suprised castillo is in there… wasnt all the talk he was going to the DL?

          Wonder if tatis can play a little 2B…

        • cyclone says:

          Ouch….

    • Hernandez_1B says:

      I agree with you that Alou should be playing today after taking half of last night off. But their “worst” lineup? Come on….besides Alou and Schneider (day game after a night game) They have their normal starting line up out there. Lets not be so mellow dramatic

      • npanzeca says:

        do you really think Shrek catching and Church not in the 2 hole is a good lineup? Oh, ok

      • plasto says:

        Agreed, but it sure would be nice to see Castro go last night so Pelfrey could throw to Schneider again. His last start bucked the trend, but he’s done much better with BS behind the plate so far this year.

        Fingers crossed. This would be a tough one to lose.

        • plasto says:

          *would have been nice.

          need more coffee …

        • therealsince86 says:

          How many starts does he have with Castro behind the plate? Maybe it was just how bad Cassanova was.

        • Wright88 says:

          I don’t like Castro as a game caller, but eventually you have to learn to pitch w/o a certain catcher. Pelfrey pitched well last time w/o Schneider so we’ll see what he does this time.

        • DK says:

          Yeah i was at his sat night game… even without Schneider he pitched well… After the perfomance Vargas gave, Pelfrey knows he better step up If pedro ever returns he might be out the rotation.

    • Frank Taveras says:

      I agree that Willie can’t be fired soon enough, but not for this. Alou is made of glass. He needs lots of time off unfortunately.

      • npanzeca says:

        I think I’ll tell my boss I only want to work 1/2 day today and not at all tomorrow, that should be fine right?

        • therealsince86 says:

          If you are old and one of the best employee’s in your field then yes it most likely would.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          Are you a one-in-a-million physical talent whose productivity depends entirely on the proper function of a body ravaged by surgeries and injuries incurred through years of physical punishment playing professional athletics at the highest level?

          If so, and if your body aches every morning and will for the rest of your life, go ahead and ask for a day off.

        • MetsLv31 says:

          Are you older than most in your profession, very valuable to your company, and ridiculously injury prone? Then yeah I bet your boss would ok it.

        • gameball says:

          Fine with me. You sound like you need a vacation.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Way to really make my post look bad. Uh that’s what I was going to say.

        • MetsLv31 says:

          Lol quick someone else phrase a question comparing npanzeca to Alou

        • khmustache says:

          well said…the mets need his bat in september

        • therealsince86 says:

          Just another typical comment by Npanzecadope.

        • npanzeca says:

          I don’t get paid all the millions he does so laugh all you want considering his actions are affecting our team. Keep paying 50 or more bucks a ticket to watch an inferior product while guys like Alou laugh and go home to their mansions. The Wilpons love sheep like you.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Npanzecadope, you just don’t get it. If you were that good in your job you would be paid the same ratio.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          You resent that he makes millions, but you spend a significant amount of time attacking him on a blog in the middle of the day. Ever wonder why professional athletes make millions?

        • harrychiti says:

          I wondering if npazneca is commenting on metsblog while sitting at work?

          That could knock a day and a half off your work week without having to ask a bosses permission…

        • npanzeca says:

          I have something called pride in my job, have worked it for 30 years and don’t beg for or take days off. you are clearly part of the “its ok we are still in first” gang from 2007, how did that turn out?

        • therealsince86 says:

          Nope, dope.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          I, for one, was NOT part of that group. I saw the Collapse coming, and I wanted Willie dismissed after it happened. But I don’t have to whine about every little flipping move Willie makes. He’s not going to be fired before June 1, if at all this year. Get comfortable with that, and root for your team.

          And opinions on the collapse have absolutely zilch to do with whether or not it’s prudent to sit Alou today. Nothing.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Exactly. This entire Willie mess will take care of itself. If we continue to play poorly he will be fired. If we start winning he won’t and everyone SHOULD be happy. Either way I am not going to make my every post be about the impending doom of the Mets because Willie is still here.

        • npanzeca says:

          I thought this place was about being able to vent if needed without being attacked. Guess I was wrong.

          Lets go Mets!!

        • therealsince86 says:

          Yes Npanzecadope you were wrong, this is not a venting post. It’s a blog, one that used to be excellent until so many irrational fans came on here venting and whinning and complaining all the time about the same things over and over again.

        • MetsLv31 says:

          Dude you called us sheep, apologists, and commented on thereal’s mom…

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          Precisely and precisely. It’s a blog where Met fans are permitted to comment on the news and comments posted by the bloggers. There’s some venting, sure, but it’s not your headquarters for boobird primal scream therapy.

        • WozzyBear says:

          I don’t agree with “npanzeca’s” comments, BUT, where on this site does it say people are not permitted to vent? I don’t see that in the rules anywhere…..

          Everyone needs to get over themselves and stop telling everyone else what is permitted and what’s not. To each his/her own….

        • MetsLv31 says:

          He can write about whatever he wants, but don’t complain that you’re being personally attacked while writing about someone’s mom with your next post….

        • gomets019 says:

          TO ALL FANS WHO CLAIM THE WILLIE SITUATION WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF-THINK AGAIN!
          “if we keep playing badly he’ll be fired eventually, if not June 1, then after the season”
          Do you morons think time stands still?
          Church and Scheider-our best offensive players so far this season are only locked up til the end of ‘09. Alou is probably gone. Fmart may or may not be ready by next year-ditto Carp and Neise. Ollie, Pedro, and Duque may all be gone for good. Wagner, Feliciano, Santana, Castillo, Castro, Anderson, Easley will all be a year older. We’ve had as much talent as anyone on paper the last 3 years and have nothing to show for it. The entire roster could be different, and not necessarily better, by the start of next year. Thats when you want to change managers-to get more from a team You’re not even sure about the identity of? Lots of you sort glass for a living, right? Rey Ordonez was right. Mets fans ARE stupid. 60% of them, judging by the latest Willie approval rating. Let’s just waste a year. No big deal, huh? Always next year. Sounds just like Willie, no wonder you like him so much. You make me sick

    • NYMBosco says:

      I hpe the wilpons have seen enough of willie. He needs to go this afternoon…Typical sleepy, malaise day game lineup fielded by steady willie. He needs to rest his guys even when they haven’y played full games like alou. Unbelievable..he never shows any urgency in needing wins he must go now…

      • npanzeca says:

        Be careful with your comments or risk being attacked personally. And Alou is hands off for some reason.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Not his Npanzecadope, just yours. He has been on here a long time and earned it.

    • shinjosplints17 says:

      You got to play Alou, he did not play the whole game last night, Not to mention the 35 he missed this year.

  2. Gasface77 says:

    “RHP Jason Bergmann (0-1, 11.68 ERA) takes the hill for the Nationals. Bergmann is making his first start since being optioned to Triple-A Columbus on April 12.”

    Translation: We are getting shut out.

    • npanzeca says:

      Get ready for another disappointment today, maybe 1 run in 6 or 7 innings.

      • therealsince86 says:

        Ok, I am getting ready. What must one do to get ready? Should I bang my head into a wall? Get drunk before the game? Should I just not even watch the game? It’s already over? I guess I should go make some bets in Las Vegas.

    • IronMan says:

      ok i laughed really loud when i read that but i also feel like crying because its true …….

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Exactly what I was thinking. . . . If it was Hudson, we’d shell him.

  3. atlantasnumberonemetsfan says:

    Wait..is Castillo really playing?? I thought he was going on the DL??

    • Gasface77 says:

      He probably is after the game today so he will be out for the full two weeks. Why would we want to screw him with his vacation time. We don’t want no retroactive BS.

  4. met pete says:

    I understand its a day game after a night game but considering Pelfreys numbers with Schneider behind the plate and anyone else why not play him. Honestly I know its May but considering last year, this is a must win game…we can’t lose 3 outta 4 to the Nats at home, a “championship” team should not do that

    • npanzeca says:

      A championship team shouldn’t have to fight to win the 4th game to earn a split.

      • metaje says:

        to quote willie….”its a marathon…not a spirint…its a long season man….just another game man…no sense of urgency man”…..cant wait to see you fired man (or as omar would say…”ya know”

    • cafuq says:

      his last game, in which he pitched pretty well, was with castro being catcher

  5. mikey says:

    I think 5 times this year the Mets have faced a pitcher who was struggling only to have trouble. Odds are that today is no different

    Chad Billingsley
    Tom Gorzelanny
    Ted Lilly
    Bronson Arroyo

  6. jimyager says:

    When looking at the lineup and th epitchers you would think that the METS wil walk over the NATS and go into Yankee Stadium on a posotive note, you would be WRONG!! I have no faith at all in this team and allthough I feel that they should t-off on this NATS pitcher, I know better than that. I dont know what the team is doing , but, ITS NOT WORKING !! Eother Willie is NOT yelling enough or he is yelling to much I dont know/? They are having too many team meetings or not enough? I dont knwo, but, ITS NOT WORKING!! Its time to do something different. Dont wait until its ti late. Do whatever it takes to light a fire under this underachieving team. I hope we loose tonight and get sweept by the Yankees. Perhaps that will get them going. Im sick of the 7th and 8th inning looses and I want to see them win 5 or 6 or 7 in a row, loose 1 and win 4 more. This win 1 loose 1 is CRAP.

    • npanzeca says:

      That will help out because hopefully the Wilpons will be upset enough to fire him, but that won’t happen, they are too pre occupied with what Dodger to honor next at Citifield while ignoring their own team.

    • mex84 says:

      What sucks is the team is starting to resemble the 1991 and 2001clubs that just never could get it going consistently. We may be a .500 team. Sucks, but you can just hope that something happens to change that.

    • therealsince86 says:

      I WILL NEVER ROOT FOR THE METS TO LOSE. That has to be one of the dumbest ideas possible. I want Willie gone but I would much rather win.
      And the general idea that Willie yelling or not yelling is the answer, that’s really funny.

      • MetsLv31 says:

        Agreed. If you aren’t rooting for a win why bother watching or being a fan of that team?

  7. mex84 says:

    Well I remember last week we had a poll showing most of us wanted a 5-2 homestand. Sucks that it wont happen, but lets root for a 4-3 homestand! Lets go Mets! Light these punks up!

    • therealsince86 says:

      No no I would rather them lose tonight and get swept by the Yankees and Braves. It’s good for the team.

    • metaje says:

      you could see this coming a mile away….once again folks the mets will never ever win anything with willie….sadly it might be better to lose now while there is still time to save the season….

      prediction….mets will be 3-7 on upcoming road trip….5 games out….and willie will finally be gone….let the Ken Oberkfell era begin

      • mex84 says:

        Well I hope it doesnt come to that, but I am hearing great things about Wally Backman. Get it done Omar!

        • therealsince86 says:

          How are you hearing great things about Wally Backman? Have you been attending spousal abuse meetings with him and Brett Myers? Who is currently telling you anything good about Wally? Seriously. That’s like me saying I am hearing good things about Gary Carter.

        • khmustache says:

          the guy has won at every level…personally i’d root for cobra commander if he could get some w’s

        • mex84 says:

          Publications. I dont know the whole story on the guy. He apparently has alot of baseball people who stand behind him and say he has gotten a bum wrap. Sounds like you know more then me.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          I want the Mets to win. Really do. Want Randolph to win manager of the year, take the Series, and pop champagne in a tickertaper.

          It’s never going to happen.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Most likely not. Even if we were to start winning then it would be that we were supposed to win. Randolph is in a no win situation right now. Time for him to move on.

        • cyclone says:

          I heard Cobra Commander racked up a lot of W’s in the Cape Cod league last year….

        • wallybackman'sfire says:

          My ears are burning. Somebody talking about me? I managed the South Georgia Peanuts to a first place finish last year. I can manage any team to first place.

          Go Mets!

        • wallybackman'sfire says:

          On the Mets radio-cast they said the Mets are 5 for 28 in this series with RISP……

  8. I’m with mex on this one….Let’s do what we can today to just get this W and head into the Bronx with a positive attitude!
    Let’s Go Mets!

  9. khmustache says:

    the more they talk about scho the more i respect that guy. he’s one tough b*****d

    still should’ve been on the dl last year though

  10. NY Cuban says:

    Lets just get the W here and end up the mediocre home stand at 4-3. Lets continue the .500 baseball and we can all keep spending our money to root for this team. This team has completely drained me. Its just one game, its early. Its a little rough patch, we’ll get our rhythm soon. Can’t wait.

    • therealsince86 says:

      You really should just take a break then man. I still enjoy having hope. It would be pointless for me to even keep watching the games or coming on here if I thought there was no hope for this season.

      • NY Cuban says:

        See…I honestly started out that post trying to be positive. I really want to believe, but the more I typed, the more I couldn’t keep lying to myself. I hate this team. Not the Mets, I can’t stand the players in the uniform. I hate the manager. I hate the way they play the game. Its such a blah, boring style. They give me nothing to cheer for, and much less, have hope for. As least in the 90s, we knew what we were. What are we now? A .500 team? The favorite in the NL? A huge disappointment?

        • therealsince86 says:

          Then at this point you may just need to move on. Pull for the Mets in general but find another pass time. You can’t get that worked up. I understand that Willie needs to go, that we are not playing up to potential and there are a lot of holes. But I still have hope that tonight when I watch the game I paid to watch that they will win and I will do the same this weekend. If they don’t I will be sad and angry but I will still have hope for the next day. Shoot I even did that all throught the 90’s. I would still get up the next morning grab the paper and look to see who one.

        • NY Cuban says:

          After last year (and the fact no one was held accountable), I feel like the crazy fan (Randy Quaid) in Major League who spends the whole season waiting for the other shoe to drop.

        • khmustache says:

          nice analogy…i definetly feel that way sometimes

        • therealsince86 says:

          I realize that, but it’s over. We can’t go back, otherwise I would have traded Heilman, LOL.

        • cyclone says:

          “Wild Thing! You make my butt sting!!!”

          LMAO

      • DK says:

        seriously what have you seen in this team that gives you so much hope? tell me i want to be as positive as you but i just dont feel good about this team…

        • therealsince86 says:

          Nothing, but I would be miserable without hope of them winning. What fun would that be? Do you think that the Rockies entended on going to the WS last season? There is always hope for a decent team in baseball. I really enjoy following the Mets and I have done that through the ups and downs and still look forward either way to rooting them on.

        • NY Cuban says:

          Yes, but the Rockies were overachiverers, who you can get behind, admire and enjoy watching. The Mets right now are underachievers

        • You are right on the money! We sometimes forget that, in reality, we are fans of a game! Yes, we are very invested in this team and this game, but in the end it should be something we do for fun. The minute that watching them isn’t entertaining for us, we have the right to turn off the TV…or leave the stadium…or just stop following them all-together. It is our right to do that. For many of us, that isn’t an option because we simply care too much - for better or for worse. Regardless, if as fans we decide to follow this team - let’s follow them 100% of the way and see where it leads. Who knows? We may win it all…we may not…either way, I can’t stand to not be a part of it.
          Let’s Go Mets! =)

        • cyclone says:

          Cuban is alright with watching where it leads, as long as it leads to Willie’s firing….

    • cyclone says:

      Where’s my champagne?

      • DK says:

        when i think of champagne i think deon sanders / tim mcarver

        • cyclone says:

          I wish Deion would have smashed the bottle over McCarver’s head.

          Oh well, Maybe one day I will see that come true when Elijah Dukes is part of a championship club…lol

        • DK says:

          haha that dude is a time-bomb hopefully he didnt hear Gary talking about his rap sheet during the game the other night…

    • mex84 says:

      I took a break from the team during the 1991 season. Real frustrating but it worked. I did not read a sport article for a whole month and felt better. The team actually did well during that month and were back in contention only to fall flat on their face before the year ended. Dont watch if its affecting you so much that it pours into your daily life and makes you a miserable sod, not worth it.

    • npanzeca says:

      Shhh, don’t be negative, you’ll wake all the sheep and apologists.

    • HoJoWright says:

      here, here

  11. dr jones says:

    The had better not get blown out today or you’ll find me in the Mezzanine all by myself with giant poster calling for change. I say all by myself because of the lack of fan attendance lately. That right there has to show the wilpons everything they need to know.

    What is going on with fan attendance lately? the ballpark is barely half full.. That is a sad turn of events for the final season at shea.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Played the Reds and the Nat’s. That will do it every time.

    • NY Cuban says:

      Well, I have eaten 3 sets of tickets this year because its not worth the gas or tolls to watch their display of baseball. I actually “save” money by not going. And all 3 games I ate, we lost, so I have to say I was happy I skipped.

    • shea1012 says:

      The weather has been horrible. Even last night, it was nice during the day - but absolutely freezing at Shea when the game was played. Come June, when it is nice at night, the kids are out of school and we play teams like SF, SD, LAA and COL, the place will be fuller. At least god willing it will - I have eaten tickets to three games already!

  12. Thee Bruce Dickenson says:

    I am starting to think the Mets are not as good as they are being portrayed to be.The way they have played so far proves they are not that special….. Hopefully, they start to play better and they are consistent or it will be a very upsetting season…. again.

  13. zen says:

    i want the mets to win today. didn’t know there was another option for fans unless it was the nba or nfl and a big time draft pick was coming out.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Not on here anymore Zen. I really wish that Matt would split up the comment sections. One for the ones who want the Mets to win and think they still can and one for the ones who think they can’t win and want them to lose.
      Then maybe we could have actual intelligent debates on things that actually matter.

      • zen says:

        there have always been a lot of critics posting and i have learned from them and have been convinced of a few arguments along the way.

        unfortunately, it has really taken a terrible turn. odd since the blog itself is rational and positive.

        it is what it is. let’s go mets!

  14. Nightlife says:

    Wow. 100+ pissy comments and the game hasn’t even started.

  15. jay15 says:

    I don’t understand how people can be complaining about the lineup. They are resting the catcher because it’s a day game after a night game. Everyone does that. And they are resting a guy who would end up on the DL for sneezing wrong.

    He put Castillo in there who is most likely not 100%.

    I’m no Willie supporter, but this is not a give away- getaway day lineup

  16. howellmetsfan says:

    I thought the guys were going to call the game from the last row of upper reserved…Looks like they are in section 1 Upper Box!

  17. metsfan119 says:

    If the Mets get behind in this game, the crowd is going to get UGLY

  18. howellmetsfan says:

    Keep in mind Metsfan119, Its a bunch of little kids at the game today looks like its school trip day or something..wont be that bad ;)

  19. khmustache says:

    they shoulda stayed with the blue hats

    GREAT CATCH

  20. zen says:

    best centerfielder in baseball

  21. Nightlife says:

    Awesome catch.

  22. backinbusiness says:

    It’s funny listening to Keith’s shock at how small the players look from the upper deck. If it weren’t Keith, it might even border on condescending — yep, that’s what it looks like to us crazies who pay $575 for 2 tickets to sit up there every Saturday. Oy.

  23. khmustache says:

    wow what a horrible bunt

  24. howellmetsfan says:

    1,2,3 inning…. Minimal pitches, great start…..

    And as I type reyes hits first pitch 6 feet for a ground out….Whats wrong with him??

    Dare I say HGH?

  25. jay15 says:

    That’s 3 flyball outs for a guy who when he is “on” is supposed to be a ground ball pitcher with a good sinker.

    Should we be concerned?

  26. dr jones says:

    ” A leader needs to preach, He needs to preach, to those that are following, and what he is preaching, must be his belief. You must repeat and you must repeat until its understood”

    Bobby Valetine

  27. backinbusiness says:

    4 pitches, 4 bunt attempts!

    In all seriousness, why does Reyes nearly always show bunt on the first pitch, not bunt, and it is almost always a strike? Very annoying and peculiar.

  28. Nightlife says:

    Lets just bunt the entire game.

  29. khmustache says:

    you can hear all the kids screaming in the crowd…thats a welcome change

  30. theperfectgame says:

    Wow. I knew David hit lefties better, but he’s .450 against them this year versus .210 against righties. Weird…

  31. howellmetsfan says:

    Wow these little kids are going to be even more amplified with there annoying screams thinking every pop fly is a homerun

  32. Nightlife says:

    Watching Milledge play center is hilarious.

    • Gasface77 says:

      Speaking of hilarious, what Manny did last night was one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a baseball field. He is on his own little planet. The part that is funny is that he does not try to be funny and that’s why it works.

  33. khmustache says:

    i need fuller thicker hair

  34. theperfectgame says:

    How does Pelfrey look (just Gamecenter here at the office)? Is he laboring, or does he seem to have command of his pitches? So far (asde from Lopez) it seems like he’s been pretty darn efficient (can’t complain about 12 pitches in the first and 9 in the second). Although I suppose it’s still very early…

    • Nightlife says:

      He looks great so far. Command is good, gettiing alot of swings and misses (though only 1k I think) and ahead in counts.

    • backinbusiness says:

      he’s thrown 16 strikes out of 22 pitches. looking good.

      • theperfectgame says:

        Well, that’s always a good ratio. But how is he doing in terms of location within the zone? Is he hitting the glove consistently? Thanks.

        • backinbusiness says:

          I am mostly listening to the sound and taking occasional glimpes at the picture (playing it on my work computer), so I suppose it is fairer to say he “sounds” good.

  35. Nightlife says:

    Pelfrey looking sharp so far.

  36. backinbusiness says:

    Big Pelf is looking good. 21 pitches through 2.

    I seem to recall even a few weeks ago that concern about him tipping his pitches was the real reason for the mouthpiece, though I think he really does have TMJ. What changed? (I’m glad not to look at it!)

  37. howellmetsfan says:

    4, 5, 6 inning…. Not alot of pitches…keep it coming

  38. Gasface77 says:

    ..by the way, SNY is awesome. I think its great that they are doing the game from the upper deck. They should do this every year for at least one game.

  39. NY Cuban says:

    Delgado is awful. He is gaining Willie status in my little notebook.

    • khmustache says:

      to be fair he’s been a lot better this month…even had a 9 game winning streak…not saying we should re-sign him or anything, just saying he has been better

    • NYMBosco says:

      The Mets need to ship Willie and Delgado to the South Georgia Peanuts in exchange for Wally Backman!

  40. khmustache says:

    what happend to the darth vader music?

  41. howellmetsfan says:

    I agree stache, Delgado’s at bats have looked better this year as opposed to last year. I know thats not saying alot. But it is true so far.

  42. howellmetsfan says:

    Put a circle around that one for Mr, Wright!

  43. jws366 says:

    What is this story about scho and toughness or something? People were making posts about him before but i have no idea what happened…

    • pauliemas says:

      Is Willie the worst manager in the game right now?

    • khmustache says:

      he spent the night in the hospital last night…something with his appendix, but it was so bad his extremities were turning blue, and he still came to the stadium. it’s just nice to see something like that when guys are going on the dl with broken fingernails (clay buckholtz).

      • jws366 says:

        Who would have ever imagined that schoenweiss would be a fan favorite and Heilman would be public enemy #1 by may?

  44. twassel says:

    He woke up yesterday in intense pain similar to post-chemo symptoms from when he had testicular cancer. He had to call an ambulance to take him to the hospital, where he was treated.

  45. howellmetsfan says:

    Crap, the real Mike Pelfrey is trying to take over..

  46. Nightlife says:

    Ruhroh.

    Come on Pelf.

  47. Nightlife says:

    Alright, nice recovery.

  48. howellmetsfan says:

    I DVR’d that Bobby V Special…anyone here watch it? any good?

    • marvelousmarv says:

      It was okay. Nothing great. It was more about him in Japan than anything else so it was hard to get into it for that reason.

    • khmustache says:

      really good…just weird seeing him in japan

      • dr jones says:

        its going to be on again on Monday at 3pm eastern time Espn2..

        I’m watching it again right now.. He truly is the anti Willie and a great leader..

        ” A leader needs to preach, He needs to preach, to those that are following, and what he is preaching, must be his belief. You must repeat and you must repeat until its understood”

        Bobby Valetine

  49. marvelousmarv says:

    I’m going to call it now….NO HITTER

  50. howellmetsfan says:

    marvelous im going to call it now, u just Jinxed it!

  51. casey s. says:

    I would love to see the following stat:

    What the ERA is against the Mets for pitchers that have a plus 5.00 ERA in general.

    I bet you it’s sub-3.50.

  52. Nightlife says:

    Damnit Jose. 2 abs, 2 pitches seen.

  53. howellmetsfan says:

    He might be ugly to watch be Castillo is 2-2.

  54. marvelousmarv says:

    he can’t do that after the pitcher makes an out. His head still isn’t straight from last year. He’ll show a flash here and there. If it keeps going like this we’re in trouble.

  55. arudeawakenin says:

    I think Willie should move Castillo to the leadoff role and Reyes into the 2nd spot.

    until reyes gets his game back of course.

  56. howellmetsfan says:

    Wow its like they let a kid from the upper deck play RF for a play!

  57. khmustache says:

    LET’S GO KEARNSY…LET’S GO

    LET’S GO KEARNSY…LET’S GO

    LET’S GO KEARNSY…LET’S GO

  58. Nightlife says:

    Kearns has been pretty awkward this inning.

    • backinbusiness says:

      this series, really. yesterday (was it the day before?) he had that super weird leap on the church hit.

  59. ToastyJoe says:

    Howie said Wright and Castillo weren’t running hard on the dropped pop-up. True? This is the kind of crap that should not be acceptable to Willie.

    • Biscuit says:

      Remember when Reyes was benched because he didn’t run out a ball?

      Too bad Castillo is not 22 years old or Willie would have benched him too. What is not good for Reyes to do is OK for Delgado and Castillo to do.

    • khmustache says:

      agreed…he sat reyes for the same thing last year

    • backinbusiness says:

      on the replay, david is actually walking out of the box. no good, “captain.”

    • Koko says:

      Well if that is what Willie should be fired for, every manager in baseball should be fired for their players doing exactly the same thing.

      Routine flyball for the 3rd out that was dropped. 99% of MLB players would have run with the same speed. 0.5% would have hustled a little more. The other 0.5% would have been thrown out at 1st or 3rd for not even running that fast.

      • ToastyJoe says:

        A manager should only be fired for something like this if it’s affecting the bottom line, i.e., wins and losses. I absolutely think the Mets’ laid-back, lazy attitude resulted in the collapse last year and the mediocre start this year.

      • dykstraw says:

        no other manager in baseball is managing the 3rd highest payroll after one of the worst collapses ever last year

        • Koko says:

          There are two managers that are managing teams with higher pay rolls and doing worse then the Mets.

          The collapse wasn’t Willies fault or one players fault or any one person’s fault.

          It was a total team collapse. There was very little a manager could have done to stop it.

  60. Nightlife says:

    And of course the only solidly hit ball this inning is right at someone.

  61. HoJoWright says:

    can we pleaes not swing at the first pitch and make this pitcher work a little

  62. khmustache says:

    kranepool just said he wants to do steroids! hilarious

  63. pauliemas says:

    ever since willie has been here, can you remember the mets winning a game they had to have?

    collapsed in sept of 05

    collapsed in oct against a weaker team, even got swept by worst team in NL when trying to clinch.

    collapsed against washington and florida last year.

    .500 team this year on a team labeled best team in NL

    not sure how anyone can support this loser, he has done NOTHING to show that he can win a big game.

    • Nightlife says:

      Are you bot? Because I swear you’ve made the exact same posts in this thread about 30 times now.

  64. goheels42 says:

    Keith said someone would of scored if they were busting their butt, and that Wright should have been on 2nd.

    The replay clearly shows Castillo, head down in a casual jog, and I don’t want to hear why risk his quad on a routine ball, if it’s a risk, DL him.

  65. jws366 says:

    Delgado is the master of the “off-thebag-tag.”

    • casey s. says:

      and, wright is the master of the “can’t throw straight” play.

      match made in heaven?

  66. howellmetsfan says:

    i think watching the replay Castillo is still running very gingerly, i can give him a lil break, David stoop there like a girl pissed at himself

    • Biscuit says:

      If so, then put him on the DL or the bench…

      This is why Willie is hated by many. He sat Reyes for not running hard, yet when the vets do it, there is always an excuse.

      Anyone ever fire a manager in-game?

      • backinbusiness says:

        Wright’s not a vet.

        I suppose it is possible that Willie decided what he did to Reyes was a mistake? (I don’t, necessarily.)

      • gomets019 says:

        I love it, an in-game firing. Finally something to root for this season!

  67. edwin nieves says:

    this guy has a 12 era and he’s shutting us out! Some Sad Sh!t.

    • Gasface77 says:

      see my post all the way at the top of this thread. That was a given before the game started.

  68. BillySandman says:

    church homerun… calling it now.

  69. theperfectgame says:

    Good inning from Pelfrey. Pitch count back on track.

  70. Nightlife says:

    Nice comeback inning for Pelf after struggling a little in the 3rd.

  71. dykstraw says:

    hey guys, relax. it’s not the manager’s job to get his players to play hard.

  72. reyes has NO discipline, and he never will.
    he’s an idiot savant.
    he swings like a sandlot kid- no pitch counts, no walks…

    the mets have to STOP referring to him as the Catalyst.
    he’s way too inconsistent to rely on.

  73. jws366 says:

    Those chairs must be so uncomfortable compared to the studio seats…

  74. PacmanJones says:

    For those of us at work, did Wright not run out a ground ball or something?

    • ToastyJoe says:

      Failed to run out a pop-up that was dropped. Ended up on first, should’ve been on second. Unacceptable.

    • jws366 says:

      No, Wright hit an easy pop up to Austin Kearns who dropped it…had wright been running it out full speed he would have been at second…but I don’t think its THAT big of a deal…

      he should have been at second, but im not going to crucify him for it…same goes for castillo

    • Koko says:

      He hit an extremely routine flyball to Austin Kearns. 99.9% of the time it is caught for the third out. Both Wright and Castillo slow jogged to their bases. Kearns ended up dropping the ball (have no idea why). Wright only got to first and Castillo only got to third. If they had run harder, Wright would have been on second and Castillo probably would have scored.

    • khmustache says:

      pop fly with 2 outs and castillo on. austin kearns dropped it, but since luis and david weren’t running they had to settle for first and third. castillo had a shot at home and wight should’ve been on 2nd

  75. Koko says:

    Well if Castillo and Wright is what what Willie should be fired for, every manager in baseball should be fired for their players doing exactly the same thing.

    Routine flyball for the 3rd out that was dropped. 99% of MLB players would have run with the same speed. 0.5% would have hustled a little more. The other 0.5% would have been thrown out at 1st or 3rd for not even running that fast.

    It’s wrong, but it’s the culture of baseball these days throughout MLB.

    • NY Cuban says:

      No, Willie should be fired for soooooooo many things, I don’t have that kind of time.

      • PacmanJones says:

        Ny Cuban… shhh you’re being pessimistic and bitter, I’m not sure what gave you the impression that Willie should be fired, but you should have a brighter outlook on life!!

        Lol… sarcasm. Look below my brother.

        • Koko says:

          Both of you should have a brighter outlook on life. It’s only baseball. We all have much more important things to worry about in the grand scheme of things.

        • gipper82475 says:

          That’s the difference between a baseball fancier (it;s just a game, it;s a pleasant way to pass a summer night, it’s the past time) and a baseball fan (living and dying with every pitch, fully invested in their team, etc).

  76. PacmanJones says:

    This team is an absolute joke, losing 2 of 3, soon to be 3 of 4, to the WORST road team in baseball. Guaranteed this game goes scoreless into the 7th, when the Nats then score a few runs and the mets bats stay asleep with the attitude, “oh, its over anyways.” I swear after the depleted Yankees beat us up this weekend its time for Willie’s head to roll… right off his armed crossed shoulders. While we’re at it, somebody tell this loser to shave his little pathethic mustasche.

  77. goheels42 says:

    What are the odds we see Heilman trotting out for the 7th????

  78. Bruce Boisclair says:

    So, for those of us following in the office, is Pelfrey as good as his line looks today? (Especially the lack of hits…. I didn’t say the magic words so no jinx.)

    Wish they could get some hits off of Bergmann– I thought they would slam him today.

    • khmustache says:

      not bad. wouldn’t call it a gem, his control is hit and miss, but he’s been getting outs when he needs them

    • almar1965 says:

      Thought they would slam A pitcher with a 11.00+ ERA to start the game?

      You must have this team confused with another team.

  79. stickguy says:

    I like this pelfrey better, but why does the offense look good for a while, then suddenly disappear? They hit better aginst the top pitchers out west than against these scrubs.

  80. jws366 says:

    He just shot the clown!

  81. dr jones says:

    “you just shot the clown”

    Keith Hernandez

  82. PacmanJones says:

    It doesn’t matter about the jinx, Willie is going to pull Pelfrey in the 7th after he gives up his first hit, proceed to bring in Heilmian who will give up 4 runs and at the press conference when Willie is asked if it will effect his decision making in similiar tight spots he’ll respond with….

    Are you ready??

    “NO, HEILMAN IS A BIG PART OF OUR BULLPEN, I TRUST MY GUYS.”

    Willie, didn’t you say that last night?

    “GUYS, YOU NEED TO TRUST YOUR GUYS, I TRUST HEIL, I WIlL CONTINUE TO TRUST HEIL, HE’S BEEN LIGHTS OUT FOR US.”

    Willie, he hasn’t been lights out since 2006.

    “I TRUST MY GUYS”

  83. metsfan119 says:

    I’d love to see Pelfrey throw 9 no-hit innings but lose in the 10th 1-0

  84. metsfan119 says:

    The fact of the matter is you know the second the Mets give Pelf a lead he’ll implode

  85. mr.gee21 says:

    Willie: “I just don’t like the way Pelfrey is tossing. I think I’ll get Heilman up. He can finish this game off.”

    • PacmanJones says:

      Speaking of which, is Free Willie aware that there is a man named Pedro Feliciano on this team?

  86. howellmetsfan says:

    Wow watching Kearns play Right is almost like watching Hundley Play Left…shudder…

  87. NY Cuban says:

    Will we see Heilman today?

    • Biscuit says:

      Next inning….of course!

      “I thought Pelfrey was gassed, guys.,” says Willie. “I mean he threw 70 pitches in a day game after a night game.”

      “Um, Willie, he didn’t pitch last night,” answers the reporter. “In fact, all he did was sit on the bench.”

      “I’m confused,” Randolph replies.

      “Willie, um, did you think that a day game after a night game affects everyone?” the reporter asks.

      “Yeah…am I wrong?” he answers.

      (SILENCE)

      “Look, I know my guys,” Willie says with his arrogant tone as he walks out of the room.

      • PacmanJones says:

        Dude, you gotta be careful with the mock conversation. The pro-willie crowd, Willie lovers will jump all over you. See above.

  88. Bruce Boisclair says:

    By the way, not to beat a dead horse, but I am impressed by Flores. I don’t know how he projects, but he is still young and looks like he will be a Molina-type catcher.

    (I actually think that with Schneider, we have one of the best catchers around from a defensive standpoint, and his offense has been OK so far. Looks like the pitchers love him…)

  89. howellmetsfan says:

    Delgado wants to be a manager fine…Fire willie, Delgado can manage and lets go out and get Texeira or call up Carp!

  90. jws366 says:

    I will die if Pelfrey is the first…

  91. Nightlife says:

    Pelfrey is pitching great.

  92. howellmetsfan says:

    If Big Pelf does do what were not going to say hes doing so far, every game will be announced from the upper box!

  93. GeorgeThomas says:

    Big Pelf is throwing a no-hitter and Bergmann (he of the 11.00+ ERA) hasn’t allowed a run.

    WTF is going on?!?!?!?!

  94. backinbusiness says:

    Just wanted to say, Go Big Pelf!, since an onlooker might think from the comments above that the Mets were losing this game.

    Geez.

  95. gometzies_18 says:

    How great would it be if PELFREY threw the only no-hitter in Shea?

  96. metsfan119 says:

    Jesus, this guy has an ERA over 10, I know the Mets lineup blows, but can they at least get a run off this guy?

  97. theperfectgame says:

    Boy, the Nats are bailing Pelfrey out somewhat with regards to that pitch count. They’ve had several 1 or 2 pitch ABs following 7 or 8 pitch ABs.

    The pitcher I honestly covet is Roy Halladay. No one throws fewer pitches to get a hitter out than he does. It’s such a shame his career has been wasting away north of the border…

  98. metsfan119 says:

    Reyes took a pitch!

    • WozzyBear says:

      And he struck out on a crappy pitch….Man, he just swings at everything and anything these days!

  99. theperfectgame says:

    gotta be able to help yourself, Pelf…

  100. gipper82475 says:

    Gotta love Eddie Kranepool calling out Willie. Quite an indictment from the quintessential Met.

    Great game so far by pelf. So much for the “he can only pitch tio Schneider” theory.

  101. Nightlife says:

    Okay, Jose lets not make it 3 abs 3 pitches 3 outs.

  102. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    REYES IS A D O G, HE WAS LAST SEPTEMBER AND IS NOW!

    • NYMBosco says:

      Reyes needs to be benched for a couple of games and he needs a meeting with omar and willie to get to the bottom of what his problem is ADD, drugs, alcohol….whatever is caudsing his putrid play. Ever since he was signed to that contract last year he has been dogging it…

  103. metsfan119 says:

    Remember the days when we legitimately compared Reyes with Jeter and Rollins? Seems like ages ago

    • dykstraw says:

      remember how we laughed at phillies fans who claimed that rollins was as good as reyes? boy do i feel stupid.

      • metsfan119 says:

        I never thought anyone could be more overrated than Jeter, but Reyes proved me wrong

  104. mr.gee21 says:

    Hey, Reyes took some pitches. Way to go.

  105. PacmanJones says:

    Everytime this ballclub faces a pitcher they’ve never seen with an ERA over 9, that means 8 scoreless innings against the mets. Don’t even need to watch this team against this type of pitcher. Put Brandon Webb, Hudson or Peavy on the mound though and we’ll put up 3 in the first 2 innings.

    • gipper82475 says:

      Really have to question the quality of the Mets advance scouts.

    • jws366 says:

      Can Matt call up the Elias Sports Bureau for this on? I would imagine its a really embarassing stat…

      • PacmanJones says:

        If we compared the Mets hitters AVG from 2006-2008 against pitchers who previously won 15 games to those pitchers they’ve never seen before, I GUARANTEE they hit better off of 15 game winners then the rookies and journeymen with career 8 ERAs.

  106. khmustache says:

    old guy stealing!

  107. metsfan119 says:

    How does Wright have so many RBIs? I never see him get hits with runners on

  108. howellmetsfan says:

    Jose Reyes…Most Exciting player in Baseball

    RIP

    2003- September 2007…..

  109. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    Anyone here the guy who called wfan this morning and said Reyes is doing drugs?

  110. PacmanJones says:

    Ready for the goldenboy to choke AGAIN with RISP? I love how SHEA gets on everything for choking except the golden boy. They better shower him with boos if he makes an out here.

    • PacmanJones says:

      +1 BOOOOOOO

    • theperfectgame says:

      The guy’s at or near the top of the team in just about every offensive category. He’s also near the top of the league in categories like RBI and OBP and OPS. Not everyone can play like they do on your MLB 2K8 game…

  111. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    DAVID WRIGHT STINKS! WHEN IS IT TIME FOR MET FANS TO START TO GET ON THIS STIFF. HE NEVER GETS A BIG HIT! HE IS TEFLON DW!

  112. howellmetsfan says:

    Just a question…Why arent we Booing Wright out of the Stadium yet??

    • PacmanJones says:

      Thank You…

      • metsfan119 says:

        I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he had a great season last year and actually showed up in September. He also has 32 rbis (although god knows how, I can’t remember the last big hit he’s had)

        • PacmanJones says:

          Wright accumulates a lot of AROD rbi’s… with big leads or a big defecit. Anything remember Wrights LAST walk off hit? How about even a go ahead hit in the 9th on the road? Anyone?

  113. boomingranny says:

    oh please

  114. zen says:

    wack-jobs are out en mass today.

    let’s go mets! big pelf!

  115. GeorgeThomas says:

    Of course the first Met no hitter will happen while I’m stuck at work.

    I secretly hope Big Pelf doesn’t do it. Sorry, just being honest.

  116. jws366 says:

    “See what happens when you throw strikes?”

  117. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    NO ONE SAY THE 2 WORDS PELFREY IS DOING RIGHT NOW!

    • PacmanJones says:

      It’s already been said about 15 times already in these exact comments, pay attention.

  118. effectivelywild says:

    Gary shut up!

  119. boomingranny says:

    too late

    • PacmanJones says:

      You guys obviously don’t know Cohen, he’s notorious for stating “the first 15 retired,” “hitless through 6,” “the first 18 retried” before going to every commercial break during this special time.

  120. howellmetsfan says:

    Zen im not saying anyone deserves to be booed, but if Fans are going to boo on bad performance,, why is Wright exempt, last 2 weeks hes been Horrid!

  121. metsfan119 says:

    Can we please get a freaking run for this guy

  122. boomingranny says:

    oh puhleez , boo shmoo

  123. Nightlife says:

    Man, Pelfrey.

    I should just stop watching this game now. I’m getting false hopes. I mean this is Mike Pelfrey.

  124. batsinthepelfrey says:

    not a word from here on out……

  125. PacmanJones says:

    Does it matter if Pelfrey does it in 9? I mean, does anyone honestly think we can string a run together off of BERGMAN in the next 9 outs?

  126. Santanaman says:

    I’m affraid if we put a few on the board that we will jinx Big Pelf

  127. m00kie says:

    where’s the mouthpiece?

  128. GeorgeThomas says:

    Does he have the mouthpiece in or out today?

  129. mr.gee21 says:

    Gosh, just imagine how much better Pelf could be doing with Schneider in there. Oh, wait…

  130. Wondy says:

    Well, we’re through the 6th. Time to get somebody up in the pen in case Pelf allows a baserunner.

  131. edwin nieves says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Pelf were to pitch a no hitter thru 9 innings and the Mets not get a run for him! Almost. Only good in bombs, horseshoes, and the NY Mets.

  132. Bruce Boisclair says:

    So, hypothethically, is it possible that if the current state of affairs continues (or we have to pinch hit in the 8th), could Willie put it Wagner to close it out in the 9th?

  133. metsfan119 says:

    this offense is just a disgrace

  134. npanzeca says:

    Shame we can’t even score 1 run off this bum, it was totally predictable though.

  135. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    Wright has not done a thing since Saturday April 19 in Philly. Trace the numbers. he was on fire that weekend and that has been it.

  136. miltenberg says:

    this is getting crazy…a mets pitcher going more than 6 innings…is randolph asleep at the wheel??? yank pelf! can’t we at least pinch hit for him so endy chavez can ground out?

  137. mex84 says:

    Man, if this goes 9 innings at 0-0 and Pelf is still on his game, MASS CHAOS SHALL ENSUE!

    • PacmanJones says:

      Willie will yank him hitless after he walks 2 in this inning because “he was really tiring.”

    • NYMBosco says:

      This lazy, pathetic offense of willie’s can’t even get a run for a guy who is pitching his heart out! Typical, tired, lazy looking malaise of a dead team…..no life, no fire, ground outs, strike outs, pop outs…..fire HoJo along with Willie…get rid of the entire coaching staff

  138. shamsky says:

    Come on Willie. Let’s take Pelfrey out and bring in Heilman..

  139. Santanaman says:

    yeah, that’s the way to be tough Delgado

  140. npanzeca says:

    And Delnoto K’s yet again.

  141. PacmanJones says:

    I feel a Petey situation coming on. Pelfrey will get robbed out of the biggest accomplishment a pitcher can have because this team fails to put a run together off of a pitcher with a 9ERA.

  142. NY Cuban says:

    If Willie blows this somehow, can he please be fired on the spot?

  143. Bruce Boisclair says:

    Is Bergmann throwing junk… does he have anything on his pitchers or do the Mets just look lost?

  144. toomanyuniforms says:

    Haven’t been keeping up with the thread, and will probably get attacked for this, but why would any pitcher, on any team, anywhere throw a fastball to a Met hitter. They flail at slop like starving sows. Maybe HoJo (notorious first ball fastball hitter in his day) should be let go. . . .

  145. metsfan119 says:

    just get it over with Pelfrey, let me feel the pain now

  146. mr.gee21 says:

    Arrrrrrrrrrrgggghhhh

  147. gomets6091 says:

    how ironic would it be if the Mets offense blew a chance for a rhymes with schmo-bitter today?

    • gomets6091 says:

      never mind then…that’s what happens when you’re following the game at work. At least he’d already given up the hit by the time I posted that, so no jinx!

  148. mr.gee21 says:

    Okay, put Heilman in now. Sigh.

  149. howellmetsfan says:

    Is Gary intentionally trying to mention it as often as possible??\\

    And thats that

  150. theperfectgame says:

    C’est la vie…

  151. rogasm says:

    There goes that

  152. casey s. says:

    so, now that he’s given up a hit…what? a FOUR run inning for the Nats?

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Maybe the oh-so-sensitive Met hitters will stop “pressing,” and actually hit some of the slop they’re getting.

  153. metsfan119 says:

    Now the Mets can concentrate on losing this series

  154. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    AARON BLEEPIN BOONE! HERE COMES HEILMAN

  155. NY Cuban says:

    Thanks Gary.

  156. backinbusiness says:

    Good job, Big Pelf. Nicely done. I wish I had my Go Big Pelf shirt on here at work . . . in Philly.

  157. metsforever says:

    That should just about do it. Pelf falls apart, bullpen will make it out of reach.

    Every team should start a random minor leaguer against the mets. Is it me, or do these type guys always clamp down on this team.

  158. mr.gee21 says:

    That throw out should erase the hit. Too bad…

  159. METS08WSCHAMPS says:

    RAMON!

  160. toomanyuniforms says:

    Man, that .640 OPS sure would fit in great on the Mets. The LMillz lovers can at least admit one thing: he wasn’t ready to play every day.

  161. khmustache says:

    nice throw ramon!

  162. Gasface77 says:

    Castillo credit on that tag….nice play.

  163. PacmanJones says:

    At least I didn’t miss the no-no stuck at work, would have never gotten over that, glad boone got the hit. Look at the bright side, HERE COMES HEILMAN! Can we bring him in the 6th instead of 7th? That way we’ll have four 1-2-3 innings to try to make up for his destruction.

    • GeorgeThomas says:

      I agree about the no-no. Oh, well.

    • NYMBosco says:

      Ok I want to see some serious pinch hitting going on to try to rally for a damn run. Alou better be coming off the bench to pinch hit..

  164. twassel says:

    All you pessimists think every negative comment is clever. It’s just so boring. Watch the game. Root for your team. You’ve got a great pitcher’s duel going on here. Enjoy it. Or STFU.

    • PacmanJones says:

      Willie Lover.

      • atlantasnumberonemetsfan says:

        Dude..you’re the one that wants the Mets to lose here…so you can get your pathetic way….stfu

        • PacmanJones says:

          I can’t get my way heh? My way would be to win a championship, but it looks like you’re content with playing .500 baseball for the past 150 games? Dude. Please stop using “stfu” it shows how unintelligent you really are and you counter points with statements that are irrelevant.

    • backinbusiness says:

      Agreed, and so do many of us.

      Big Pelf has gone 7 strong, and counting. 89 pitches. This is simply an awesome start for Pelf, and I’m enjoying it.

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Buddy, if you can’t handle a few negative comments about a team that can’t score against a pitcher with an ERA in the stratosphere and is at risk of losing 3 of 4 at home to the dregs of the league, you need help. If this is so boring, leave. Otherwise, refute the posts, don’t just condemn the posters. Today is OBVIOUSLY a mixed bag thus far. Happy and excited for Pelf, flummoxed by the utterly hapless Met offense.

  165. atlantasnumberonemetsfan says:

    THROUGH 7…NICE JOB BIG PELF….

  166. mr.gee21 says:

    Come ON — get Pelf a freakin’ win here!

  167. howellmetsfan says:

    This is turning into a grueling game of who wants it least!

    • PacmanJones says:

      Yeah, it’s a lazy getaway day. Although the mets are only going across town, so they have no motivation to get away. This will go into extras IF and only IF we don’t see Heilman until the 10th or beyond.

    • gipper82475 says:

      Just about. I mean, I love pitchers’ duels…but it’s a guy with an ERA over 10! C’mon!

  168. I_Need_More_Cowbell_Please says:

    Wow! Big Pelf can go another inning maybe?

    • Wondy says:

      Due up third this inning….if it’s not a sacrifice situation, i’m sure he’s gone.

      • I_Need_More_Cowbell_Please says:

        such a shame… Vargas didn’t deserve the L last night… and Big Pelf def deserve a W here

    • blains2000 says:

      Only 91 pitches so maybe.

      • Biscuit says:

        Not with “Quick Hook Willie” in the dugout…

      • PacmanJones says:

        I’m sorry, any pitcher that has an ERA of 8 and pitches against the mets for the first time? 8 scoreless & 10 Ks. Thats more like it. UNHITTABLE BERGMAN KOUFAX.

        • I_Need_More_Cowbell_Please says:

          when a pitcher with a bloated ERA come pitch against the Mets automatically becomes a CY Young contender!
          grrrrr

        • PacmanJones says:

          I wouldn’t go that far, they go RIGHT BACK to being garbage in their next start against the cellar dweller.

      • NYMBosco says:

        What is up with castro? He doesn’t have a hit since being activated! This sucks since Schneider is swinging the bat well…

        • Biscuit says:

          Not like he has had many chances to get in a groove. Gotta get him in there more often.

  169. Mingo says:

    He should go until he tires out. Not until he reaches a pitch limit.

  170. lewchr says:

    Problem is that he is due up this inning

  171. Koko says:

    Great job by Pelf. He didn’t implode/explode after giving up the hit and then hitting a batter.

    7 great innings!

    Let’s see if the offensive players are up to doing anything.

  172. mex84 says:

    Great job by Pelf today when we needed it! Cant say much for the hitters though. Lets get the kid a win!

  173. Nightlife says:

    Well, so much for that.

  174. lewchr says:

    Is this back to back solid starts for him?

  175. theperfectgame says:

    89 pitches thru 7… ahhh, that’s the good stuff…

  176. khmustache says:

    sweet! the kids gonna bat!

  177. backinbusiness says:

    Pelf is up batting, anyone care to retract their comments?

  178. Bruce Boisclair says:

    Interesting how both pitchers have about the same pitch count.

    Bergmann has 8K’s— unbelievable.

  179. shamsky says:

    Nice inning Mets!!!

  180. Kugaa says:

    this is a good game glad for pelfrey

  181. twassel says:

    If Pelfrey gives one up next inning (and I hope he doesn’t), how soon will the first Willie criticism be posted (”he gave up 2 baserunners last inning. He obviously lost it! Willie is an idiot!) Over/under: 30 seconds.

  182. blains2000 says:

    This dude has lowered his era by 4 runs. Geez!

  183. howellmetsfan says:

    HERE COME HEILMAN

  184. npanzeca says:

    Here comes the run that will end it. Man on 2nd, 0 out.

  185. dr jones says:

    Other than the pitchers i looks like nobody wanted to play today. Awful approach by the Mets. Do they ever have a game plan against these struggling pitchers.

  186. khmustache says:

    keith “you can bet your sweet bibby he’s gonna bunt”

  187. dr jones says:

    They better not loose 3 of 4 to the Nationals…. This is just mind boggling…

    Welcome to the suck.

  188. Biscuit says:

    why not walk Lopez here? set up the DP….

  189. GeorgeThomas says:

    Nice job keeping him in Willie!
    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  190. PacmanJones says:

    Game over. PUT IT IN THE BOOKS!

  191. npanzeca says:

    And there is your ballgame folks.

  192. Gasface77 says:

    What a hard luck loss this is going to be for Big Pelf.

    • Gasface77 says:

      …as a matter of fact, if the mets do not score in the bottom of the inning and get Pelf the win, I’m going to Yankee stadium to boo everyone I see tomorrow night. Mets fans, Yankees fans, Santana, Ed Kranpool, Gary Cohen, etc.

      • PacmanJones says:

        Dude, the Yankees are playing 500 ball with their roster on the DL, using a roster full of back ups and triple A/double A players, we’re playing to the same tune in a much weaker division with a roster full of “superstars,” although some have mentally traded in their cleats for a pair of reggaetone addidas classics.

    • PacmanJones says:

      Vargas and Pelfrey back to back days good pitching wasted. Really shameful. I feel the good ole’ grassroots FIRE WILLIE MOVEMENT has gained a few more supporters this afternoon?

      • backinbusiness says:

        What exactly did Willie do wrong in this game? It looked to me like All Star Mets couldnt hit a(nother) bad pitcher?

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          Willie is a macro problem. Big picture is that this team can’t get anything consistent going. This game is no different.

        • BigHangWithEm says:

          Maybe if the manager benched someone other than his favorite whipping boy (Reyes) for making awful boneheaded plays, the Mets would play with more urgency.

          Maybe if Willie didn’t rip players that are contributing (Pagan) the team wouldn’t constantly lay down and die around him.

          Maybe if Omar did the right thing and fire the manager that was at the helm of last year’s debacle and the 2006 playoff debacle, the Mets would play up to their talent level.

          Being a winning ML manager is soooo much more than making pitching changes (which Willie consistantly botches) and lineup moves. Willie is just not an effective leader of men.

  193. Mingo says:

    Okay so they get an easy run. I still leave Pelfrey in. If the Mets can’t score a run, they aren’t going to win anyways.

  194. howellmetsfan says:

    Lets Go Mets, Show some Heart and win this one for this kid who pitched his ASS off!! Score some damn runs next inning!

  195. PacmanJones says:

    Guys, I’m at work, tell me Aaron is AT LEAST warming?

  196. Mingo says:

    Don’t yank him willie

  197. dr jones says:

    New Mets slogans for this season

    The 2008 Mets, Welcome to the Suck.

  198. Mingo says:

    Not only is Aaron warming up, he is warming up both lefthanded and righthanded.

  199. backinbusiness says:

    I agreed with keeping Big Pelf in until this spot and I agree with pulling him right here.

  200. npanzeca says:

    A 3-4 homestand before going on the road for the Yankees and Braves, very nice!

  201. ravi3 says:

    Is Willie going to left Pelf finish the inning?

  202. miltenberg says:

    even right now I STILL wouldn’ t take him out…what’s the point? let him get the out…please quick show of hands who agrees with me

  203. Kugaa says:

    have some faith in the team

    • npanzeca says:

      I do, faith they aren’t scoring today.

    • ravi3 says:

      seriously…ever since Metsblog got big exposure all these jokers came in, and intelligent commetary went flying out the window. I don’t understand why these people bother watching games and posting here. I’m as diehard as the next guy, but have some faith…sheesh. Clearly most of them weren’t watching between 2002-2004.

      • dykstraw says:

        or the mets started completely sucking

        but let’s go with your theory lol

        • ravi3 says:

          Plus I’m not saying I’m satisfied with things at all…I am very frustrated it, but I still pull for the jersey. As long as Willie has the blue and orange, I will pull for him. He’s not the best guy, and yes he makes questionable moves. I’d also welcome the addition of a better equipped manager. However, I’m not going to take every opportunity to blast him, because it’s pointless. As long as he’s here, you’ve gotta support the guy.

      • PacmanJones says:

        Oh, the years that our payroll was 45 million opposed to 2ND IN THE MLB?!?!?! Yeah, those years.

      • toomanyuniforms says:

        “Faith” is “intelligent commentary”? I’m no fan of incessant, tiresome Willie-bashing, which is just noise, but I don’t see a lot of “intelligent commentary” from either side. You can intelligently pick apart what’s wrong with the team. Plenty to work with.

        • ravi3 says:

          Well I guess my post was a little confusing. I’m not saying faith is intelligent commentary…This used to be a forum for rational debating over our team…Now it seems like with every loss, the board becomes a place for unabashed Willie hating. All I am saying is that the people who are so negative need to not be so rash when discussing the team.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          You’re very right. Unfortunately, they have a point (this time), even if they can’t articulate it. The manager usually isn’t the problem. Here, it actually might be. Hence, the mob smells blood.

        • ravi3 says:

          But you can articulate that point without sounding like a jack@$$

        • gipper82475 says:

          Some people can, some can’t. Doesn’t change the underlying fundamentals that the team is a .500 team for about a year now and that nobody was held accountable for The Collapse. This leads to short tempers. Understandably so.

      • koosman says:

        yes, or between 1962-68. Or 1977-83. Or 1991-96.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          So, because the Mets have really, really, really stunk, we should all be happy when they just sort of stink?

        • koosman says:

          not at all. just trying to have a sense of humor about baseball. that is what it is, not life and death.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          I look at it the other way. It’s the people who can’t deal with any “negativity,” whatsoever who are taking it too seriously. Obviously, a lot of it is repetitive and tiresome, but so are the nagging comments about “believing in the team,” etc.

        • koosman says:

          Well, if they would start winning a bit that would fix everything. :-)

    • PacmanJones says:

      Name one instance where this club instilled faith in you post 06 Endy Chavez catch?

    • Runshouse says:

      Faith is bull.

  204. GeorgeThomas says:

    I hope they’re not booing Pelf.

  205. NY Cuban says:

    Great job Pelf. Even if you get the L, awesome job.

  206. gipper82475 says:

    Willie very fortunate this is a day game with all the kids’ groups. A night game with adult beverages would mean he’d get booed off the field again like last night.

    Great effort by Pelf. Too bad the offense mailed this one in.

    • metsno1fan says:

      I’m booing him from my desk in Manhattan. The kid pitched his heart out, let him try and get Zimmerman and walk off confident, it’s not like the Mets are gonna score anyway.

    • NY Cuban says:

      Ahhh…i see.

  207. zen says:

    fire rick down!

    free chip ambres!

    • GeorgeThomas says:

      Rick Down? Are you serious?

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      We can’t hit slop. That’s a problem that’s going to haunt us. It may be that HoJo is in over his head. Sorry.

  208. RetireNumber17 says:

    Randolph is an idiot. What is the upside of taking Pelf out here?

  209. NY Cuban says:

    Did they boo Willie today?

  210. npanzeca says:

    Come on now, top of the order, lets get a run here!!

  211. twassel says:

    He’d thrown 100 pitches. Willie kept it a 1 run game. I’d call that good managing.

  212. Santanaman says:

    Interested in what Reyes does here

  213. PacmanJones says:

    Ready for the reggaetone 3 pitch strike out?

  214. dr jones says:

    I’m sorry but there is something going on behind the scenes.. This team is not playing anywhere remotely close to their potential. How long does this have to go on for? Something is rotten in the big apple and I think its in Willies pants.

  215. atlantasnumberonemetsfan says:

    Guys, we couldnt ask for anything more from Big Pelf..he did a stellar job…

  216. NY Cuban says:

    Top of the order…lets wake up please!!!

  217. Nightlife says:

    Okay, number of pitches it takes Jose to make an out this ab. Over/Under: 3

  218. dykstraw says:

    the bright side is every embarrassing loss is one game closer to a competent manager

  219. howellmetsfan says:

    Ravi3 get off ur high horse! This team deserves this criticism!! They have been Mediocre at best! We have a right to be angry with the way they have performed! Just because a comment is negitive doesnt make it invalid!

  220. npanzeca says:

    Come on Jose, get it started.

  221. jay15 says:

    It’s easy to second guess and it’s hard to say whether you can fault Willie because he did the opposite of what he did yesterday (which seems to be what everyone wanted) but the bottom line is he just can’t seem to get it right.

    For someone who always “trust his guys” his feel for when to take guys out and leave them in seems to be wronge every single time.

    Everybody was saying that they need to win this game desperately. Well then you don’t let Pelfrey bat in the 7th with two strikes. You need to put a hitter up there. Guys like Wise, Joe Smith, and Sanchez are supposed to be able to go 1 inning. Pelfrey is not supposed to go 8 innings. If they were winning it’d be a different story.

  222. Santanaman says:

    I predict the final score Mets5-Nats 1

  223. PacmanJones says:

    Can Sean Paul just take the out instead of embarrassing himself looking like Tiger Woods from the rough?

  224. RPsJacket says:

    there you go. please steal second.

  225. npanzeca says:

    The ignitor is on!!

  226. mex84 says:

    Come on offense, get Pelf off the hook! Cant believe we might lose 3/4 to the Gnats.

  227. RPsJacket says:

    oh my god, no

  228. lewchr says:

    BUNT!!!!!!!!!

  229. howellmetsfan says:

    WHAT THE HELL WAS HE THINKING!

  230. NY Cuban says:

    here we go…now bunt him over Castillo.

  231. Nightlife says:

    Whoa. Reyes got on!

  232. RPsJacket says:

    no, that did not just happen

  233. npanzeca says:

    Another bonehead play, geez

  234. dr jones says:

    Jose Jose JOse Jose jdklfjsdlkfj

  235. PacmanJones says:

    Don’t bunt here… we know castillo isn’t very good at getting it down this inning, he’s heating up with the bat, hit and run!

  236. gipper82475 says:

    Horrible decision. He scores from 2nd anyway on most any basehit!

    • batsinthepelfrey says:

      he doesnt score from second on a sac fly though. hits haven’t exactly been plentiful today

  237. metsno1fan says:

    I don’t believe what I just saw (well.. heard).

  238. Koko says:

    Reyes use your head bumblehead. . . Sheesh, what did he really expect?

  239. Santanaman says:

    Reyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  240. NY Cuban says:

    incredible!!!

  241. Nightlife says:

    Okay. Now I’m a little mad.

  242. lewchr says:

    Can someone explain that to me?

  243. PacmanJones says:

    what happened, my gamecast stopped?

  244. dykstraw says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BUNT DOUBLE PLAY

    YOU CAN’T MAKE SH*T LIKE THIS UP

    • dykstraw says:

      CASTILLO THE GREAT AND INCREDIBLE BUNTER

      REYES THE MASTER OF THE BASEPATHS

      WILLIE, LORD OF THE CLUBHOUSE

      GET YOUR TICKETS NOW BEFORE I BURN MINE!

      THE 2008 METS!

  245. gomets6091 says:

    what the hell just happened?

  246. SPINK3 says:

    Somebody thats watching please explain what just happened with that bunt?

    • gipper82475 says:

      Castillo laid down a perfect bunt, Jose thought (and I use that term loosely) he should try for third because the catcher wasn’t covering….but Guzman ran over, caught the throw, and tagged Jose out about a mile in front of the bag.

    • gometzies_18 says: