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In mid-April, with the Mets at 12–11, a fellow fan said to me, “Well, it can’t get any worse than this.”
Last night, listening to WFAN, reading e-mails, comments and watching SNY, I heard lots of people say that this – 22–23 – must be ‘rock bottom’ for the Mets.
Asked if this is the lowest point of the season yet, Carlos Delgado told reporters last night, “I certainly hope so, we still have four months left.”
Folks, it can certainly get a lot worse than this, which is exactly why some sort of change needs to occur. Maybe it’s the manager that must change, maybe it’s the roster, maybe it’s the overall team culture, or maybe it’s all of the above.
The point is, like I wrote a few weeks ago, it feels like there is a clog in this team’s drain and it desperately needs to be removed, because this is currently not working and has not worked in a while.
As noted on Faith and Fear in Flushing, the Mets are 76-79 since Memorial Day 2007. And, as Jason R, a reader from MetsBlog, pointed out to me in an e-mail, the Mets are 27–35 since September 14 of last season.
Willie Randolph, following last night’s loss, said:
“This is one of those tough spots in the year where you’ve got to fight through it and not overreact and keep fighting and working to get back – and we will.”
Is Randolph speaking to his team, or is he speaking through reporters to his bosses regarding his job?
He’s right, though, the Wilpons should not overreact, but they do have to react. Because, unlike in the early 90s, or the late 70s, the Mets as a business have way too much to lose now, with a television network and a new stadium on the horizon – much of which teeters upon a fan base that I sense is starting to feel like it’s being teased and taken for granted.
I know that’s what he’s supposed to say, but I’m sick of hearing it.
Fans get down on players who don’t talk to the press, as if they are hiding from something or don’t care enough to stick around for a few minutes after the game. Yet there is NOTHING that Randolph, Wright, Delgado, Wagner or anyone on the Mets can say that won’t piss us off at this point.
I’m still gonna watch the games, I’m too much of a fan/addict not to. But these postgame post-mortems with reporters hovering around looking for someone to say something controversial so they will have a story the next day are getting OLD.
I don’t care anymore what anyone says. They all want to win, I believe that. White, Black, Latin, Starters, Bench, Bullpen, Front Office, Manager, Coaches, Everyone. They are all disappointed with themselves, individually and collectively. This soap opera of looking for some storyline to explain it all is childless and meaningless and futile.
So fine, they have to do their job by talking to the press, and reporters have their jobs to do as well. But I am DONE with it. Performance on the field is the only thing that matters to me now. Every single player in our lineup is talented and capable of doing better than they are. Step it up fellas.
Let’s go Mets.
Deaner: Delgado, Randolph or Cerrone? (Is your screen-name a sign of brownness? Cool if so.)
So when is it okay to overreact, Willie?
maybe after the worst colla…. ah nevermind. FIRE WILLIE.
Firing Willie would in no way be overreacting. It would be an appropriate action to take for 6 consecutive months of uninspired play from nearly his entire roster.
I think it would to just fire him. If they think about it for two weeks, and suitably find a real replacement for him and the coaching staff, then it wouldn’t be.
I don’t think he’s the problem, but they do need to do something. But it seems obvious change for changes sake is not going to get the job done, and it _is_ too early to give up on the season and just promote an interim manager.
So what do we think? Is the meeting on Sunday night between the Wilpons and Willie the end? Or the final notice/warning? The fact they won’t return his call is ominous.
Frankly, I think they should let the fans have the chance to express themselves to Willie and the team on Memorial Day. Just for the catharsis. Then can him by the end of the month.
IM TELLING YOU ALL….THEY NEED TO SHAVE THEIR HEADS LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR
NOW 88-85 (AND DROPPING) SINCE MAY 11TH 2007, THE GAME AFTER THEY ALL SHAVED THEIR HEADS
What did that do? They didn’t make the playoffs.
Right, so they need to Reverse The Curse by shaving their heads again…. WITHOUT GLAVINE
How about before they leave they just shave Glavine’s head?
Ceetar, thank you for the laugh.
Perhaps they should worry more about what’s inside their head than what is on top of it. :)
Yeah, but at least they got rid of the clubhouse lice infestation.
Why don’t they go Oakland style and try growing thier hair and beards out. It’s worth a shot.
Because they’re almost too bloody conservative to take a breath without asking for an air-quality test first…Anna Benson…Lastings Milledge…??
Seriously…Can we get Barack Obama to give an motivational speech to this team?
NO WE CAN’T!
(he’s a little busy)
Now we have hit rock bottom.
Haha! (Why the caps, Danny? & What the hell does that mean, patrick?)
Maybe Obama can sit down with Bobby Cox and miraculously convince him to stop beating us like a rented mule. After all, he thinks it’ll work with Ahmadinejad…
Keep that jerk away from this team, this clubhouse is divided enough.
yeah. lets get mike piazza to give his rush limbaugh speech… maybe the team will get addicted to some magic pills.
Hillary? Is that you? I thought you liked the Yankees.
I don’t agree with signing Alou to a four year contract hoping he will stay off the disabled list. Where did you get that from?
We should’ve had Obama’s motivational speech during last-years downward spiral — especially since Obama may have had a more flexible schedule back then.
I do believe that the point of doing something — anything — would be better than nonexistence. And, who knows, a Keith Hernandez speech to the team could be a start of something positive.
Let’s face it; I’m not saying that Willie does not put forth the motivational effort with his teammates. Having said that, the most important thing is how these Metropolitans remain a .500 team with little sign of turning things around for the better.
I would love to hear how Willie can take-one-for-the-team and put his ego aside for the benefit of his team. I would not think any less of Willie if he decided to get some outside help in regards to motivational and inspirational tactics. I would respect Willie for wanting to dip into any bag of tricks in effort to turn this season around.
How about either Keith Hernandez and/or another old-timer from ‘86 to let these players have it. What’s the worst that can happen — another Mets loss? Randolph is obviously not a Lou Pinella, Bobby Cox, or my Hall of Famer by the name of Pete Rose. Thus, Willie needs to use his smarts and resources that have been with him all along.
Minaya got Willie and all Mets fans a very nice present by the name of Johan Santana. Minaya is a resource. Willie needs to dip into the keg of resources until the keg gets kicked.
Finally, as I’ve said all along, each-and-every player, coach, and personnel must be held accountable. The youngens need to learn, produce, communicate, and earn respect. The veterans need to guide, teach, produce, communicate, and lead-by-example. The coaches and personnel need to support, guide, communicate, teach, lead, manage, and provide resources. A good team takes pride in their work. A good team remains accountable.
–thebloggersbeat.com – *Coming Soon*
Words are all we ever get from this team, Wright included. I’m sick of it.
That’s just silly. This is a word-culture, you’re commenting with words on a blog, and you’re discussing words. By your own logic, the first step in recovering from “sick” -ness would be for everybody to just shut the blinking bleep up.
I’m sick of no one doing a thing about the inconsistency. I’m sick of fans (myself included) spending money at the games. Where is the fun? This game is about having fun! The team has been less than stellar. They haven’t performed up to par since last May (2007). What else can happen? I fear it’s only the beginning. We have an overpriced, underachieving squad. The team should be capable of performing to expectation. THIS SUX!
i’m sick of the word “inconsistency”
Then you should avoid Joseph Leonard Morgan like the plague.
Randolphs way has always to keep it together since day one when Looper shat on opening day 2005 and the Mets began 0-5, it is too late for him to change his tone and have it be taken seriously in the clubhouse, the players know exactly what he is about and that they are the ones who need to do it on the field, if the ownership takes him out, that is fine, but it is a public relations stunt to me unless they remove the entire coaching staff including Mr. CEO
patrick, children read this blog. the least you could do is use apostrophes where required.
At least he capitalized.
Who else is so tired of all these quotes?
firing Willie won’t help but that is exactly what looks to be happening.
Santana has bee LESS than what we hoped.
the injuries were predicted and have come true.
OP is reverting to his old tricks, Pelfrey is not a solid pticher just a prospect and Reyes/Wright/Bletran and DelGado are simply not performing well.
a trend?
looks like it to me.
I wouldn’t lump Reyes, Wright & Beltran in with Delgado.
The former are just not playing up to their potential while the latter is clearly on the decline.
I agree. Beltran has been hitting well as of late.
if by late you mean yesterday, then yea he is hitting better of late…
The homer was nice to see, but his 2 hits once the game was blowout on Wed night do nothing for anything except Beltran’s BA.
his 2 for 5’s are a lot better than 0 for 5’s. That to me is at least something to grab at.
I wouldn’t say that Johan has been less than we hoped. Most of us knew that Johan does much better after the ASB than before. Two years ago, when Johan won his last Cy Young, he was 10-1 in 13 starts, with an ERA near 2.65, after the ASB. If Johan wins, say, ten games before the ASB, then it’s gong to be a great second half.
First of all, Santana is the ONLY pitcher right now who doesn’t make me nervous of the end result. Santana is the ONLY pitcher who I trust to earn this team a “W.” Maine is a solid, young and promising pitcher; yet, the man who’s going to carry this club – and give them the best chance to win – is Johan Santana.
Secondly, I’m okay with Santana getting his high-hitting, run-scoring loss out of his system, because I not only know that he’s not perfect – I also know that Johan will rebound in a dominant fashion, and lead this team to many big wins.
Finally, in regards to the top-selling saga, “Free Willie,” we do not know for a fact that his departure won’t help. The record keeps playing the same ole – same ole song, so it’s about that time to change records.
And, we can only hope to see the same affect as if we were pulling and replacing our hockey goalie, because I’ve watched enough hockey to know how such a change can surely spark the team. The Mets need a spark.
With Alou on the DL, can we try and get a real OF, someone that can stabilize this lineup on a daily basis, not someone who plays a month than sits a month?
Once we get LF stabilized, if and when Alou comes back we have a great 4th OF in Alou who can PH, or we can play a 4 OF rotation and then let Angel and Endy battle it out for the 5th OF spot, but then this leads to Damion Easley no longer needing a roster spot as the only RH PH and whe nthe dust settles all we need is a new 1B and let get going.
I read somewhere of a made-up olney-like rumor of Delgado for Sexson…if the M’s would do it, I would too…I mean whatever, no I dont want Sexson, BUT there is no legit 1B out there…if we call up Mike Carp you might as well say “hello 2009, we have given up 08″ so if Sexson comes over adn is as bad as Delgado so be it and if he is any better its only a bonus to the 7 spot in the lineup
So to make a short statement very long, to me, the next logical step is getting a full time OF, doesnt need to be an allstar but a Brian Giles type may just fit in nicely…and I heard the padres like Aaron Heilman types….
Where is Reggie Sanders? I would take him for the rest of the year.
I think I saw Reggie Sanders as some team’s (D-Backs?) postgame TV show analyst.
Alou belongs in the AL not the NL this way he doesn’t have to play the field and just be a DH. He is TOO old his body keeps breaking down. Why wasn’t this addressed in the off season? Omar is soooo DENSE that he could not see from last year that Alou would not be able to play an entire season? he could not find anyone younger to play? This is just one of Omar’s faults. Omar needs to go
Uh because when we resigned Alou we had plenty of OF to take his place?
therealsince86 I do not understand your posting?
Which other FA could we have signed at the time?
Therealsince86 has it exactly right. What free agent outfielder did you want to sign instead of ALOU? One of the reasons he is attractive is because hes a 1 year contract. If we signed a fukudome for example to a 5 year deal you would be crying about blocking FMART.
So maybe the Wilpons are playing the Met Fans for fools? do you really think the Mets were going to compete with a major aging outfielder, who can barely play his position for a solid month without getting hurt and a first basemen that displayed major decline the previous year? The fans were SUCKERED to believe this team has a shot at the playoffs this year. The only thing the Mets upgraded was a starting pitcher and lett the lineup a MAJOR question mark. Lets be real here
I just get so frustrated that Willies, and the teams, mantra always stays the saem “it’s early, we need to turn a corner). That’s the same BS they were spewing in mid April when we were all complaining about the inconsistency. Well, last I checked, June is slightly more than a week away and nothing has changed. If anything, they are playing even less inspired if that is even possible. I’ve been a fan since the early 80’s, and I can’t remember the last time I was this dumbfounded by the play on the field
relax willy feels like they are about to turn the corner… willy is never wrong
I’m torn on this whole change thing. I’m all in favor of a change but where does it start and where does it end? I posted that Willie should go just because you can’t fire multi millon dollar players all that easily. But I really don’t think that Willie is the blame for it all. Beltran is not hitting, Delgado hasn’t been hiting for year and a half, Reyes is extremely streaky, Alou is a walking DL, Pitching is hot/cold, and so much more. I would let Delgado go but who would fill in? The minors are a shambles with no one ready to help out this year or maybe even next year. Can’t trade, can’t promote…what to do? I am worried about the season folks. (Keyword is worried)
what needs to change is fan expectation. reyes, wright, beltran, and maine are simply not as good as we think.
i might be inclined to agree with reyes (and to a lesser degree, beltran) but wright is every bit as good as we think. and nobody thinks maine is a star, but he’s a solid starter – how does he get lumped into this comment?
Excellent post, Is it really Willie’s fault? Listen, I didn’t want him here to begin with but this team is full of old under achieving players. There is no one on this team who anyone can point to and say” He’s the Man” follow his lead. Beltran makes allot of $$ but he’s a good player not a great one. Wright is still to young and streaky and so is Reyes. The rest are a bunch of once were’s. When yopu look at the make-up of this team while I do not at all like Willie’s managerial style, he is working with what Omar has given him. A new manager isn’t going to make much of a difference, this team is just not as talented as we thought, due to injuries, age, chemistry, whatever. The worse part is I have rooted for some awful Mets teams in the past and had been able to do so b/c they played with heart. This team makes me angry whenever i see them jogging to first base, play the game hard and I will accept defeat, it’s ok if the other team is better just not if they are better prepared.
easy to say, Matt, but what change will actually be effective?
we are stuck with Pedro, El Duque, Alou, Castillo, Delgado, Beltran, Reyes & Wright
the smart thing to do is look at the team, one part at a time
1) the Wilpons – they are investing in the team, and want it to succeed – no problems there (anymore – they worked out the organizational issues already)
2) Omar – he gets credit (Santana, Church, Schneider, Maine, Perez, not signing Barry Zito, etc.) and blame (Heath Bell, Bannister, too many old players, the contract for Castillo, etc.) – no change required
3) Starting pitchers – Santana, Maine, Perez, Pelfrey – fine – if Pedro comes back, no further change required
Tony Armas Jr. is another possible option
Vargas/Figueroa to fill in if needed
4) Relievers – Wagner – one of the best – Duaner/Feliciano/Schoeneweis/Wise/Joe Smith – solid
Heilman – should have been a starter – stretch him out or trade him, and replace him with Muniz
5) Lineup – first half
Reyes/Church/Wright/Beltran – our first 4 – we will live or die with them
6) Lineup – second half
Delgado/LF/Schneider/Castillo
Schneider is solid
Delgado & Castillo perhaps should be cut
LF should be Pagan if he can be healthy soon – otherwise a trade is in order
7) Bench – Castro/Casanova/Easley/Marlon/Chavez
no problems there
8) Willie
If you look at the above, Willie is not the problem – he has class and has been a good decision maker this year
Thinking of Tom Coughlin and Al Arbour – two coaches who were criticized in their day, and then went on to win
Yes, Al Arbour – the Islanders choked a few years, then won 4 cups – if they’d lost that overtime game to the Flyers in 1980, who knows what Arbour’s perception would have been?
Same is true for Davey Johnson – if not for the miracle comeback – how would he be perceived?
Willie deserves every chance – a Larry Bowa would not light a fire under these guys
basically, we have some tweaking to do, but other than that – we will live or die with this bunch
Castillo should be cut?
I posted this earlier but you need it again.
Castillo has a hit in 9 of the last 10 games.
He has played in 34 games and has reached base in 31 of those.
He has a .295 AVG and .436 OBP at home.
With RISP 2/O .333 and .500 OBP.
He is 4th on the team in OBP
Has the least amount of SO of any starter
2nd in 2B stealing 7/8.
And although I know that errors do not show range, they do show the ability to make the normal play (with a couple of exceptions) he has 2. Compared to 6 for Utley and Hudson.
Precisely the sort of analysis that misses why Castillo is so horrible. He wilts under any pressure. The Mets cannot afford that type of hitter/player in the everyday lineup.
With RISP 2/O .333 and .500 OBP.
so castillo stats are misleading? is that what you are saying…
all 25 guys on this team wilt in a pressure situation, at least he is one of the few who hits well in innings 1-6…unfortunately…he’s the only one with Chruch out…
LOL. what is that risp 2/O analysis bsaed on? 6 AB?
I can live with those numbers if he stays in the 8th hole… If these rest of these guys would hit, no one would even mention castillo…
Apparently, you didn’t watch this last series.
And yes, the sample size is ridiculous. As Vcarver/FAH used to point out, you need to look at more variables than “2 out” to really determine whether a guy has been clutch.
Castillo is a cancer on this team and a .333 RISP stat means 1 for 3… .500 OBP means 1 walk. That is nothing to talk about, so enough with the stats.
He lacks fundamentals & is a terrible decision maker while at the plate, on the bases AND in the field. he may come up with the occasional nice play, But I have more faith in either of our other 2b options when it counts most.
The only good thing about him is that he is supposedly one of the main reasons that Santana wanted to come here. If Omar needed to sign him to a 4 year deal in order to sway Johan’s attention our way then I understand….. other than that, Castillo is right up there on my list of Hated Mets Players….. Cedeno, Bonilla, Benitez, Alomar & Castillo
it’s a lot easier to cut a player in the last year of his contract (Delgado) than a player in his first. Castillo is going to be around for a while, unless you hire Tonya Harding’s boyfriend to do a little something.
I think Castillo could get hurt on his own with out taking a crowbar to the knee
Dying to hear what great decisions Willie has made this season that you refer to?
starting Angel Pagan & Ryan Church
and then switching to Moises Alou for Pagan made sense (when many said stick with Pagan – and it wasn’t clear out of Spring Training that Church would be excellent – give Willie some credit here for Alou/Pagan/Church)
is it WIllie’s fault that Reyes/Wright/Beltran/Delgado have been playing collectively like a sack of baseballs?
Willie’s shooting for a starting rotation of Santana/Pedro/Maine/Perez/Pelfrey?
no problem
trying to make the most of the lineup?
using the bench when possible?
trying to get the most out of the pen?
(standing up for Heilman and Schoeneweis – worked for Schoeneweis – not WIllie’s fault that Heilman has sucked – Heilman should have been converted back to a reliever long ago – same as Heath Bell should have still been on this team)
the problems with this team are not Willie’s fault -he’s done all he can do
better question – name one thiing Willie should have done that could have helped this team
not use Castillo?
that’s Omar’s fault
blaming Willie for this is naive and dangerous
he hasn’t been the problem
I meant Heilman of course should have been converted back from a reliever to starter long ago
blaming Willie for using the pen and their being inconsistent is not his fault
his standing up for Shoe has worked
Heilman’s failure is not on Willie
it’s more on the Jacket and whoever else thinks he shouldn’t be a starter – most of the rest of baseball knows this
not Willie’s fault that he has to use what he’s given
it’s amazing that you can tell just by watching how they looked while losing the home opener that the season would play out just like this
After the game last night, I told my wife that I wished I could take a break from being a Mets fan… But I know I can’t and will turn on the tube again tonight and hope.
We are definitely in that “change for change’s sake” zone. Unless the Mets sweep the Rox, I think Willie may be gone after the weekend. I would really like to see them go outside of the organization (I like Tony Pena myself), but I don’t know how you do that and I also don’t know what you do with the current staff.
We can’t panic with the players, but we are in a tough spot in the outfield right now. I think we need to ride it out for a few weeks, but if the team shows signs of lifting out of the doldrums, you probably need a consistent solution in LF. I don’t know who is available, but when is Pagan going to be ready to come off of the DL?
I really think that if Willie goes, the whole staff has to go. That is why I prefer to wait until after the season, but I certainly couldn’t argue if he does get the axe within the next few weeks,
Gary talked about Pagan in the brodcast two days ago or so and said he “wasn’t even close to perforning any baseball activities yet” that his brusied shoulder was bad.
I hate to keep repeating myself, but our offense is struggling big time in the risp department. The greatest hitter of all time* is siting out there, waiting by his phone. The media circus can’t get much worse then it already has.
Mr. Bonds, get your @$$ on the next flight to denver. Raul Casanova aint gonna play left field
I think you are right why not, it’s not like this team would be any worse or you would say man Bonds is on the team I really don’t like them now.
maybe bonds will also bring “something special” for delgado…
I agree. Get Bonds, have him platoon with Alou if/when he ever comes back. They’re both part time players at this point anyway. Makes total sense.
DO NOT GET BONDS
OR SOSA
we are enough of a laughingstock as it is…….
And not only is he out there but our LF just went on the DL. And he is RH and injury prone so he is a perfect candidate to be platooned with a good LH bat. It’s really a great match.
If the Mets were in the AL I would agree with you, but a healthy Bonds moves about as well in LF as a disabled Alou. But I guess it would be more fun to lose 10-8 than 10-2.
Did you see Marlon Anderson in LF? Pagan can’t field either and Endy is hitting .100.
I love Bonds. I think he is so used to the distractions that he causes, it will take all the attention off the rest of the clubhouse.
lol. too true.
I don’t see the team getting any worse with Bonds on the team. Nowhere to go but up!
I think this is the part of the pool known as the “deep end.”
Yeah a team in turmiol needs the most controversial player of all time.
From MLBtraderumors
Nick Johnson and Dmitri Young, Nationals. Johnson will be out for roughly a month with a torn wrist tendon, while Young just returned from the DL after a lower back strain. It’ll be tough for Jim Bowden to move either of them.
Rich Aurilia, Giants. He’s heating up this month. He’s being paid $4.5MM this year, and it wouldn’t take much.
Kevin Millar, Orioles. Millar seems to enjoy playing in Baltimore, and the O’s are only two games out of the wild card. He’s not hitting much yet anyway.
Richie Sexson, Mariners and Carlos Delgado, Mets. Both seem more likely to be designated for assignment than traded. Their salaries have kept them afloat so far.
Paul Konerko, White Sox. Logic says Konerko stays put. A sore wrist has contributed to a slow start, he has 10 and 5 rights, and he earns $12MM annually through 2010.
Adam LaRoche, Pirates. Seems to have shaken off his typical slow start. Extension talks fizzled.
Scott Hatteberg, Reds. He seems likely to go, and would probably prefer it. Hatteberg may be the first order of business for Walt Jocketty.
Chris Duncan, Cardinals. The Cards can probably get by in the outfield without him. The 27 year-old has a career line of .271/.359/.512.
Kendry Morales, Angels. Morales, 25 in June, is hitting .298/.341/.470 in Triple A.
Chad Tracy, Diamondbacks. With Mark Reynolds and Conor Jackson manning the corners in Arizona, Tracy isn’t needed. He could return within a week, finishing a long recovery from microfracture knee surgery.
Obviously everyone on here knows I want Morales. However, as a bandaid I would not mind seeing a trade for Rich Aurilia. Maybe even a trade of Endy Chavez for him would work.
The Giants have absolutely NO NEED for Endy Chavez. They will want a marginal minor league prospect or two in return.
They won’t get 2 prospects for him. I guess you are right about Endy but at least they could unload his salary. I just don’t think once Pagan comes back that Endy is needed on this team anymore. Rich could be a good platoon with Delgado and play all the other IF positions as well.
Endy Chavez at this point will get us less back then Heilman, at least Heilman had a good 07…Endy might be gone when Pagan & Alou comes back if we get a legit LF to replace Alou as th EVERYday LF
I would assume that everyone knows you would get more for Heilman than you would a backup OF. Again, he is cheap and maybe a team would be looking for a salary dump. Earlier in the offseason a trade of Endy for Jason Marquis was mentioned. That’s the type of trade I see Endy bringing us. Noone is going to give us a prospect for Endy.
I thought of somethig several weeks ago but never mentioned it to anyone other than my girlfriend because i thought it would make people go crazy. But i’ve heard talked about on WFAN twice this week so I kow I wasn’t the only one thinking it. JOSE VALENTIN! Not saying he should be the next manager, but if changes are made, I’d love to see him added to the staff in some capacity. THe guy knows how to play the game right, owns a team in PR……seems to have the makeup to be a great coach and manager. And Ron said it on last nights broadcast…he is possibly th glue that held the clubhouse together. A veteran player with a quality resume who isn’t afraid to take a leadership role……the team could not do any worse having him around
I agree. They should bring him on staff somehow.
Jose Valentin is another washed up has been who choked in the ‘06 NLCS. If the players can’t play without him, then get rid of the players.
We find it’s always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there’s less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week. – Bob
Turns out Willie was fired last year. He keeps getting paid because of a glitch in the payroll system. So all the Wilpons have to do is fix the glitch.
I think they moved his office down to storage room B.
Just make sure he doesn’t start a fire until AFTER the year is over…
Just make sure he keeps the red stapler.
LOL.
I’m wearing my Initech tee shirt today.
LOL!
Maybe Fred W. needs to bring in The Bobs to do some consulting.
anyone want to buy the rest of my saturday package?
worst investment ever….
Worst investment for you or for the team?
I gotta say Bonds would help this team. That’s all that matters. He gets on base, provides protection for Beltran and he has pop, of which this team has little. With him in the lineup, Delgado won’t hurt us as bad.
Reyes
Mole-tran
Wright
Bonds
Church
Not Delcrappo
Schnieder
Castillo
Why not make your lineup even deeper?
Castillo in the 2 hole is still not bad, he is hitting his career averages from the 2 spot this season.
Reyes, Castillo, Church, Wright, Bonds, Beltran, Delgado, Schnieder.
Plus your lineup has 4 LH in a row. I know you say no Delcrapo but until there is a replacement that’s what we got. Besides, I still say our light hitting #7 hitter is not our problem. It’s Reyes, Wright and Beltran that have to step up.
I think you’re missing the bigger picture of having NOT delgado and ADDING Bonds
Besides I’d be a hypocrite if I said I wanted Bonds
Eff that tool
beltran needs more AB per game than castillo…
reyes
beltran
wright
6 outs…
I DO NOT want that STEROID LYING low life Bonds on the METS. He would cause more problems than you know.
More problems than now?
He would only help this team as it is.
Yes Bonds is just a huge problem. I do not feel as desperate as you to put a individual like Bonds on a team that I not only root for but pay money to see. He is not someone that i would like my son to see play. He is DEFINITELY not the answer to the Mets problems
Ok. No one showed any interest in my team building idea from before, so I have a new idea:
I think they should play this out “Survivor” style. Every week, one Met gets voted off the team by the team. MVP of the week gains immunity. People will continue to get voted off the team until they start winning baseball games again.
Now that’s not a bad idea at all.
Haha. If only…
Sounds like they’ve already formed tribes.
these quotes tell you they aren’t anywhere close to getting things turned around
“I certainly hope so, we still have four months left.”
could Carlos Delgado be anymore disinterested in this team? Its like this guy is sitting in the locker room counting the days until he can retire. When is a Met player going to reassure the fans and his team that things are going to turn around? The reason this doesn’t happen is they have NO FAITH IN EACH OTHER, or the manager.
He says “We still have four months left” like he’s not sure if they Mets will get out of this funk. Its a self imposed funk, when they choose to come out and play, they play.. Its going to get to a point though where this is not possible anymore. Karma will not allow this team to dog games and then flip the switch.
“This is one of those tough spots…” What about The last YEAR. Aye Caramba. Adios señor willie.
PS.
Blood will run in the streets of Zurich.
German bankers will throw themselves under the trolley.
Widows and orphans will be left penniless.
There will be panic, looting, rioting in the streets, and suicides!
And you, my dear, sweet friends…
…you were here, right at the start.
Come, we celebrate.
A “The In-Laws” reference.
Beautiful!
The quicker we get rid of Willie, the quicker we can realize that the problem is Minaya.
OK, is Minaya a problem because of signing Castillo to 4 years, resigning the hurt Alou and giving 4 years to Pedro?
Or are you one of the “I cant believe he traded away Bell & Bannister” guys? cause if its the latter, please remember Nady, OP, Church, Shneider, Endy and the 20 good moves (including moves like telling Lodcua to take a hike) he made for every bad move
If its the first…shoot, I’m starting to agree, too many veterans with health issues.
More of the first and no talent development or scouting skills to speak of.
Well…..one positive for me in all of this…..if we go into next season playing like this at least it should help weed out all the “life long fans” from the seats at Citi-field !!!
4-1/2 games out in May is NOT the end of the season……even the best teams go through slumps……how about SUPPORTING your team through these kinds of times instead of contributing to the pressure….this whole NY mentality of ..” I pay good money to go to these games, I have the right to boo them if I want to ” is a load of
C R A P. If someone doesn’t make an effort, then I say boo all you want, but it’s not like these guys don’t care.
Do we need some change….I think we do. I think Delgado is basically done…we need some new blood at the position. Can we afford to shell out next year for “Big Tex” and will he sign here if we do ?? That’s the $64,000,000 question. We stuck ourselves with a 2b who has trouble getting the ball out of the infield and a LF who is on the DL as much as he is on the field.
I Willie the right guy for this club…..maybe not…..maybe we need someone with some fire in his belly, BUT that person needs to be able to handle NY AND know how to manage the game as well. Who do we turn to……Keith, The Kid, Davey, Wally, Bobby ?? If we knew the answer to that we should probably be playing the market as well.
All I can say is that I for one am not abandoning the ship…..I have been a TRUE Met fan since I was 5 years old…..for 37 years I have worn my allegiance proudly and I won’t stop now !
All you who are jumping off the bandwagon now, just make sure that you don’t go buying up the tickets next season with your brand new hats and jerseys on……THOSE SEAT ARE THERE FOR METS FANS !!!
are you watching the games man? Are you listening to the interviews. THEY DON”T CARE..
Thats what this is about!
I agree with an earlier post that we may regret “change, just for the aake of change” theme that is now evident.
Something does need to give and I’m not advocating a public execution of Willie. However, if the change includes getting Barry “the puke” Bonds then I will have to hang up my blue and orange hat and regret my purchase of DirectTV SuperFan!
For me the issue is performance. Regardless of whether guys are a little long in the tooth, or having trouble with the pressure is a bunch of crap for me. These guys are professional athletes who make some serious coin. Time to Sack Up. That’s right, not suck it up, but SACK UP and show you got a pair.
The starting line-up last night did not have anyone batting over .286. What the heck is that! The Braves had 5 hiters over .290. That does not include Tex, Frenchy, and Diaz. All run producers as well. Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Castillo all need to get with the program. If it takes Willie getting canned to make that happen then let it happen. If not, then the blame should rest on the players more than anyone.
With Old-Man Alou on the DL again, why not give one of the AA Kids a shot to play LF for 2 weeks. As a fan it would be nice to see some young blood on the team that may actually provide a spark. Its not a sign of giving up if its a 2-week stint. Its more of a sign of giving up with another 35+ yr old catcher to sit on the bench for the next 2 weeks.
Does anyone really enjoy watching Marlon/Endy/Easley play LF every day?
Carp could play LF and 1B to get a nice taste of the Bigs and maybe even, possibly bring the long needed spark to this aging and boring team.
give ALL the AA kids a shot at the same time
would make them less nervous if they come up as a group
cut Delgado & Castillo at the same time
¿Donde estás Ángel Pagán? – i.e., more players who are hungry?
he’s not that good. He’s a bench player. Thats what our fearless leader tells anyone who is “hungry”. And they pretty much say…”eh, your right. What the hell am I even bothering for?”
You want to put a scare into this team. Ownership needs to sack up. Take some chances. Release Delgado. Bench Castillo. Bring up some of the kids. Bring in a hard-a** Manager who won’t baby these bums. Demote Heilman. Do something! Becuase it ain’t getting better.
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Please refer to my earlier post, Castillo the Role Player is of our least concern.
I notice a continual defense of Castillo in your postings. Why? Do you really believe he is still such a great player that has anything to really contribute to this team right now? I agree with other posts that say he should be benched for some period of time and get someone else to play the position. He can be good defensively, but we’ve seen sloppiness as well from him. And if we have to wait around for his knees to heal then put him on the DL and let him heal. He’s not doing much for us right now.
Jeez, reading some other posts below and finding that while I do not like Castillo right now–don’t see much coming from him that helps the team–I don’t think there’s any other alternative right now (or for the long-term future [four years is long term in baseball]) given his contract. You have to play him.
admit the mistake and cut him now
I’m all for demoting or trading Hielman. Unfortunately we have de-valued him though.
I would put Castillo in the two hole with a three week window to either perform or get sat. He has performed okay when he’s been in the two hole.
As for Delgado…I know I’m going to get killed for this, but I actually think he is going to hit 25-30 HR’s and drive in 85-90 before the year is out. Those are not bad numbers. He should be in the 6-7 hole. I do think his defense is shabby at best.
I would be happy with .250 and 20 HR from Delgado in the 7/8 hole of the lineup. Again, he is an aging star, it’s time for someone else to carry the team.
He has hit 6 in 45 games. So if he continues at this rate he will hit 22 HR and drive in 76. I have to think he has not been at his best so far either.
He is a streaky hitter and if he gets hot could start to really help out. I do think it will be a struggle for him to get above .250 though.
That won’t happen then poor ole STUPID Reyes will run crying to daddy Bernazard. And then he won’t be a happy sandlot ball player
Thwy should can Bernazard when they can Willie to send a message to Omar. That way, he’ll know what the Wilpons are sayin’!
*They
if Aaron Heilman does not draw a trade here in the next few days can anyone tell me why he should not be sent down. He has options and can you really imagine a spot where you want to bring him into a game. Really any spot, cause I can’t.
Didn’t they release good ole George Foster in the middle of the season that they went to the World Series?
Someone tell Fatso and angry Puppy that this was in the Daily News today ” Fred Wilpon, the team’s principal owner, and chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon will handle the decision about whether to change skippers – not GM Omar Minaya, according to sources”
Are they saying it’s Omar’s call? I think that ship has sailed. I really thought they everyone was ready to put the whole thing behind them and try and go forward, but now Omar is telling Willie the Wilpons need to meet with him when he gets back to New York. Maybe someone will call in and tell them about this stuff since it has been in the papers, but they’ll probably just get cut off.
Mike is saying he spoke to Omar and “he got the impression that it was Omar’s call and he wasn’t ready to fire Willie”.
What’s Omar gonna tell him? Thye have taken my power away. I’m in just as much trouble.
Oh, the “I spoke to Omar” routine again. :)
I’m really glad I stopped listening to him. Russo on his own on the weekends every now and then isn’t too bad.
And why would Omar tell him about anything sensitive right now if he knows the next day he’s gonna be on the air telling everyone “I SPOKE TO OMAR!”
Francesa’s sources are The Daily News, The NY Post, Newsday, and the Times
In order to remove a clog from a drain you have to pinpoint where it is so the real problem is fixed. If you don’t remove the real problem you run the risk of making things worse than they were by replacing the wrong part…
We get rid of Johnson and he’s replaced by the clueless Harrelson and then the hapless Torborg and then that nasty old curmudgeon Green. We get rid of Valentine and he’s replaced by the totally incompetent Howe… What happened in both of these instances? We went from a team that won 90+ games/season to a team that lost 90+ games/season…
Just a word of advice for all those who want the manager’s head on a platter. Be careful what you ask for because you may get it… and things may end getting a lot worse before they get better. Are Met fans willing to tolerate that again just for the sake of “change?” Think about it…
OR, you could be paralyzed by fear of making a mistake and accept the status quo. Sound like a good idea to you?
While I would lump Willie in with the Torborg/Green group, he isnt much better than Howe was. Sure the record is better, but so is the talent level.
In that respect I think Willie is just one of the guys holding down the seat between Bobby V. and the next manager we will actually remember fondly. It may not be the next guy they hire either, but they will get to him soon enough.
Of course, we also replaced George Bamberger/Frank Howard with Davey Johnson and Dallas Green with Bobby V, and both of those moves turned out well.
Didn’t Wright recently say “We’re not a .500 team”?
Well, it looks like he’s correct, they’re not!
Well, it would appear he is Wright then, huh?
metsfanatic,
as was posted before, castill osint even the problem, hes been much better than reyes at the plate, castillo is done his job as a singles hitter designed to move reyes from first to third…prob is reyes cant get to first
and as terrible as delgado has been, has he been any worse or less consistent than beltran? if reyes and beltran play to potential we’ll get back to 1st place, if they dont, it doesnt matter who you replace castillo and delgado with, this will be a playoff-less year.
Agree completely. The scapegoats are Castillo, Delgado, Heilman, Anderson and Easley. They are role players that don’t really have a role if the superstars are not being uh… superstars.
the players don’t want to play for Willie anymore. he seriously gotta go. god! this sucks
With the Wilpons’ Midas touch, there is no telling how low this can go . . . this year is done and the next 2-3 years will be no better as the Wilpons continue to try to patch things under Omar’s dated blueprint until they finally get a clue (after the novelty of the new stadium wears off) that it’s beyond fixing and everything must be torn down and re-built . . . about that time, D-Wright should rightfully be looking to get the hell away from this dysfunctional franchise
Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough…the tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go!
What the puck happened to the Mets I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Nick, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my arse from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Rollins, he’s a dead man! Chipper, dead! Burrell…
DEAD!!
:-)
thanks, i needed that.
The Mets need a Blutarsky (John Belushi) pep talk.
“This could be our best moment, but your going to make it our worst. Not me!”
Marmalard dead!
Wermer dead!
Neidemeyer dead!
FYI: I spoke to Omar
Hmmmm, I am 29 and lived through the 80’s since when did a game under 500 become a rock bottom. I know they collapsed last year, but rock bottom one game under in may? Laughable, I am a die hard, and it pained me to watch 3 of these four braves games, but ROCK BOTTOM? It can get so much worse, please dont let any bleach or any fire crackers in that clubhouse, then we migh get a taste of what the bottom is really like.
FUNDEMENATALS ARE THE KEY TO A WELL COACHED TEAM, WE HAVE NO FUNDIES. We have to be one of the worst fundamental teams in the game.
¡viva las fundies!
Lived through the 80s? The 80s were the glory years. You must mean the 90s.
Of course, we have had worse teams…the point is we expect more when we actually have a talented roster. We were okay with craptastic teams in the 60s, the late 70s and very early 80s, much of the 90s and half the 2000s. We were okay because we knew they weren’t any good – and some of those teams even overperformed, which can be fun.
Can’t you see the difference?
Also, do we want to return to the days when being within a game of .500 is the high water mark? Is that the attitude we want to return to? Do you want to wait another 22 years for the next title?
If the Wilpons want to get behind Willie they should do two things.
1) Delgado should be cut or traded with cash if they can buy a prospect or a bag of balls or anything really. Go with Carp and pick up a Hatteburg type to platoon.
2) Tony B_rn_zard should be fired. Delgado, Beltran, and others do not respect Willie because they can go over his head. Cut the link to the top.
This will send the message that clubhouse cancers and clubhouse dividers will not be tolerated, and it will let Omar know that they are behind Willie, and that Omar may be next to go instead of the manager.
If they arent going to get behind Willie and show the roster that he is boss, then they need to replace him with someone who wont take this BS and slap some of these guys around.
The window for many of these guys is short, unless we want to have another restocking phase for a couple years (think 2005) they need to try another voice. Anyone from Schowalter to even a Wally Backman is worth a try. If they dont work out you can get another manager for 2009 (or 2010 if its Schowalter) Its not like we will be longing for the days of Willie Randolph in 2011 because there were no better options between now and then…
I agree with basically all of this, but I’d get rid of Bernazard in any event.
Why get rid of only Bernazard, someone is letting him undercut Willie. They are at fault.
Nate W.,
Bernazard has to go along with Willie.
Not sure why you think the wilpons would want to get behind Willie? The Wilpons not returning his calls and having Omar relay the message they want to meet with him after the team plane lands late Sunday does not sound like they are about to get behind him…..unless it is to shove him out the door.
Bobby V or Wally, I’d LOVE to have one of those two guys come in and kick some ass.
I think Bobby V would be perfect. I don’t even think he’d pick up the phone though. He and the Wilpon’s had a falling out.
apparently Tony Bernazard is a banned name around here too..
It should be. The rat fink destroys the clubhouse presence and makes it hard for Willie to connect to his players, and he gets away with it because he is Omar’s puppy.
I am not defending Willie, but it is not 100% of his fault because of Tony not letting him do his job.
Very true. And casting all rumor aside, he’s the director of player development. How’s that working out?
I agree with Willie, in that they shouldn’t overreact. However, I wouldn’t call this an overreaction. Every time our owners spend money, they get no return on their investment. Look at the signings of Bobby Bonilla, acquiring Brett Saberhagen, etc, etc.
You can say that Bobby Bonilla was overpaid, etc….but the fact remains they paid him. I’m glad ownership isn’t being blamed for this, because this clearly isn’t their fault. I believe they have shown a commitment to winning and it’s just not happening so far this year.
I think the biggest albatross we have is Castillo. At least Delgado can hit a homer every now and then to contribute. Castillo can’t hit, he can’t bunt (at least he has failed in 2 key situations this year), he can’t field anymore, and he can’t run. He isn’t a hustler or a headsy player. He isn’t a major leaguer. Gotta figure out a way to rid ourselves of that contract.
I’ll agree that Castillo can’t hit for power, but he is batting .289 with an OBP of .385 when he is in the 2 hole this year. That is better than everyone else on the team.
Castillo has had 9 full seasons in the majors and in 6 of those he batted over .300, Including last year. He is only 32. I’m not a fan of his, but I also don’t think he is the problem.
If you want to point fingers at why we are not producing then look no further than Beltran and Reyes.
You’re right about that, if you go just by the numbers. It’s just that Castillo poses zero threat. Teams will pitch to him any day of the week because he can’t burn you. I would take Kelly Johnson over him any day of the week.
Castillo used to be a decent major league player, but age has taken away his speed, his range, and what’s looking like his bat.
That being said, I agree he should be in the 2-hole….for lack of a better option.
They pitch to Castillo because he can’t burn them, yet he never SO and has a high walk rate. What are you saying?
He never strikes out except for in a big spot. He is fundamentally sound, this explains why he can get a bunt down in a big spot. He is a great 2B, which is why he makes plays in big spots like he did in this series and last year on a routine ground ball double play against Philly.
The guy sucks. The sooner people realize that, the better. He belongs on an AL team, where he can bat 9th. Maybe he can play in the NL, for LaRussa. Maybe he sucks because of his bad knees, but the fact still remains that he sucks.
My name is a tribute to him. It is the days remaining on his contract. Far as I’m concerned, if Jose Valentin can swing a bat, the job is his.
Not to mention, he goes to the plate looking to walk, which leads to a disproportionate amount of backwards “K”’s.
Castillo is a shell of what he was as a Marlin-you might as well have Anderson Hernandez playing 2B.
Worst contract next to Vince Coleman ever signed by the Mets.
ZERO return on investment AND it’s only year ONE!!
Should have signed Eckstein for 2 years instead.
If there is a way to make things worse, Fred and Little Jeffy will hit upon it.
hahah now you are digging into the owners?!?! what the heck did they do? ? ?
I think Fred and Jeff have shown a commitment to winning. Highest payroll in the NL. What else would you like the owners to do?
mike francesa: “i asked keith last week if he’d take the mets managers job. he said, yes.”
We both type at the same speed, huh?
LOL
Fatso just said he asked Keith if he’d take the managers job for the Mets last week, and Keith said YES!!!!!!!
I still don’t see it, but wow!
What? Wow. That would be amazing! Of course who would entertain us in the booth.
:(
Oh well, get rid of Willie and bring on MEX!
Maybe Willie would take a job in the booth. Willie’s positive outlook has no place on this team. We must be negative. Need more negativity. Must. Get. It.
Someone. Please. Help. With. Nega. Tivi. Ty.
I would LOVE it if Hernandez managed the Mets. Man that would be GREAT
lol..that would be smart …he would get along great with both the white players and the Hispanics (Hernandez0…lol
That surprises me…he always struck me as too into his little luxuries and too impatient to be manager. I’d hate to lose him fom the booth.
Why is no one mentioning Ken Oberkfell as a possible replacement? From what I hear, he’s had great success in the minors. Maybe he deserves a shot.
I think he’s been mentioned quite a bit, and seems a logical choice, to me.
I dont know, he seems like as good an idea as anyone…
promoting your AAA manager is what the Pirates and Royals do… not your big market teams. At least not for the most part. I wouldnt mind him at all though.
Two words: Davey. Johnson. We have elevated minor league managers before. Like Davey. That worked out well.
I’d be okay with Oberkfell, even if he was the enemy in the 80s.
NOT Manuel. Nobody currently on the staff.
Has anybody thought about other teams being able to scout and see our hitters weaknesses……..i mean i understand you have to adapt to diffrent pitching but i noticed that alot of pitchers have been throwing ALOT of first pitch strikes…why not take a hack…i mean we are also paying for scouts to scout up coming teams…
Francesa just said on the air that he asked Keith Hernandez if he would take the manager job if offered it, and he states Keith said yes.
Wow… I don’t know if that is true. But that’s not what I would expect. I thought Keith was happy broadcasting and taking multiple days off.
Very interesting.
The only problem I have with that is that Keith has become such an important part of my Mets experience that I wouldn’t want to loose Keith after a few years of managing.. He would have to promise he’ll go back in the booth after the gig is up. Thats the only way.
Agreed. And how entertaining would those in game conversations be if Gary and Ronnie called down to talk to him in between innings. Classic…
WE want KEITH!!! No thats a chant we should start at shea on MOndya…
I can heart it now echoing through the halls.
KEITH HERNANDEZ.. CLAPCLAP, CLAP,CLAP,CLAP
IT’S ANOTHER WIN FOR JUST FOR MEN!
No play for Mr. Gray!
Keith would definitely have the respect of the players and he would kick some butt. How about Keith as the manager and bring in the straw man as bench coach?
Would he have the respet of the players? Do many of these guys have a clue as to who he is, how good he was?
We respect Mex because we saw him play. Many of these players were too young, in a different country, or don’t care about baseball history.
Guys guys, enough with all this manager replacement talk. It only takes two words to fix this team: Samuel Sosa.
Good one. . . .
Thanks guy! I like your sense of humor too!
May be the worst idea ever.
Bring back Bobby V! I’d love to see him come back like General MacArthur on the Mets first game back from this road trip. We could celebrate the event by sacrificing Delgado and Willie to the gods.
You do know that McArthur was even disowned by his own family in the end.
if keith fails, this blog will EXPLODE.
if willie fails, this blog will…nevermind
If Keith fails, it’ll confirm that the problem is with Minaya (it will just confirm it for me).
or GASP is this team cursed
And we could get Piazza in the booth to replace Keith. I like this idea
I wonder what Mike is trying to do. Apparently, he spends a lot of the show today plugging his conversation with Omar, and says he thinks Willie isn’t going anywhere.
Then he tells an audience full of angry Mets fans, many of whom want Willie to be fired, that he talked to one of the all-time Mets folk heroes, a guy already in the company, and that Keith said he would take the job if it was offered to him.
Nobody stirs the **** like Mike does.
now they are talking about rent and jersey boys
Say something funny, Mike!
Minaya won’t let Captain Keith come in here- because Keith is not a yes man and he will expose Minaya for the fraud that he is
bench or cut delgado + trade for sean casey.
not a terrible idea
trade who?
With all due respect to Pedro Martinez’s family situation, let’s face it: He isn’t a savior. In fact, players such Martinez actually are harmful to the Mets in a way, and ultimately speak poorly of GM Omar Minaya’s soon-to-be-fleeting tenure.
How so? Sure, the Mets can use someone with Martinez’s charisma and energy in a clubhouse devoid of energy. But one of the things good teams have is continuity. And Martinez is a poster child for the Mets’ frailty.
This is from Rubin’s latest blog entry. He is intimating that Omar is very much on the hot seat and may not have his job for long, which is what I’ve suspected for a long time.
Rubin also says something which I’ve often gotten bashed for by the Pollyannas here. That players like Alou are detrimental to the team because it can never get into a consistent rhythm and players are always waiting for the cavalry to arrive from the DL. Maybe if it were just one player, fine. But it’s many for the Mets. The team always feels like it’s missing multiple key components.
FYI .. it’s the “soon-to-be-fleeting tenure” that really caught my eye. There’s nothing else in his entry that brings up the issue.
Excellent- the sooner we shine the light on the cockroaches, the sooner they will disburse.
And don’t get me wrong. I am a big Pedro fan. But if you have him, then you shouldn’t go sign even MORE age/injury risks. That’s the issue I’ve always had with Omar. The amount of older risky players.
Cronyism and too many older vets. Minaya talked a good game (at least I think he did) about youth and player development, but in the end, he merely tried to outspend, hire his buddies, and patch holes with the aged and overpriced. I’d make him part of the purge, but starting with Willie and Bernazard is OK with me. It’s a shame, because Willie obviously wasn’t dealt a very good hand, but there’s no use confining blame to one party when there’s plenty to go around.
From Rubin’s blog:
“Meanwhile, there’s clearly a different set of rules if Minaya has your back. I’m sure Chris Correnti, Martinez’s trainer, is a wonderful guy. He was even placed on the Mets’ payroll and given full clubhouse access this year. Of course, the second Martinez went away, so did Correnti, which tells you all you need to know about whether he was a team trainer or one player’s.”
If true, this just confirms the cronyism that Minaya fosters. Get this snake out of here already.
Replace Minaya with Cashman?
Oh god, no. He might be even worse. Do you want a Carl Pavano or Igawa?
Don’t forget Jared Wright, Javier Vasquez, Kyle Farnsworth, Steve Karsay, LaTroy Hawkins, and Kevin Brown.
Wally Backman would be the perfect fit for this team but the Wilpons don’t have the guts to make a move like this.
Unfortunately the talent level in the Div has gotten better and much of the Mets have deteriorated. In the NL East pick the best player at each Position, C – McCann, 1B- Howard, 2B-Utley, 3B-Jones, SS-Ramirez, LF-??? am i forgetting somebody, CF-Beltran, RF-Church, Mets and Braves appear to be close in SP and bullpens are a crap shoot. Wagner is the best closer in the Division. The point is, the Mets had many of the best players in Div a couple years ago. Now not so much. This Div will be tough to win, unless evreyone contributes. The Braves did that this last series, and the Mets have yet to do it outside of Yankee Stadium. There is time but the clock is ticking.
Of course Omar is just as much to blame(these are his players).
He relied on age (with no back up plan) and lost.
Delgado was a shell of himself last year and nothing was done about it(no back up plan at first base-how about Millar or Sean Casey). Castillo came to the Mets with a bum leg/knee and was GLADLY GIVEN A 4 YEAR DEAL(WITH NO COMPETITION).
Alou, Pedro and Duque were counted on to play a large portion of the season although they haven’t over the past 2 years.
and the back of the bullpen was left to Sanchez (who hasn’t pitched in 1 1/2 years) and Heilman with no improvement.
Also the bench has no power lefty or righty.
After the Santana deal Omar rested on his laurels.
So yeah Omar is to blame big time.
I’ve said all along if Willie goes Omar should go right with him.
How about Maz as the manager and the ( wrongly fired) Reds GM to come in for Omar.
Fire willie. Fire Delgado. Kidnap Texiera and make him our 1st baseman.
I love Keith as much as the next guy, you ladies know what I’m talking about, but lest we forget, in 86 he was in the clubhouse getting ready to tie one on. Willie for all his faults can’t be accused of quitting before it’s over. That said, a new manager may be a shot in the arm, but Mazz/Keith/Wally may be to close to the situation as in they are former Mets. How about someone fresh and new, from some Double AA club in Nebraska or something. Where’s Roy Hobbs?
this time last year…….
New York- 29-16
Atlanta- 27-19
Philadelphia- 23-23
Florida- 22-24
Washington- 18-29
we all know what happened last year… i wouldn’t be worrying quite yet.
I’d like to bring back the discussion on how a manager can spark his team by sticking-up for his team and getting ejected from a game.
Willie lost another chance to gain New York support when his cross-town skipper decided to take my advice and show some emotion — ending with Girardi getting tossed from yesterday’s game. Oh, who won that game by the way? Oh again, who’s currently winning 13-2 right now? That’s right, Girardi’s NY Yankees is who.
I surely hope that Willie can at least consider arguing a call with some emotion — and not continue to sit on his hands while the team racks-up losses. David Wright should not be the spokesperson right now.
Great, we’re only in the first-inning and O. Perez is pouting on the mound.
I don’t remember the last-time I was so disgusted watching this team — not counting the end of last-season.
The team is playing so poorly that I’m even starting to believe Gary Cohen and crew has given-up on this team. They don’t have much to discuss other than the other team putting-up runs and shutting-down the Mets. I guess they can’t be blamed.