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Links: Face Off, Minutaie, Pay and Replay
By Matthew Cerrone - May 20, 2008 7:37 am

Is Tom Glavine taking a page out of Face Off, wonders Metstradamus.

In a post to Mets Walk-Offs and Other Minutiae, read about random things he learned while trying to kill time in his hotel room, such as, “If we’re gonna talk Mets killers, let’s not just talk Jeter and Chipper.  Let’s talk Dave Kingman.”

According to Josh Curtis in the New York Observer, the Yankees and Mets do not get what they pay for.

Lastly, though he ‘hates to admit it,’ Bill Chuck at Dugout Central thinks it is time for instant replay in baseball.

the one argument i can’t stand is the traditionalists one…the difference between 40 years ago and today is that back then, had a play like Sunday’s foul-ball home run occurred, only one camera with one angle would have captured it…it would have come and gone…today, 20 cameras from 20 angles in 20 countries will likely see it, and every one will have an opinion, which will embarrass the umpires and prolong the controversial discussion leading to all sorts of rulings and appeals and so on…they are two different eras, which, like it or not, require two different ways of looking at things

26 Responses to “Links: Face Off, Minutaie, Pay and Replay”

  1. Dennis A says:

    No instant replay ever! How hard is that to understand?

  2. I’m a traditionalist, but the writing is on the wall.

    I wouldn’t be to averse to a severely limited instant replay kind of thing, ie, the only plays that can be reviewed are foul balls and homeruns…..absolutely no tag plays or leaving the base early stuff.

  3. Prismo says:

    It’s time for instant replay in baseball.

    But I think there should be a challenge system similar to in the NFL. If umpires can check instant replays at their own discretion, one of two (or both) things will happen:
    1. They’ll use it far too often, slowing the game down considerable.
    2. There will still be instances when they don’t use replay on close plays, and fans will scrutinize the umpires even more.

    To fix that, let the managers have one or two “challenges” per game. And not balls and strikes! Some stipulations should apply.

    This wouldn’t slow the game down, and fans can only blame the managers, not the umps.

    • MudvilleNine says:

      Never happen. No way to penalize a wrong challenge. Even the word itself, no way would the umpires ever let managers “challenge” them. It has to be like the NHL where an official would review a questionable homerun.

  4. gomets6091 says:

    I’m a traditionalist, I hate the DH, interleague play, excessive use of relief pitchers, and the wild card. But I have no problem with instant replay, and wish they would adopt it. The way I look at it is that if they had instant replay back in 1876 when the National League was formed, don’t you think they would have used it? At the time, hiring neutral third parties to be umpires was the best way to ensure that a fair and accurate game was called, but we are so far beyond that now.

    The other things, DH, interleague, etc., those were all options for the original founders of the league, but they didn’t use them. That’s why they are abominations on the sport of baseball.

    I don’t want to see instant replay on every play, and certainly not on balls and strikes, but I would like to see it, maybe with a challenge system like Prismo mentioned. Maybe give them 2 challenges, and if they use both and are successful both times, they are awarded a third challenge or something like that.

    • theperfectgame says:

      I like the Wild Card. And unless you add two teams and go to 4 divisions per league or revert back to 2 divisions per league, it’s a necessity. Unless you give the best record in each league a first round bye. But I don’t think the Wild Card hurts the integrity of the playoffs. Baseball is still the most exclusive postseason in any major sport. It also keeps things interesting if there’s a team running away with a division (read: it keeps people coming to games for as long as po$$ible).

      • gomets6091 says:

        I would prefer them go back to 2 divisions. The problem I have with the wild card is that for whatever reason, it seems fairly common for the wild card to come into the playoffs hot, maybe because they were involved in a race for the spot instead of cruising to a division title, and then go on and win it all. The Marlins (both times) and the Angels weren’t even the best teams in their small divisions (5 and 4 teams respectively) during the season, yet won the World Series. It annoys me. If they’re gonna use wild cards, they should just scrap the divisional format entirely and just take the 4 best teams in the league: the 83 win Cardinals were the 5th best team in the NL in 2006.

  5. Dennis A says:

    I may give up baseball if replay is adopted.

  6. Peter says:

    Replay isn’t needed yet, it opens the flood gates to really changing the game badly.

    I think there are easily two options which are better:

    1 – OF umpire. The game is rich enough, add a guy in the outfield, two even, for the far corners.

    2 – Technology. Weave a reactive filament into the threads of the ball and put sensors on the foul poles.

    Either of those two keep the basic integrity of the core of the game and address the issue without adding replay.

    • Colton says:

      That’s the kind of forward thinking that I can get behind

    • theperfectgame says:

      And instead of “reactive filaments”, small market teams (who would find them unaffordable) could simply repaint the foul poles before each game. If the ball has paint on it, HOMERUN!! Yay!!!!

      • hbean says:

        That didnt work on sunday.

        • theperfectgame says:

          It would have if the foul pole had been freshly painted. And anyway, the Yankees are not a small market team and would thus be able to afford the filament-sensor system and not have to rely on the more primitive wet paint system. Also, I was being ridiculously sarcastic.

    • MudvilleNine says:

      Filaments and sensors wouldnt work for all situations and they use two outfield umps in the playoffs and that Maier incident still occured.

  7. theperfectgame says:

    The only way I see instant replay working in MLB is if all replays are “booth initiated”, the way the NFL handles the last 2 minutes of each half. They would also have to follow the “indisputable evidence” rule in order to overturn a call. There are many close plays that could reasonably go either way.

  8. dulcetpine says:

    It would take no longer than five minutes to review a call that could be pivotal in the game. That is five mintues in a three hour span, it is a drop in the bucket in total time is concerned, therefore i cannot see how extending the game is a concern.

    I’d rather the correct call be made. What would have happened if the mets lost by two runs the other day? We would be flipping out! It is most important to get the call right than to extend the game by five mintues.

    Put this in perspective, you could show an instant replay for fifteen mintues for each ball and strike and the inning would still move faster than a Steve Trachsel pitched game…

  9. theperfectgame says:

    I’ve got it.

    How about each player has his own personal umpire. The catch? The player’s and unpire’s legs are tethered together for the whole game (a la 3-legged race). If there’s a disputed call, the two umpires involve have a hockey style fight. Whoever goes down first loses the call. There’ll be an umpire close to every play and it will cut down on ump obesity (plus it’ll make for some dynamite web gems).

    Problem solved. You’re welcome, Bud Selig.

    • Great idea….every player could have their own little midget, like Pedro used to have.

      It would really draw kids back into baseball too.

  10. metsno1fan says:

    I am for replays, but only with homeruns. It is the only play that results in a run everytime and a blown call can result in a 4 run swing.

    A simple replay in the booth with an MLB official can tell within 30 seconds if its a homerun or not. They can even add a few cameras pointed right at the fence and pole to make it even easier to tell.

    As for other plays, it would just be too time consuming to stop the game and look at every close play. Plus if a ruling in the field is overturned, it may be difficult to place the runners at the right bases. Just look at the play in Atlanta when Willie got the ball that Reyes hit ruled a trap. It took about 15 minutes for the umpires to decide where to put the runners.

    As for the foul pole sensors, how long do you thing would it take for a fan sitting next to the pole to bring a baseball from home and knock it against the pole to trip the sensors?

  11. Dirtysanchez says:

    Face Off Two: Your Uniform is Ugly

    lol hillarious

  12. dcmetsfan says:

    That Curtis article would be useful if he was talking about fantasy baseball, but it made little sense in alalyzing two clubs with almost limitless financial resources. He also cherry picks his data, ie. pointing out that Carlos Beltran is on pace for only 12 homers – well, he probably will hit a few more than that, and he glosses over his previous two years’ performance.

    Not everything he said was completely wrong, but I think his overall analyis is pretty poor.