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postGame: Mets 5 Marlins 3
By Matthew Cerrone - May 27, 2008 10:04 pm

The Mets (24–26) defeated the Marlins (30–21) by the score of 5 to 3 in Shea Stadium tonight.

For a boxscore, recap, play by play, etc., click here.

  • Right out of the gate, the Mets looked like the team we have been wanting them to be.  They were running hard, hi-fiving, making strong defensive plays and looking alert.
  • In fact, the first three batters of the game reached base, and though Carlos Beltran popped out, Damon Easley drove home a run with a sac fly, which was followed by two RBI singles from Ramon Castro and Fernando Tatis, who later drove in another run with a single to left field.
  • Tatis is on fire, and needs to stay in the lineup for a little while longer – and I can’t believe i just wrote that, but I did.  Fernando Tatis.  Go figure.  In fact, I see no reason why Willie Randolph should change the lineup tomorrow.
  • Later, Tatis and Carlos Beltran took part in a two-out double steal, with Ramon Castro at the plate and Nick Evans on deck.
  • By the way, Evans looks totally overmatched.
  • Thank God the Mets go to Andrew Miller early, though, because once he settled in, well, he settled in.
  • Johan Santana allowed three runs on eight hits through seven innings pitched.  He worked from behind in the count quite often, but that will do just fine against the free-swinging Marlins.  The thing is, he just can’t resist allowing a home run, can he.  Bizarre.  Santana struck out Hanley Ramirez twice, which was nice to see. 
  • Later, Santana hit a double off the wall in left center, running hard to leg out the hit.  He is among the best athletes on the team, no doubt about it. 
  • Beltran ran down a deep, deep fly ball in the left-center field gap, looking like a wide receiver, as Ron Darling likes to point out.
  • In the seventh, with a runner on third and one out, Jose Reyes lost the handle on a high chopper hit right at him.  The runner would have scored any way, thanks mostly to back-to-back wild pitches from Santana, but still, Reyes has now committed an error in three straight games.  Also, hats off to Luis Castillo, who made a diving grab behind second earlier in the inning, which, had he not, who knows how badly the seventh could have been.  In the end, Nick Evans made a hold-your-breath catch for the second out and Santana set up Dan Uggla, got ahead of the count and ended it by striking him out on a change up away.  Close call.
  • Speaking of close calls, I lost count of how many times the Mets hitters had to turn away and hit the deck from a high-and-tight fastball from the Marlins.
  • By the way, Easley, Tatis and Castro, the heart of the team’s order tonight, were 5 for 9 with five RBI.
  • Lastly, hat’s off to SNY for letting Keith Hernandez broadcast from the seats at field level behind home plate.  Outstanding.  In some cases, they had a camera over his shoulder looking out on to the field, as Keith broke down the at bat and pitcher.  It was like Keith-Cam.  The best part, though, was later in the game when in the middle of a sentence about batting stances he casually says, “Oh, no thank you, I don’t eat dairy,” after which he just continued on with his comments about the game.  I laughed out loud, as it was clear he just refused ice cream from a fan.
  • Despite the Marlins having runners on base all night, I felt pretty comfortable and confident in the Mets tonight.  I think it was their energy level.  At any rate, it was a strong, fun, exciting, entertaining game tonight, guys – and it’s about time.

The Mets play the Marlins on Wednesday, completing a three-game series, with Oliver Perez facing Scott Olsen.

141 Responses to “postGame: Mets 5 Marlins 3”

  1. ness589 says:

    The SNY camera work was awful. They used the “Keith Cam” too much. That view sucks because you can’t see the type of pitch and location.

  2. backinbusiness says:

    psst Matt, that was Easley w/the 1st inning sac fly, not Endy.

  3. therealsandman says:

    maybe the meeting yesturday was to talk about how much playing time delgado will have in the next few weeks

    • NadyFan says:

      Hopefully it’s not much. He kills that line-up along with his shabby defence. He’s done.

  4. stickguy says:

    Ah, but it was good for Keith to give his perspective about what he was seeing. No, I wouldn’t want the whole game from that angle, but it served a purpose.

    Also, at first, I thought he was turning down a beer when he got offered the ice cream!

  5. NegativeFan says:

    They won…..who cares? I’d rather they lose and get to rock bottom ASAP so we can blow this up. Meaningless isolated wins don’t help this team anymore.

    Guarantee you Perez stinks the joint up tomorrow.

    Unless they can win 7 in a row or 10 of 12 etc, who cares anymore?

    • metsincitylimits says:

      i care.

    • NadyFan says:

      The only way they have a shot to win 7 straight is if they sit Delgado 7-straight.

    • Gina says:

      At least you’re living up to your name.

      and there’s really no way to blow it up. we have to many untradeable contracts. we’re either going to suck with this team or win with this team. I’d rather win with this team.

      • NegativeFan says:

        Gina-

        That’s not an option, not with this crew. Not anymore.

      • NadyFan says:

        I’d rather win too. Don’t let my user name fool you, I’m an Xavier Nady Fan but by no means a Pirate Fan. I’ve lived and died (figure of speach) with my beloved Mets since 1969. Go Mets. Bench Delgado.

  6. SantanaCYYOung says:

    that must have been the quickest post game comments ever? again, this win does not mean anything if they do not win tomorrow.

  7. metsfan119 says:

    I just realized how much more I like this team when I don’t have to look at Delgado. Send the guy on a nice long vacation, please

    • NadyFan says:

      Delgado sucks all the life out of this team and this offense. He’s as close to a cancer to his team as any ball player I’ve seen.

      • WestCoastMetFan says:

        I hope Church plays tomorrow. We have a good amount of 1st basemen now, so Delgado doesn’t have too. We have Evans, (though he is looking overmatched) and Tatis. Easley, can play there and a lot of other places, but I am thinking we should ride Tatis till he cools off. We should ride Degado on the pine till something changes with him.

      • TobeRinkler says:

        All negative down to here–sad.

  8. MetfanMD says:

    i like that they are making changes though….its nice to see the meeting yday was about something…..keep delgado on the bench….change is good at this point

  9. mavicario says:

    They won, but they didn’t look very good doing it.

    2nd and 3rd and no one out and they couldn’t score any runs….

    I keep saying it, but Castillo should not be batting 2nd. He hits too many ground balls to the SS or 2B. He’s a good player and I like him on the team, but he should bat 8th.

    • TenTonHammer says:

      “They won, but they didn’t look very good doing it.

      2nd and 3rd and no one out and they couldn’t score any runs….”

      .364 for the night with RISP. Baby steps man. Baby steps.

      • mavicario says:

        I know I’m being very pessimistic, but do we really think Easely playing 1B and Tatis in the outfield is the answer? Cause they were the guys that got it done (Castro too).

        • TenTonHammer says:

          Hitting is contagious. If a guy like Tatis can collect some hits for a week until Wright gets his act together, what’s wrong with that? Ryan Church has been in that role saving our butts for a month.

          At this point you take wins where you can get them.

    • Nightlife says:

      Eh, I thought they looked alright. Of course this all changes if they don’t win tomorrow. And about not scoring with 2nd and 3rd with no out, I agree about Castillo there, but we got doubled up on a line drive, thats just bad luck.

      • sherlockcollector says:

        One bad move by Willie – he lets overmatched Evans bat and then replaces him with the left-hitting Chavez [who gets a hit leading off the next inning]

        • MudvilleNine says:

          That was one of those, lets show the rookie some confidence and see what he does here, at bats. I know those are not popular right now but if he’s going to play the kid, the kid has to be able to go out there without having to look over his shoulder to see if the coach is going to pull him. Besides, it wouldnt have been Chavez pinch hitting there, he probably would have batted Delgado wanting to be able to put Endy in the outfield in a double switch with the pitcher. Same result happened so no loss and he showed the kid he has some confidence in him.

  10. metsincitylimits says:

    agreed. although what were the options today? endy? he’s been doing the same recently . .

    • mavicario says:

      I agree with Church out it’s tough to find a #2 hitter, but I think with today’s lineup, Easely would’ve been better there.

      Long term I think Church or Beltran. Beltran’s OBP is exactly what you need for a #2 hitter, while his power numbers are not what you want for a #4 hitter.

  11. metsincitylimits says:

    about castillo i mean.

  12. Phantaroth says:

    I agree that Castillo shouldn’t bat 2nd anymore… Reyes > Tatis > Wright > Beltran > Easly > Schneider > Evans > Castillo

    For tomorrow? :)

    • therealsince86 says:

      I don’t know why I keep trying but you do realize that if Tatis had hit 2nd tonight we would have most likely lost? Not because Castillo is good but because we need RBI’s from the 5-8 spots. It’s one or the other. Castillo has only one thing going for him and that is OBP, use it where it can be useful. Tatis can drive in runs, use it where it can be the most useful.

    • NadyFan says:

      And no Delgado!!!!

      • Castillo isn’t used properly in the 2nd hole. We don’tt need sacrafices. There should be alot more hit and runs

        • therealsince86 says:

          I can agree with that.
          What I never understand is sacrificing Reyes from 1st to 2nd. That is just plain stupid.

    • lineshottorightandchurchmakesthecatch says:

      Reyes SS > Tatis LF > Wright 3B > Beltran CF > Church RF > Easley 1B > Castro C > Castillo 2B > Perez

      If Church can get back I think we could get by with this line up for a bit. Against lefties anyway. You know if we face a righty that Delgodo is going to play. The Castro/Schnieder platoon should be explored more as well. Schneider can handle the pitchers but Castro has shown he can do that also and he is much better facing the lefties than Brian.

  13. ags412 says:

    It always seems like they have energy when they’re winning. The energy is there when they’re losing too, it’s just not apparent – to the fans or to the team. Basically my point is: winning = everything is good, losing = everything is bad.

    • The Glider says:

      Gee, once you put it like THAT, it just makes baseball so easy to understand.

      • NadyFan says:

        LOL.

        How about winning = Willie stays, losing = Willie goes. To put it in your simplistic terms.

      • miker94 says:

        funny how last night my suggestion was to bench some key players to try and shake things up and all you could do was talk trash about that idea. the very next day willie does exactly that and the mets win. hmmmmm, seems you should be the one zipping your lip tonight huh genius?

        • miker94 says:

          not you, nady fan

        • NadyFan says:

          Thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering what I could have possibly said to get you so pissed! LOL

        • miker94 says:

          no, it was last night. i simply suggested that willie should bench a few key players, especially if/when they make mental mistakes. i stated that it probably wouldn’t make the team play better that particular night because a “b” player would be playing instead of a starter, but maybe, just maybe it might get that benched player to open his eyes, and start playing with a little more focus and heart. upon making this suggestion, a few people went on to bash me. i’d say they didn’t understand what I was saying, but willie did just that and look what happened!

        • NadyFan says:

          Agree with you 100%, I don’t see why you should have been bashed, you didn’t say anything so radical.

          This is a performance game (like most sports) and if you’re not performing to your capabilities because of lack of focus and mental mistakes then you deserve to be benched and give someone else a chance. The bottom line it’s all about winning.

        • miker94 says:

          i think the problem was that i suggested it after reyes made that error in the first inning, which was his 2nd in 2 days. and i said he should be one that does get benched, even if only for a day or two. then of course he hits 2 hr’s. so that’s when the bashing started. of course, if he had popped up to the 2nd basemen 2 times then they would have all been agreeing with me, but since they are non-knowledgable baseball fans they just couldn’t see it that way.

        • NadyFan says:

          Well, you have to realize that Reyes along with Wright are the poster boys of this team and to some die hard Mets fan they can do no wrong. So naturally they get all uptight and defensive when anyone knocks them. I disagree with you on benching Reyes though. I beleive it was one of the Mets anouncers last night that brought up the point that Reyes does not respond well to being benched. He goes into a shell and takes him weeks to get over the fact that he was benched, he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to deal with that. I think he’s still young and you just have to leave him alone and eventually he’ll right the ship and do what Reyes does, and that’s create havoc to oposing teams and pitchers. Just plain old gowing pains.

        • miker94 says:

          i suppose that’s true. my main point though was to bench a few key guys. after all, everything else that has been attemped by willie thus far hasn’t worked, so why not try something new? can’t hurt and things can’t get any worse. so he benches delgado and the mets win. let’s hope it’s a continuing trend.

        • NadyFan says:

          Agree, no argument from me. Your point in general about benching a few key players is exactly what was needed. I also have to watch what I say on here because some times I do get too much on Delgado but I truely believe this team was built around a productive clean-up hitter and Delgado is just not that kind of player anymore. I realize no one saw this coming so soon……………his decline I mean. Omar was banking on at least another couple of years. Some teams get by without a Big Time Clean-up hitter (marlins come to mind) but those teams are built differently, they play for contact and forcing the play and moving runners over. The Mets were built in Omar’s vision as an American-League type line-up with your proto-typical clean-up hitter in the middle. I will lay off Delgado though as long as Willie never bats him forth again!!

        • miker94 says:

          i’m with you on that!

  14. SantanaCYYOung says:

    evans looks overmatched (too bad fmart got hurt, i wonder if they would have brought him up if he didn’t).

    easley should not be batting 5th (in any lineup)

    i’d bat beltran second for a few games just to shake it up

    can jose valentin play 1st or any corner outfield spot and how far is he from being recalled?

    something i was thinking about as it happened, i.e. not a second guess, why didn’t willie pinch hit for evans in the 7th (or 6th) when the bases were loaded and two outs and a righty pitching and the possibility of a defensive sub the next inning anyway?

    • TenTonHammer says:

      Valentin is going to spend some time in Triple-A. I think he played a little right field in the past few years.

    • sherlockcollector says:

      That’s what I suggested too [I think after your comment]

    • Don Hahn says:

      Valentin was playing first in Spring Training, I have a feeling he can play anywhere defensively, I hope Pelfrey and Maine watched Santana, and saw how after Reyes made an error, he didn’t fold up like a tent, he settled down, and picked up his team mate, and got out of the inning

    • WhatASpot says:

      Are we really getting our hopes up for 97 year old Jose Valentin? Bring up Carp or that Val guy, whatever.

    • metsrule77 says:

      Who would you have pinch hit there? If you pinch hit Chavez than you have to double switch another position. If you pinch hit Schneider then you have to double switch with Chavez to play lf. Either way you have to use 2 players from your bench and then your left with a shorter bench. When you have Church home and you can’t use your last catcher thats 2 players short. You have to let Evans hit there and then you double switch him out so your only using 1 player from the bench incase the game goes into extras or you need a big pinch hit at bat in the 8th inning.

      • lineshottorightandchurchmakesthecatch says:

        isn’t casenova still up?

        • metsrule77 says:

          yes he’s up so if they used him then schneider would not be used, if they pinch hit schneider than Casanova would not be used so with church gone you can’t use 2 people in that spot (1 to pinch hit for evans and 1 to be a defensive replacement) because that only leaves Delgado and the 3rd catcher left on the bench. And willie won’t use the 3rd catcher incase the starter gets hurt.

  15. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    We’re not in position to pick and choose how we get our wins at this point. I liked how they responded when the fish edged closer with a few key insurance runs and 2 out RBI’s. We all love the games where we beat up on the other team, but winning close games counts just as much in the standings.

  16. c.1970 says:

    I hope if the game is lopsided on Wednesday, someone on the Mets does a few brushbacks, too. Maybe Maine can send the same message he sent a few weeks ago.

  17. mrosey says:

    It was so good to hear Howie Rose say “Put it in the Books” once again. Hopefully, we’ll hear that many (maybe like 70) more times this summer.

  18. Delgado wasn’t there to make critical errors, and teh rest is history

    • NadyFan says:

      You’re 100% right bxsci insight.

      Delgado could not hurt this team tonight, any wonder why they won?

  19. stone11375 says:

    good job guys….now do it again

  20. Valintin should take some reps at 1st

  21. WozzyBear says:

    Anyone catch Santana in the post game press conference? He came out wearing an enormous cast on his left arm…..

    Thankfully, he was just joking around….Nearly gave me a heart attack.

  22. losmets5 says:

    Did anyone else notice how Ramirez jogged way too slowly when he doubled off Chavez? That was sooo uncalled for. And they say the Mets are too much.

    • metsfanmurph says:

      More importantly did anyone see Reyes jogging to third base on Castillo’s bunt in the 1rst. If Miller comes up with that ball cleanly he he out due to lack of hustle.

      • metsgo says:

        Reyes is the one who needs to join delgado on the bench 3 errors in 3 games I beleive his 7th for the year some time to watch on the bench might do him good .

        But have no fear ollie will implde tommorow and well be calling for willies head tommorow .

  23. zen says:

    trade for sean casey. keep delgado on the bench or cut him. let him sign on with another contender to dh.

    keep it going with the super-subs. mets fans need new faces to pull for. guys who come with no expectations. just make reyes, wright, and beltran the only constants in the line-up until church returns.

    • NadyFan says:

      Don’t forget Church!

      Agree, Delgado should be benched and maybe only play against certain right handers who he has good career numbers against.

    • NadyFan says:

      Sorry, didn’t catch your last sentence regarding Church.

  24. metsfanmurph says:

    they still suck

  25. DMAT89 says:

    sean casey? no thanks

    • zen says:

      i was going to go with lou gehrig, but it’s pretty clear the mets need a gritty, consistent contact hitter like casey who will come cheap along with a great clubhouse presence.

      • KinersKornerman says:

        Interesting choice. Would you give up prospects for him?

        • zen says:

          ‘b’ level prospect. maybe a guy like wise. he barely plays for the red sox.

        • Don Logan says:

          Boston isn’t going to weaken their bench in a quest to win another title to help out the mets. casey is not available.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          Everyone is available for the right price . . . though the Mets really don’t have much to offer. Maybe they’d like a nice, FREE Delgado for their bench?

          Oh, sorry, this is the Other Evil Empire, so money is no object. . . .

  26. m00kie says:

    does willie get credit for this one w/ the shakeup lineup? Or do we just participate in one-sided bashing these days? Been away for a few days..

    • kjmcc0729 says:

      Why should willie get credit for this? he doesn’t hit. he doesn’t pitch. he is not a player.

    • NadyFan says:

      Yes, if we’re going to bash him when things go wrong, then we need to own up and give him credit when he does something right that actually works. I just hope that he continues to realize that the “Old” way is no way ay all. Sitting Delgado was the best move he’s made all season and by no coincidence the mets won. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what a difference removing Delgado’s dead weight from that line-up makes.

      • toomanyuniforms says:

        Hold on. A bunch of know-nothing fans call for Delgado’s head for weeks, Willie finally sits him, the team wins, and we’re throwing laurels at Willie? Give me a break. Giving Willie credit for this is like giving a perfect attendance award to a kid who misses the first two months. Additionally, the sample size of one, with Santana pitching and a lefty on the mound doesn’t do much for me.

        No one blames him for each and every loss, individually. It’s the 77-83 body of work (oops, sorry, 78) + one historic collapse that people cite.

  27. kjmcc0729 says:

    Tatis had earned more playing time earlier, but for some reason was not getting it. It will be interesting to see if they go with the same lineup tomorrow or one just without Delgado. If they go with the latter, tatis had better be in the lineup. put evans at first and let tatis play left. my concern is that witless willie will put his boy easley at first and leave tatis out.

    as far as this win, it was a decent one. they are supposed to win when santana pitches. the litmus will be tomorrow.

    • JSC1968 says:

      Evans??? He looks like a lost sheep at the plate.

      It’s easy to say, stay with the group you had tonite, but like the stock market, past performance is no guarantee of future success.

      Though I think we should ride the Castro train for awhile.

      • Don Hahn says:

        Yeah, I would say Evans is looking a tad over matched, I’m sure with Jose Valentin playing in the minors, he’s just keeping his spot warm, I think they want Jose here for a lot of reasons, mostly in the clubhouse, plus he can play so many positions and has a little pop

      • Don Hahn says:

        Castro better catch, another lefty tomorrow in Olsen , I love Schneider, but our lineup is dying for offense, that Castro can provide, and Ramon seems to have a good chemistry with Oliver Perez, he had some of his better games with Castro behind the dish, Willie has to learn to ride the hot bat, hopefully that came up in Monday’s meeting

  28. metsfanmurph says:

    This team managed to have a lifeless victory.

  29. JSC1968 says:

    Am I freaking crazy?

    All I’m reading here is Delgado sucks, Delgado sucks. Keep Benching Delgado.

    How about JSC you were right about Schneider he sucks.

    People are pissed at Delgado for batting .138 the last week or so. But you know who leads the team in HR & RBI’s over that span … DELGADO.

    What is Schnider batting .050 HR 0 RBI 0.

    Now Delgado’s sub Easley is batting .216 on the season .125 over the last week and while he played well tonite, he’s no real improvement over Delgado.

    Whereas Schneider’s alternate Castro is batting .400 on the season and .571 in the last week.

    I think it’s clear who should be sitting tomorrow … BOTH OF THEM!!!

    BTW, good job by Willie shaking up the lineup.

    • JSC1968 says:

      I said on this blog in March that I thought Castro should be the starter and Schneider the sub, and even with the 2 passed balls I still think that’s true.

      • Don Hahn says:

        I think if our offense is clicking, and we are in position to carry a bat, Schneider defense and the way he handles the pitchers is priceless, but we are fortunate to have the luxuary of having Castro to provide good defense and a nice bat, he seems to break down after 150-200 ABs

    • NadyFan says:

      Agree, Castro is the best offensive catcher on this team, it’s too bad he can’t stay healthy. I agree with you, we should give him more playing time. I believe the idea starting the season was for Schneider and Castro to split the playing time but then Castro got hurt. Let’s hope Willie at least platoons them. castro’s knock has never been his hitting, the guy can hit. It’s his defense that’s lacking.

  30. GregB says:

    “In fact, I see no reason why Willie Randolph should change the lineup tomorrow.”

    I don’t either, but Willie can’t leave well-enough alone. He’ll change it up just to show who’s in charge – his gut.

    • KinersKornerman says:

      What if Ryan Church is available?

      • GregB says:

        Church couldn’t use another night off?

        • KinersKornerman says:

          I’d rather have a dizzy Ryan Church in RF than continue the Nick Evans experiment in LF. Keep Tatis in the other corner OF spot. Makes a better lineup.

        • GregB says:

          I’d rather wait for Church to be 100%.

          Evans has had 1 great game and 3 o-fer games. I’d like to see him get a few more chances to adjust.

          Another lefty is going tomorrow (Olsen). Stick with the same lineup.

    • pessimetfan1 says:

      thank god delgado was benched. it really made me feel better about the inning knowing he wasn’t coming up. Im not sure this win does anything for anyone considering it was all the scrubs that came thru with the clutch hits. honestly, i think therein lies the problem with this team..it sounds ridiculous, but I would probably rather have our backup catcher at the plate in a big spot over our cleanup hitter.

      • NadyFan says:

        Delgado is no longer a clean-up hitter it’s sad to say. The guy had a great career but time always wins out. that’s what happens when you have an honest ball player who doesn’t take steroids! He’s playing now exactly how he should be for his age. If he took the easy way out and took some roids trust me he would be putting up Mark Mcguire numbers at this point.

        • metsgo says:

          The problem is we have no real cleanup hitter,

          Thats what this team really needs .Beltran should be a #2 hitter church#3 Wright #5 whoevers at first #6 schnieder or castro #7 Castillo # 8.
          The problem is that alou is no longer a homerun threat and pagan has no power .So if they ever get there heads out of there a?? they will make a trade for a real clean up hitter
          Another problem is that they have no one to trade especially when they need a solid # 3 pitcher cause you no pedro will be on the dl in a month again.
          Mark my words when the reds totaly collapse the will make amove for Dunn or the pirates Bay both who will suck in NY.

  31. Mex_17 says:

    It’s so much better without Delgado around. For the love of god, get rid of him. At least the team is more fun to watch and root for.

    • JSC1968 says:

      Can we chill with the Delgado bashing? As it stands right now he is on pace for at least 24 and 75 RBI’s, but more than likely 27-29 and 85-90 RBI’s, even in his good seasons he is drastically better in the 2nd than the 1st.

      So relax.

      • zen says:

        it’s not bashing, per se. it’s time for a change. delgado is a good guy who basically put up 35hr 110rbi for a decade.

        i like him. it just appears that making the playoffs in 2006 for the first time and performing well was enough to give delgado closure to his career.

        he signifies what’s wrong with this team. an older player with a huge contract that hasn’t played the leadership role that would have helped guys like reyes, beltran, and ollie.

        i actually feel bad for him. with that great career he’s going out in a negative fashion. it’s clear he never wanted to play in ny. cutting him gives him a chance to go over to an al team to dh for a contender and lets the mets move on with wright as their leader.

      • NadyFan says:

        I hope you’re right but I think we’re witnessing the end of a very good career. As long as he bats down in the batting order and not clogg up the middle of the line-up. The bigger problem is that we’ve been lacking another quality righ-handed bat in the line-up because of alou’s injury. Church’s return will be a big lift but we still need another quality right-handed bat to balance everything out.

      • Don Hahn says:

        I agree, Delgado isn’t the main problem here, but he should not be playing against lefties, and day games after night games, his bat speed just seems better with more time off, and if we can get a little lighning in the bottle with Tatis, lets run with it, lets see what Tatis can do with 100 ABs over the season, probablt similar numbers that Easley gave us last year

  32. JSC1968 says:

    BTW, Castillo has made some really stellar defensive plays lately and Reyes has hit in 12 straight and made a nice play to save Santana in the 2nd.

    Nice game for the both of them.

    • Don Hahn says:

      hey strong defense up the middle is so important, I know Reyes is going thru a defensive slump, he still gets to balls most SS could only dream about, Beltran’s catch in the alley tonight, and Castillo is so fluid at turning the DP, he’s not the same player he was in 2000, but as the season goes on and his knees get stronger, he’ll only get better

  33. D in Ben Lomond says:

    too much delgado-hate here. Maybe he needs days off to be effective. Willie needs to mix him in and out often. It will pay off. Lets have a little faith.

    Delgado is getting a day off again tomorrow because the Mets are facing another tough lefty. Willie’s finally warming up to the idea of playing matchups with delgado. Its not because he “sux” but because he isn’t effective against lefties. He should also ride the pine when we are trying to get a stronger defense. I like having a SS at first in those situations.

    • NadyFan says:

      I agree. I’m as guilty as anyone on here regarding getting on Delgado’s case. It’s only because I really believe this team was built around your classic clean-up hitter. Delgado is no longer that type of hitter. I also agree with you that at this stage in his career he would be better served spot starting him according to pitching match-up. If you play him everyday he is too exposed. Play him mostly against right handers and against any pitcher he has good career numbers against. Also pull him in later innings (with a lead) for defense unless we’re behind and might need his bat later on. We need to come to a conclusion that he is no longer an every day player but could prove valuable in the over all scheme.

  34. methead says:

    I have been a willie basher for 3 years but ii want to remain positive here. With that said, there is 0 chance Delgado is on the bench tomorrow. He is starting. Tatis will play, and in left. I would prefer Willie have some balls and play the same players, butt he wont. With that said, I commend him for playing evans everyday. now, bench him please. LOL

    lets give delgado a break here….the man in on pace to hit 25-30 hrs 80-90 rbis. you are not going to get that from any of the bench players. Some of the guys on this blog just dont think.

    Lets get them tomorrow. I really believe in this team, regardless.

  35. Flushing_is_Burning says:

    glad we finally got one… not to be nitpicky, but was tonight Reyes’s 3rd error in a row? where is the D?

    • KinersKornerman says:

      Reyes is no Julio Lugo, but he’s making a move on Hanley for most errors by a SS.

  36. zen says:

    maybe delgado just needs to eat more carrots as his numbers are much better during day games the past few years :)

  37. shiprdr19 says:

    test

  38. shiprdr19 says:

    Let’s hope Tatis can stay hot while Church recovers.

    • NadyFan says:

      Let’s hope Church comes back and picks up where he left off. If he doesn’t it would be understandable though. Might take him a while to get his timing back but I have a strong suspicion this guy will go 3 for 4 in his first game back. The guy is a throw back type player.

      • The Glider says:

        From the article in the NY Times I read tonight, Church needs some time off and needs to be symptom free for a number of days before he should play.

        I would get used to seeing Evans, Tatis, and Endy in the meantime.

        • NadyFan says:

          If that’s the case then there’s reason to be taking chances especially with that type of injury. Bring on tatis! I can’t believe I’m saying that, who would’ve thunk it!

        • The Glider says:

          If Alou continues to have health problems, maybe we’ll even seen F-Mart after the All-Star break?

        • Don Hahn says:

          I would think you would see Murphy before F-Mart, Murphy is older, and I feel they are going to be very protective of him, unless he goes crazy down in AA a la Gregg Jefferies

        • The Glider says:

          What’s Murph’s deal? I really don’t know much about him.

        • Don Hahn says:

          well I’ve never have had the thrill of seeing him play, but from what I’ve read , and saw in Spring Training, kind of a jack of all trades, 3rd, 1st, and outfield, I get the feeling a TY Wigginton type, who would look good on our team now coming off our bench , maybe sharing time at first

        • NadyFan says:

          Lord knows we could use some of that young blood on this team. There still might be hope after all as far as having some young studs down in the minor leagues. That is if Omar doesn’t trade them away in some panick move.

  39. playmaker3128 says:

    Mets made the right move in letting church stay home tonight. I would think theres a possibility he could be back thursday.

    As far as tonight, great game. we did everything right. The biggest thing that we did, that we haven’t been doing is tacking on runs. Big two out hits by tatis and castro. In the end those were the difference in the ballgame.

    When church comes back i’d still like to see him in the 2 hole, and also tatis if he keeps hitting this way will play until alou comes back, and rightfully so.

    Oh and how many balls have we hit hard this year right at someone. I can’t even count. Hopefully things even out and things start going our way a bit.

    Now lets carry this momentum and win the dam game tommarow! Lets start a big win streak.

  40. The Glider says:

    I was listening to Jon Heyman on Mike and the Mad Dog on the FAN, and the way he reports it, it appears as though the Latinos in the dugout don’t really dig Willie. If I were to speculate, I would say because he gets on them behind closed doors and they don’t like that.

    I noticed from the 2008 Democratic campaign that Latinos have been slow to go to Obama and are more loyal to Clinton. Is there a racial thing between Latinos and African-Americans that has found it’s way into the Mets dugout? Neither Beltran, Delgado and Reyes appear to have great affection for Willie. I also hear Valentin’s relationship with Willie was a little cool too.

    • metsfanmurph says:

      Of course there is, I have been saying this for three years. Latinos don’t listen to African Americans in the police departments, public works, McDonalds, and baseball.

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Any tension among a small group of pros like that is going to be personal, not political, as it were. Also, there’s a language barrier.

  41. NadyFan says:

    Unfortunately there might be some truth to that although we need tread very lightly here as that is definitely not the politically correct thing to say out loud. Unfortunately Race is still an issue in this country and sport is not immune to the social problems at large.

  42. ryno says:

    I’ll have to disagree with Matt that this is the type of game we were waiting for, other than the win of course.

    I felt on edge all game and kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and it almost did with Reyes’ error and then the ball Evans had to jump for. Strong defensive plays, looking alert? Not to me. But a win is a win and I’ll take it.

    Lets take two of three tonight!

  43. metsfanmurph says:

    I cannot believe that I would say this with a straight face but this team really needs Barry Bonds. He would take some heat off the poor play of the Mets, he is a winning player, and he even played more games than Alou last year.

    • Flushing_is_Burning says:

      uhhh no… we have enough going on as it is, we don’t need to add another act to the circus

  44. FireOmar says:

    Benching Delgado – nice work Willie – finally a move us Met fans can get excited about, almost as good as a squeeze play.

    KEEP DELGADO AND HIS POOR ATTITUDE AND BAD PLAY ON THE BENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Willie – keep it up – don’t go down without a fight!