Comments on: Read: Willie, Stubborn, Cpt. Queeg http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:41:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171336 MetLifer Sun, 18 May 2008 15:16:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171336 Why not let your best pitcher start against Jeter with 2 outs? I think at that point Santana was hovering around the 100 pitch mark. If Jeter made an out, Santana might have been brought out there in the 9th for a complete game. How great would that be? Why not let your best pitcher start against Jeter with 2 outs? I think at that point Santana was hovering around the 100 pitch mark. If Jeter made an out, Santana might have been brought out there in the 9th for a complete game. How great would that be?

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171301 MetLifer Sun, 18 May 2008 14:22:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171301 Agreed 1000%! If you hope the Mets lose for ANY reason, you are not a fan! Agreed 1000%! If you hope the Mets lose for ANY reason, you are not a fan!

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171299 MetLifer Sun, 18 May 2008 14:20:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171299 Oh wise one, and how do you foresee that? He was within one game of the WS 2 years ago. Some really unfortunate play last year. What has changed since then? Not his style. THE PLAYERS. Enough said! Oh wise one, and how do you foresee that? He was within one game of the WS 2 years ago. Some really unfortunate play last year. What has changed since then? Not his style. THE PLAYERS. Enough said!

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171295 MetLifer Sun, 18 May 2008 14:03:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171295 So basically, you are saying you are not a Mets fan. You are just a Willie hater. Win, lose or draw you hate Willie. You hope the team does bad so you can hate on Willie some more. Now I'm not crazy about some of Willie's moves but no one will agree 100% with any manager. It's not like great managers grow on trees. Some of you guys suggest ex Mets to manage, but they have no track record which is just a recipe for disaster. This is like Bobby V all over again. He was doing great for a couple of years, then some high priced veteran were brought in. They underperformed and brought his downfall (Vaugn, Alomar, Burnitz). Any time high priced veterans are brought in, more is expected. Now some of you want to bring Bobby V back? Is that going to turn things around? Likely not. The manager does not have that much power people! Ultimately, the players have to perform!!! The one thing that has going for the Mets is that they are relatively young and can turn things around. Firing Willie is not the answer. Reyes, Beltran, Wright are in a rut. They are young enough to turn it around. Delgado is quickly become a bust. As long as there is only one of those around, you should be OK. So basically, you are saying you are not a Mets fan. You are just a Willie hater. Win, lose or draw you hate Willie. You hope the team does bad so you can hate on Willie some more.

Now I’m not crazy about some of Willie’s moves but no one will agree 100% with any manager. It’s not like great managers grow on trees. Some of you guys suggest ex Mets to manage, but they have no track record which is just a recipe for disaster.

This is like Bobby V all over again. He was doing great for a couple of years, then some high priced veteran were brought in. They underperformed and brought his downfall (Vaugn, Alomar, Burnitz). Any time high priced veterans are brought in, more is expected. Now some of you want to bring Bobby V back? Is that going to turn things around? Likely not. The manager does not have that much power people! Ultimately, the players have to perform!!!

The one thing that has going for the Mets is that they are relatively young and can turn things around. Firing Willie is not the answer. Reyes, Beltran, Wright are in a rut. They are young enough to turn it around. Delgado is quickly become a bust. As long as there is only one of those around, you should be OK.

]]> By: repeal the DH http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171265 repeal the DH Sun, 18 May 2008 02:53:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171265 just how is "stubborn" defined when referring to a manager? i think mr. klapisch et al seem to define it as when the manager doesn't conform with their every assessment and analysis... typical of a know-it-all second guessing "journalist" who has all the woulda coulda shoulda answers after the fact... what if randolph implements all of klapisch's suggestions and the team continues to fail or does even worse? can we then demand his resignation from the bergen record? i'm not holding my breath lol... just how is “stubborn” defined when referring to a manager? i think mr. klapisch et al seem to define it as when the manager doesn’t conform with their every assessment and analysis… typical of a know-it-all second guessing “journalist” who has all the woulda coulda shoulda answers after the fact… what if randolph implements all of klapisch’s suggestions and the team continues to fail or does even worse? can we then demand his resignation from the bergen record? i’m not holding my breath lol…

]]> By: Constnza81V2.0 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171254 Constnza81V2.0 Sat, 17 May 2008 23:49:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171254 Agreed 100%. Anyone rooting for this team to lose is out of their minds. If this is a case of this team underachieving and tuning Willie it out, it will play itself out on its natural course. I would just as rather not watch this team for a few weeks because outside of a game here and there, they bore me, then watch and adamently hope they lose to speed up the inevitable. Agreed 100%. Anyone rooting for this team to lose is out of their minds. If this is a case of this team underachieving and tuning Willie it out, it will play itself out on its natural course. I would just as rather not watch this team for a few weeks because outside of a game here and there, they bore me, then watch and adamently hope they lose to speed up the inevitable.

]]> By: Constnza81V2.0 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171253 Constnza81V2.0 Sat, 17 May 2008 23:47:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171253 I'll be the first to admit that a few more weeks of .500 ball I would prefer to see change for change's sake. I don't think a "fiery" person needs to be brought in, but a different one, to try and reach these players. If it can't happen, then we'll know it's the way the team that was assembled that was the problem, not just the guy leading them. How is that undercutting anything. It's a part of life. I don't understand what's so "disgusting" about anything. I’ll be the first to admit that a few more weeks of .500 ball I would prefer to see change for change’s sake. I don’t think a “fiery” person needs to be brought in, but a different one, to try and reach these players. If it can’t happen, then we’ll know it’s the way the team that was assembled that was the problem, not just the guy leading them.

How is that undercutting anything. It’s a part of life. I don’t understand what’s so “disgusting” about anything.

]]> By: cyclone http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171252 cyclone Sat, 17 May 2008 23:45:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171252 Well, not going to pretend I know what goes on behind the scenes of a baseball team and who gets fired once the manager goes (although I highly doubt the administrative staff gets fired once Willie gets fired...that's a reach.) All I will say after reading some of these posts hoping the Mets lose games so Willie can get fired...I don't know how you guys do it. I can't stand Willie as much as the next guy, but I can not root for the Mets to keep losing games. I just can't. I would hope that this situation takes its natural course and Willie is gone soon, but not at the expense of the team. Well, not going to pretend I know what goes on behind the scenes of a baseball team and who gets fired once the manager goes (although I highly doubt the administrative staff gets fired once Willie gets fired…that’s a reach.)

All I will say after reading some of these posts hoping the Mets lose games so Willie can get fired…I don’t know how you guys do it. I can’t stand Willie as much as the next guy, but I can not root for the Mets to keep losing games. I just can’t. I would hope that this situation takes its natural course and Willie is gone soon, but not at the expense of the team.

]]> By: The Glider http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171242 The Glider Sat, 17 May 2008 22:26:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171242 Is it really? Could you please tell me what it mean in concrete terms? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I really don't know what that, in practical terms, means. But it sounds good. Is it really? Could you please tell me what it mean in concrete terms? I’m not trying to be a jerk, I really don’t know what that, in practical terms, means.

But it sounds good.

]]> By: The Glider http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queeg/#comment-171241 The Glider Sat, 17 May 2008 22:22:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/17/read-willie-stubborn-cpt-queed/#comment-171241 You just undercut your own argument. Thank you. You just undercut your own argument. Thank you.

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