Blog: Switching Sides, Blow it Up, Message
By Matthew Cerrone - May 27, 2008 1:49 pm

MetsGeek.com, a fellow Mets blog with a statistical bend, has changed it’s name to RaysGeek, in honor of the Devil Rays, because, as they put it, “The Mets suck.”

Meanwhile, in a post to Hot Foot, Anthony De Rosa wants to ‘blow the whole thing up,’ such as cutting ties with Moises Alou, Luis Castillo, Carlos Delgado, Aaron Heilman, Pedro Martinez and El Duque, while writing, “I’ve had it with this team.’

According to Ken Davidoff at his blog for Newsday, “A good week against the right teams, and the Mets can bring themselves right back into the race.”  However, he concludes, “I don’t see that good week occurring on Randolph’s watch.”

Lastly, at his blog for the New York Post, Joel Sherman explains how, by doing nothing yesterday, Fred and Jeff Wilpon have sent the absolute wrong message to their team’s clubhouse.

119 Responses to “Blog: Switching Sides, Blow it Up, Message”

  1. RPsJacket says:

    I agree with Sherman. Keeping Randolph is one thing, but it should have been combined with some other move. When the discussion turned to “how can we improve the team”, what exactly did they talk about?

    I would release delgado and anyone else who is not popular with Randolph, let the players know that since the manager is clearly not accountable, they are.

    • Kingredth1 says:

      Can we find a new GM? He is the root of the issue. These are the players that Willie has to deal with. Come on, what other GM would give Luis Castillo a 4 year deal other then say…Steve Phillips if he was still in the biz??

      FIRE OMAR…

  2. drodro22 says:

    At this point I’m just interested in what draft picks we could get with these old folks departures. Here is my big question: Would you rather a team with Castillo and Delgado on 1b and 2b, or Willie and Hojo as manager and hitting coach? I’d take the latter…..

  3. metfan435 says:

    Everyone should boycott a game at shea, then watch what happens. But as long as the fans are in the stands spending money there will be no change.

    • RPsJacket says:

      A boycott isn’t even necessary. Just wait for the call from Ticket Sales regarding your 09 season ticket plan at CitiField.

      Don’t sign up for 09 tickets, they will hear you loud and clear.

      On the other hand, this could have a silver lining. I bet there are weekend packages available next year after this disaster.

      • Dwright5kiddflushing says:

        They should keep Vargas up here and send Pelfrey down when Pedro comes back. Let him work out his problems while the big league club is under a lot of pressure. This is the worst time for the big pelf to go through growing pains. He shouldn’t have been rushed to the big leagues anyways.

        • RPsJacket says:

          All true, but in Pelf’s defense he was supposed to be a No 5. The problem is they have a 1 and a 2, and three 5s.

        • dave27 says:

          “Number 5″ is not supposed to mean “absolute disaster.”

          A good number 5 eats innings and keeps you in ballgames. Pelfrey does neither.

          Fortunately, I think Vargas can accomplish both. Now we just need a #2 and a #4.

  4. RPsJacket says:

    On an unrelated note, why does any Met fan even call Fatso & Fruitloop?

  5. MetsFanInVegas says:

    A good week against the right teams? The Mets are one of the worst teams, what right team is their to play if we lose 3 out of 4 to the Nationals?

  6. boozermetsfan says:

    good question. i enjoyed the wine pic on BMF

  7. zen says:

    this team is going through a mild depression. they need to skip batting practice or get together on their day off and go to the movies to see a comedy followed by a huge dinner together at one of the players’ homes or at a restaurant with some type of latino cuisine.

    willie get it done and pick up the tab. it’s time.

    • RPsJacket says:

      flush it out of their system with cheap booze and expensive hookers. or expensive booze and cheap hookers.

    • mkepzza31 says:

      Maybe Mets fans should also have a night out…or maybe we just need to take a week off from watching the team…if they find out nobody is watching, their delicate egos won’t be stressed and they can start playing

      • Mr. Bananagrabber says:

        I gave myself a weekend moratorium from the team this past weekend because they are affecting my mood. So instead, I filled myself with charred meats and liquid depressants. And, lo and behold, it didn’t do them any good at all - or me, for that matter.

      • NegativeFan says:

        I’ve already taken over a week off….I haven’t watched a game since they lost 1-0 to the Nats.

        And you know what? I couldn’t be happier. My GTA4 instead of the Mets plan is wonderful.

  8. toomanyuniforms says:

    Jerry Manuel will suck as Met manager, but I’d imagine having him given the year to see if he can right the ship is the best we can hope for.

  9. D in Ben Lomond says:

    Can we get a new lineup please? luis castillo gets too many ABs. If you’ve only got three decent hitters, no point in a cleanup hitter.

    Reyes
    Beltran
    Wright
    1,2,3

    I am agnostic about Willie at this point. But his stubbornness about lineups drives me crazy. secondbase always bats second is a stupid rule,,,,

    Reyes 2 out hits, rare as they’ve been, are useless with Luis #2.

    And with reyes on base there is no one to take advantage of fastballs… luis castillo just hits fastballs into doubleplays. It actually works to our disadvantage.

    How about a PH walking? Reyes bunting him over, maybe even getting on in the process, and then Carlos? Castillo is not a #2… this idea of a classic bunting, single hitting, #2 is WAY overrated. You need your best hitters at the top of the lineup (1-4). not your fastest.

    I live in the Bay Area &, although they are not a very good team, Bruce Botchy has not used the same lineup twice yet. HE rarely did last year too.

    standardized lineups are over rated… 86 mets notwithstanding.

    FINALLY…

    carlos delgado, can you take one for the team? He has been almost hit about twenty times this year. But he puts great effort into getting out of the way. TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM. Chase Utley does it. IT DOESN”T HURT YOUR BA and helps your OB%.

    • Dirtysanchez says:

      u want to put one of our best rbi guys behind someone who gets on base as frequently(sarcasm) as reyes. Id rather leave beltran where he is or at the very least put him in 3rd. Unfortunatly i dont think luis fits in anywhere but 2nd at this point, we have seen how he produces in the 8th hole with RISP. Id rather use his ability to not hit a ball out the infield in a situation to move reyes over.

      • D in Ben Lomond says:

        castillo doesn’t produce anything against lefties… OPS .585. He needs to be out of the lineup… or #8… in those situations…

        I don’t like putting our rbi guy #2, but carlos could also be a run-scorer… I would like to see those three grouped together. like I said, If the pitcher or #8 lead off an inning there is no hope for castillo to drive in reyes. (As I say that I read that his OPS is .960 with RiSP/2outs)… so maybe its all an illusion…

        • D in Ben Lomond says:

          Having castillo #2 forces you to always play small ball. mets need to be more agressive than that. In some situations it is essential… but not always.

          Lets go mEts. win one (please)

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          With the way the “power” of the mets have been in display this season…i would welcome small ball anyday

    • paste says:

      I don’t think Willie deserves to be fired purely on the basis of his on-field performance. But round the clock criticism of his every move–plus his own misguided comments– have destroyed his credibility with this group. Even if the change is purely cosmetic, he should be let go just to let the team, “turn the page” as Keith would say. Whatever happens, I wish Willie well. I think he is a solid manager and a good guy. But putting him through this extended torture only to fire him later isn’t right. Let him go already. Maybe it will be better for everyone at this point.

  10. General Millz says:

    Am I the only one who thinks maybe everyone is overreacting just a little bit? I know it’s hard to watch this team because we can’t forget the end of last season, and at times I’ve been extremely fed up with the way the Mets are playing.

    But it is still May. I’m dying for these guys to start winning some games, but I don’t think blowing up the team, so to speak, is really necessary at this point.

    Maybe I’ll be wrong, but I still believe.

    • MetsFanInVegas says:

      You’ll be dead by the time this team starts winning games lol

    • altru426 says:

      i do believe, and always will, but at what point is enough, enough?

      alou, pedro and el duque just aren’t contributing…you can’t bank on them, as soon as they come back, they get hurt, you need to change that

      there needs to be some kind of change to change the mentality, nothing else has worked, one move can just change it enough to make the team wake up

      cut delgado, let evans and carp platoon at first and LF…

      • MetsFanInVegas says:

        We have reached that point. The only reason why we’re not in last is because the Nationals keep losing too. Wait till we play them again and then we’ll slip into last place.

    • RPsJacket says:

      I enjoy your optimism, and share it to a point.

      But they have been borderline unwatchable for most of the season. It hasn’t been up and down, its been almost all down.

    • Boooooo says:

      you are completely and totally ou of your mind…

      is that convincing enough..

      it is june, not may.. there are 3 good teams ahead of us in the division, not to mention stl, hou, chicago, etc. etc. etc.

      If you think we are going to make the playoffs this year, it is just not going to happen..

    • Dirtysanchez says:

      I commend your optimism. I love this team but right now there is a difference between optimism and reality.
      The reality is we are in 4th place and 6 1/2 out of first
      Yes there is alot of baseball to be played and they have time to turn it around. What i think all the despiration around here is that it doesnt look like this team is capable of doing so. We do not do anything consistantly and that has plagued our season so far. We need something to jumpstart this team and