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In the fourth inning of last night’s game, Carlos Delgado hit a home run off the bottom of the foul poll in the left-field corner of Yankee Stadium, which was reversed by the home plate umpire following a pow-wow at mid field.
It was clearly a home run.
The third base ump, who was closest to the play, actually called it correctly at first, yet the home plate ump, who was furthest from the play, called it foul.
In a post to his blog for the New York Post, Bart Hubbach wonders, “How in the world does Randolph not get himself ejected in this situation,” yet Jerry Manuel, his bench coach, did.
Randolph, speaking to reporters last night, 
when asked if getting ejected would make fans happy, said:
“Nah, I don’t believe in doing something silly like that just to appease the fans. If you’ve got a reason to protect your players and do that you go do it. What’s that gonna do? Getting thrown out of the game? They’ll be happy about that? Then what happens? I’m the leader of this club and I don’t believe about moaning about calls. It was obvious he blew the call, so what are you gonna do. You keep your composure and play the game…
“That’s what bench coaches do…The guy came over and told me to shut up. So, Jerry took exception to that, and I did too. He was looking to run some one. He was looking in the dugout. I mean, if you blow a call like that, stay in the game. He was looking to run some one and Jerry took the bait.”
…i get the criticism, but i’m with willie on this, in that this is not the spot to get thrown out…it accomplishes nothing, especially, if like most people on the left-side of the building, you didn’t get a good look at the play…personally, if a manager is going to get tossed, it should be if a) the ump is repeatedly making the same bad call over and over, or b) you need to defend your player, who is visibly upset about the blown call…in this case, none of the above apply…the fans should be the least of willie’s worry right now…
Following the game, the home plate umpire repeatedly admitted to having ‘F’d up’ the call, as he put it, after having a chance to watch it on replay.
Ryan Church, on the call, talking to reporters, said:
“It hit the black part of the pole…It was a home run…Eh, we still put up 11 (smile).”
…excellent response…that’s the right attitude…
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If he ‘f-ed’ up the call and knew he might have f-ed it up, then why was he looking to toss someone? I don’t get these umps sometimes.
he probably saw the replay AFTER the game was over…
it does say he was admitting to f’ing up AFTER the game
Mike Reilly and Bob Davidson, deserve to be fired.
First, mike for allowing an umpire further than him rule on the play. Second, his hand went up right away. How do you go from be sure it was a homerun to being overruled.
Davidson, for thinking his fat arse saw it go foul. If your not sure, why rule after a call was made? The crew last night was the biggest bunch of meatballs I have ever seen.
That other dumb wanna be though guy up at first base called it foul. yet the dope couldn’t even talk with all of that crap in his mouth.
Come on shouldn’t these bafoons have to pay for delagdo losing stats?
Reilly’s body language indicated he thought he may have been wrong. You can’t fire every umpire after every missed call.
But what if you could? Wouldn’t that make the life of an umpire interesting?
Haha, eventually–after running out of umps–you’d have no choice but to grab random people off the street before games to ump the game. Or better yet, a lottery, where 4 lucky fans (ages 10 and older) get to be the umps for the games.
Matt, I am “shocked” to hear that you are with Willie on this. You always seem to be with Willie, don’t you have your own views? If we had lost that game by 1 or 2 runs would you still be with Willie? We went on to pound them, so, it didnt really matter much. The case is Willie did NOT stand up for his players, himself or the fans. That was his chance to show some of the emotion that he cliams he has and he did not do it. He allowed his bench coach to take the bullet instead. Is that the act of a good leader? How many times have we seem Willie stand up for a player or bad call and get rung up? Now, I am not a Willie basher, per say. I would like nothing more than to see Willie bring a WS to the METS, but. let’s all be honest here. Willie is the man in charge and he calls tha shots. As the Mets go Willie goes. Lets go into Atlanta and kick Glavine out of the game with a 7 run first and roll over the Braves. LETS GO METS !!!
oh please. willie should put on a show so the fans get off his back, is that it? who bother? you guys aren’t going to climb off his back anyway until the mets have a 15 game lead, and you will climb right back on unless the mets win the world series.
i know mets fans who still blame willie for the end of 2006, when that was one of the best seasons in mets history.
the team has the fourth best record in the NL, and all we hear is that the manager should be fired. mainly because he doesn’t show emotion.
it is so ridiculous on so many levels.
I think Willie should have argued longer and threw a fit here. If you know the call is blown, you need to argue it more. You never know, they could have reversed the call again and actually gotten it right. Let’s face it. None of the umps were sure the call was right even after reversing it. I not for Willie pulling a Bobby Cox every week, but that call warranted blowing a gasket.
dude, come on, they weren’t gonna reverse it back, its rare enough for it to be reversed once…they have too big of egos to call it back again…if you watch the replay, the home plate ump ran right in and said foul, so its not him that was confused, it was the 3rd base ump
Arguing it more wouldn’t have done any good
If there was ever a situation to argue more that was one. That was a totally blown call and the umps were never sure they had the call right. It could not have hurt for Willie to be more vociferous and demand for the umps to reconvene again especially when the guy in the LF stands is pointing to the spot where the ball with black paint on it hit!
Are you actually suggesting that the umpires should take fan’s reactions into consideration when making a call? You can’t be serious! yes, the call was missed, but it’s part of the game and happens sometimes. It was clear that the umps lost the ball when it went into the corner so they gave it their best guess. They’re not trying to blow the call on purpose. Having them reconvene again wouldn’t do anything but piss them off and get more calls to go against the Mets. It’s part of the game, deal with it…
It’s obvious that baseball is behind the other sports in terms of using instant replay. Hockey uses it on questionable scoring plays. Basketball uses it to get the clock right. Football uses it (in my opinion too much) on important plays as well. There is an obvious need to use instant replay to review plays. Granted, it would slow the game down a little, but if you use it on scoring plays only, it shouldn’t be that big of a time factor. As soon as the play happens, the official scorer should have the replay up and running and by the time the manager comes out to argue there’s already going to be a decision coming from the booth. The world evolves, there’s no reason why the game shouldn’t evolve with it…
Agreed, I’m a big proponent of instant replay. They might extend it to more than just scoring plays though, allowing each manager one challenge on non-scoring plays (he gets to keep the challenge if the call is overturned).
For those complaining the game would be too long, only allow the batter to step out once per AB (at the ump’s discretion, ie. he hits himself by a foul ball). And put a time limit on the pitcher’s delivery.
zer09:
You would have been crying like a girl on here this morning if that call cost us the game. There is a chance, albeit slight, that if Willie would have protested more strongly, the umps may have tried to get the call right. Davidson may have appeared to be adamant, but he could not have been that sure. As far as the umps getting ticked off and having more calls go agst the Mets, that’s just lame.
There is a time to argue a call and this case was it.
Willie argued that call as much as he could. Blowing his lid wouldn’t get him any farther than he already was. If that call costs us the game, not just me, but everyone would be up here crying about it - but it wouldn’t be directed towards Willie - it would be directed towards the umps. There was nothing else that could be done. If you watched the game, you would have known.
The home plate umpire Davidson was pretty adamant about the ball being foul when Reilly asked for help. I severely doubt they would have reversed the call with any amount of arguing.
Not a chance
The only time arguing a call does any good is if the manager pleads his case, and gets the umpires to get together and reverse the call. In this case, the umpires already got together and reversed the initial call. There’s no way it gets reversed again, and in no way does arguing and getting tossed help the outcome of the game. If Delgado had a better view and was very upset, then I would agree with Willie getting tossed for his players’ sake. That was not the case.
Willie should have gotten thrown out for sure. The problem was not that the umpires blew an obvious call…but that they had the call the right way first, and then (as everyone is saying how rare it is for them to reverse a call) actually exhibit that rare instance of overturning a call but in that rare event change it the WRONG way. Valentine would have been ejected arguing for sure!
I only have one request from Metsblog readers today. Can we just enjoy these two wins, and not get all riled up about ejections, home run celebrations, or anything else that in general Mike Francesa would bring up? Take a deep breath, smile and say “we just spanked the Yankees in their ballpark.” Let’s have 24 hours of happiness for once this season. As Mets fans, we certainly deserve it.
Here, Here.
I hate Willie as much as the next guy, but I agree whole heartedly.
We might be back here Tuesday night dealing with a doubleheader sweet from the Braves, so lets enjoy this while we can.
Fire Willie?
Not only that, but this is clearly another example of Delgado’s ineffectiveness. We needed that home run and regardless of the umpire circus he didn’t deliver. That pitiful RBI single 10-pitch at-bat … I’m sorry, but that was NOT worth 3 points. Fire Willy, cut Delgado loose, fire Matt, tear down Shae, call off the rest of the season, get me a better job with a salary I deserve, make my ex-wife admit that leaving me was a mistake, lower the price of gasoline, etc.
I dont get it. Why bring the ex into this. Shouldn’t you have said that (female celebrity of your choice) admits her mistake and declares her undying love for you? Or am I just nitpicking here?