Matthew Cerrone

Opinion: Underachieving, and Credibility
By Matthew Cerrone - May 16, 2008 12:39 pm

According to Bob Klapisch in the Bergen Record, Willie Randolph and Omar Minaya are ‘running out of time,’ adding, “They’re actually reaching a tipping-point moment, when Jeff Wilpon calls (them) into his office and says: one of you two is fired. You choose.”

Now, I keep reading and hearing that the Mets are underachieving. However, what if this is not true. I mean, maybe the Mets are achieving exactly what they are, which is a .500 or so team, like the overwhelming majority of the rest of the league, all whom are in search of a hot streak that may never come.

Seriously, look around the league. Outside of the D’Backs, find me the clear-cut, dominant team in the National League with an open path to the playoffs. Right now, I don’t see one. Both leagues are jam packed with mediocre, relatively-similar teams, most all of which have issues with pitching. So, this recipe is not exclusive to the Mets.

However, while some teams and fans can bounce around .500 and remain hopeful, such hope is missing around Shea.

What’s worse, my hunch is that Willie Randolph is lacking credibility with us, his players, and his bosses.

What’s interesting, though, is that I still hear insiders compliment him as being ‘such a nice man,’ who loves winning, who has a warrior mentality, and who wants nothing more but to bring a Championship to Shea Stadium.

The problem, though, in spite of these admirable qualities, is that he discredited himself last September by coming across as delusional and misleading, insisting that things would turn around when all signs pointed in the other direction.

So now, despite being a .500 team with more than 70 percent of the season yet to be played, when he tells his players and us that things will turn around, that it’s a long season and he believes in his players, instead of being patient and confident, we become more frustrated and closer to apathy, which is not good for ticket sales, morale or ratings – three things that I bet are pretty important in advance of a new stadium.

The sad thing is that had the Mets won just one more game against the Phillies last season, we would currently be in the middle of entirely different narrative right now.

However, perception is reality, and the current reality is that very few people seem to believe what Randolph is selling these days – no matter how right he may be.

For instance, in the last few months, a variety of stories have been published about players undermining Randolph, be it by shmoozing before games with the opposing manager, like with Manny Acta, or by ‘going over Randolph’s head’ by talking directly to the team’s Ass’t GM Tony Bernazard. Just yesterday, Billy Wagner spouted off to reporters making public comments about his teammates, just one week after Randolph told him explicitly to keep such remarks private.

Frankly, I believe a manager’s in-game involvement is overrated. He’s important, but he’s not as important as we want to think he is. The game is mostly won or lost by the players. However, those players need to be in the proper frame of mind. They do not have to like one another, they do not have to speak the same language, but they do have to be confident, positive, they have to believe in one another, and they have to all be on the same page when between the white lines.

Right now, the Mets look tight and nervous, they look like they are pressing – and understably so. I mean, they must feel the ‘tipping-point,’ as Klapisch writes – they must sense the tension in the stands, from their bosses, from the press, etc., and since they are human, I can’t help but believe this takes a toll. I suppose some teams can internalize this, and rally around it for good, but more often the team crumbles beneath it.

Assuming my hunch is correct, and Randolph has in fact lost a bit of credibility, then how is he going to keep his team from checking out mentally. How does he get them to respect and understand the warrior-like style he abides by? How does he keep his players from just riding out the season, content with cashing a paycheck and not dealing with media, expectations, fans, etc?

Will replacing Randolph make Jose Reyes pay attention on the base paths, or make him focus more at the plate? Will it make Carlos Delgado a better hitter? Will it make you more tolerant of .500 baseball, and make you hopeful that things will turn around? Will a new manager invigorate the bullpen? Or, inspire better play?

What’s more, how do the Mets keep fans from checking out emotionally? I suspect that most fans will keep tuning in and going to games – but if they begin to lose faith, what does that do for Citi Field, ad buys, ticket sales, etc?

These are all questions the Mets must be asking these days, and I look forward to seeing how they are answered.

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Comment by Frank Taveras
2008-05-16 12:45:29

Showing some effort is a good way to keep fans happy, even when they aren’t winning.

Losing with overpaid, underperforming superstars (the Met way) sucks; losing with young scrappy players who bust it, but lose, is ok, since there is hope for the future.

Comment by NY Cuban
2008-05-16 12:47:56

I agree.

Comment by rogasm
2008-05-16 13:25:52

Willie Randolph lost all his credibility with the Collapse of ‘07. Omar too.

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Comment by ravin108
2008-05-16 13:50:14

I’m going to back up Omar here. There are certainly things he should be accountable for, such as how bad an aging Carlos Delgado has been (give delgado credit for saving Wright and Reyes errors with his impressive scoops, but negate that for his lack of range and overall unathletic ability). For the most part, this team has more than enough talent to win a World Series.
I think this team has lost many games this year on poor usage of the bullpen. This bullpen is plenty talented enough. While Willie shows SO much confidence bringing struggling pitchers like Sosa and Heilman out, he takes his starters out when they have plenty of gas left. Taking Vargas out for Heilman is completely uexcusable. Vargas was still executing pitches and if you are going to take a starter out after a brilliant effort, bring in your BEST reliever to shut the door. Its clear that at this point in the season, Heilman is not our best reliever.
Heilman does deserve to be on the Mets roster. However, as almost every player goes through highs and lows in a season, Heilman needs to play in non-stress situations so he can refind his stuff.

 
Comment by pgiro
2008-05-16 20:38:42

I some times really get the impression that Willie is more concerned with testing a ball player or trying to force a struggling pitcher (Heilman) to come through in the clutch rather than actually trying to put the hammer down and actually WIN THE DAM BALL GAME!!! Case in point: Bringing in Heilman in a one-one tie after your tripple-A pitcher just pitched his heart out. Forgetting the fact that he should have left Vargas pitch another inning since he looked like he had plenty of gas left, If you are going to remove Vargas at least bring in your best pitcher (Smith) and close the dam thing out. But Noooooooooo, he chooses to bring in his WORST pitcher going through his worst professional stretch for what? to prove a point? to see what he’s made of? What? Will someone tell me. Unbelievable. You never saw Davy Johnson make such stupid decisions. It’s almost mind bogling. Go Willie!

 
 
 
Comment by jedimynd
2008-05-16 13:07:30

“Frankly, I believe a manager’s in-game involvement is overrated. He’s important, but he’s not as important as we want to think he is. The game is mostly won or lost by the players. ”

Matt,

Why do you continue to undermine the importance of a manager?

The players do determine the outcome, but part of a manager’s job is to put his players in a position to succeed, which Willie does a bad job of, whether it’s not putting your best line-up out or using the wrong pitcher in the wrong situation (everyone knew what was going to happen when Heilman was brought in the other day).

And yes, a team does reflect the manager’s personality. The Mets play with a lackadasical malaise, the kind that Willie always portrays in his post game interviews.

And I hate the always, “it’s not Willie’s personality to flip over tables”, but you could be fiery without being demonstrative.

i think Willie’s leash is not going past the Atlanta series. Another poor showing in the next 2 series and I think he’s done.

Comment by metsrule77
2008-05-16 13:25:39

How many people would rather have brought in Girardi last year? Oh wait the yanks are below .500 too so that wouldn’t have been a good thing for the Mets.

And a good point was made about teams being over .500 there are currently only 14 teams that are above .500 and the Mets are one of them. That makes 16 teams that are at or below .500. The parity in the league has definetely gotten better.

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Comment by dwright012
2008-05-16 13:29:05

It was that arguement that let Randloph keep his job last year….

The Mets blew it last year by not firing Willie… you do your job as poorly as he did.. you get fired.. plain and simple..

And now.. surprise surprise.. the product this year is the same…

Willie has to go.. should of hired Jarmillo when we had the chance.. then this would be real easy.

 
Comment by imissdykstra
2008-05-16 15:52:47

The Mets just need to fire Willie and pull Keith out of the broadcast booth.

Sure, we will miss his comments when we are watching the games. But Hernandez would not put up with any of this BS.

Keith obviously knows everything there is to know about this game and he has the no-nonsense personality needed to straighten out this embarassing team.

 
 
 
Comment by Tidewater
2008-05-16 13:27:11

I’m with you 100%

Comment by pgiro
2008-05-16 20:52:31

So am I!! Keith might not get these over paid pre-modonas to play better but he sure as hell would not put up with all this crap, players will be hitting the “pine” if they showed any lack of hustle or not having their head in the game. Keith’s the man.

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Comment by TexMex
2008-05-16 12:46:32

The Mets don’t look tight, they look disinterested.

And the Rays just won 6 in a row, Dodgers won like 8 in a row, so there have been more than 3 game willing streaks.

This team isn’t winning with Willie, so there is no harm in making a change, as is always the case, can’t get rid of the players, although getting rid of Delgado would be a dream.

I have said all season that this team is overrated.

Comment by blains2000
2008-05-16 15:36:47

I’m confused. Are the Mets overrated or is Willie the problem? Because if they are overrated then Willie is doing his job. And if Willie isn’t doing his job then they aren’t overrated.

 
 
Comment by statnut
2008-05-16 12:49:20

“Will replacing Randolph make Jose Reyes pay attention on the base paths, or make him focus more at the plate? Will it make Carlos Delgado a better hitter? ”

No but perhaps a new manager will be willing to shake things up a little more. A new manager might not be as willing to stick with a struggling player(such as Heilman). A manager has quite a bit of influence on a games outcome, from picking the right reliever or pinch hitter, strategy, etc.

At the very least, a big change like that could shake the team out of its apathy.

Comment by metsrule77
2008-05-16 13:33:55

How do you know Omar isn’t forcing Willie to play Delgado and who would you rather be playing first base? Marlon Anderson, Damien Easley? Yes everyone wants Nady but the Pirates aren’t stupid, they’re not going to give him up for a struggling Sosa and Heilman. the Mets have no one else to trade for him that would be acceptable to mets fans. What if we fire Willie and bring in someone else and the team plays worse? What do you do then? Give this team a chance until the all-star break, if there still at .500 than Omar will try and make some moves to save his job and if they are under .500 than fine fire willie and hope the new manager has enough time to change the attitude of the team but be prepared to wait until next year. My only concern is if Omar does make a trade at the deadline to save his job and mortgages the future to do so. Can you see another Kazmir trade brewing? Omar won’t care about trading away FMart for Nady if he’s not going to be around next year if they don’t win this year anyway.

 
 
Comment by therealsince86
2008-05-16 12:51:33

GREAT POST MATT!

Comment by rd
2008-05-16 13:02:06

Finally someone who can post as well as you, huh?

Comment by therealsince86
2008-05-16 13:45:30

Hell, to even be mentioned in the same sentence with at guy who makes a living with this site has me blushing. You should not have, thanks.

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Comment by gipper82475
2008-05-16 14:24:13

I agree, one of Matt’s best ever posts. Cogent, sober thoughtful, and reflective.

 
Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-05-16 14:28:49

lolllll great turn

 
 
 
 
Comment by reddog2669
2008-05-16 12:52:56

Did he really need to include John Maine in the ’soft’ list? This guy pitches his butt off every game. Klapish makes everything sound so dramatic. He had me convinced we were getting A-Rod.

Comment by theperfectgame
2008-05-16 12:57:48

Yeah, not exactly sure how John Maine is soft. Roberto Clemente was one of the nicest guys in the history of the game. Would you say he was soft, Bobby?

 
Comment by RPsJacket
2008-05-16 13:16:49

I have no idea where he is coming from with that comment. Maine has also pitched well in big spots, including the post season, games against division rivals, and last september. Not my definition of a soft player, anyway.

 
Comment by Necciai27
2008-05-16 13:55:32

Maine threw at a guy in his last start, something which only two other pitchers on the entire team (both of whom, Pedro and El Duque, are on the DL) seem to have the courage to do. He’s become a perfectionist, too this year. He’s showing some more emotion and is angry at himself when he doesn’t get the job done (and he usually does; he seems hard on himself). This guy really seems gutty. Why he’s on Klapisch’s “soft” list is totally beyond me.

 
Comment by blains2000
2008-05-16 15:39:40

I have not read the article yet but Klapish always writes about the Mets with his Yankee colored glasses on. They could win the WS and Klapish would write how somehow it was bad for the franchise or that they could have won “better”.

 
 
Comment by HOFMets57
2008-05-16 12:54:16

Great post, Matt. Primarily because everything you are wondering about i