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According to the Daily News, Pedro Martinez is contemplating retirement, ‘as he battles back from another injury with thoughts of his ailing father weighing on his mind.’
By the way, In 606 innings pitched after the All-Star Game, Johan Santana has a 2.79 ERA.
…in other words, i am excited about the prospect of getting a healthy and effective martinez coupled to a second-half santana for the final few months of the season…
As noted last night, Martinez tossed 4.1 innings against St. Louis Cardinals minor leaguers in an extended spring training game in St. Lucie yesterday.
Martinez will throw a simulated game under the watchful eye of Rick Peterson in Atlanta on Wednesday.
According to Ted Berg, at SNY.tv, Martinez threw 77 pitches, 54 of them strikes, while striking out five batters and topping out at 90 on the radar gun.
Family first. If indeed he does retire this season, I’m hoping he can go out with a flourish, and put an exclamation point on a hall of fame career.
I agree. Pedro has had a brilliant career. Hopefully Petey can go out on top if he does decide this is it.
Agreed, family definitely comes first. That said, it will be great to get Pedro back. While the Mets are 13-4 in the games started this season by Johan Santana or John Maine, they are 9-15 in starts by any of their other starting pitchers. A healthy Pedro along with more consistent hitting with RISP will go a long way towards helping us move beyond the up and down nature of mediocrity.
but wait is he contemplating retirement AFTER this season, or right now, as opposed to rehabbing and returning to the mets?
After the season. He’s going to take home every bit of that 2008 salary! (And honor his contract)
He misses the mango tree.
C’mon Pedro!
Ugh…I understand that you think you are making reference to Pedro’s comments from spring training, but what he actually said was that he has a bit of Mangu…a popular Dominican dish made from eggs and other stuff (I am not so sure exactly what it is, but it definitely isn’t mango)…His comments just got misinterpreted, that’s all.
I think he is refering to the comment he made some time ago, while remeniscing about his life, saying that 15 years ago he was just a kid sitting under a mango tree with 50 cents in his pocket for the bus.
oh okay, i thought that, like many others, he misinterpreted petey’s comments from spring training about PEDs.
Anyone think he may pitch Saturday in Colorado? Right now they don’t have anyone to start that game and it would be his day to pitch.
Saturday might be a little bit aggressive. I know last year he got the start in Cincy a few days after the bullpen session in Atlanta, but I don’t think that will happen again. First off, pitching Saturday would put him in Colorado, and thats not really a great environment for a recovering pitcher. The thin air will tax his body at a faster rate, a problem considering his stamina wasn’t what it once was. In addition, you lose bit on the breaking ball, which Pedro will certainly rely on more. I think the best bet would be to let him get a rehab start, and then come back and pitch at Shea against the Marlins the following week.
Yeah, that’s probably what will happen. Who will pitch Saturday though? Vargas on 3 days rest? Will they call someone else up, and if so, who will they send down?
they would send Vargas down for Figuerroa or Bostick
I think if we send Vargas down he has to go through waivers again…
Is this right?
yea i think so
thats why i think their move is going to be to demote someone with options(pagan i think) and move vargas to the pen
Pagan is on the DL.
your right.
I am sure Vargas will just start on 3 days rest. I don’t think starting a guy who you have little invested in and who is not long for the rotation anyway on 3 days rest warrants a roster move.
Yea. I don’t think one start requires a roster move anyway. I would have to think Vargas on short rest.
Matt,
That opening line is a bit misleading. The way you have it written implies that Pedro is considering retiring NOW, when the article implies that he’s contemplating retiring at the end of the 2008 season.
Pedro, come back and stay healthy. Help us deep into the season and go out on top. Come back soon,
Anytime a person reaches a certain point in his/her career that allows the notion of retirement…that person will always consider retirement. I don’t read into it any more than just a consideration of retirement by a person who can retire. I’m two years away from becoming eligible to retire and honestly I think about it every day. Will I retire? I don’t know. But I will consider it every day…but it doesn’t mean I will.
agree, I’m 30 years away from retirement and also consider retiring everyday…
hopefully we can send petey off with a championship
I really hope he doesn’t retire. I’d like to see him in Citi field for a full year.
Then we better sign him to a 6 year contract, so we can get a month out of him every year and it will total a full year haha.
Kidding. I think Pedro has been instrumental to this team’s turning the corner the past few years. Would love to see him back for one more year after this. Maybe 2.
I love Pedro but to me that is the last thing I want to see is Omar relying on an injury prone pitcher for the rotation again. I think we need to either resign Perez or bring in a Garland/Lowe type and also sign another innings eater.
Santana, Maine, Garland, Lowe/Perez, Pelfrey.
Again, I hope Pedro does well but I do not think our minors are deep enough to have the Pedro situation all over again.
Hey maybe Vargas steps up and Pelfrey continues to develop. Then you have money to go get CC. That would work too.
Any good luck Pedro.
I dont know about landing CC here but i agree that i think omar should think younger come next year. We are/have witnessed the troubles of relying on aging/old players. When they are here its great but for the months that they are out and leave their club playing hopscotch to find a replacement is not that great(see alou). I love pedro and im glad for everything he has done for this franchise(not only pitching but transforming the image of this club). I definatly see him retiring after 08 so hopefully omar wont be left to make a decision on bringing him back.
I hope Pedro is not the type to just hold on and become a #5 then into the bullpen before finally being released. I don’t think he is that type.
I think at most the only way we could bring him back is as the #5 with Pelfrey ready. The only way that happens is if Perez or another quality arm is brought in and Vargas develops. Even then that would mean that Pelfrey has been a bust and I hope that is not the case.
Yea the mets have invested alot in pelf i hope(dont think) he will be a bust.
I remember seeing a segment on espn last year compairing pedro and randy johnson. They said they were the type of player that wants to be remembered a certian way and the would want to come back and prove they are the player everyone remembers. They said since johnson(back injury) and pedro(arm) were lost for the 07 season they would come back in 08 and deliver to leave on a high note. Basically retire on a high note.
Pelf has seemed to turn a corner a bit. He definitely looks much better than the guy who started last year 0-8. I don’t ever remember him stringing together two good starts (much less two strong starts as he has done). Hopefully he can sustain his success against a Braves team which he has performed relatively well against.
Yes his last outing was very inspiring. This will be another good test for young pelf.
That’s why I wanted the team to go after Livan. We would’ve never seen Figgy or Vargas. We’d have Santana, Perez, Maine, Livan and Pelf. And when Pedro was good Pelf in New Orleans. I’m surprised the team didn’t have a better plan for both El Duque and Pedro being out at the same time.
Loll yea im sure they didnt expect pedro and duque to be out at the same time. Like people said hindsight is always 20/20. Livan was a fall back option and at the time the rotation was stuffed. They had no need for him and i doubt livan would sign a contract to be a long man. Of course with the situation now it would have been nice to have him around but no way to penalize the mets for not grabbing him.
So nice to talk baseball again….
I could not agree with you more, if Pedro comes back and is solid, sending out Santana, maine, perez, pedro, and pelf every 5th day is formidable.
However, if this was just the first of a series of freak injuries I think Omar left us one arm short. I like Pelf as a 5th starter, but we seem to have a 1, 2 and 3 and a whole slew of 5’s. It is difficult to get on a roll this way.
Lets hope he comes back strong, they would be capable of going on a nice roll. However, next year is an issue. We could need two more starters to replace pedro and perez, as well as a LF and 1B.
Get to work, Omar!
Oh yeah, and a closer!
I wanted Livan too but that was under the assumption that Elduque would move over for his brother to the pen. There was no indication that he wanted to do that. Thus we would have had 6 staters. Hindsight really works when there are injuries for sure.
I hear the hindsight argument but come on, it was almost guaranteed these guys were both going down? Someone should’ve thought that it might happen at the same time. I know having 6 starters is impossible so I digress.
Pedro WHO!!??
Isn’t it too much to ask Pedro to pitch Saturday? Do you really think he’s ready?
If he is hitting 90 on the gun he should be. I would think all he needs to do is go 5 innings minimum and it seems like he just did that against the minor leaguers.
They are going to be REALLY cautious with him. I think they are as worried about the hamstring as arm strength.
yea i would say the are going to have a pc limit on him for sure…no need to blow him out..hammys are tricky man you never know when they are really gone.
AI really hated reading some readers’ comments on the Daily News website talking about how Pedro is using his dying father as an excuse to just collect his money. Are you serious? The man would not have gone through all the rehab/surgery he did to collect his check. I hope he performs well and his family deals with his ailing father well.
I love Pedro. I truly hope he comes back by the beginning of June and pitches successfully for the rest of the season. I want that for him and for the Mets. I look at Pedro’s numbers from the late 90’s and early 00’s and they are astonishing considering all the juiced hitters he was facing in the American League. If he had hit his prime ten years earlier or ten years later, his numbers might even be more outstanding then they already are.
i wish his family well in their troubling time, but i really hope pedro does not retire ….
i mean we only got 1 year of service from the guy …
come on at least sir pedro as our new pitching coach ……..
hopefully pedro goes out with another world series ring :)
Reyes
Castillo
Wright
Beltran
Church
Alou
Delgado
Schneider
Maine
let’s go mets
Im with ya zen. LGM
Man, I hope they light up Tommy G today and get Game 1, take the pressure off Vargas.
Hate to nitpick, but given we got a lefty in game 1, it would have made more sense to give Castillo and Schneider the day game off in favor of Castro and Easley.
We’re also likely to have Alou missing in game 2 so why bunch all the bench players in the same game and put the pressure on a fill-in starter to keep us close?
Is the lineup posted? I agree – I fully expected to see Castro in there for the day game, and probably Easley at 2B as well.
i posted the actual line-up. it’s from yahoo sports.
let’s not forget that glavine is actually better against righties. not to mention that the evening pitcher hasn’t gone more than 3 innings this year. he’ll be gone by the 5th, if that.
Can’t say I’m familiar with Schneider’s lifetime numbers against Glavine either, nor am I sure Maine likes working with Castro.
Whatever – get it done.
castillo hits .384 in 73 ab’s against glavine. schneider .270 in 37 ab’s
castro and easley are 1-4 and 1-3 respectively.
Thanks! I’ll go with Willie on this one then.
Don’t ever apologize for talking about baseball on this site…
Is the lineup above accurate, I am not sure??
Pedro is selfish! Think about me Pedro!!! Think about the Mets fans!!!
(Yes, that was sarcasm)
i hope the organization explores a sweetheart clemens-like deal with pedro, assuming it comes at reduced dollars.
i can’t imagine he would pitch anywhere else next year. it’s us or retirement.
You don’t think he’d go back to Boston? Not sure they will have room for him, but you can bet he’d consider them if they came calling.
I think it would depend on how he finishes the year and what condition he is in. I doubt boston would need him but im sure alot of other clubs would but i would have to say i think pedro’s tenure on the mets is at an end though…the sprinklers….good times
Well he can’t go back to the Expos.
no he sure cant…
I hope Pedro comes back at least for another year. He was one of the players that helped turn the team around. We have only gotten a taste of his success since he signed that four year deal, it would be nice to get one last injury free season from him. But, family does come first. I also hope the Mets(or Pedro) dont rush him back. He made the Marlins look like a first place team in his first start, er, nevemind. Lets go Mets!!!!!!!
At this point in his career, a injury free season is not gonna happen.
Thats what i dont get, seems like the pitchers of my youth, late 70’s early 80’s always lasted longer. Now with pitch counts and going every 5th day you would think they could all pitch effectively into their 40’s. Oh where have you gone Gaylord Perry.
I’m confused by this. Randy Johnson? Roger Clemens even minue the roids? Tom Glavine? Greg Maddux? John Smoltz? Jamie Moyer? They are not in their 40s?
Pedro is not a big man. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone of his physical stature, of any era, to pitch until 40.
Nice point, but we can make lists all day going back and forth. Those guys also only pitched between 31-34 starts a year. You dont see guys like Ryan, Tanana, Niekro and them pitching 35-38 games a year for 20 years anymore. I do believe your correct with the stature thing. I didnt think about that.
I would offer him a reduced price 1 year or something like that…..I also think they should hold off on rushing him back….better safe than sorry…..Have him start at home…..
when can we have a no-no!?!?! I seriously thought when pedro signed with the Mets, we were going to get one. I just want one… just one
trust me bro…WE ALL WANT IT. It would be a nice note to close the curtian at shea…along with a WS ring. I guess the expectations would fall on santana to throw one. but then again we got close with pelf who knows….congrats to lester
Pedro should retire after this season, because all the injuries are putting a serious dent in his legacy. He needs to go out on top, so hopefully this will be his last injury and he can dominate for 4 months, leading us into the playoffs and hopefully a World Series.
Let’s hear a hefty “LETS GO METS!!!”
pedro has had a great career, unfortunately he wasa waste of mets money.