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		<title>By: metsftw</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171587</link>
		<dc:creator>metsftw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good for him. too bad righties destroy him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for him. too bad righties destroy him.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171578</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by intangibles you mean the inspiration, then I agree that it is hard to quantify. Which means you have no basis for saying in your previous post -- &quot;But what is factual is that these 2008 Mets aren’t inspired by Willie’s.&quot; That is NOT factual since it&#039;s something you can&#039;t know.  

I played many sports in high school. And I can honestly tell you that the head coach was never the main thing that motivated me. Hardly. It was usually individual accomplishment and my teammates first, as well as the sheer joy of engaging in a particular sport.. 

&lt;b&gt;Putting a few million $’s in my pocket would not have changed my approach to playing the game&lt;/b&gt;

Maybe not for you. But I bet most baseball players would tell you today that money is a big motivator.  I think it is a big  reason, for example, why Heilman is not motivated. Because what he can earn in his current role is drastically smaller than what he can make as even a crappy starter. And look at A-Rod. Maybe he is the extreme, but he has admitted that money has pretty much  been the biggest motivator in this life. 

It is precisely because many don&#039;t have huge bank accounts (relatively speaking) that money is a primary motivator for these baseball players. No one is calling these players robots. Being inspired by . money, personal goals, your family and teammates is not robotic at all., 

Of course there are cases where a certain player usually fresh up from the minors needs a lot of coaching and counseling along the way. In these cases, a mentor relationship often develops, such as  that between A-Rod and Pinella. But these are isolated instances applicable only to a few individuals on a team, and the relationship is just as likely to develop between a player and a bench, hitting or third base coach, instead of with the manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by intangibles you mean the inspiration, then I agree that it is hard to quantify. Which means you have no basis for saying in your previous post &#8212; &#8220;But what is factual is that these 2008 Mets aren’t inspired by Willie’s.&#8221; That is NOT factual since it&#8217;s something you can&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>I played many sports in high school. And I can honestly tell you that the head coach was never the main thing that motivated me. Hardly. It was usually individual accomplishment and my teammates first, as well as the sheer joy of engaging in a particular sport.. </p>
<p><b>Putting a few million $’s in my pocket would not have changed my approach to playing the game</b></p>
<p>Maybe not for you. But I bet most baseball players would tell you today that money is a big motivator.  I think it is a big  reason, for example, why Heilman is not motivated. Because what he can earn in his current role is drastically smaller than what he can make as even a crappy starter. And look at A-Rod. Maybe he is the extreme, but he has admitted that money has pretty much  been the biggest motivator in this life. </p>
<p>It is precisely because many don&#8217;t have huge bank accounts (relatively speaking) that money is a primary motivator for these baseball players. No one is calling these players robots. Being inspired by . money, personal goals, your family and teammates is not robotic at all., </p>
<p>Of course there are cases where a certain player usually fresh up from the minors needs a lot of coaching and counseling along the way. In these cases, a mentor relationship often develops, such as  that between A-Rod and Pinella. But these are isolated instances applicable only to a few individuals on a team, and the relationship is just as likely to develop between a player and a bench, hitting or third base coach, instead of with the manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny1986</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171506</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alright...just want to make sure you aren&#039;t a baseballreference.com/baseballcube.com poster who goes on stat sheets and never experienced the things which he claims to professes truth about.

You didn&#039;t understand my point on the intangible.  You are trying to quantify the influence of a manager on the team, specirfically the inspiration part, and that is something that is very difficult to quantify.  But you are speaking in absolutes by saying he has very little influence.  How do you really know that?     

Unless you are a player in MLB, I don&#039;t think you have a clue as to what you are talking about.  Nor do I. I&#039;m going on my experience as an athlete through HS and the NCAA, and my coach/manger had a hell of a lot of influence on how I and my teamates performed over the course of a season, and sometimes specifcally each day.  Putting a few million $&#039;s in my pocket would not have changed my approach to playing the game or the things I relied on all my life to prepare for a game, which included the direction and inspiration of the coach/manager.  

These guys are not phuking robots with huge bank accounts, man.  They are still playing a childs game that requires instruction, influence, and Inspiration.  ANd a manger that cannot inspire is a bad manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alright&#8230;just want to make sure you aren&#8217;t a baseballreference.com/baseballcube.com poster who goes on stat sheets and never experienced the things which he claims to professes truth about.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t understand my point on the intangible.  You are trying to quantify the influence of a manager on the team, specirfically the inspiration part, and that is something that is very difficult to quantify.  But you are speaking in absolutes by saying he has very little influence.  How do you really know that?     </p>
<p>Unless you are a player in MLB, I don&#8217;t think you have a clue as to what you are talking about.  Nor do I. I&#8217;m going on my experience as an athlete through HS and the NCAA, and my coach/manger had a hell of a lot of influence on how I and my teamates performed over the course of a season, and sometimes specifcally each day.  Putting a few million $&#8217;s in my pocket would not have changed my approach to playing the game or the things I relied on all my life to prepare for a game, which included the direction and inspiration of the coach/manager.  </p>
<p>These guys are not phuking robots with huge bank accounts, man.  They are still playing a childs game that requires instruction, influence, and Inspiration.  ANd a manger that cannot inspire is a bad manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Johnson is my favorite Mets manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Johnson is my favorite Mets manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny1986</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171494</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right.  I was just trying to see this guy&#039;s argument.  You just proved that it&#039;s not a valid argument.  I&#039;m wasting my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right.  I was just trying to see this guy&#8217;s argument.  You just proved that it&#8217;s not a valid argument.  I&#8217;m wasting my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny ....Yes, I was around in &#039;86. This was a wild bunch. I think the only type of manager who wouldn&#039;t have fit them is a strict disciplinarian -- someone like Hodges actually. But any manager considered a players&#039; manager (such as Francona) could have managed that team to a WS title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny &#8230;.Yes, I was around in &#8217;86. This was a wild bunch. I think the only type of manager who wouldn&#8217;t have fit them is a strict disciplinarian &#8212; someone like Hodges actually. But any manager considered a players&#8217; manager (such as Francona) could have managed that team to a WS title.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny1986</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171491</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you Brian Cashman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you Brian Cashman?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny1986</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171490</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious....Were you around in &#039;86?  Where you actually able to experience that season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious&#8230;.Were you around in &#8217;86?  Where you actually able to experience that season?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny1986</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171489</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry.  I misrepresented what you had said, insane.

I should have said...we won&#039;t have you writing post game novels about how he EXTREMELY disappoints you.

ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry.  I misrepresented what you had said, insane.</p>
<p>I should have said&#8230;we won&#8217;t have you writing post game novels about how he EXTREMELY disappoints you.</p>
<p>ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: InsaneMetsFan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/postgame-mets-7-yankees-4/#comment-171488</link>
		<dc:creator>InsaneMetsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darkstar, are you Santana&#039;s PR guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darkstar, are you Santana&#8217;s PR guy?</p>
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