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In a very insightful post to his blog for the New York Post, Joel Sherman points out that while Willie Randolph is not disliked in his own clubhouse, his players may be indifferent towards him.
According to Sherman, “There is not a wholehearted disrespect, but critically there is not respect either. Not hate, but not love. And this is bad for Randolph…The fans don’t like this team and the media has picked up on that plus the uncomfortable environment that exists in the Met clubhouse. And the Wilpons are very susceptible to fan and media choruses. That is why Willie is in big trouble.”
Sherman continues on to write about the Nationals and Devil Rays, as well as Johan Santana, who will have more than a baseball in his hands tonight.
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I don’t even agree that Willie has a warrior mentality. I don’t see it. Just because he trusts his guys, or thinks they have each other’s backs? That’s just blind faith at this point. Or because he doesn’t appear to panic when things reach critical mass like they have now? Let’s not confuse stoicism with a warrior mentality. A warrior mentality is more than just saying you want to win or taste the champagne, or saying don’t worry, let’s turn the page and we’ll go get ‘em tomorrow.
It’s protecting your guys on the field when they are arguing with an umpire. It’s about pulling guys from the game when they are under performing. It’s about creating a vision for your ball club and a strategy for success. It’s about calling team meetings every once in a while if necessary to give your players a chance to gripe and get things off their chest.
Wright mentioned earlier in the year that in 2006 they came to the ballpark expecting to win and last year they came hoping to win. That culture has obviously carried over into this year. And that is not the GM’s fault, who assembled the best team possible under the circumstances. What’s needed is a manager who can facilitate a culture that creates the proper chemistry for winning. Not just statements about winning. Willie is not that guy.
well put
although i dont even think a warriors mentality matters, i just dont see hunger. i dont see slitting your best friends throat to win. great, have fun, but i want BLOOD with these guys.
Wow, you would slit somebodies throat just to win, and your best friend, no less? Who is this, Elijah Dukes?
LOL!!!
The players aren’t merely indifferent towards Willie. They play as if they’re indifferent to the outcome of the games. With the notable exception of a few players (i.e. Wags, Wright, Maine, Alou), they don’t seem to care.
I don’t know if it’s all Willie’s fault or not, but he has to go. This team is in shambles. I don’t care about the fact that they’re “only” 2.5 games out.
Can anyone say that they’re satisfied with this team’s play over the past year? Relatively speaking, yeah, they’re right in the hunt. But objectively speaking, this team stinks.
It’s funny, but Alou seems to bring a spark to the team. He is a geezer and ready to break in half, but the guy can still hit. That is obvious. He also has a fire that guys like Beltran, Delgado, Castillo, etc. don’t seem to have. Taking the extra base, stealing home….he plays with passion and thats all I ask.
1B next year?
how ’bout next week?
I would love willie to sit delgado down for a week.
Not a chance. In all fairness, yesterday wasn’t Delgado’s fault. All you can do is hit it hard.
Passion is something that is sorely missing in this team. We had it in spades in 2006, but it disappeared last year. 2007’s team had a sense of entitlement. This year’s team has a sense of indifference.
This is what happens when you overpay a bunch of Mary’s. They get fat and sit back and wait.
My goodness, the Marlins have an entire team they pay 22 million and they play to win. The news here is that Beltran sucks, Delgado sucks, Castillo sucks - only when you consider what you pay for them. How can you compare these guys to the lowest paid counterparts and be happy? There is no value here.
Ladies and gentelman we now know what it feels like to be our crosstown rivals.
Not saying I’m going to stop watching or that I ever would. But this team has become very difficult to watch. The lack of clutch hitting. The fact that we constantly get beaten by D’Angelo Jimenez, Felipe Lopez, Carlos Ruiz, Eric Bruntlett, Ronny Cedeno, Jesus Flores (please let’s not kill Omar at the mention of his name. of course he kills us. every marginal major leaguer does).
I just don’t get it. It’s more annoying than watching Luis Castillo hit. It’s more painful than watching Reyes pop the first pitch up to shortstop. Jose, if you’re reading this…just because you play shortstop, doesn’t mean you have to hit it to the other team’s shortstop.
I need some pills.
Flores was a Rule 5 pick. The Mets couldn’t afford to keep a green 19 year old their roster since they were competing for a championship. The Nats could.
You can’t kill him for that. You can for a lot of other things, though.
I’ve never killed Omar for that move. Just that every time people talk about Omar’s shortcomings on this site, they mention Jesus Flores. Gimme a break. Look at his numbers vs. everyone else.
If you have a team full of people that beat up on you and you only….that would be a pretty bad team. How much you want to bet we make a play for Pat Burrell this offseason? That is when I stop cheering for this team. Hate that guy.
Pat Burrell has been a consisten run producer for a long time now. He can play on my team every single day.
Yea…as long as the NL adopts the DH rule. I don’t understand why nobody can see the fact that this guy sucks. He has made a career of hitting against the Mets. What does he do against every other team?
It is exactly that attitude, “we’re only x games back,” that led to the trading of Kazmir. It doesn’t matter if we’re only a few games back because this team doesn’t seem poised to take advantage of other teams’ struggles.
We traded Kazmir because we were only a few games back, ignoring the fact that we were a terribly flawed team.
Yes, we’re only a couple back now, but we are a flawed team. We shouldn’t be any games back with the way the rest of the division has played. Especially early on, the standings don’t mean much, so don’t look at how many games back we are, look at this flawed team and figure out how to get more out of it.
Oh I’d give anything for the in-game Willie Lover’s to come out of hiding today. I think finally after that Washington series they’ve gone into hiding for good and when Willie gets fired and the Mets start to play better baseball they’ll act like they called for his head all along. Where are you Willie Lovers? FIRE WILLIE!
Why are you making this an us against you argument?, We all want a better team, we just have different opinions on how it should be done..Although at this point I just want them to play better, no matter how it’s done.
Fire Wade Phillips. Actually, keep him. This way your team will suck again.
Wade is doing ok. We will keep him and yes I’m a diehard cowboy fan.
Dude, why r u PacmanJones anyway?
Did you see Wade Phillips’ had at Tom Coughlin’s charity golf tournament?
2007 NFC East Champions hat. Oh, and he was playing in Coughlin’s group. Pretty funny stuff.
Cowboys suck? Really? The Cowboys are BY FAR the class of the NFC. Giants made a spectacular run but it would be absurd for you to try to tell me the Giants are better then the Boys. And I am not a fan of either.
Metsblog fellas. They play baseball.
The class of the NFC let an inferior opponent (by your standards) walk into their building and beat them. This was during the Cowboys’ season, with a clear path to the Super Bowl. The class of the NFC. Time to start looking at Romo as either playing over his head in the regular season, or choking in the playoffs.
All I know is there was no skipping off the field in that playoff game. Hahaha.
Anyways, maybe sucking is a little harsh. But Wade Phillips is a joke. Just ask Buffalo and Denver. I hope the Cowboys keep him.
Tidewater,
You’re right. But us optimistic fans are looking forward to training camp haha.
Can we please take 2 of 3 this weekend then roll over Atlanta?
No need to hide. Wright & Castillo messed up. And there is no need for Willie to castrate them for your sick pleasure.
I didn’t see the Reyes play, but I read that he was just being aggresive, the way you want Reyes to be playing. And they would have had a tie game or a win if not for the best catch this season from Willie Harris, I still don’t know how he held onto the ball.
But, that’s what happens when you are losing, breaks go the other way. Trust me, the Mets will get their fair share before it’s over, karma is funny that way.
Willie is fine.
I’m not a Willie supporter so I don’t know if I’m one of the people you’re talking to. I don’t think there are very many actual Willie supporters. But if we need to take sides, I’m not on your side, I’m on the anti-hysteria side. Just so you know, when it’s obvious these threads are going to be full of ranting, I (and likely all the others who find it tiresome) stay away. Nobody’s in hiding, we’re just not interested in dealing with you all when you’re in your frothing-at-the-mouth state.
and if they turn it around without firing willie, what will you say?
Or they don’t turn it around by firing willie. or they fire willie and turn it around at a different point.
It is obvious that the manager of the New York Mets is not loved by his players; the problem here is that if they need someone to go to with a problem they go to Omar Minaya or Tony Bernazard. This was a problem last year and it showed its affect on the field. Francesca on the FAN , who knows nothing about the Mets (except that he hopes they lose) just made 2 statements : 1) Willie Randolph will not be fired by Mets mangement 2) Mets fans hate this team and Yankee fans love their team. Well I don’t know where he received the first part of information.; this fan does not hate this team—-I don’t like the way they are playing. I wish he would speak about things he knew something about.
At this point, who cares what he says? The Yankees are the best and the Mets stink. That’s what he would have told you on October 25, 1986. So why listen to him now
Well based on the reaction of many posters on this blog, it is very easy to see where one could think that Mets fans hate the team.
“Francesca on the FAN , who knows nothing about the Mets (except that he hopes