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The Game:
The Mets (23-25) open a three-game series versus the first place Marlins (29-20) tonight at Shea Stadium, starting at 7:10 pm EST.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Luis Castillo
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- C Brian Schneider
- LF Nick Evans
- RF Endy Chavez
- P Mike Pelfrey
The Pitchers:
RHP Mike Pelfrey (2-5, 5.00 ERA) starts for the Mets.
RHP Ricky Nolasco (3-3, 4.62 ERA) takes the hill for the Marlins
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen locally on SNY and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.
…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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Wow, what a change
Here goes nothing.
what did you expect
SOME SHAKE UP IN LINEUP GET CREATIVE
expectations are the building blocks of disappointment
Why isnt Ryan Church back in the lineup!?!
he was dizzy yesterday…or something.
brain no work good
ha.
Too busy perfecting his Jimmy “Superfly” Snooka routine.
Let’s go BIG PELF!!!
Crossroads….lets see how they play. Just as lackluster as always i would assume….
If you can not get juiced up to play this Florida team, which obvously loves beating the Mets, and is leading the division, then this team will never wake up.
i think i’d rather have willie playing second at this point. he’s gotta be able to hit as well as castillo and it’ll allow somebody else to make managerial decisions.
lol… i half way agree. castillo should definately NOT be batting 2nd!!!!
let’s predict. I say Pelf last’s 4 innings, allows 5 runs, walks 5.
If they don’t go on a tear now, this team will never respond to willie. This is either the beginning of the end(they just aren’t good), a reawakening(go back to 06 mets) or they have already conceded defeat(bye bye omar and willie, you didn’t get the job done).
This would be a great time to start a bench clearing brawl.
You got to agree with that.
This team? These players would get their collective butts kicked in a brawl, too. Who would you pick to win a fight?
i sure wouldnt want you as my “kornerman”
Why do you hurt me, Michael? I’ve always been loyal to you.
no one gets their butts kicked in a brawl. its all nonsense.
but at least it would wake this team up from its month long snooze.
ventura did
jerry manuel?
Jerry Manuel would do much better than Don Zimmer.
these p*ssies couldn’t beat up a group of marshmellow salesmen.
yeah, Wagner goes after Delgado
whudda-ya-say we act like “fans” and show some support for at least 5-6 innings.
LETS GO METS……. we havent all given up on ya!!!
I’ll do it, but I wont like it.
x2.
If the game was on here I’d boo at my tv. I might do it anyway.
oh my god
good job Pelf…. clap-clap-clap
WTF Reyes???????????????
the booing was too loud, that’s why he dropped it
BOOOOOOOOOO
Get your head out of your ass Jose!!!!!!!!!!
That run better not score, the crowd will explode
and so it goes….
Here it comes….
Ive never seen that before……..its good the players are responing to Willie
All the ownership did was get the players off the hook for a couple more weeks
The lack of any accountability at Shea continuuuuuues.
You know what, GOOD, screw this, I hope the Mets get their asses kicked until the ownership is forced to get rid of this manager.
lol swept by the Marlins anyone?
Sweet…..
Another run caused by a Reyes error. I don’t know about the rest of you but Reyes’ “I don’t give a sh*t” attitude is a major part of the Mets problem. He’s starting to become a cancer to this team. I love the guy but his mental mistakes and immaturity are killing this team.
just because Reyes makes a error, Pelfrey has to fall apart, he can’t pick up a teammate?
I’ll change my prediction, Pelf last’s 3 innings…
lol. one more run, I’m shutting this.
game over
here we go again
It’s not Willie’s fault that Pelfrey sucks. Lefties hitting .386 against him? C’mon, man.
Is it Willie’s fault that Jose is f-ing up? Do you want him to sit Jose?
Yes… i want him to sit every damn player that doesn’t show heart. Sit delgado, reyes, beltran and castillo for a night to send a message.
that’s true, without a doubt he should sit delgado and reyes. not because they are playing poorly, but because they keep making mental mistakes. that can be avoided, sit their ass and make a statement already! do something if you are the manager of this team
Why should he hold the players accountable? Nobody held him or anybody else accountable for The Collapse…nor was he held accountable today. Accountability is a dirty word at Shea.
that’s true, but we all need to come to grips with the fact that willie isn’t going anywhere. and he isn’t a good enough manager to make some tactical changes to the team or mechanical changes. so at least do something motivational and bench some key players when they make mental mistakes. that’s the sort of thing that MUST stop if this team is to turn things around. these errors and baserunning blunders have got to stop.
Sit Reyes? You guys are geniuses. We have no back-up shortstop. Who are you going to play at shortstop?
it’s a statement man, it makes sense, it’s the sort of thing a team needs as a kick in the ass. who cares who replaces him for a night or two, it’s a statement, that’s the point. it’s obvious that everything else willie is doing isn’t working, so why not give it a shot. every time a guy gets picked off leading, or makes a stupid error, bench him. of course these things happen to players, but none as much as this team. seems every game there are 1+ errors and some other stupid mental mistakes.
You guys are the same ones complaining that Willie is not trying to win every game.
Exactly. Willie’s playing to win a game tonight. He’s going to play his best players. If he didn’t play Jose tonight, the Wilpons would fire him and justifiably so.
And, by the way, again, who would play shortstop instead of Jose? Please answer that question, Willie-haters!
you just don’t get it
Let Easley play SS and Tatis at 2b or visa versa.
Right, you really do want Willie fired don’t you. LOL
Great. Not even sure why I keep tuning in. I’m sure Reyes will come out and pop up to the SS on the first pitch. You watch.
why is reyes smiling???
How long have you watched him play. He always deals with adversity that way.
Because he knows it’s not his fault. I’m not saying it’s Willie’s fault, though. It’s Rickey’s fault. And Rick Down’s too. The Mets always hold people accountable.
I’m rooting for Evans. Got nothing else to do.
Bench Reyes now!
No wait, now
C’mon guys. We haven’t even picked up a bat! 2 runs isn’t insurmountable.
Have a little faith. Let’s Go Mets!
Faith in this team??? Sorry I lost it last September.
I think that Reyes needs to be drug tested right now. I remember watching Dwight Gooden wiping his nose a l;ot just before he went into drug treatment. Reyes either has a cold or is doing something else..
If you played on this team and had all this junk going on around you, you would either be doing drugs or crying too.
I’m doing drugs as we speak.
Again, username “Daryl Strawberry” is an ass.
Do you have anything constructive to add beyond calling people names?
Reyes WAS the face and energy of this team. His two errors have now cost us 5 runs in two games. He exits the field smiling. I’m sorry but he needs to be benched. I bet he’ll strike out to start the bot of the 1st or pop up.
Good call, ass.
JOSE JOSE JOSE JOSE!
you sound like an ass
sweet!
2nd game in a row that Jose makes a killer error tht leads to runs that shouldn’t have scored, and a bunch of extra pitches thrown?
Although it was nice to see Delgado actually leave the ground. I didn’t think he could do it.
Have to figure this game is over, but let’s see how the offense looks in the first.
couple of quick points:
1) DW does look like he is heading for a nervous breakdown. I feel sorry for the poor guy.
2) Pedro needs to get back, and now. If his latest BP or simulated game goes well, just give him Pelfreys next start. Send Pelf down to AAA, and leave him there until he learns how to pitch (and finds something that can get lefties out).
Was there a lot of booing before the first pitch? I’m not subjecting myself to actually watching the game.
a mix, it’s a holiday crowd
Look at that ass, he is still smilling.
Lol lol lol lol here comes the granny
wow! nice!
how bout more than a run in this situation for once
nope, of course not
This will not be a pitchers duel.
Look at Beltran, he was smilling too. Ass.
a comeback!
It’s a Festivus miracle!
I got a few problems with these people!!
Someone in the dugout needs to wrestle willie to the ground and pin him so festivus can end and we can get a new manager.
LOL. Airing of grievances = Metsblog comments section.
The Mets must have the only clean up hitter that would bunt. And not when the pitcher is doinating, but when he is struggling…
Even worse, it loads the bags for Delgado. Guess CB hasn’t been paying attention.
i knew someone would complain…its a hit, shut up!
Prob. the same one who is preaching for Delgado to bunt.
no, just a fan who likes seeing hits no matter how they come. beggars cant be choosers.
I was refering to stickguy.
Fact remains: bases juiced, no outs = one run for the Mets.
Same fecal matter, different day.
Nice to see them show some life though…and even better to see Pelf have a clean 2nd inning.
come on kid.
youre an ass
You just called a guy a name for cheering on the rookie?
Wow. I thought I was a negative fan in a bad mood.
So we’ve got a $100mil+ bunter passing the buck to deldisastro!
Outstanding.
its called 5 tools. hes not a pure power hitter
I count more that 5 in this line up.
(thanks for the setup though)
i would laugh, but it wasnt funny.
Whatever, if the Mets couldn’t do any better than 1 run with the bases juiced and no outs, what difference does it make?
Big deal. That inning showed me nothing. Reyes homerun and then three straight hits resulting in two runs. Wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t score for the rest of the game. Pelfrey had a long first inning and lefties just tee off against him.
die
have to say it again. bases loaded. no outs. one run. horrid.
Well, bases loaded, no outs, and they scored 1 run.
A big improvement! Could have been more if Deldono hadn’t swung at ball 3 on a 2-0 pitch.
yeah, that’s all too common.
NICE SNAG!!!
the mets won’t get another hit the rest of the game
shut up
I thing miker94’s trying to anger you
No, it’s reverse psychology . . . which works every time!!
You can’t win this game, this is just a venting post these days. It’s no longer a blog where intelligent people have conversations with other posters. Just give up and pick your battles.
You have GOT to understand the anger today of all days.
Why because mgmt did not cave in to a bunch of whinny fans that are acting like a bunch of hypocritical cry babies?
No, because nobody was held accountable, AGAIN.
I thought you had finally decided Willie should go?
How quickly you abandon your principles.
I still think he should. I really just don’t care and think it should end. But again, just stop whinning about it.
SNY just caught Willie clapping…………..the artist is at work, trying to paint a different picture of the manager.
the funnies Willie moment, in my opinion, is when they showed him holding the cup of water and then throwing it when something bad happened.
That was the Heilman HR i think?….that was amusing though
shut up
3 out of your last 4 posts have been calling people asses….or telling people to shut up.
Calm the eff down dude
That’s what happens when a rapid mob tries to force a firing.
LOL, understood……..be as angry as you want then.
Actually, I thought the media was disappointed that Willie wasn’t fired…….they sounded that way at the press conference anyway.
Exactly the majority of Mets fans either don’t care or want Willie to remain. It’s the vocal minority that is forcing a firing.
As were Mets fans.
Of course they’re disappointed. The firing of Willie would sell papers and get ratings!
Not real Mets fans, Gipper.
No, just the smart Mets fans Gipper
i love how everyone assumes that they are the only “real” mets fans…
No Glider I am sure there are quite a few real Mets fans who want Willie fired. However, there are quite a few who do not and some who just don’t care and want it all to end. This is an incredibly whinny fanbase right now.
I was upset at the way the media continued to harp on the matter……….constantly bringing up points at the press conference to Omar (I wish I remembered what it was now…..) where Omar was like….LOOK….Willie is the manager! Period!
It was almost like they were trying to convince him to fire willie
Nothing better than controversy in NY. Matt, as much as I love his blog, makes a living off of it.
I think its time to DL Church. Listening to Burkhart’s report on him is downright scary……..he just needs 2 weeks off.
What did they say about him?
Doesn’t remember pinch hitting in games………..
Passed on interview until he “felt better”…..and hasn’t felt better as of yet.
Basically, he’s loco at the moment. Flights to/from Denver really were unhelpful. Doesn’t even remember pinch-hitting yesterday. Going to see a specialist tomorrow…probably better off on DL.
Typical Mets luck – our one bright spot so far and his brain gets scrambled. Let’s hope the cobwebs clear soon.
jose!!!!!
paint me stunned…nice hitting reyes!
leadoff man with 2 homers, cleanup man with a bunt single. WTF?
LOOK GUYS! NO MORE HITS
Holly crap, how can he still be smilling. Does he not realize he commited an error. Ass.
So, Jose should sit. Miker and FIRE Willie????? Such incisive insight from the both of you!
again, you just don’t get it, you fool!
I don’t get it, please enlighten me…
Ha. Where’s Miker94 now? Hiding in his closet no doubt. Hey Miker, I wouldn’t want to be in a fox hole with you, pal.
What do you not get fool? Not everyone in the fanbase thinks the way you do.
Calm down there JDuelz if you would actually read and respect the posters on here you would notice that I am or was until now on your side.
I think JDuelz has proven his observational skills, reading comprehension and intellect in this little exchange alone. Attacking his ally! LOL
LOL
And Gipp I am proud this is your second post of 81 today not complaining about Willie.
If you were on my side, then I thank you. If you still are, then I commend you for overseeing my idiocy.
Hah, sorry, it’s hard to see where people stand on these comments now-a-days, and with all the BS floating around here, I just can’t keep up with who’s who, even though I do recall your username on here for quite some time now (not that I consider myself a pioneer on here by any means).
P.S. Gipper, I believe I overreacted, but you have to see where I’m coming from when it at first seemed as if he was trying to get me…
It’s no prob. JDulez but I try to be respectful to all of the posters on here.
No worries, JDuelz, you just seemed to be doing more namecallinng than constructive comments today and I thought it hysterical that you jumped ugly with TRS86.
Miker94, where are you?
AT this rate Reyes will hit 9 Homeruns in the game. Put it in the books. Florida cant beat that kind of performance.
what a sarcastic prick…. you might as well jump over to to the other NY team.
Dare we hope?
wright and reyes are the key to this offense!!!!
Look at the Mets… what’s going on tonight… Cheerleader Willie probably told them to B-E A-G-R-E-S-S-I-V-E
FIER WILLEY!
Very funny… I think Delgado was talking about you when he made the comment.
Didn’t you want Willie to sit Josey???? Great move, man. You know so much about baseball it’s scary.
It’s not about tonight, it’s about the entire season. You’d probably jump if Willie told you to.
EXACTLY! great point
They need to keep putting pressure on Nolasco. He is definitely hittable.
Miker, where ARE you??????
He’s a troll, he only comes out from under the bridge when the Mets are losing. He will turn to a big pile of poo if he post when they are winning.
listen genius, it’s obvious that you’ve never played on a baseball team and/or coached one. i’ve done both for many, many years and what i’m saying makes sense. and if you would actually open your mind and pay attention, you’ll understand what i’m trying to say. i am not saying, nor would I ever say that benching reyes or delgado or whomever, is something that will make this team win. would it have an adverse effect and actually produce even worse results, probably! but the point is that the way things are going with this team, it’s obvious that something must change. it’s what every single person on this site has been saying for weeks now. the decision was made today that willie is staying, so a new manager is out of the question. wilie has shown that he can’t mechanically or tactilly make any drastic changes in game or out to make the players better and he’s shown that he hasn’t really been able to motivate his team into playing better either. and i’d say that we all understand that him kicking buckets and throwing things isn’t the answer either. therefore, on a team that keeps making mental mistakes over and over and over, maybe it’s time to bench a few guys. this might be the only thing that motivates them to get their heads into the game a little more. and not just benching guys for one mistake, but ones like getting picked off due to lack of focus or other mental mistakes. the only reason people here are freaking out because of a statement like , “bench reyes,” is ONLY because he already hit 2 HR’s. if he popped up to the 3rd basemen twice already, every one of you would be agreeing with me. which says a lot, but perhaps you may not understand that. bottom line is, a change is needed with this team and everything that has been done to date has not worked, for over a full year now. so why not do something else, something drastic? it can’t get any worse can it? and i’d bet anything the wilpons would back willie up if he did it. not for a month, just a few games. make a statement already.
The problem is that benching him is not going to make him better. It’s not like he is trying to lose.
i understand that, and you are right, it won’t make him better, and i know he is not trying to lose, but it’s a mental thing. sit him down, maybe he gets mad and takes a different approach to the game and gets a little more serious. i’m not saying it will work, but why not try? nothing else seems to be working
Do you bench Wagner for blowing a save? Or maybe just bench him to bench him. Nothing else has worked. Maybe Wright too?
no, see i knew you didn’t get it. wagner blowing a save isn’t a mental mistake that keeps happening over and over and over. same with wright. his throws to 1st are a mechanical thing, not a mental thing. how can you not be following me here?
LOL. You get to decide what is mechanical and mental. That’s great. So if a basketball player misses a freethrow is it mental or mechanical. Is it nature vs. nurture?
you are getting all technical here. listen, when a player is leading off 2nd and gets picked off without even making an attempt to get back to 2nd, it’s cause he is not paying attention, that’s mental. when a player swings at the 1st pitch over and over and over, and the end result is almost always a pop up, that’s mental. making a mistake like grounding out or throwing a bad pitch or bobbling a groundball is mechanical, those things happen. i’m just saying, have you heard any other solutions to this teams’ problems? willie keeps saying that there is a problem and, “we have to do something to fix it,” but what is “something?” he keeps saying that, but offers no solution. and if he is working on some solution, it sure as hell isn’t working. again, i’m not saying that benching players WILL solve the problems, but it can’t get things any worse and maybe, just maybe it will light a fire under the entire teams’ asses and maybe things might turn around. again, what else is being done to fix things? nothing!
Again, you have no idea what is being done. I am sure Willie is trying things and Omar is on the phone trying to improve the team. It’s just not working.
well that’s obvious, and you are right again, i do not know what is being done. but again, whatever it is, it doesn’t work. the only thing we DO know is that benching players has not been one of the things willie has tried. either way, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Church needs to go on the DL, even though there is obviously no replacement available (Casanova called up for Alou). Concussions are nothing to fool around with and can go way beyond baseball games. He needs time to get the cobwebs out and the team needs a warm body.
sometimes I like to wave back to the morons who wave to the tv cameras. It’s something to do.
seriously…they really bug me
Sounds like they should bring up Valentin,
has he aged enough?
hahaa Dusty Baker…the only Manager worse than Willie Randolph.
Agreed.
The guy ruined Wood and Pryor’s careers
BRAWL!
Somebody teach this guy an out pitch
good job pelf… F him
BRAWl!!!
Pelfrey really can not throw any off-speed pitches for strikes. Its absurd how he can be a major league pitcher.
and he aint worth anything anymore so we cant trade him
He must not be following Peterson’s pitching triangle
Gonzo had 57 homers in one season. He wasn’t on the juice though…..and Willie Randolph is in MENSA
sigh
Game over.
Are you and Mike under the same bridge? You did not post a single post while we were winning, but now you come back on when we are losing to proclaim AGAIN that the game is over.
wow what a lucky bloop.
damn
Shoulda gotten a live chicken.
not even your Major League reference could put a smile on my face. The Mets aren’t just bad, they have an ownership who refuse to accept the problem
Is May too early for a Willie Randolph night?
I think the ownership is at least part of the problem.
i have to say it again. two outs. no one on. 3 more runs scored.
4 runs. that almost seems impossible, unless you’re trying to give up runs. crowd sounds too abgry to even boo.
He needs to be sent down. He is so not ready to pitch in the big leagues. Bring back Figueroa.
nothing changes with this team.
Sickening. This team just finds ways to lose every game. Whether the offense sputters or the pitchers can’t find the strike zone and constantly allow runs to score with two outs. It’s going to get to the point soon that the whole team needs to be dismantled. However they will stay stubborn and continue to put this poor product on the field.
F**k THE MARLINS . START A FIGHT NOW. THEY HATE THE METS
Losing…….is a disease.
and Bobby V’s the cure*
*Cobra
wrong. but not really.
as contagious…as polio….
as contagious..as bubonic plague
herpes
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AAAHHHHHH !@#$%^&!@#$%
what else is new
wow this team sucks.
heilman up in the 3rd can you say starter?
way to finish them off mike. unreal. i hoped that maybe today would be the start of something…they have fooled me yet again
The problem is wthere is so much money invested in this team. You can’t trade the guys with overpriced salaries. It’ll take a long time to rebuild the farms. We’re stuck with this sheit.
Heilman warming up.
It’s almost as if Willie has already planned his mid-summer European vacation.
Well, after all, where better to sip that ever sweetening Champagne than in France in, say, July.
Seriously, why isn’t Church on the DL??
If he can’t remember playing the other day, he shouldn’t be playing. This is insane. I know the guy is a gamer, but two brutal concussions within two months could do lasting damage.
I’ve been very patient with Mike Pelfrey, as I am with most Met prospects, but he is not ready to pitch every fifth day in the majors. He lacks an out pitch and is extremely inconsistent.
Mike Pelfrey is a bust. How many more lessons in what not to throw major league hitters do we have to suffer through as a collective fanbase.
I think the ownership has to have another meeting, this time with the whole team. They can have a discussion about their feelings regarding Willie’s racial comments. That’s the jolt the team needs.
Offense doing its part and once again Pelf cant get it done. When is it enough to send him down and get some work? Bring up someone that will keep us in the game and prehaps go beyond 5 innings.
What’s the point, then the offense wouldn’t do anything. They’re like the see-saw of sht.
Any booing yet?
I would not want to be around for Willie Randolph bobblehead night
every single willie head will end up on the field.
Is it a bobble-head or a bobble-gut?
Or a pull the cord to talk Willie doll?…”The Champagne will taste that much sweeter.” Pull cord again, “Just need to get into a nice litte rhythm.” Pull cord again, “What the heck is a double-switch?”
2/82
My bad 2/83 I missed at least 1.
The Mets rushed Pelfrey. He never got a chance to develop properly. Now who knows if he ever will.
I’ve never seen the pre-Peterson Pelfrey. But from what I understand, he was a power pitcher. Then Peterson got his hands on him and started tinkering with his natural approach to pitching.
Who knows what option is better. But what is clear is that he doesn’t have the marbles upstairs to take on Peterson’s instructions, nor downstairs to deal with pressure.
its not even the team tonight. Pelfrey SUX!!!!!!
WHY WASNT THE JACKET FIRED????????????
OUR PITCHING HAS BOMBED FOR A STRAIGHT WEEK!!!!!!!!
If he can fix Zambrano in 10 minutes why can’t he fix Pelfrey.
Our hitting has bombed for a year.
game over guys, we’ll get ‘em tomorrow
the bats will go to sleep as they always do
Yes, “Heart of the Lineup,” lie down like dogs…
call me a non-believer if you want, but since the team has not come back trailing by three runs all season, i just don’t see it happening tonight. maybe, big maybe, if they didn’t give up any more runs, but, come on.
my only question is will they look dead over the next 4 innings only to score a token run or two late in the game after they give up another two field goals.
2008-05-26 20:10:18
from above, just in case “the glider” didn’t read it yet.
listen genius, it’s obvious that you’ve never played on a baseball team and/or coached one. i’ve done both for many, many years and what i’m saying makes sense. and if you would actually open your mind and pay attention, you’ll understand what i’m trying to say. i am not saying, nor would I ever say that benching reyes or delgado or whomever, is something that will make this team win. would it have an adverse effect and actually produce even worse results, probably! but the point is that the way things are going with this team, it’s obvious that something must change. it’s what every single person on this site has been saying for weeks now. the decision was made today that willie is staying, so a new manager is out of the question. wilie has shown that he can’t mechanically or tactilly make any drastic changes in game or out to make the players better and he’s shown that he hasn’t really been able to motivate his team into playing better either. and i’d say that we all understand that him kicking buckets and throwing things isn’t the answer either. therefore, on a team that keeps making mental mistakes over and over and over, maybe it’s time to bench a few guys. this might be the only thing that motivates them to get their heads into the game a little more. and not just benching guys for one mistake, but ones like getting picked off due to lack of focus or other mental mistakes. the only reason people here are freaking out because of a statement like , “bench reyes,” is ONLY because he already hit 2 HR’s. if he popped up to the 3rd basemen twice already, every one of you would be agreeing with me. which says a lot, but perhaps you may not understand that. bottom line is, a change is needed with this team and everything that has been done to date has not worked, for over a full year now. so why not do something else, something drastic? it can’t get any worse can it? and i’d bet anything the wilpons would back willie up if he did it. not for a month, just a few games. make a statement already.
You lost me when you talked yourself up.
Who has time to read it twice. If he wanted to read it once that would be bad enough. I know I wasted a good minute of my life that I can never get back reading that garbage. You owe me a minute MIke.
give me a break, you know it makes sense you are just being to stubborn to admit it.
too stubborn, sorry
i’ll second that.
Do the Wilpons even like the Mets?
I know the Dodgers are their favorite team. Maybe they bought the Mets just for the hell of it, and decided to turn them into a circus.
That’s pretty much the only explanation I can come up for why the Wilpons are happy to flush $130 million down the toilet like this. They seem content that this disaster will just go on indefinitely.
LOL…I’m surprise they could pull Fred away from his neverending search to find more Dodgers and NY (baseball) Giants names to use for naming sections of Citi Field.
I mean, seriously…..”Coogan’s Landing,” “the Ebbets Club,” “the Orchard”, oy vey. How about naming some things in the new state-of-the-art Mets stadium for, I dunno, former Mets greats and Mets history?
Anyway, evidently freddy was still combing the history books and watching Ken Burns’ baseball documentaries even during the meeting today – it’s the only explanation for his failure to remember to fire our delusional manager.
It is pretty pathetic that the Mets are so preoccupied with an extinct team that they have no connection with.
It’s bad when you have no faith in your team’s players, but it’s downright frightening when you have zero faith in all three levels of the Mets hierarchy
Oh, won’t somebody think of the children!
so close
Pelfrey is the most unintimidating 6-foot-7 man I have ever seen. I know he hasn’t had his fair share of time in the minors, but the guy just doesn’t have that look of a confident pitcher. The Mets thought he would one day have the makings of an ace or at least a No. 2? I highly doubt that will ever happen. They always tout him as a ground ball pitcher, yet it seems the ground balls he gets are one that go down the line for doubles.
looks about right…or at least business as usual.
6 runs. 5 hits. 6 runs with 2 outs. bases loaded. 2 outs. 3 in.
3 runs. 6 hits. 0 runs with 2 outs. bases loaded. 0 outs. 1 in.
they can’t do it on offense. they can’t stop it on defense. this has been the story for the 08 mets.
When was the last time the Mets were 6 games out of 1st place?!?!?!
don’t you mean 7?
or am i getting too ahead of myself?
I have spent much of my life with the Mets at that point or worse….and it’s sad to see them regressing to the 90s, the mid-seventies through early 80s, etc, etc….pick your craptastic Mets era.
i am sure i will get ripped for this, but it was actually more fun to root and watch those poor teams (although i was not around for some of those you mention) becuase they did not have so much talent and you could just watch and root for something good to happen and be genuinely excited when it did.
this team is just not fun to watch right now. so much talent just not getting it done. dumb play. lazy play. no fundamentals. everyone goes back to 06, but it fits, they were playing smart, showing fire and getting it done. if they were down 4 in the 7th, i thought they were going to come back, and quote often they did. this year, if they are up 4 in the 7th (which has been rare) i fear they will lose, and it seems often they have.
that said. i still hope.
I’d take loveable losers over this bunch of geriatric hacks anyday.
better get some runs soon.. b/c we know that if it’s past the 6th inning.. they can’t come back.
this team has been playing sub .500 ball for more than a year now. so.. does that mean all those rosy optimists are no longer on this site?
omar is as much to blame for this $137 million disaster as is willie as are the players. after this team could not scratch out a run in that 6th inning AFTER endy’s amazing catch.. the fact that they could not beat suppan or weaver ONCE!!!! the fact they followed up that disappointment (when they were clearly the best) with 3 months of little hitting during summer 2007 and then of course.. the collapse…
what can we really expect to change? stop buying into ‘win now’ – that NEVER WORKS. ticket prices rise.. production on the field declines. i’d rather see a TEAM be put together.. and not a bunch of Bustrans.
Beltran homered off Weaver and won the first game of the ‘06 NLDS. Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.
not a jerk. you’re right.
they scored a whopping 2 runs and won.. Bustran homered. then they proceeded to score 3 runs combined off him and Suppan.
all i am saying is.. after that catch.. at home.. bases juiced and one out after that.. NYY win that game. AZ and FLA win that game.. BOS wins that game. and even STL wins that game.. I guess world champions win that game.. but to me.. that has always spoke to something bigger.. in terms of what’s missing. then their encore was magnificent.
I don’t what my point is.. but.. the makeup of this team.. is tired.
This makes me want to cry. They look pumped and then they’re let down.
I hope this doesn’t get ugly.. Its starting to look like another long night. SNY better not cut away when willie walks out to the mound..
How is this the 2nd best team in MLB2K8?
I’m not surprised, Omar builds his team like its a video game.
because you’re the manager.
ha
I garanttee you hunter doesn’t let that liner get by him. Beltran isn’t the best CF in baseball fielding wise and certainly not hitting wise.
Good to see Ramirez doing his JOse Reyes impersonation.
MOVE REYES TO SECOND AND TRADE FOR KAZ MATSUI SO HE CAN PLAY SS RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
while you’re at it…..why don’t you just break into my condo, take all my cold Stella, and kick my dog on your way out?
Well Remirez is hitting 320 and has about 40 runs scored and 11 SBs
….and now Reyes does his Tanner Boyle impersonation.
Heilman? O god
“I am proud to be an A-me-ri-can cause at least I know I’m freeeee”
Thanks Mets, for getting that song stuck in my head
everybody clap your hands…
its been stuck in my head for 2 years
…and the Phillies keep scoring…
trollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
its funny but when you dont feed the trolls they usually go away….
So taguci is still killing teh mets
I used to think Reyes was the best young player in baseball and the best ss in the division. But he is a distant third now behind rollins and hanly with Escobar creeping up on him
Only problem is that Rollins is not young.
Hes 29
Not what you would consider a “young” player. Is Santana a “young” player?
Ater the Marlins sweep this series, we will be 8.5 games out of first place.
After the Mets sweep this series they will be blah blah blah.
Can you stop with the predictions?
that’s not an error?
When did the marlins get Jones, i forgot?
Reyes is going down right now. hit the dirt.
Oh, please won’t somebody think of the children?
He still has the potential. I don’t think Willie has handeled him that well, telling him to stop the handshakes and benching him in Houston in the middle of a game.
Wait, I thought he was supposed to bench him?
Willie really can’t win, pun intended.
They should send pelfrey down to new orleans with heilman he is flat out brutal, I thought having schneider back was suppose to help him, he has been a bust!
his two starts with castro were decent
that’ll kill a rally
The mets can’t string hits together. They had chemistry in 2006. Where has it gone?
Castillo……yep, that sounds about right.
HAHAHAHA so awful…and here comes Heilman time. its going to get a lot worse.
I know that rebuilding is a 4 letter word in NY, but does anybody really think that there is a chance to win with this bunch. The ship for this team sailed in 2006. I think it is time to have an auction and see if the ship can be righted for 2010 or 11. Keep Reyes, Wright and Santana and put the rest of the team on sale. I bet Beltran would be valuable as he will excel outside NY (you can almost guarantee that). Wagner might bring something at the deadline because the good teams need relief all the time. Alou might be a decent DH. Unfortunately, there would likely be little demand for anyone else. I doubt Castillo or Delgado would be worth anything no matter how much $$$ the Mets throw in. Maybe Feliciano brings something in July as well. Nobody wants to rebuild, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet. The Marlins do it all the time, and pretty well. It starts with Willie and Omar getting the boot so rebuilding can start fresh. Omar made this mess and can’t be trusted to fix it.
Noone will take Beltrans rediculous contract, and he is one of Omar’s guys anyway. They need hard nose players not named castillo.
they might with some money and maybe taking a contract back. depends on what the mets are willing to pay. I really think Beltran will be good if he gets out of here. He was excellent with Houston and KC
I suppose 74 homers and 228 RBI and two Gold Gloves over the last two seasons makes him a bad player? I’d really like to see what a good player is then.
ive been wanting to rebuild for the past 6 months now…
to do that Omar must go.
Other than Church and possibly Wagner, I don’t see us getting much for anyone else on the team.
And if they’re going to rebuild the first thing they should do is completely revamp our farm system, because we seem to have major issues with scouting and player development.
wow, luis castillo sure was a great sign
how come he can’t bunt there? at least wright would have been up
bring carlos muniz
Pelfrey’s sinker doesn’t actually sink, it moves a 1/4″ inch to the right batters box
to me.. it’s Pelfrey’s head that’s the problem. and unfortunately.. i don’t know if it can be fixed any time soon. definitely not up at this level.
Why the hell is castillo still batting 2nd. I don’t care if he has two hits today. Thats like the 5th time in the last week he’s grounded into a double play when we had a rally going.
You just beat me to this. Mr. Kill a Rally strikes again with the GIDP cr*p. Unbelievable…
pelfrey doesnt have the stuff to be a starter. his transition to the bullpen should start ASAP.
That’s actually a pretty good idea. He could dump the secondary pitches and go back to power for an inning or two.
Heilman’s Line:
2.2 IP 7H 5 ER 0K 3BB
Heilman! yes!!!!!
Do I dare say that Aaron looks good tonite?
I doubt we will score again this game. The Marlins bullpen has been terrific. Oh and my predictions are most of the time true, realsince86. Then again it’s kind of easy to predict this team since everything has gone wrong since Sept. 07.
It’s much easier to predict a loss when you only come on when they are… losing. Also, if I remember earlier this season you predicted getting swept by the Yankee’s and the Phillies. How did that go?
haven’t posted in a year.. come back tonight.. and you’re still whining.
win.. loss.. what is this team inspiring for anyone right now?
where has their ability to comeback gone? trailing past the sixth.. this team has comeback once this season.
people are rightfully frustrated.. optimism for the sake of it.. is misguided. reality is.. this team has not played what it’s capable of for ONE SOLID YEAR. and they keep getting older.. slower.. more fragile.. and less exciting.
i just want to see some inspiring consistent good baseball.. haven’t seen any since may 2007.
You have not posted in a year and you still come back whinning?
I know its obvious but Luis Castillo for 28mill was almost as bad as the kasmir trade
25 but why let facts get in the way.
You’re really getting worked up over 3 mil? Geez…chill out
TRS86, this is not the night to be antagonizing fans.
I would say that’s reaching. We can afford to eat Castillo’s contract, not saying we will but we can and at the time thats what Castillo’s market value was. We can’t just magically make another young future ace appear, which is evident by the disasters that were/are Humber and Pelfrey.
After this game Heliman and Pelfrey ned to be optioned to AAA in favor of Armas Jr. and Muniz.
I can’t think of a better message to send to these players than to cut Castillo right now.
Oh…you have a 4 year contract? Ok…but you arent getting the job done. Hit the road. If there really was a market for this guy in the offseason, than Omar should have some level of confidence in some team picking him and his contract up off of waivers.
Castillo is not the problem, his OBP is one of the better ones on the team and he has the least amount of K’s. He has been close to what is expected, pick on Reyes, Wright, and Beltran.
i honestly have never understood your allegiance to Castillo and you constantly using his OBP as justification.
There is more to this game than just OBP.
But not for your #2 hitter. That is the most important thing, that and not striking out.
I do not think he is an allstar just a role player. My point still is that he is not the problem.
Seriously, where do you get your material from? sources please.
What material or sources are you refering to? I am stating a well know fact in baseball knowledge that you want an high contact high OBP guy batting 2nd? Look around the NL and see.
I don’t know what material and sources. That is why I am asking you.
“That is the most important thing, that and not striking out.”
I am speaking in reference to that statement. And that statement alone.
It’s just common baseball knowledge. Come on. Like I said look around the league at common #2 hitters.
Luis Castillo’s career OBP is actually a few points higher than Edgardo Alfonzo.
Who would you rather have batting 2nd?
Right now?
thank you.
Again that’s not a fair question. Alfonzo was one of our stars then. Castillo is a role player. My point is that he is not the problem on this team.
JOe Crede should be the mets 1st baseman next year. Rowand called him teh clutchest player he’s ever played with:
Clutcher then Rollins , Utley, Howard, Dye ect…
He is like Ryan church a hard nose player
since1986….you wanna take this one?
LOL that one does not even need a response.
Obviously you stole this Crede idea from Evan Roberts’ show this afternoon.
He’s on my fantasy team. Even roberts isn’t really a sports analyst, he only talks about chicks. Its the radio version of MTV
Plus Joe Cree won’t cost as much as texiera whoi will be like delgado towards the end of the contract.
are you serious??? money is no object to the mets.
we need a guy who is guarenteed .280 30 HR 100 RBIs and is under the age of 28.
Texiera is 30 and will be like delgado in the back end of the contract, plus we need to sign 3 pitchers.
This is Aaron’s last chance to shine.
I say bring him down make him a starting pitcher, trade him for some talent in left field, 1st base, or catcher. Cause Alou and Delgado are old, and Brian is not great.
Credes nickname in Chicago is Late inning Joe
are “clutchest” and “clutcher” real words?
Heilman’s great when the game is over.
I just heard the words “Solid inning from Aaron Heilman”…
Last Chance, until the 6th then we are done.
You’re right I’m not always right, but this team has given me no reason to have faith. I’m just jaded man. Been watching this team too long. Surrounded by Yankee fans everyday. This sucks.
Yes it does suck but why come on here and try and break the few Mets fans that still have hope?
misery loves company?
Actually i think heilman would be better as a starter. He has the stuff, plus he’s usually pretty good coming in at the beggining of an inning as opposed to with runners on base. I wouldn’t mind giving him a shot.
Some teams still view him as a starter, they must see something. I think if we wanted to we could also trade him for another bullpen arm, because of that reason.
We need to chip away here!
The next 3 run comeback will be the first. Not much hope
Crede? It’s come to that? We can ask his agent, SCOTT BORAS. Maybe we’ll get a bargain. . . .
We need hard nose players, lke church.
Yes, we do. But Crede may not be the best fit. . . .
His track record as late inning’s joe speaks for itself
Where is that lone blooger who is a willie fan, who usually tells met fans to treet this team like the 27 yankees.
Metsarebest something like that
he signed off for the last time yesterday. he was my vote for the most annoying blogger ever
Shhhhhhh. Speak of the devil and who should appear?
Beaton?
6-3 is not that big of a deficit at all. But with this team, its like being down 10-3.
Time for another Delgado GIDP. Man I am jaded.
Ok gotta get at least 1 or 2 here. Cmon delgado keep it going.
Its like being Ralph nador in hopes of the precidency
You really need spell check man.
Sayeth Mr. “whinning” instead of “whining” at least three times today.
*It’s
*Nader
*Presidency
I’m more of a math science guy
Hands above the ball produces linedrives, just like I said. Oh and just like other coaches have said, I didnt invent it. Just always said it.
double steal….be aggressive
When the mets won in colorado Reyez castillo doublle stole to get things going. but this is willie randolph we are talking about
odds Delgado hits into a Double Play? 1:1?
At least it wasn’t a DP.
But Shneider can’t hit at all.
Last Chance, until the 6th then we are done. GIDP
delgadold and slow.. and stinky.
can’t wait until he is gone.
wow, and there in lies a huge problem with this team. 0 outs and delgado is taking ruthian HR cuts. We need to be more patient, then if we get a pitch to hit hammer it. But delgado should be looking the other way there.
Delgado’s rapid decline is what no one predicted.. and the most disturbing.
and .. you know.. he really doesn’t give a _____. you can hear it in his comments. he’s going through the motions. just pay me my $18 million.
delgado with his signature rally killing out
This is crazy!
That was a productive out because it wasn’t two outs. Way to go Carlos!
and more bad luck
schneider has phill collins for his walkup music…wow
two base stealing threats on, down by two, no-one in motion.
Wow how many balls have we hit directly at someone this season.
come on LETS GO METS LETS GO METS lol
The mets should play Johan santana at 1st base
come on kid
Jacobs would look pretty good at 1B right now. Can’t moan too much though, it looked good at the time and 2006 was almost worth it.
If he was playing for us he would have hit the runner in the back with the throw.
Delgado’s rapid decline is what no one predicted.. and the most disturbing.
and .. you know.. he really doesn’t give a _____. you can hear it in his comments. he’s going through the motions. just pay me my $18 million.
PA-Thet-IC
or should that be: Pa-Met-Ic
What did this ump all of a sudden expand the zone?
Wow can’t believe we couldnt’ get one right there.
Thats it, I’m making a pilgramige to Japan to cheer the Tokyo Giants, and there manager. They play the game right
Bye.
thats it game over. mets lose again
I wish I was at shea to boo willie
How is this Willie’s fault. Give the guy a brake. It’s not his fault fricking Pelfrey can’t pitch his way out of a paper bag, and His two best players in the outfield are hurt.
Ok, and your defense for the collapse, the pathetic play since, and his delusions about SNY and the fans?
This pitcher is awful and they still can’t hit him. I know it’s not Willie’s fault that the players suck, but doesn’t somebody have to take responsibility? Omar?
Jeff and Fred, maybe you need to glance across town. The hammer is always on those guys.
they’re in last place dude
Well Evans probably wont be playing tomorrow since he’s got an 0 for going, but Delgado can keep failing miserably and he will stay play!!
this is just a classic example of being only as good as your starting pitcher. Mets have had some bad plays, some lack of execution, and some bad luck but in the end that four spot which is ENTIRELY on Pelfrey is the killer
still play**
Everyone in that dugout. Everyone on this site. Anyone he plays for or roots for the Mets should be embarrassed.
This team is so painful to watch.
My intentions aren’t to break anyone. I’m just venting, which is perfectly exceptable on a blog. I don’t attack others and don’t break the rules of the site. So If you don’t like my posts then don’t read them.
No it was at one time not perfectly acceptable on this blog. But now that’s all it seems to be, so feel free.
before you came here, and seemingly brought all your friends with you, “just venting” wasn’t really the norm around here, it was kind of frowned upon, most people just talked baseball, good or bad.
Thanks Darkstar, I wish Matt would have 2 comment sections. Seriously.
Some of these guys on here make me actually miss Mr. Met and Firemetsm…..
pedroissavior and saviorispedro. you can’t forget those clowns.
or was that before your time?
No I have been here since the first few months. I was even around during Metsonline. Those guys were the same guys right?
i wasn’t around for metsonline, I think i got here right after they started up metsblog, either way, it sure has changed a lot. I mean, I still remember ellegirldetective and mrmet41, some real classic trollers.
I remember when you were considered the negative one. LOL.
You guys are proving your points wrong…we’ve always had ellegirldetctive and Mr. Met in his various guises and their ilk.
That said, you guys paint with a very broad brush when criticising fans who are down or negative at the moment as all being like the aforementioned tools. There are pleny of loyal, intelligent Mets who are simply at their wits end in the wake of The Collapse, Willie styaing thereafter and then today as the topper.
I was considered negative? wow, even I don’t remember that, I thought i’ve always been the rose-colored glasses Omar loving kool-aid drinking optimist on this site.
Honestly, Willie is bad, but what is he supposed to do? First and second no out for Delgado and he pops up. Bases loaded no out and he swings at a ball on 2-0 and only can muster a shallow sac fly. He has no choice put to put Pelfrey out there and he just sucks up the joint every time.
Willie definitely needs to go, but this team is just bad. It isn’t ALL Willie’s fault.
Agreed.
Don’t mean to sound like a Willie defender, but how would you like your job depending on Pelfrey and Heilman and this lineup? Man, I wouldn’t sleep very well.
exactly
this team needs to rebuild but apparently we need faded former all-stars for the opening of citi field.
What faded former allstars are you refering to? Delgado and Alou and Elduque and Pedro and Easley and…. will all be gone next season.
Every team has weaknesses
other teams have strengths
Hahaha….that may be the best summation of the plight of this team I have ever read.
Gary is great.
He just about called the team a bunch of quitters. Can’t say it out loud, but you know what he is thinking.
Heilman great again. You can tell the game is out of hand
Haha…No kidding, I knew he was going to shine tonight because the game was already getting out of hand. (Yes, 3 runs for the Mets is out of hand.)
I think he will excel in his new role as useless mop up man. As long as they never put him into a close game, he’ll be fine.
Its true. Its obviously not just Willie. But willie is the 1st change that has to be made. Because changes to the players are way more drastic and will probably end in this team totally throwing in the towel for 2008.
Aaron Heilman???????????
You cant fire Beltran, Delgado, or any of the other players so someone has to take the fall.
Sure you can, it just costs money. Toronto fired Frank Thomas. It really doesn’t cost anything either because that money is already spent.
Exactly…I dont think anyone feels like a new manager is just going to magically turn things around, but most feel like there is a better chance with a new leader, than just staying with status quo.
but u can trade them
Well you can’t really trade Delgado and you would have to be an idiot to trade Beltran.
Not so sure about trading Beltran. He may be the one guy who is worth something valuable. If you look, assuming you won’t move Wright and Reyes, Beltran is the only player on the team who could bring back value.
Beltran’s contract will not allow you to trade him to many teams. Also, who on earth could you find to replace him? A gold golve, silver slugger, CF?
Silver slugger? Not from what we are seeing this year.
pelfry should be send down and give heilman a couple of starts to see how he does as a starter, he is looking good now
Seriously guys, I mean, I’m not a Willie defender. But the players flat out need to play better and this team needs to find a way to get rid of Delgado who I think is a black hole in the lineup and a bad influence in the locker room. He seems to think this is his team, but he doesn’t play well and isn’t accountable.
I mean, he seems like a very immature person, remember how after the Mets didn’t sign him before 05, he trashed Omar and Tony B? When he was hitting, it wasn’t so bad having someone like that on the team, but now he’s a waste.
In my personal opinion, Delgado needs to go way before Willie and I am glad Willie didn’t get fired today. I think in the end, Willie isn’t the right guy to lead this particular team, but he is so much less to blame then a lot of you act like.
Also, I really hope this means the Mets brass is going to make the right decision on Heilman.
Yes, but today they decided to do NOTHING.
They didn’t fire Willie. They didn’t fire Omar.
All we hear is blah blah blah f-ing blah, the players need to play better, blah blah blah.
Ok, fine, then how come none of the players are gone???
For all the Willie and Omar cheerleaders, can we at least change the roster? Are we allowed to do that? Or do we need to stick with “our guys” who can’t get the job done?
If you want to keep Willie, then for the love of god, tell me who should be replaced??? NO ONE??? That’s what the Wilpons are doing.
Status quo indefinitely. What a thrilling team to watch.
It’s not that easy just to get rid of players. Who do you get rid of and who takes their place. Especially if you are wanting to win,
Winning isn’t happening this year. Restructuring must be considered.
Good. So you want to do nothing. That is your solution.
The Wilpons should hire you.
No there are things that can be done. I would replace the manager and hitting coach. Demote Heilman and Wise for Muniz and Kuntz. Keep the kid up and let him platoon in LF and at 1B.
However, rebuilding this team is just silly.
You have Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Santana, Maine, Church that’s a really good core. No need to blow everything up.
I just think they should trade Delgado and Alou. Alou has some trade value to a contender when he’s healthy (big if) because he could help any contender. If you can’t trade Delgado separately you make whoever wants Alou take him.
Like I said, who couldn’t use a consistant 300 hitter and a guy in Delgado who is at least hitting for some power.
You get whatever you can for these two. Then let Angel play OF and let Evans play at first. Or you send Evans down and see if you can get some kind of stop-gap first basemen, someone who at least plays D (not Doug M though).
I just think Delgado reminds me of how Abreu was with the Phils, it was addition by subtraction, when Jimmy Rollins could finally become the leader of that team, they played much better and got over the hump.
First of all why the hell do we have Endy Chavez still. I mean he plays great defense but he has a .188 average entering todays game.
Also, instead of Damion Easley play, 40 year old Easley. Get rid of him we need a leader. Bring back Julio Franco as a ass. coach.
Or Jose Valentine, when he is healthy
I think you should have left off the coach part for Franco, LOL.
Heilman looks like he went on a bender for a few days and is showing up to work hungover and PO’ed.
Didn’t Keith supposedly tell Strawberry that the best way to get out of a slump was to go out and get totally smashed? Does it work for pitchers too? I will spend my next paycheck to get this team completely wrecked if that works
They can’t hit sober
Unfortunately too many of those guys thought the solution to any of life’s problems was to go out and get smashed…..
Plus its not like last fall when the pitching faultered. The mets are getting picked off, making errors, not advancing runners with productive outs.
in short they aren’t playing good baseball. It isn’t just a team slump
there is just no chance the mets win this game, none at all.
i cant believe willie didnt get canned.
clueless from the players to the front office.
how’s that for a slogan.
No. The best way to get out a slump is to go out and fine a really fat, ugly chick, and bang her. Im not making it up. They are “Slump-busters”
I’m for whatever will work. Maybe they all need to go out together on a bender and get arrested like a half dozen on that ‘86 team one night on the road….
There are only so many female Phillie fans out there.
a 3 run lead may not sound so hard to come back from for other teams, but for the current mets, it’s insurmountable
time to go quietly into the night
I think the last time I said this was 2 years ago, and since that point, heilman has always been too important a piece in the bullpen to do it, but now, that’s not the case. It’s kind of the perfect time to try Heilman out as a starter again. Pelfrey isn’t getting it done, so stretch out Heilman and see what he can do.
that was the funniest pinch hit I’ve ever seen. one swing, ay Es Homer Simpson. Me ha molestado!
This game is over because whenver there is a rally somehow castillo finds a way to come up
This is so friggen frustrating… FRED AND JEFF— this is a mental thing.. A defeatist attitude that comes from last seasons collapse and compounded by the attitude of its manager…
You need to either get them all psychiatrists or change the manager… and bring in someone that believes and can inspire ballplayers… For the love of god….
I agree with part of your post. It is mental and the attitude comes from the collapse. I don’t think it is made better or worse by Willie so in turn you need to try and put the accountalbility on the players by changing the coaching staff.
like?…
Why can’t heilman be a good starter. He’s got really good stuff. As a starter he doesn’t have to worry about being to fine with his pitches. Something i think he does alot when he comes in as a reliever. He’ll still give up the occational HR, however i think we should give it a shot.
Why the hell does the ump now have a smaller zone again. Some of those pitches feliciano has thrown were very close. Evans last AB he was called out on 3 borderline pitches.
Umps have no respect for rookies
I agree. Heilman is useless now as mop-up boy. And he sucks coming into jams.
There’s no harm in trying him as a starter.
It’s time. If he can start, he would be a decent replacement for Pedro next season. They are woefully short of pitching with Santana, Maine and nothing coming down the line. I don’t think there are any pitchers to buy this year either.
Heilman would be a great replacement for Pelfrey who sucks and should be placed in the bullpen.
Ugh. Two walks and now Uggla.
They got outplayed by the woman singing God Bless America
she got more claps than reyes’ HR’s combined lol
God bless!
One thing no1 mentions about this team. how about the luck factor? You can say all you want, but sometimes in this game you need some luck, and it just hasn’t been there for us. Perfect examples, last home series, last game against washington delgado smokes a ball for a DP. In atlanta, first inning we smoked balls of glavine. Beltran has hit in tough luck all year. That last ball schneider hit was a perfect example. Of course its a small part of the problem, but it just seems things just haven’t gone our way, on top of all the problems we’ve had.
It’s true they are experiencing some bad lucka and I keep trying to convince myself that by the law of averages they are due to play well eventually. But days keep coming and going and the team keeps tanking. Waiting for hot weather is an excuse. Waiting for them to all click is a lame excuse too because the Mets have been saying they are waiting for everyone to click at the same time for the past three years. How about playing some baseball, having some fun and showing that you’ve got a pair instead of playing like a bunch of wimps?
Great, we’re down to superstition. . . .
This isn’t “luck.” This is a bad team that is the perfect reflection of its vain, idiotic ownership.
omar should have signed luckier players then
Jeff and Fred should know it
It was Dodger GM Branch RIckey said it
“Luck is the residue of design.”
Omar designed this team must not have good mojo.
As for hard hit balls:
Wee Willie Keeler put it this way:
“Hit ‘em where they ain’t.”
Then it doesn’t matter how hard you hit it.
i hate this team.
right, let’s have rabbit’s foot night!
This team could really use a huge come from behind walkoff type win, maybe something like that will get them going. What a terrible swing by castillo.
Nice wave slappy
Fire the Wilpons!
nice swing castrato
Matt Wise lives!
Thats great luck two outs
Here comes Bunty McMoley
Dude, I burst out laughing. That’s hilarious…
Unfortunately so is the rest of the NL …
was that a swing? does anyone here believe there will be a comeback? THIS IS THE MARLINS!!! RICKY NOLASCO IS NOT CY YOUNG!
that was the worst swing i’ve ever seen in my life
1,2,3
Typical late innings.
Two more of those coming up.
Put it in the books!
typical, 6th inning on, 1-2-3
tell me when was the last time the mets won…. I can’t remembered anymore….
why does sny play the same 5 commercials over and over…
No sponser wants to be associated with a bunch of losers.
losing advertisers
Pretty soon, it will just be Giuseppe Franco commercials interrupted by 1-2-3 Met at-bats. . . .
. . . . or, wait — we already have that, don’t we?
Santana tomorrow. 7 innings, 2 runs allowed, does
not get a win.
Nice work Rockies.
What do people expect, if the Wilpons insist on staying the same course, nothing is going to change. The Mets aren’t all of a sudden going to be like “ok, we’ve been crap for a year now, let’s pick it up.” I don’t know if firing Willie is the answer, but I do know keeping him as manager is a ticket to nowhere.
You’re right of course. What is the definition of insanity? doing the same thing over and over and hoping that the results are different.
We all know it’s not just Willie. Omar has done a horrible job constructing the team, the Wilpons don’t get it and the players are indifferent, for the most part.
Something has to change.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
If it is broke, don’t fix it.
dreadful, dreadful, dreadful….all dreadful
Look i can understand the lineup not producing. It happens, but i’d at least accept it if i thought we were putting our best lineup out there everyday. I know church is hurt, but in no way should castillo still be in the 2 hole! This whole charade has to end. Castillo was a good hitter over his career because he had some speed and could slap the ball all over. He is not that guy anymore. He is a rally killer at the top. He has killed like 5 comeback attempts over the last week alone. The experiment has to end. Castillo has some value in the 8 hole, and when we had him there earlier in the season it actually worked.
Castillo argulably shouldn’t even be on this team, let alone batting 2nd.
you couldn’t be more correct
Batting 2nd Castillo has hit .279 with a .369 OBP.\
Batting 8th Castillo has hit .189 with a .302 OBP.
Looks like it worked there huh?
Isnt our light hitting catcher suppose to be batting 8th? How good can this lineup really be if he has to bat 6th?
why can’t feliciano go more than one inning. i mean wise is horrible and is bound to really blow this thing wide open.
It’s already wide open. 3 runs is game over with this team.
beat me to it
who cares, 3 runs down is already “blown open” for this team
spare me
…sigh….
i can’t even muster the energy to get pissed anymore.
I knew this game was a lost cause with Nook Laloosh starting tonight…
“I’m not in the position to think or not think, they don’t pay me to think. They pay me play baseball..” thats a nother 0-2 for Delga-no clue .
By he way looks like the 08 rule is still in effect, down 3after 3 thats a loss as this team has no fight…..
The only thing left is the over under for hits in the 8th and 9th..I put the over/under as 2 hits….what say you???
**I originally posted this as a response, but I’m curious to see what anyone thinks. I don’t pretend to be a GM, but I really want Delgado off this team, I think he’s a horrible presence in the locker room and his attitude is not a good attitude for this team to have.
I just think they should trade Delgado and Alou. Alou has some trade value to a contender when he’s healthy (big if) because he could help any contender. If you can’t trade Delgado separately you make whoever wants Alou take him.
Like I said, who couldn’t use a consistant 300 hitter and a guy in Delgado who is at least hitting for some power?
You get whatever you can for these two. Then let Angel play OF and let Evans play at first. Or you send Evans down and see if you can get some kind of stop-gap first basemen, someone who at least plays D (not Doug M though).
I just think Delgado reminds me of how Abreu was with the Phils, it was addition by subtraction, when Jimmy Rollins could finally become the leader of that team, they played much better and got over the hump.
You are making the mistake of believing that anyone in the Mets front office cares.
trade castillo too
id rather see jose valentin play 2nd and keep Reyes in order.
They will have to pay his ENTIRE salary over 4 yrs to trade him, with Delgado they’d probably have to pay the majority of it…Alou maybe they could get someone to pick up some of his.
I agree though, I’d rather see Jose Valentin because he is a leader and plays hard. I like Castillo to be honest, I always was a big fan of him before this year, I can remember being really happy when the Mets got him, amazing how things change.
But for real, my belief based on what I see and the quotes I hear, is that Delgado is a horrible influence in the clubhouse, is never accountable and when he’s hitting and the Mets are winning, it’s ok, what do you have to be accountable for? But when you’re in a slide like this, what kind of example are you setting when you act like it’s your team, but you never hold yourself accountable?
No one will trade for Delgado. No NL team would want him in the field. And certainly, even as a DH, his demand would be laughable. Teams weren’t lining up for Frank Thomas (.277/26/95, .857 ops last year) for the league minimum. Mike Piazza retired because nobody wants a DH who’s a shadow of his former self. Same deal with Sosa, who could probably out-produce Delgado right this second, rust and all, but who the hell wants him? No one.
I could see a playoff caliber team taking a flier on Alou at the summer deadline or a later waiver line deal. For a month, having his bat on the bench could be enticing. Of course, it would have to be during one of the rare stretches where he’s healthy, which by itself makes it a long shot.
FUQUE THIS TEAM
Gary is ridiculing Matt Wise, I love it.
Can you sense the electricity in the crowd? Everyone knows the Mets are never out of it! They’re all clapping their hands and stomping their feet screaming LETS GO METS! LETS GO METS!
This is where Willie let’s the game get out ofcontrol. No one pitching behind Wise. 3 runs is tough enough for this team.
I wish the Mets roster was filled with characters from The Simpsons. I’d make Ralph Wiggum the manager.
“Let’s burn down the observatory so this never happens again!”
my sash says “FIRST BASEMAN!”
Hello Dr Delgado,
Hello everybody
yeah wise is great, let’s keep him up
have to fire willie tonight Stop the distractions. Get a new leader.
Do you guys think if they play like this for another month they’ll lower ticket prices?
Oh wait, it’s LET’S GO HOME! LET’S GO HOME!
truthfully, the mets will probably get swept by the fish and then willie will be fired, seriously, i bet it will happen
i bet there will be another press conference where everyone says and does nothing
LOL!
Where’s Big Pelf…..did they take him out ?
can they please please PLEASE just do SOMETHING? i’m pretty sure running the same lineup out there everyday and not making any roster moves is not the answer.
Agreed.
Gotta do something. Start by releasing Delgado. Sit Castillo. Heilman and Pelfrey to NOLA.
the mets should have won this game. they should have atleast five runs and if Pelfrey hadn’t walked a guy and then hit Uggla the Marlins would be limited to three runs. Really really sad.
if they stay at 3 runs tonight..
last 161 games they will have scored 3 runs or less in 59 of them (~37%)
The Mets have to stop denying their hair is bad and do something about it.
OOPs. Denying the team is bad. Giuseppe has gone to my head
lol
they need to stop hiding their pride under a hat.. and admit they are bald.. and terrible.
If the Mets win this game,, I’ll buy everyone here a new car. Seriously.. I will..
I think Delgado should leadoff….!!!!
yes leadoff for the B-Mets or better yet some poor sap in he NL east who still think he will come around
Biggest problem with this team. They just press way to much. Especially when were down in games. Perfect example delgado’s last AB. 1st and 2nd 0 outs and he’s taking HR cuts. I mean its ok to do that, but maybe work the pitcher a little bit, get ahead in the count and then take a HR hack. Teams like the phillies (who take alot of pitches) are far more effective in scoring because they make things tough on the pitcher, and don’t give away easy outs.
delgaNO strikes out ….yup hes coming around…for crying out loud sit the dont give a flying…….. too cool for school….underachiever……hmm who did we trade him for…oh yeah Jacobs….how is his season going?
Yeah Delgado! He’s the best.
Is it sad that I think this team will never turn it around?
I think we should all completely ignore the team until July 4th
then if they are still in it, tune back in
if they suck in June, you won’t miss anything
if they recover you’ll be happy
I think I’ll take my own advice starting right now
where’s my remote….
Wouldnt that be the definition of a front runner? Just askin
Perfect last five innings for the fish. Embarrassing, that is if you are capable of embarrassment.
These guys obviously are not.
I don’t understand why Schneider comes out to the song Cyclone ?
Because of his speed
Was that bug the Mets next pitcher?
no its our new manager
the mets have won 1 game in which they were trailing past the 6th inning this year (against the nationals on 4/17 down 3-2 in the 8th). you guys might as well turn off your televisions
They should wheel out Alou and let him hit from a chair….!!
schneider didnt really hustle there
No Hustle – Check
Lack of Heart – Check
Mental Errors – Check
Welcome to your 2008 NY Mets
No fight in them..down 3 after 3 = another lifeless LOSS
can some one point me to the nearest pharmacy, I need to refill my Prozac
Try Seroquel, it will put you down good
6.5 games out if we don’t come back in this one. With 3 pretty tough teams ahead of us. Some said after the braves series it couldn’t get much worse. Well it seems it has.
Maybe Delgado should hit ninth…..!!!
What’s the payroll for the Marlins again?
A little less than Santana
about 10 million less than what we’re paying Delgado and Beltran (combined).
Braves already won today & the Phillies are crushing the Rockies.
Overall a pretty deflating day in Metsland
Maybe Delgado should’nt hit……………..!
Interesting to see the papers in the morning. I notice that the normally Willie loving media are starting to turn. Will Mike and the Dog continue the Willie love fest?
The key is to move forward…..and continue losing games….
Marlins Payroll = Our “Ace”
slappy castillo, delgaNO lack of hustle passion or even care, is poisoning the team and then that leaves the rest of them pressing and trying to show both that they care and that they need to win it by themselves. Reyes plays the middle and like a bipolar ADD flips between the two modes….
Slappy and DelgaNO need to have a message sent to them and the team by sitting them and making them watch for a bit….Call it time to recoup of heal from injuries just SIT THEM. As the biggest veterans the other mets MISTAKENLY think they are the role models and they are just playing for a check
It’s not Delgado or Castillo at this point. Castillo is doing what he does, he is a ROLE PLAYER. Delgado is just OLD. Pick on Reyes, Wright and Beltran. They are the ones hurting this team more than anyone else.
Willie after the game..” We’re a little flat, we just need to put a couple of good games together, bla bla bla…
you hear that chant
They are chanting “Fire Willie”
The remaining patrons are getting rowdy. Willie will need secret service pretty soon
Maybe we can trade Delgado to the Yankees for Joba, they could use a good first baseman……….!
This team sucks. No heart. This whole “we just need to play better” line isn’t getting it done. I don’t think firing Willie is the answer but it’s probably the only thing they can do right now. Have they had a come from behind victory all year? Maybe they should fire the strength coach. This team can’t score runs after the 4th inning. All the talk all the hype, all the meetings, nothing seems to be working.
I think all the fans should ban together and walk out or just not show up tomorrow night.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
No Booooooing allowed………….
It’s like a funeral out there. I don’t even think Nick Evans wants to be at Shea right now.
Are you kidding? He’s 0 fer. He’s not trying, he’s not playing hard. He’s just out there picking up a paycheck.
Omar = Isaiah (sp)
Fred = Charles Dolan
Jeff = Jim
I hope not, but it is looking pretty similar. Just throwing money doesn’t work.
I disagree. Omar got Johan, you can’t ask for anything else
Money got Johan, but I’ll give Omar credit. Let’s see what he has left. some of the articles recently indicate that this may be something we all regret over the next seven years.
When Omar and Willie get contract extensions, we’ll all be with you on that comparison.
bite your tongue
thats not fair, first of all Fred Wilpon is a gentleman, maybe to a fault, Omar took over a team in 2005, and 2 years later was very close to world series, the Mets were a mess before Omar, the only part I’ll agree with you is Jeff, he’s idiot, a rich kid who’s about to inherit the empire, has no idea what its like to look for a job, to be broke, just a spoiled kid, and I’ve heard this from good sources, Omar ’s biggest fault was the hiring Willie
I’d trade delgado to an independent league for Jose Cansceco
3 more and we’re out of here
He was WAYYYY safe …
whos got the concussion church or willy?
That guy was safe at second, but the Mets are due for one of those calls.
You know even Manaya isn’t sure they have a Championship Caliber team. Caliber players but maybe not the team. He put this team together! Who should really get fired!
And I’m as tired of this stale Yogi commercial as I am Guessepi Franco
I would trade him to anyone for anything that would pick up his salary, including for the Phanatics scooter…
I need a stat monster, would love to know the batting avg of the team when trailing after 5 innings….
Or just after 5 innings period.
Security is getting ready to get Willie out of the park.
Whats the hold up, I think they just got a kidnaping threat for some mets…oh wait no need they are already MIA
is willie going to get assassinated? why are there so many security guards ….
Phils scored 32 runs in the last two games. Mets have not scored 32 runs this whole week.
Hi I’m actor Troy McClure. You might remember me from such celebrity funerals as “Andre The Giant, We Hardly Knew Ye” and “Shemp Howard, Today We Mourn A Stooge”
How bout them Rockies?
I love Willie as a person and im not sure as a manager but it is clear this team is not playing or listening to him… The passive Torre-ism isnt working I would love to see him go off on the players in the clubhouse and hell he can go off on the media and even the fans if it puts any fire in thise zombies
I agree – I do like Willie a lot. He and his team are a bad couple that needs a divorce….kind of like me and this team. It’s an abusive relationship and I can’t tear myself away.
He’s actually good about going off on the fans. Anything else, not so much.
What makes it so clear?
I am so off on the endy bandwagon….pretty much an automatic out.
So trying to get rid of Willie didn’t work.
Can we all get behind the concept of getting rid of Delgado?
They are going down 15 in a row. Do the Wilpons even watch these games? Major league players just don’t quit like this
Who are these “Wilpons” that you speak of?
Yeah to the pirates..let him wallow there for a while since he doesnt give a flying f……
the mets may lose this game, but theres a moral victory for all of us: metsarebest will never post on this blog again
im loving the conversation between cohen/burkhardt
What happened, how did we get rid of him?
Not so fast. He’s been spied posting under another name. Something he promised he wouldnt do.
Must
End
The
Season
Well, this has been 3 hours well spent.
i hear boos from the 2 met fans still there
Maybe Willie is an evil genius who is showing us this baseball so we will apprieciate the team if the y start playing well
I hope everyone enjoyed their venting tonight. Same time tomorrow?
The late 1970’s are back baby
More like the early nineties. There was no hope in the 70s
There’s really no hope now to be honest with you
True enough. I guess I meant there was no promise in the 70s. Those teams were really awful from day 1
never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity…personally i’d be happy to never see Nook Laloosh pitch for this team again though i know that will never happen….next stop: last place…
I wonder if metsarebest is actually willie’s daughter
you guys need to stop watching when they are down by more then 3 in the 6th inning. save your time.
I think you can change that to down by 3 after 3…..
you can change that to….down, well, or up in most cases.
remember when our problem was Jose showing up the other team buy dancing and handshakes? What the hell happened?
apparently the marlins saw lastings’ HR handoff trot on sportscenter and really came out to play today
77-82
5th inning, 2 men on and no outs, from that point on, 5th inning, 6th inning, 7th inning, 8th inning and 9th inning, 1-2-3, 15 straight outs with no one on base. yeah, they don’t have a problem, motivation is at an all time high.
After this loss, I find myself feeling the same way as Delgado. I don’t really care.
good one
I give up. This team obviously doesn’t care about winning, so why the hell should we?
whew that was close……..lmao
Well at least its not too late so DelgaNO and Slappy Castillo can take Reyes out to party and celebrate his achievements so they continue thier mentoring of him lesson 55… kid theres always another game…. its not the wins its all about the money and looking like you care every now and then….
I do give Beltran credit in all of this, he looks like he still cares but is hitting hard balls right at the fielders
I still don’t get why you think that Castillo is all about the money and no heart?
Hey Fred, instead of “being prepared to fire Willie” why don’t you go ahead and f#$king do it! Do everyone, including Willie, a favor. This team is going nowhere fast.
I wish I didn’t care
It’s still early. Just need to put some games together. Trust my guys. Gotta get out there tomorrow.
Oh, that is from last year.
Just gotta get a nice little groove goin’. :D
We need to get into a rhythm.
I agree its tough when the fans care more than the players and unfortunately our fight is showing up against them and there lack of it.
I’m actually starting to feel bad for Willie at this point. The Wilpons have to let him go. Why put him through this anymore?
I agree.
I still say that they should have said in the press conference that come hell or high water Willie will be our manager.
Or
YOUR FIRED.
Either one would be better than limbo.
Agreed.
It was another wildly positive cashflow day for the Mets. Nothing but smiles and high fives all around in the Wilpon compound. And fans, it’s not too late to buy your CitiField brick!
I want to see Willie go.
But I am fully of the belief that Hojo must be fired. it is not coincidence that the Mets offensively have been an enigma since he became the full-time hitting coach. His hitting philosophy (if it is indeed his philosophy that he is imparting on the team) is absolutely atrocious. I have never seen a team collectively help the opposing pitcher by taking short ABs and not working the count.
Rick Down, whom was the only coach Willie was allowed to choose, was a much better hitting coach and it is no coincidence that Reyes was at his best under his tutelage.
Maybe they need to fire Hojo first, see how the team responds, then if that doesn’t take, fire Willie.
I agree, HOJO has to go.
It should be done tonight so the new manager can have santana starting the 1st game and get him off to a good start
Tell it like it is Daryl, please… tell them they look soft and have n fight.
I still care for my team, if you dont care about the mets you are not a true fan….yes watching this team is painful, but I will always care for my favorite team
We all obviously care, and thats why we are so upset
Alsois it just me or is Reyes wearing his cap much lower…looking like hes hiding??
Get Pelfrey out of the starting rotation. Start stretching out Heilman and put him the starting rotation and Pelfrey in the bullpen, please.
Binghamton pen or St Lucie pen?
Brooklyn pen.
That’s too close. I don’t want to see his cud chewing Mr. Ed mouth any longer.
Fred and Jeff Wilpon are responsible for this loss and everything going forward. As the knight in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade said “YOu chose poorly”
Im beggin you Darryl tell them they remind you of a team full of Kevin McReynolds
yay willy time lets get ready to here the best
Off topic: Does anyone hate Marty Noble? Because I have a feeling he has been sipping too much of the kool aid.
At this point I want to see either a good 7-3 streak or continue to go 2-8 or 4-12….anything but 1 up 2 down rhythm that seems to let all the mets and managment think they can turn it around…
AND FOR GODS SAKE SIT DELGAD-awful
um, they’re in the middle of a 1-7 stretch. that good enough?
I have been saying for months that Hojo should go. Reyes is not the same hitter since Hojo was hired.
Must
Endure
Terrible
Seasons
In fact that may be the perfect Manager for this team some one who has less life than DelGad-awful or slappy castillo….Yup Kevin McReynolds for MANAGER….!!!!
When Castillo and Delsht are MVP candidates, then we can put their names with McReynolds.
Ah but the same dont give a F…. and same posion to the club….what he did to the 86 mets was a crime
I never had a problem with him, he could hit and played very solid D. You don’t have to be a rah-rah guy to be effective, just look at Olerud. My problem with Delgado is he can’t hit AND he makes little league errors.
why is reyes so bad on the feild
Makes
Everyone
Think
Suicide
How about a rotating Manager strategy of the 86 met…..that way Keith wont be burdened and these lifeless corpses will get hit by some passion from different angles… Keith, Staw, Gary, Wally, Kevin Mitchell,Lenny and Ray Knight….no wait I want to start with Ray Knight…..let him get in DelgadNO and Slappy’s and Reyes face for a good intense conversation….hmmmm…I kinda like that….but every pre and post game needs to be televised live on SNY…..
KEVIN MITCHELL
you got it right there
which of these players own cats?
Manager
Extremely
Terrible &
Stupid
People should stop being angry with Willie, yes, he’s a bad manager, but it’s not like he’s going to resign with all the money he’s owed. Now my wrath goes to the Wilpons, who have handled this whole situation horribly.
I haven’t been this down on the Mets since the night of the Kazmir trade.
Hell bring back the 86 mets and let them play. I bet you theyd play better then this!
Bring back the 69 Mets
wow,, I’m very very very very angry right now……. 6.5 back 3 under .500 and going south.
This is not good,, and there is no reason to have confidence in an organization that allows this to happen..
this is so stupid,,,
The organization let this city down today. The let there team down and are ruining the final summer at shea. This will go down as the biggest waste in the history of the Mets and Fred and Jeff allowed this to happen. Good way to close out Shea Morons.. With Boooos and Fire Willie chants.. Smart move…Brilliant
Mediocre
Excuses,
Talent and
Skills
Well they cant be more fragile (even at 40) as Alou and Pedro
the evans story is now old
Maybe there’s some 17 year old playing for the Savannah Sand Gnats the Mets can call up. This isn’t about winning anymore. It’s about gimmicks to make the season go faster.
And think about this…which I thought I would NEVER SAY…. Carlos Beltran seems to care the most and play the hardest on the team…..OMG this is a sign of the apocalypse
Maybe he should step up and be the “one definitive leader” that everyone says this team needs.
Minaya’s
Elderly
Team
Sucks
hahaha!!! That’s a great one…
I missed Willie’s post-game comments…Is everything still going according to plan?
No Mex but I think he knows “his guys and we need to just put some things together”….
I would just love for him to say..”Guys I have no Fin idea what is wrong with these guys, give me abreak its like talking to a wal, they dont listen and I dont think they really care, Id boo too”
but he has too much class for that……but it would be funny
It would be funnier if Willie said, “I defer all post-game questions to the genius who put this team together, Omar Minaya.”
And how about that Farm system Tony Bernazard, we need an outfielder and we bring up a AA infielder…..yup plenty of talent there….
Alou, Delgado, Pedro, Castillo, and El Duque can all be put on a spaceship and sent to Mars right now. If their names were never mentioned again with the Mets I could care less.
One problem:
Castillo – 4 year deal (thank you Omar).
even at this team’s best potential, they aren’t good enough to win the World Series…….so what do you do?
say forget this year, try and work a trade to get X-Man back, at the end of the year obviously delgado is gone….you do NOT re-sign pedro, unless he wants to be in the bullpen…..El Duque is gone….Alou is gone…..you move beltran to hit behind jose…..and then u spend the money you unloaded by getting mark texeira……make that your #1 priority……
I don’t know why, but for some reason I could see signing Tex as a disaster
i could see that, but other than him, i would only worry about signing a solid #2 starter…..
Look at the bright side, we don’t have to wait until September to be disappointed…………………!
Medicore
Effort
Till
September
Than fold like a cheap suit
wow, another loss, total shocker.
Get used to them until they clean house……