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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Mets Shopping Aaron Heilman</title>
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		<title>By: West Milly</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-185887</link>
		<dc:creator>West Milly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sending him down with the purpose of changing him into a starter would be best.  Even if the Mets have no plans to use him as a starter, wouldn&#039;t  the highest resale value come with him as a starter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sending him down with the purpose of changing him into a starter would be best.  Even if the Mets have no plans to use him as a starter, wouldn&#8217;t  the highest resale value come with him as a starter?</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177621</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was selling low ? Milledge was coming off an injury riddled season and had been called up before he was ready because we were desperate for outfielders. His value was as low as it had ever been, hence why so many people were upset with the trade, at the time, because they thought we had essentially given him away. 

I doubt we could have traded him for Manny straight up like the rumors had alleged but if we had traded him before that season we would have gotten a better deal. Obviously with the way Church is playing now it&#039;s hard to see how the deal could have been better but I&#039;m talking about at the time the deal happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was selling low ? Milledge was coming off an injury riddled season and had been called up before he was ready because we were desperate for outfielders. His value was as low as it had ever been, hence why so many people were upset with the trade, at the time, because they thought we had essentially given him away. </p>
<p>I doubt we could have traded him for Manny straight up like the rumors had alleged but if we had traded him before that season we would have gotten a better deal. Obviously with the way Church is playing now it&#8217;s hard to see how the deal could have been better but I&#8217;m talking about at the time the deal happened.</p>
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		<title>By: MudvilleNine</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177382</link>
		<dc:creator>MudvilleNine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the jacket? He is the one who said Kazmir would never amount to be more than a bottom of the rotation starter. He saw top of the rotation stuff in Zambrano with just one or two tweeks to his delivery. He was wrong there. He&#039;s the one who said Heilman would never be a contributing starter. He&#039;s also had input on all those other trades. It was funny how last year Pedro said he saw what was wrong with two of our pitchers and when he came back those guys pitched better. I&#039;m not fooled by the jackets reputation and nobody else should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the jacket? He is the one who said Kazmir would never amount to be more than a bottom of the rotation starter. He saw top of the rotation stuff in Zambrano with just one or two tweeks to his delivery. He was wrong there. He&#8217;s the one who said Heilman would never be a contributing starter. He&#8217;s also had input on all those other trades. It was funny how last year Pedro said he saw what was wrong with two of our pitchers and when he came back those guys pitched better. I&#8217;m not fooled by the jackets reputation and nobody else should.</p>
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		<title>By: pvhornet05</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177227</link>
		<dc:creator>pvhornet05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade Heilman to the Pirates for Damaso Marte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade Heilman to the Pirates for Damaso Marte.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177169</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dirty ... don&#039;t you think the Wilpons want to win now and build a strong franchise for the future too? You can do both, and Theo Epstein is the proof of that. 
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we have given up draft picks for FA and that has hurt retooling the farm. &lt;/b&gt;

Theo and Cashman have given up draft picks by signing FAs as well.. But you know how they got them back? By offering arbitration to their own players who left for free agency. So Omar has to reconsider his practice of acquiring AARP players not only because they&#039;re often hurt and unproductive, but also because they are unlikely to bring back draft picks when they leave the team. Either they retire or don&#039;t rate highly enough. 

&lt;b&gt;i think the mets as well as most of baseball is thinking young.&lt;/b&gt;

When they gave Castillo four years, picked up Alou&#039;s option year, and signed El Duque for two years, that is not thinking young. 

But I agree. The trend for most of baseball  is to get young and a big reason for that is without steroids and greenies anymore, older players just can&#039;t keep up. So the Mets need to get with it and stop going the AARP way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirty &#8230; don&#8217;t you think the Wilpons want to win now and build a strong franchise for the future too? You can do both, and Theo Epstein is the proof of that.<br />
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we have given up draft picks for FA and that has hurt retooling the farm. </b></p>
<p>Theo and Cashman have given up draft picks by signing FAs as well.. But you know how they got them back? By offering arbitration to their own players who left for free agency. So Omar has to reconsider his practice of acquiring AARP players not only because they&#8217;re often hurt and unproductive, but also because they are unlikely to bring back draft picks when they leave the team. Either they retire or don&#8217;t rate highly enough. </p>
<p><b>i think the mets as well as most of baseball is thinking young.</b></p>
<p>When they gave Castillo four years, picked up Alou&#8217;s option year, and signed El Duque for two years, that is not thinking young. </p>
<p>But I agree. The trend for most of baseball  is to get young and a big reason for that is without steroids and greenies anymore, older players just can&#8217;t keep up. So the Mets need to get with it and stop going the AARP way.</p>
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		<title>By: dykstraw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dykstraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is going to trade anyone of value for heilman right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who is going to trade anyone of value for heilman right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177139</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that should read &quot;club&quot; not &quot;clue&quot; in the last sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should read &#8220;club&#8221; not &#8220;clue&#8221; in the last sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177134</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the reports that Franco was divisive did not come from Willie. They came from rumors surrounding the Latino/white player split last year ... as well as reports from beat reporters.  Willie was not the source of them.

Also, Valentin made a surprisingly candid remark about Franco after he left -- saying something like his leadership role was overblown. 

The team was much better when Franco was there because Delgado and Reyes were hitting much better then. And Franco was not the reason they were hitting better then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the reports that Franco was divisive did not come from Willie. They came from rumors surrounding the Latino/white player split last year &#8230; as well as reports from beat reporters.  Willie was not the source of them.</p>
<p>Also, Valentin made a surprisingly candid remark about Franco after he left &#8212; saying something like his leadership role was overblown. </p>
<p>The team was much better when Franco was there because Delgado and Reyes were hitting much better then. And Franco was not the reason they were hitting better then.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177113</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. I don&#039;t think many people know. From a reading of the option rules, it appears he might have options this year.

Regardless, I believe they need to do something with him. A trade may be the best route if they don&#039;t have options left. 

He has no incentive anymore to succeed as a reliever. He hates the role. And all the home crowd does is boo him. It would be best for both him and the clue to make a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t think many people know. From a reading of the option rules, it appears he might have options this year.</p>
<p>Regardless, I believe they need to do something with him. A trade may be the best route if they don&#8217;t have options left. </p>
<p>He has no incentive anymore to succeed as a reliever. He hates the role. And all the home crowd does is boo him. It would be best for both him and the clue to make a change.</p>
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		<title>By: TheIcon</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/21/buzz-mets-shopping-aaron-heilman/#comment-177107</link>
		<dc:creator>TheIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Mets need to do is send Heilman done to the minors to get himself straightened. It&#039;s worked for other pitchers before, why not now for Heilman. Remember how Steve Trachsel got things turned around after he spent some time in Norfolk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Mets need to do is send Heilman done to the minors to get himself straightened. It&#8217;s worked for other pitchers before, why not now for Heilman. Remember how Steve Trachsel got things turned around after he spent some time in Norfolk?</p>
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