Matthew Cerrone

Note: Luis Castillo likes Double Plays
By Matthew Cerrone - May 27, 2008 3:45 pm

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Luis Castillo has grounded in to seven double plays in only 25 opportunities, which is the third-worst rate in baseball.

…what’s worse, it feels like so many of castillo’s double plays occur during what could be a big rally…first and second, one out, castillo hits in to a double…over and over again, it seems…

…for what it’s worth, from what i can gather out of people close to the team, Mets GM Omar Minaya wanted to sign David Eckstein, not castillo…

…however, eckstein’s plan was to hold out a) for more money from another team, and b) the opportunity to remain at shortstop…in fact, there are lots of people who believe eckstein had zero intention of playing second base…anywhere…

…meanwhile, castillo had a three-year offer from the Astros, and, for the sake of not waiting around, the Mets gave castillo one more year and ended their search for a second baseman

…and so now the Mets have a 33–year-old second baseman with bad knees, earning $6 million per season for the next four years

For what it’s worth, Eckstein is batting .246 in 30 games for the Blue Jays, while starting at shortstop.

Also, in 34 games for the Braves, Ruben Gotay is batting .258 in just 31 at bats.

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Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 15:47:19

Hey…since86.

Here’s one for you.

Comment by LongJohnMaine
2008-05-27 15:51:51

Third worst rate in the bigs. Jeezus.

I would have loved an Easley/Gotay platoon at 2B, and then make a run at the O-Dog after 2008. So much for that.

Comment by chicagometfan
2008-05-27 15:56:18

Thanks for posting Castillo’s terrible DP rate. I knew he was grounding into lots of DP’s but due to my now heavy drinking I could not remember how many chances he had. it seemed to me like it was every time there was a chance but as I said the Mets have caused me to drink so much that I could not remember. Now I know

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Comment by DK
2008-05-27 16:04:37

Lets be serious if Wright | Beltran | delgado | Alou actually produced would we even mention Castillo’s numbers? His numbers are in no way horrible. (well aside from the double plays..) lets foucs on the real problems with this offense.

 
Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 16:19:41

i disagree. Luis Castillo is placed into a very important role on this team, and he is failing miserably. Sandwiched between Reyes and Wright and representing strenght up the middle, Castillo is in one of the most important roles on this team. And his ability cannot match that expectation.

 
Comment by thecoup
2008-05-28 00:58:42

Castillo just had a nine game hitting streak. He’s been on base in all but two games in May.

In May: he has 13 runs in 74 at bats. Church has 14 in 79. Wright has 15 in 107. He has as many stolen bases and wright and beltran. He has the most sacrifice hits.

If someone is on base when he’s at bat, he moves them forward constantly —

In 40 at bats with RISP this year, he has 13 hits, a sacrifice, and 11 walks. That’s .325 avg with .a 471 on base percentage. Those aren’t numbers I’d like to give up.

I’m not sure how they figure only 25 double play opportunities. With runners on 1B, 1B+2B, and 1B+3B, he’s had 14, 14, and 5 AB respectively. And that doesn’t count all the times he’s walked.

Castillo had a slow start, but he’s the least of our problems. He wasn’t hired to carry our offense.

 
 
Comment by shinjosplints17
2008-05-27 17:49:16

My brain is going to melt. I guess things did not break how Omar wanted but I cant watch this guy for 2 more games let alone 3.5 more years! Why, Why, Why! guy has more knee problems than Nancy Karrigan

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Comment by anditsouttahere
2008-05-27 16:00:26

haha 86 went crazy earlier on me, but i guess castillo isnt as glorious as he thought he was

Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 16:10:53

the guy posts some insightful stuff. That is why I am completely floored at therealsince86’s allegiance to Luis Castillo. It’s mindboggling.

I got into this with him on the earlier Gammons thread. My point is that Castillo has a useless high OBP in the 2 spot b/c this team that should be stretching the diamond with 1st-to-3rd baseball. Castillo commits them to station-to station baseball and rarely scores or creates runs. He doesn’t drive the ball and, in fact his .360 OBP is 40 POINTS higher than his SLUG. That is horrible. THrow in his DP rate, propensity for sacrifing an out, and the fact that he makes the field smaller for the defense….this guy should be no where but the 8 spot. Let alone…he shouldn’t even be in a MEts uniform.

I have yet to get since86’s response to these points about Castillo on that thread or this one. Either he concedes, or he’s just out giving Castillo his mid-afternoon backrub/lap dance. Who knows?

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Comment by anditsouttahere
2008-05-27 16:13:27

haha and his case was that he has a high OBP with 2 out and RISP, well if thats the case he should be leading the team in rbi. the main point is, if hes not grounding out, his OBP is infield hits or short slaps to the outfield that can only move runners one base

 
Comment by anditsouttahere
2008-05-27 16:14:06

or maybe he is Luis Castillo?!?

 
Comment by metinDC23
2008-05-27 17:10:24

The 2 outs with risp stat was in response to someone’s anecdotal observation that all his hits and walks were coming in meaningless situations.

You guys both make good points but I still think Castillio is far from this teams biggest problem.

 
Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 17:21:17

you have 2 names?!?!?!

now you are forcing me to google all your posts and see how many times metinDC23 follows a therealsince86 comment with a “Right on. I agree”. :)

 
Comment by TobeRinkler
2008-05-27 18:45:17

I’d still rather have somebody with a high OBP than a low one. But Castillo is getting painful to watch–my knees hurt every time he has to run. Hey–doesn’t Willie play a little second base? How about a Rose/Torre-style encore?

 
Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 19:18:38

or Harold Reynolds. He is on the payroll, after all.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Dwright5kiddflushing
2008-05-27 15:47:57

As much as I like Castillo Please 4 year contract……Ugh

Comment by LogeAtShea
2008-05-27 16:44:20

He’s right in line with a long list of middle infielders who came here and played like crap - - starting with Roberto Alomar, Carlos Baerga and Tony Fernandez.

Comment by Only1311DaysLeft
2008-05-27 16:49:51

Only difference is, Alomar, Baerga, and Tony Fernandez were good before they came here.

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Comment by mackey_sassers_arm
2008-05-27 15:51:20

Thank you for posting this. Alos, please not that those bad knees are also 9 out of 10 in SB chances.

He might not be great, but he is much better than any other reasonable choice Omar was given.

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-05-27 15:56:41

Thank you….He gave us one less question mark for next year and omar had to do everything he could to keep him(giving him one more year). If omar had options im sure he would have not signed for 4 years or castillo would not have been here.

 
Comment by BigHangWithEm
2008-05-27 16:29:03

Also, even though its 4 years, its 4 years at $6M per year. That’s really nothing. If the Mets want to trade Castillo after/during next season they can do so. It would just mean the Mets have to eat about half of the money, small price to pay when it meant securing his good buddy Johan on the Mets.

And for those of you complaining about Castillo, this is what he is. His #s are right where his career avgs are (his batting avg is a little off his career pace, but a couple of 3 for 4s and he’ll be above his career mark, just shows you what a worthless stat avg. is). The guy walks, steals bases, plays good D, sees plenty of pitches and is a capable bunter. I mean what more do you want from a light hitting 2B. Please, stop complaining about his limp, he always limps around like that. Its part of the mind games he plays with the other team.

Enough of mentioning scrubby players like Gotay, Easley, Eckstein, these are all inferior 2B options for the 2008 Mets.

If Wright, Beltran and Delgado hit some more and Alou can stay healthy then there is nothing wrong with this team. Firing Willie will take the growing mental burden off of these players and allow them to relax and play the way they are capable of.

 
 
Comment by Church4prez
2008-05-27 15:52:25

David exkstein id a motivated little scrappy passionate WS MVP who is much better than this gutless stiff

Comment by Frank Taveras
2008-05-27 15:54:16

Its gotten so bad that I wish we had signed Eckstein - and he is terrible.

At least he doesn’t seem to phone it in every night.

Comment by backinbusiness
2008-05-27 16:01:21

Without “phoning it in” he has managed even worse BA and significantly worse OBP than Castillo. He sucks even though he runs out…walks.

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Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 16:15:14

The only image I have of a Met who threw like a girl is Rusty Staub.

And he was really good.

Let’s not ruin that with Eckstein in a Mets uni. ok?

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Comment by mackey_sassers_arm
2008-05-27 15:56:10

Did you read the post? “there are lots of people who believe eckstein had zero intention of playing second base…anywhere”

-if that is true, who would you want playing 2B for this team this year?

Comment by Only1311DaysLeft
2008-05-27 16:54:24

Kaz Matsui is better than Luis Castillo. By far.

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Comment by mackey_sassers_arm
2008-05-27 16:58:37

a comment like that needs to have “(sarcasm)” after it so people don’t think you are serious.

 
Comment by Danny1986
2008-05-27 17:22:33

please don’t force me into a position to defend Luis Castillo. It’s been a bad enough day as it is.

 
Comment by TobeRinkler
2008-05-27 18:49:41

Yeah, maybe, but the Kaz/Unit HR 1-0 SO a few years back is still memorable.

 
 
 
Comment by patrick
2008-05-27 16:02:48

why hasn’t captain scrappy rubbed off on the Blue Jays?

oh, that is right, because scrappiness is a myth that sounds good on winning teams…

ie Endy Chavez is a scrappy little player (circa 2006)

 
 
Comment by dykstraw
2008-05-27 15:53:12

eckstein also sucks. both eckstein and castillo are wildly overrated because people who don’t understand “numbers” think they are “scrappy.”

i would have been way happier with gotay. ruben was no slick fielder but i would gladly trade that for the ability to hit the ball out of the infield more than once a week. plus if he sucked, he could have been replaced. now we are stuck with castillo for FOUR YEARS.

remember kids, you can’t spell SCRAPPY without CRAPPY.

Comment by mackey_sassers_arm
2008-05-27 15:57:04