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The Game:
The Mets (25-26) begin a four-game series versus Dodgers (26-26) tonight at Shea Stadium, starting at 7:10 pm EST.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Luis Castillo
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- LF Fernando Tatis
- RF Endy Chavez
- C Brian Schneider
- P Claudio Vargas
The Pitchers:
RHP Claudio Vargas (1-2, 3.93 ERA) toes the rubber for the Mets. Vargas was stellar in his last start on May 24 versus the Rockies, earning his first victory as a Met, allowing two runs on four hit and a walk while striking out three over 7.0 IP. In eight career games, six starts, versus the Dodgers, Vargas is 2-2 with a 4.29 ERA.
RHP Brad Penny (5-5, 5.32 ERA) makes his 12 start of the season for the Dodgers. Penny took the loss in last start on May 24 versus the Cardinals surrendering four runs on four hits while striking out five and walking two over 7.0 IP. Left-handed batters are hitting .361 versus Penny this season. He is 5-12 with a 6.21 ERA in 20 career starts versus the Mets.
The Notes:
David Wright is 25-for-83 (.304) with 4 2B, 3 HR and 10 RBI over his last 20 games. He is batting .529 with 2 HR and 6 RBI in 17 career versus Penny.
The Mets bullpen has allowed two runs over its last 17.0 IP and retired 24 of the last 25 batters they’ve faced.
Juan Pierre is batting .529 (9-for-17) with 4 2B, 1 3B in his career versus Vargas.Andre Ethier is batting .412 in his last 34 at-bats. He is 2-for-8 with a homerun in his career versus Vargas.
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…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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Only play Delgado against righties from this point forward, if at all
Love it…. DelCrapo back in the lineup. Hopefully we can pull out 3 straight games.
Considering RHP on the mound and our current team, Delgado has to play tonight. We have got to get another hitter. Believe it or not we need a LH hitter. I mentioned this earlier but Raul Ibanez would be perfect. Plays OF and 1B and is a good hitter. Should come cheap.
Raul plays 1st?
He hasn’t hit for the past 3 weeks, but getting him in a lineup that isn’t horrific might help.
Seriously, I’m in Seattle now. Just saw them beat the Red Sox. They’re all batting .210.
I was thinking the same thing earlier, not about Ibanez, but about us needing a bat. I just don’t see how we have the pieces to get one.
And I wouldn’t say Ibanez plays OF. He stands out there, but have you seen his defense?
We want Adam Dunn. Say it with me now.
Adam Dunn. Adam Dunn.
Nice sound to it, no?
Who is there to trade? And Dunn would drive everyone crazy in a month if he came here.
Niese, maybe? Or maybe we don’t make a trade. But Dunn > Ibanez, and probably will cost the same.
He’ll only drive the dumb people crazy. OBP of 400 right now, who cares if he strikes out a lot? Plus, this is very anecdotal, but against us at least, he always does a decent job of driving in runs when the situation calls for not swinging for the fences.
Dunn is a good player, he has a high OBP, tons of power, it doesn’t matter how else he makes his outs since he’s a run producer, we’re not asking him to move the runner over, and at least he doesn’t hit into DP’s either. That being said, we’re not getting him, the Reds are not selling until the trade deadline. Teams don’t just give up players in May/June anymore with all the parity, and there also is money to be made.
I would love Adam Dunn but I don’t think it’s worth it to deplete the farm system any further. Especially if it would cost a pitcher, that’s the last thing we need is to trade pitchers.
you’re right, I should have added as my other caveat to us not getting Dunn is that we have don’t have enough to trade for him, and what we do have, we shouldn’t trade, and the Reds will not let Dunn go for nothing.
Ibanez has played over 100 games at 1B. Plus he would cost us all of about 10 bats.
sucks that delgado is back but i like the tatis/chavez outfield combo
he’s baaaack
you mention David Wright’s stats over the last 20 years as if he is on a hot streak. He has been mediocre at best
Just compare Wright to this point last year.
20 years? how did he do in YMCA t-ball? I bet it was quite a hot streak
he obviously meant games (not years) but your comment made me “lol”
i know, im just a jerk like that…
Here is Raul’s line 24runs 7dingers 34rbi 1 steal .263
wouldn’t go as far as lumping him in with all the other seattle 210 hitters. He hit 21 dingers last year with 105 rbi’s and 33 dingers the year before. But he is 35 and I’m not sure he comes cheap, but he may be worth a shot if they would be willing to give him up for b prospects.
He had a great 2 weeks early in the year. Since then, he’s been more or less worthless.
His ops year after year is well under .900. He’s certainly an upgrade over endy, but between his defense and the amount he’ll cost, he’s not really worth it. Also, he is old.
Yeah, he is better than the rest of their offense, you’re right about that.
As I said above. Adam Dunn.
Mo Vaughn as a Met >>> Adam Dunn
That’s… not true.
Unless we’re talking pure size, in which case yes, Mo Vaughn is significantly greater than Adam Dunn.
Do you not understand how much more Dunn would cost than Ibanez? Ibanez could most likely be had for a Castillo type package where Dunn would cost FMart.
so after that trade, does that mean you are moving to Seattle as well?
Swell, another Delgado-bashing thread. I hope you will all have the decency to swallow your words when he picks it up tonight against Penny.
what will YOU do when he goes 1-5, 3K’s, 5 LOB, 2 misplays in the field?
Just 5 LOB? I would imagine that # to be around 7-8, like it has been for the last 3 weeks…
2 two-out hits, 1 run, a couple of brilliant defensive plays – I’d gladly take that from my starting 1B – especially when he is putting up decent power numbers. But I suppose you will continue to find some phantom “attitude” issue or some such nonsense. Go Delgado!
I don’t have a problem with Delgado in the lineup vs RHP, but why is he batting 5th?
i bumbed a light from Lee Mazzillii today. he is much bigger in person than he otherwise seems. he looks pretty jacked. was walking outside my building presumably on his way to the SNY building. I had a butt in my mouth but no light, i was looking for a fellow smoker, and saw mazz. so i asked him for a light. he stopped, looked at me, and then just offered his already lit cigarette. i took it from his hand and lit it to mine and then he said, i’m done with it, and walked away. i bet a ton of those 80’s mets smoke. baseball is the one sport where you can get away with being a smoker.
youre gonna die early
Dude, that story is so TOUCHing.
I enjoyed it.
Don’t you watch that commercial with the amputated finger lady?
Can we not say “toes the rubber” anymore? I keep getting an image of naked people, and it isn’t pretty.
That might be the creepiest post ever
Was at that amazing game last night, lets hope they continue it.
Gotta love how we can never get 20k people in the stands for a weekday game, yet the announcer will say “45+” are in the stands. This will be very embarrassing when citi opens next year and it’s only half full.
And this is why I will not worry about getting tickets to Mets games next year, unless we win it all this year, even that probably wouldn’t bring out the fans during the week.
Also why the whining by guys like “upperdeckdweeler’ about the reduced capacity at Citi is absurd.
woulda had him
I swear to god, from now on, 5 infielders against Pierre, I’m so sick of that little gnat
NICE PLAY!
endy!
I love that!
EN-DY CHA-VEZ! Clap, clap, clapity clap.
wow great play by endy, but brian schneider is a beast blocking the plate
This sucks. The game isn’t on the Dodgers station, FSN Prime Ticket, which I get here in Vegas and the series isn’t on Extra Innings. Never get it when a west coast team comes to play in NY. I’m stuck watching the whole series on Gameday except for Sunday nights game.
They’re on Extra Innings. Or is vegas considered part of Dodgers’ area?
Part of Dodgers area. It shows up that the game is on but when you go to the channel it says “this program is not available in your area”
bummer
dude…go to a sports book a watch it.
free drinks.
Reyes’ poor defense has overshadowed his bat coming to life the past few weeks.
nice swing
i cant believe he just swang at that, where the hell is easley???
FYI …. It’s Gregg Jefferies*
he can’t spell “swung” correctly, either.
Evidently two nights on the pine did nothing to improve Delgado’s plate discipline.
you can’t improve if you’re finished
Kinda hard to sit and get your timming back. That is why it is so hard to be a pinch hitter.
what’s his excuse for the other 200 games he’s sucked?
Hey I never said i liked Delgado. The other 200 AB’s have to do with being old. He’s just not got it anymore.
I was responding to the post commenting that the benching did not improve his pitch selection.
he had plenty of time last night to read his post AB diary entries on Brad Penny.
Just no excuse for swinging at a pitch like that. It’s as if Carlos decides he’s going to swing before the pitch regardless.
that wasn’t just a bad at bat, that was horrific.
great at bat Delgado, if that third strike was anymore in the dirt it’d be in China
That at bat almost looked like Delgado was trying to strikeout. I can’t believe how lost he just looked at the plate.
I am calling you out tonight. I am going to try and make you a new man.
For every negative post you make you MUST make 2 positive post.
I don’t really think that will improve your view of the Mets BUT it will be so hard for you to find positive things to say you will just stop posting in general. ;)
was anyone even surprised by delgado.it would have been shocking if he got on base.
Here we go again. Same old Delgado. The “feel Good” story we had over the last two days is slipping away with the “Human Rally Killer” Mr. Delgado.
How pathetic!
easley
easley
easley
easley
easley
del-god-no
I’m starting to feel sorry for him. That’s how bad it’s gotten.
Don’t feel sory for, feel sory for the team.
I find it hard to feel sorry for a guy stealing 16 million dollars. Shoulda gave the curtain call if he wanted any slack
Same here. It’s time to release him. Sad thing is no other team will sign him because he’s finished. Time to retire Mr. Delgado.
Yankees may bite if he goes on waivers.
are there any rumors floating about a new firstbaseman?
Easley’s been terrible so far this year, too.
Delgado, sadly, is as good an option as we have against righthanded pitching.
You just said in a nut shell why this team is going to have a hard problem making the post seasopn this year if Delgado is the best we have at 1st base………………a power position.
I think with Reyes, Wright, Beltran, and Church playing well, they can overcome Delgado with their pitching. Anyone who came into this season actually thinking Delgado was going to turn back the clock was deluding themselves.
honestly,i wouldnt mind tatis at first when church is back.
Tatis last night got 1 hit last night, albeit the winning hit, but he was 1 for 5 last night. Matt Lindstrom (former Met) who throws 99 mph made Tatis look like a minor leaguer. Get off Delgados back, we have nowhere to go to get a bat (Scott Hatteberg hitting .175 or some crap). Who is there to bring up? There is no one proven we can put there. So get off his back. Also, the 16 million dollar crap wahh i dont feel sorry for him. He earned the money by hitting 400 plus HRs and 100 plus RBIs a season. If you wanna cry about his contract, contact his dumba** agent or talk to Mike Weiner or Don Fehr. It’s their fault he makes that kind of money
The only good thing about Willie’s ass being in the frying pan is that eventually he’s going to come to the realization that it’s either kiss Delgado’s butt and go down in flames, or cut the dead weight and try to save his job.
great point
Self preservation will win out and Willie will bench Delgado if Omar doesn’t do it for him.
I still don’t believe it. I think Willie wanted to bench Delgado all along but did not feel comfortable doing it because of Omar AND because he was too afraid for his job. What would have happen if he was still affraid of losing his job and he benched Delgado and we kept losing? I think his thought process was that mgmt would think he was being unfair to Delgado and not trying to put his best lineup out there.
His best line-up IS with Delgado out.
I agree, however at the time I would have kept running him out there too because of lack of replacement I think at this point a platoon is the next step and then release.
Loney is hitting poorly on the road and great at home. knock on wood.
Connect Four …. That was a good game …
this conversation between keith, gary, and ron has been classic. talking about roommates on road trips and connect 4
They are definitely three of a kind.
delgado is gone after the the season,i dont see why willie wouldnt bench him or he goes on the DL
I personally think deep down inside Willie is hoping Delgado gets hurt and has to go on the DL. That would make his job that much easier.
I read on the Main Page that the Mets are thinking about leaving Pelfrey in the rotation and putting Vargas in the pen. I think I like Vargas in the pen in the Darren Oliver role but it does leave Perez and Pelfrey in the rotation. Both are very shaky and the Mets need 6 or 7 innings from their starters consistently to get on a real roll. Vargas seems to know how to control the game and that’s a trait that Pelfrey and perez have yet to demonstrate.
Any thoughts?
Perez needs to stay in the rotation. IMO, Plefrey should go to AAA to work on learning how to pitch, and Vargas should stay in the rotation, and Muniz in the pen.
Agree. Pelfrey would be the most likely to go down. Although Perez can be awful at times I feel he’s more likely (capable) of throwing a good game wehre as Pelfrey is consistantly bad.
Are we really discussing moving a guy that won 15 games and had our lowest ERA last season to the bullpen?
Not I. Pelfrey should be the odd man out.
Rather have Vargas as long-man in the bullpen. The Mets haven’t really had a solid one since Oliver and I want Pelfrey to really get a shot this year so we can get a better idea of what we got with him.
I just cant believe how quick people are to jump off the Perez ship. Yes think Perez is very inconsistant but he has the 2nd most talent on the staff. That alone makes him more worthy of trotting out there than Pelfrey or Vargas.
Vargas is just better right now than Pelfrey. We do not need a long man right now. We need fresh arms in the pen. Heilman can be a long man if needed. Our starters rarely go out early enough to need a true long man to pitch 3+ innings.
Perez may never win 15 games again but the issue isn’t putting Perez in the pen.
The Mets are planning, at this moment, to keep Pelfrey in the rotation and move Vargas to the pen. Which means Muniz goes down.
Although I think Vargas would be a great long man, I’m not sure if I still want Pelfrey and Perez as 4th and 5th starters when Pedro gets back because you don’t know what they are going to give you.
One shaky starter is enough when you need to get wins in bunches.
The Mets don’t have a guy who can go 4 or 5 innings in an emergency, they just don’t. All things being equal I’d rather have Vargas start, but with Pedro coming back, I’d rather just use the 5th spot to give Pelfrey time to work out his problems.
We don’t really know what the Mets have planned. If Vargas continues pitching well that would be silly.
How often do they need a guy to go 4 or 5 innings?
Then you might as well cut Pelfrey because his confidence will be shot if he gets taken out of the rotation again.
You have a point there. Besides, Perez is most likely gone next season. Borris is going to ask way too much money.
ooooo, poor baby. You think his confidence would be bad enough going out and sucking each night. I don’t put any stock in that, either he can pitch or not. This is NY and we don’t have time right now to keep running Pelfrey out there to “learn” to pitch and protect his ego when there are better alternatives. It’s the same as the Delgado situation just reversing the ages. This is NY and the best player has to play.
I don’t think it’s worth it, you’re not replacing him with Juan Marichal, it’s Claudio Vargas.
It’s worth it if Pelfrey is pitching the way that he is. Vargas has good stuff and seems to be more consistant. I would at least rid him out.
If based on what we have seen we are counting on Pelfrey to be anymore than a #5 again next season we would be in trouble either way.
Agree, In a perfect world the best player should play, period. But we all know money comes into play in baseball and sports in general. If the best player (player who is performing the best) should play then Delgado should be riding the pine. The Mets will give him every single opportunity to prove he can still play if only because of the 16M he’s making this year. Trust me, if Delgado was just another player making next to nothing he would not be playing.
1 stat,Pelfrey WHIP 1.78, Vargas 1.04.
We can’t have a double standard. We want Easley and Tatis to play because they have shown fire and have earned that right over Delgado. But Pelfrey gets a pass?
We are going to go nuts when we have Pelfrey, Perez and Santana up against the Phillies and knowing we are only going to get one game.
Vargas has shown he can keep this team in games and that’s what you need in the back end of the rotation.
However, I do love the idea of a great long man. It’s an interesting debate.
I disagree, Delgado would still have been playing because he was the best option.
Can someone look and see how many times a starter has pitched 4 or less innings this season?
Lets take last night for example. if Willie had a long man in the pen then he maybe he takes Perez out of the game after Beltran saves him in the 5th.
So thats your 4th starter, pitching with a lead, having his stuff together for all of 5 innings in a must win game.
You don’t have to have a long man come in in the 6th inning. That could have easily been Muniz or Smith then the same pen we used last night.
True but he may have brought him in the 5th if you knew he could get you to the 8th. Similar to how the Yankees used Ramiro Mendoza. Granted, that is American League but a long man can at times get you to the set up man instead of Willie trotting out 4 pitchers for four innings or Heilman pitching 2 innings.
To a guy who said it was a “double standard,” Tatis and Easley or old players, the point of playing Pelfrey is because he’s still young and can use this experience to grow as a potential top of the rotation starter. Completely different situation.
That just does not happen in the NL when you are down. I understand the idea of a long man but I just think its a wasted spot unless that guy is also a guy you use later in the game as well. Thus to me Heilman can do this just as well.
So Metsfan, we should be playing Evans at 1B?
God, you people and your crappy analogies. First off, Evans is not a top prospect like Pelfrey. Second, you can move Vargas (who’s looking great right now, by the way) to a long-man position, while Delgado really has no place besides first base. The upside of Pelfrey is much higher than Evans.
I’m sorry metsfan119, I thought the point of playing certain players was because they give you a chance to win. Pelfrey currently is not doing that. Why not play the players(old or young) that helps us win?
Pelfrey can pitch in the minors and the Mets could still determine what he his based on his performance. Clearly, the majors has been a tough go-round for Pelfrey.
Keep in mind also that Pelfrey pitched a lot last year and was terrible most of the time and that trend has continued this season.
I agree that Pelfrey has great stuff but there is something missing and he cannot be relied on for wins.
By the way, Kuo is the Dodgers long man and he’s pitching in the 5th. Torre has him in there so he won’t use several pitchers in one game. It’s a nice option to have.
Normally, I’d agree with playing the players that best give you the chance to win. However, I think this is a special case. Pelfrey is 24 years old, he’s not going to be a prospect much longer, I think that whatever instant advantage you get pitching Vargas over Pelfrey in the 5 spot is not not enough to warrant sending Pelfrey back down and potentially killing his career for good. Let’s be honest, Vargas has a shoe the size of Texas about to drop, let the guy go into the bullpen as a long-man, if it’s August and Pelfrey still has made no progress, then send him down. I think it’s worth the gamble to let Pelfrey get as much major league experience as he can to see if he can be a young pitching contributor to the Mets (something far more invaluable in baseball than a journeyman starter).
Granted, that makes sense but it makes sense for team that has 4 solid starters and is a few games over .500. The mets really don’t have the luxury right now to continue Pelfrey’s audition. Even the Yankees sent Kennedy down and went with Rasner because they knew Rasner could keep them in games.
Pelfrey has top of the rotation potential but the state of the team makes his starts must-win games and not a get-your-feet-wet learning experience.
Perez is already shaky, having two shaky starters is not ideal right now.
We both know bloggers’ importance of wearing multiple hats, in addition to playing a New York style devils advocate; therefore, I’m very much so looking forward to tonites Game-1 versus Torre’s Dodgers.
The dramatic and encouraging win makes us believe that a positive turnaround is upon us. Nevertheless, similar to the importance of shutting down an opponent during their next at-bat following a Mets’ run-scoring inning—is a game after an emotional win. Thus, the Metropolitans have an important challenge ahead of them tonite against the Dodgers.
I believe their first come-from-behind win when trailing entering the ninth in 24-games speaks volumes. And, to follow-up with a win tonite would be inspiring. The game is huge, and I truly believe—in its own way—that it’s a must-win. I’m happy to say that I do expect a solid effort. In addition, I’m feeling like it’s time for Nick Evans to kick the 0-13 funk since his double-happy opening-day and begin building some confidence.
Meet the Mets – Meet the Mets. Let’s Go!
They need to get to Penny early.
I wish Delgado could “clear his head” every night.
shortstop’s good
I have a feeling Reyes is about to do something.
I think its painfully obvious that Vargas has to remain in the rotation when Petey comes back Tuesday and that Pelfrey needs to be sent down to try an recapture whatever he had that made everyone think he was a great prospect because honestly for parts of the last 3 years i havent seen anything that would even give a hint that he should be so highly touted!
From what I’ve read Pelfrey had a pretty good curveball that he mixxed in with his above average fastball to keep hitters off balance. I think read he was averaging over 9 strike out per game. Then for some reason they made him stop throwing the curveball.
I find it strange that the Mets were so adamant about Jay horowitz wearing that orange blazer again, yet they come out in the horrible bruise caps after winning in the beautiful blue caps 2 nights in a row.
The bruise caps have to go!
Paul Lukas? Is that you?
no, but I read uniwatch everyday
Unrelated to the game ….
Did anyone read the article about what would happen if Gary Carter managed the Mets ?
Its on Page 2 by Jeff Pearlman …
Really Funny …
D-WRIGHT….
DWright !!
it’s a miracle!
Hojo needs to close Delgado’s stance. His hips fly WAY too early, even on Penny’s 95 mph fastball. Simple adjustment goes along way in a game of inches…
Someone on the SNY said ( I believe it was Keith) the reason he opened his stance so much (more than usual) is because he needs to cheat due to the loss of bat speed. He’s basically trying to cheat to catch up with the ball faster. That was Keith’s explanation.
woohoo, beltran cleared delgado, thats like clearing the pitcher these days, still is true even though he got a hit. pitcherrs get hits sometines too
glad to see beltrans only playing left and center tonight. last night he was playing all 3 outfield positions
give it up to delgado, mets fans
I can’r believe what I just Saw!!!
a glimpse of hope?
WOW, did Delgado run into Doc Brown and go back in time to make that play? WOW that was GREAT
He ACTUALLY got his jersey dirty. Unbelievable.
Bravo, Willie. Benching worked…
Willie, Willie, Willie.
OK. I’ll lay off Delgado for at least another two innings! LOL
Del-glovo!!!!
Willie = Genius
Gotta give credit where credit is due. Kudos to Carlos on that play.
Bench him tomorrow against the left hander and become even a BIGGER Genius!!
… in favor of Evans or Easley or somebody else? Just curious.
BTW, I’d love to get Nady back with the Mets.
Bah. Nady was hitting .160 with RISP when we traded him.
If his name were Bob instead of Xavier, nobody would want him.
Yes, Easley. It worked the previous past two nights.
WOW!! I am in shock. Was that really Betty Boop that made that play?
Kudos!
When Reyes goes the mets go
Dodgers look like a bad team.
great slap there slappy, nice job on the bases boys
i am lost, what just happened?
i mean, did i not see vargas ground out to end an inning, a commercial break, and then there are two on and two out…
ok guys, way to explain that before four runs scored!
(i’ll take them though!)
dude, I’m totally with you, I switched over to The Office, and then the next thing I know Castillo is up. I was thinking, “damn, Vargas doesn’t fool around.”
What happened? Didn’t Vargas ground out
ill be honest- i thought the inning was over too
catchers interference
see ya
and its OUTTA HERE
DWright!!!!!!
Ummm how the heck did Vargas and Reyes get on base? SNYHD went to commercial.
yeah they didn’t explain this either. or they did, but they weren’t on air yet.
That was SO weird. SNY did a FULL COMMERCIAL BREAK after the Vargas “groundout,” only to cut back and suddenly there’s 2 Mets on base. I was so confused.
Once the local cable operators take the commercials, they don’t cut out of it, even if SNY cuts out of their own break early. That’s why it looked like we caught Keith in the middle of a sentence.
I was on the phone and casually paying attention to the game… I saw the double play, then Vargas grounding out to end the inning and then they went to a break. A few minutes later, they’re back just as Castillo hits with two on base and they’re still in the bottom of the 4th… and the SNY scoreboard graphic looked different (why does that keep changing?).
I came on here to find out if I was imagining things… glad I wasn’t the only one who was confused.
Wow…best interruption of ads to see a cather’s interference extending an inning….ever!
You know, I get the point of sponsor’s commercials, but COME ON. Can they just cut back to the game when there’s a play going on ?????
what are you talking about?..I just bought 2 year supply of proceed during that commercial break.
Catcher’s interference on the Vargas Groundout.
Reyes singles.
Castillo doubles.
Wright homers.
Wright OWNS Penny
Wait what just happened? I switched the channel for a second after Vargas grounded out??? How are we still batting?
yeah i thought i was in the twilight zone i was going insane
I just heard something about catcher interference
Howie didn’t miss a beat on the old Am frequency
Brad Penny is the Mets’ biatch.
I hope Wright does not enter the Homerun Derby this year but if he does he should take Penny with him.
Eh, he’s not even making the AS team as of now.
He will. You got A-ramirez, Chipper and wright.
hell make it, just not as the starter
Things are looking good guys. And just think, we are getting Church, Alou and Pedro back soon!!!! I smell a big turn around witth team.
Oh, wow. This team is finally proving what they’re capable of. I was starting to think I’d never see it this season. . Another good series and we’ll actually be able to call it consistency, from the 2008 Mets.
I am loving this right now, reminding me of 06′ last night and tonight. LETS GO METS!!!!!!
Anyone remembers the Dodgers pitcher’s bat flip last year? And the Penny non-sense against Shawn Green?
Retribution, bitch.
You know Thats the second time in like a week that stupid SNY missed baseball. Other was when they thought willie was taking maine out and he stayed in
They came back in time for Jose’s AB – not too bad.
Catchers interference? Is it possible the Mets are starting to actually receive breaks?
just joined – how did they score those other 4 runs…??
KUO NO!!! NOt Kuo!!! Please anyone but him
I KNEW Kent was going yard there
Typical Kent.
oh boy, Vargas must’ve learned from the Tom Glavine school of lead holding
thats better than taking lessons from oliver perez
so true, I fully expected a shutout from Vargas, or at least 7 IP and 0 ER. Anything less is unacceptable.
Greatest second basement (offense wise) in the history of baseball. First ballot Hall of Famer.
No doubt
basement? lmao
I just noticed that! LOL Actually it sounds better that way reagrding Kent! lol.
What?!?!!?
You ever hear of Rogers Hornsby?
I could probably think of at least 10 2nd baseman I would rather have contribute to my offense than Jeff Kent. He’s a great hitter, but c’mon.
I’m speaking just strictly going by the numbers. More Homeruns and RBIs than any other in that position. That alone gets him into the Hall. I love Rogers Hornsby! In my opinion I’m with you, I believe Rogers was the greatest. But numbers wise, Kent is tops on the list.
he is the best POWER hitting 2nd baseman. not the best offensive 2nd baseman. more to ofense than just hitting. Kent is a bad baserunner and has no speed.
Regardless I’d still take Hornsby, Sandberg, Morgan, Robinson, and Alomar (cringe) over him. to name a few.
Rogers Hornsby
Hits…………………………….. 2,930
.AVG……………………………..358
OBP……………………………..434
SLG………………………………577
HR………………………………..301
RBI………………………………1,584
RUNS……………………………1,579
SB……………………………….135
Pretty incredible.
hornsby played in a different era when the double play was not emphasized (and also when i believe there were fewer lefthanded hitters) so defense at second base was not emphasized.
yeah, but this convo is specifically about offense.
if you throw defense into the equation, Jeff kent falls further down the list.
SNY really totally effed up there. on DVR you can see vargas hanging out around first strangely before the cut to commercial. then like 3 or 4 spots run, and when it comes back the booth is in mid sentence a full batter later with no mention of the interference or the interruption.
really terrible job.
On my feed, they came back in time for Jose and the explanation of catcher’s interference.
maybe it’s controlled by the cable provider? i have time warner in queens.
way to come back vargas!
Ergardo Alfanzo used to hold his own at 2B
Agree, Alfonzo was good, one of my favorite ball players.
He needs to get us through 2 more innings to give this bullpen a rest. I think he can make it.
Oops – or not….
Still think that?
HOW MNAY EFFIN HRS WILL THIS STAFF CONTINUE TO GIVE UP?!?!?!
it is gettin very ridic
I’m even willing to see wise come in here
All the way from the DL?
Hmmm. . . Might be difficult since he is on the DL.
Oh OH.
the mets have given up a lot of dingers this year- lets get out of this inning and tack on some more
w the invincible RP known as Kuo coming in? no chance of that
blake dewitt sucks against everyone else but the mets.
Part oif the mets problem is that they haven;t tacked on runs, and their ballpen has blown it, but I have a good feeling, lets go tack some more runs on
They will score more runs, it’s going to be one of those games.
Vargas is pitching like a guy who realized he had a 6 run lead and lost that lil bit of intensity….
Exactly! I was just going to type that.
uh oh, here we go again.
stop the negativity! Let’s turn the page Met fans, BELIEVE!
they’re winning 6-3 with their 5th starter facing the dodgers #1
We need one of those easy 14 – 7 wins.
Kuo reminds me of the villain from Bloodsport
chuckle
He’s name was BOLO Young from Bloodsport… He was a beast but Van Damn beat him up with the Van Daminator.. Jean Claud Van Damn = Original Mr. Monday Night.>>>
ECW…ECW…ECW…ECW…ECW…ECW…ECW.
ECW ECW ECW… SABU>>>>>>>>>
Keith Hernandez hates the Yankees. A true met.
He bleeds Orange and Blue. Well, maybe Red also for the Cardinals..
geez, wasn’t Kent just up?
ok, get him out now
Get the hook!
Does anybody know why the Jacket always puts his hand on the pitcher when he visits the MOund???
whoa
I LIKE THIS GUY!!! Hope he sticks around instead of Delgado….Huh, this IS delgado?
Delgado looking like he’s days back with the Blue Jays… Way to Go CarloS… Support Carlos Delgado Met fans>>>
what goes? gameday has had schneider up for the past 20 mins
vargas pitched well but its really too bad that he couldnt have gone a little bit deeper. our pen went 6 innings last night
What’s goin’ on, is Vargas gettin’ knocked around now? Stupid Gameday is stuck on Schneider’s at-bat.
lets go mets,i have a better feeling about these games then I have in a very long time. and not to mention all the fire willie guys have disappeared
They are still here chomping at the bit. Don’t provoke them.
Yeah, I’m beginning to wonder whether some of those Willie haters have just given up and either gave up on the season already or just flip-flopped to root for the Yankees (Go Rays!)…
Willie should still be fired. Doesn’t mean we aren’t happy with the last two days. Long way to go.
Man Gip I had you and you still broke your silence.
Gipper, I know you are a true Met fan but can we please drop the fire Willie mantra for a little while?
DUDE, I HAD dropped it – if you actually read this thread, some fools intimated that all the “fire Willie” people had left.
And, just for good measure: fire Willie! ;-)
I know you had, read the post below. I was giving you credit for dropping it.
Gip….I turned the page. I am now rooting for Willie. Mainly b/c we all know it will take a big losing streak for him to go, and we don’t want that. But also b/c he is in survival mode and finally doing the things he should have been doing as far back as last summer. I love the benching Delgado move as well as playing the hungry subs.
LOL….Gip I was just prodding you dude. FIRE WILLIE!!!!! LOL
TRS86, was referring to metdamage, not you when i said “DUDE!”
Danny, I think we have all agreed that the best case scenario is to win with Willie.
After Willie, I chose TRS86. He’s had some pretty good ideas lately.
hold on….Willie should have hit and run to prevent that Castillo DP.
FIRE HIS ASS!!!!
I’m back on board, Gip.
Is it appropriate to use the LOL at this point?
depends what comment you are laughing at.
The one where you are supporting me of course.
fire away, chief.
Again they are still here but I give some of the credit. I ragged on Gipper over and over again for saying the same thing over and over again and for now he has moved on. I know there are others on here that are the same way. They want Willie gone but realize that it is not happening right now.
Carlos Delgado is Our version of Big Papi… He will come around and hit about 30 Bombs this year…>> Lets go Carlos…>>>>
lol more like 15 bombs.
To his credit he is already half way to your total.
22. I’m going with 22. If we stick with him all year.
That’s a big if but IF we stick with him I am going with 25 HR and 75 RBI.
Come on Man support Carlos Delagado… The guys has 439 Bombs for his career and will come around… LETS GO METS BABY>>>>
The best support for DelGodno is the bench. very supportive seat there for his over the hill derriere!
Please, Please don’t compare Delgado to Big Papi! Are you kidding me?!
Big Papi is probably one of the best if not the best clutch hitter in the game. The guy always comes up with a big hit when his team needs it most.
Come on Man go back and Look at Delgado’s Stats and See what he has done in his prime… Look at the Numbers… HOF numbers… Come on Guys show some respect to Delgado, he was a really dangerous power hitter in his prime… LETS GO METS>>>
Wow, a Feliciano sighting
I wish Willie had continue to forget about him. He has good numbers this year but they are really misleading.
And pitch who?
We can’t not use guys in the pen.
I know. He should have been used. I just don’t think he has been right for a while now.
It figures this would be the game the Dodgers broke out of their offensive slump.
I can see a tie game coming, WOW!!!!!!
Here we go, Pedro…
Uh-oh…
dang it… do we take out pedro?
Carlos Muniz??? really????
Big GAme Boys don’t need a let down after a Great Win last night… Keep the train rolling baby>>>>>>>>>
oh brother. feliciano has one job to do and he absolutely fails.
only bright note: this team doesn’t score runs, so don’t expect much from them tomorrow.
but we need to get out of this inning and tack on at least one more.
Willie made the right decision to bring in a lefty for a lefty. Pedro just didn’t make pitches.
Nice pitch. All right. Let’s get some insurance.
Great job in tight spot my Muniz.
Keep Vargas in rotation, send Pelf to AAA, keep Muniz in pen.
Agree 100%. Bringing back points guy +10000
*by
Good pitch, although i’m pretty sure i saw schneider call for a fastball away. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good. If he was gonna miss, that was a good spot to do so.
why can’t the Mets hit this guy?
sosa just signed with the astros, since he left the bullpen has been outstanding!!!…..
yea let him go there and throw his poor slider and get rocked.our bullpen is coming together,remember in ‘06. our bullpen was the best
I can’t wait till I go back to NY… I’m in LA southern california area and trust me People this Place Sucks…. LETS GO METS>>>
reyes magic?
Reyes, what the hell are you doing?
getting a single
nice gidp castillo
Can’t be too much on him after the past 2 games. I guess some hatred will never die.
what the kuo?
LMAO. The Mets must find a way to trade for Hung Chi Kuo.
The most honorable Hung Chi Kuo san.
seriously, this guy has given us trouble ever since 2006, it’s borderline ridiculous.
AND Blake DeWitt
SNY could run commercials of puppies being kicked and it would bother me less than these constant awful Jeter commercials
ha i agree,why would they do that to us.
Well, at least make it kittens.
Its Show time
To me that’s on Willie and Reyes. I know that Castillo sucks sometimes but why is Reyes not stealing or Willie not calling a hit an run. Castillo does not strike out. If Reyes is at 2nd then that ball moves the runner over just like it should have. Again, Castillo has to do more but where is the aggressiveness there?
totally agree, there should be a lot more movement with the bat in Castillo’s hands, especially with Reyes on base. Either let Reyes steal, or hit and run. I know Castillo doubled earlier, but the smart play is a hit and run there.
I have seen this over and over, if you are not going to use Castillo as a #2 hitter then there is no reason for him to be there. Castillo keeps taking pitches for Reyes to steal and he just keeps standing there. Why would you not at least hit and run with Castillo every time. It’s not like he is going to line out.
yeah, i mean, one out, castilo at the dish, reyes at 1st, David Wright on deck who is hitting great this game. At the least, you get Dwright up with a man on. Willie needs to realize that Castillo’s wheels ain’t what they used to be and he’s not going to be able to beat out all these DP’s. Hit and run with the man, he’s going to put the bat on the ball, we all know that much.
hold on. what about your lineup earlier today that had Castillo batting 8th against Righties, and 2nd against lefties?
you had me there, TR. Please don’t take it back. that would crush me.
Exactlly. Again, Castillo has to be able to do more and thats on him but you have to be more aggressive.
Danny I still agree that in a perfect world that Castillo would be a better 8 hitter against RHP. But that is assuming that Church is healthy AND Alou or we get Ibanez.
My point was that IF he is going to bat 2nd you have to use him as a #2 hitter and play aggressive infront of him.
100.1% agreement.
now don’t get all warm and fuzzy on me.
we get the point, mrs. castillo
Why is that anyone that supports another view point has to be insulted? Are you really Dykstra and Strawberry’s love child. Ha ha ha look at me, I am so funny.
who told you?
TRIVIA:
who did Lenny hit his first MLB HR against?
Against the Reds but I can’t remember the pitcher.
Soto…in his second AB of the game. MLB debute.
Good ole Mario Soto. Talk about a guy that would have benefited from pitching in today’s game. The Reds killed him with innings. I think he had something like 20 CG’s one year and near 300 innings. Could you imagine something like that today?
this is why the 100 pitch count is complete BS.
pitchers nowadays are coddled way too much. it’s maddening. doesn’t have to be how the Reds were with Mario, but it doesn’t need to be so automativ at 100 pitches either.
Castillo has been hitting lately. Maybe the hit and run is the play to call?
i agree
the hit and run is the play right there.
LEts go ShowStopper>>>
In an open message to Show…
I’m sorry…I was wrong. You must have had injury issues last year, and you are a great lefty arm out of the pen.
I’m very happy to have you on our team… and to Omar too… We idiots over here have no business questioning your signing him to a 2-yr deal.
Great effort tonight, and most of your apperarances this season. You are a Met…
the greatest SHO on earth!
good job, Show
Go Show !
It’s that bag of candy Kevin B. was talking about. Bullpen’s secret weapon…..
Has Scott Schoenweis become….dare I say…..RELIABLE?!?!??
Ok so next inning who pitches? I would assume sanchez isn’t available as i believe he pitched in two straight games and also threw two innings tonight. Heilman did as well. If we don’t have to pinch hit for him, i guess we leave scho in to face pierre and eithier, and then go to smith.
yeah, gotta keep in show for now to face the lefties and then have smith ready
Sorry i meant to say sanchez threw two innings last night.
Nice Schoe. Let him have the 8th too. The pen was worked hard last game.
Maybe they can blow it open and pile on a few more runs in the 7th to take the pressure off.
Beautiful AB Beltran.
Delgado’s about vs Beimel should result in either:
a) a weak pop-up on the first pitch
b) a strikeout on a low breakingball
c) a strikeout on a high fastball
d) a single to left
1-4 aint bad
Carlos selects d)
Hey are they playing the Curly Shuffle again at Shea? That’s the best news I’ve heard all day.
I think Bill R. is going to get us through this guys, just watch.
so do you buy or grow it yourself?
A more devilish hallucinogen is at work here.
Why are people cheering Joe Torre? Eff him.
I wouldn’t go that far, but I agree, I could care less about the guy
EW! Why in the name of God is Torre getting a “nice reception”? At Shea???!???
Ew. Horrible job by those fans.
they’re not all real Met fans, they’re fair weather fans
I was at the game where he became a “player/manager”. To me, he will always be a Met.
….so you’re the one.
e) a single to right!
my only other option was delgado hits a deep fly ball but it hits a pigeon like pedro cerrano in major league.
Way to go Delgado>>>>
Delgado with two nice defensive plays, 2-3 at the dish. He has a better energy tonight.
Where the hell was that a minute ago with Reyes on base? Good job by Beltran.
ENDY! ENDY! ENDY!
Whatever it takes. Go Endy !!
God i love the back-up lineup sh*t!!!
Willie….you’re doing good, my man.
Good ole Endy
2 out Rbi’s? Tack on runs. Great bullpen work. Delgado diving at first base and hitting lefties? Who are these guys?
hahaha – we’re in an alternate universe. And I like this one better…..
The Legend Of Endy Chavez LIVES On>>>>
I’d still bench Delgado against lefties
I’d still trade him to Toronto for Frank Thomas” leftover socks
Nice to tack on a run there.
Great hustle!!!!!
Whoo Hoo !!!!
2 things
1) it feels like this is schneiders first hit in forever
2) bimel is on the all-ugly team
3) scho deserve this at bat
thats 3 things oops
again…good job Willie letting Show bat here. keep the lefty in there against this lineup and a 4 run lead. plus you save the arm.
Plus we get to see the high comedy “WTF!!..I was just called back for a relief pitcher!!!” face from Evans in the dugout.
* plus you save the arms (as in bullpen)
Bill R. is a great manager, look at these moves – that old guy Willie Randolph would never have done this!
Insurance runs. Just like I asked for.
Even better is the shot of Torre in the dugout, looking like he has gas pains.
Joe always looks like that.
juan pierre is 9
Show dawg is somethin else these days
Bill “all smiles” R. with the timely pull – what a good manager!
Did they show the catchers interference again?
Not that I saw on SNY. Just mentioned it again about being a huge part of the that 4 run inning….
Quick question. Correct me if i’m wrong. I know scho throws that slider, but his fastball, when he’s going good isn’t he known to get alot of ground balls with it as it has some sink?
clapp,clap,clap
Nice standing O for the Show Man…..
Show Stopper is looking Nasty… Brian Knobbs Jerry Saags Nasty>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Watching this game as I watch the Dudley boys still try and wrestle on TNA. Those were some great tag teams huh, they really worked hard on their physique.
Dudleys and Nasty Boys definately didn’t miss the buffet line..>>>
Today’s Metsblog “Most obscure comment” award.
That is seriously the last thing I would ever expect you to say.
Hey man I am well rounded man. What do you want to talk about next? Politics? Global warming?
i think we kill eachother enough over the topic baseball.
Besides, politics is a crapshoot and Global warming is a myth contrived by pinko liberal nutcases.
but hey, that’s just one man’s opinion.
Wow, we have much more in common than I thought. Maybe we should have been discussing global warming.
yep. this is getting a bit scary.
no need to overmanage here, willie. have we forgiven schoenweis for the 2007 debacle?
I know matchups there but why take him out there?
i was thinking the same thing.
hahahha keith taking a shot at sovereign
Keith ‘Less Commercials’. He is priceless !!
As much as I agree, me thinks those ads help pay his salary…..
.500 baseball here we come
****guy knocking on wood
Baby Steps. . .
i hate to be that pessimistic bastard but…
i hate the fact this if we will we’ll only be at .500, when that was our “rock bottom” point last week
oh well, lets go mets!
yeah….but I was more excited about this game with them 1 game under .500, than I was a few weeks ago with them 5 games above .500.
odd.
Not odd at all, we have been playing good baseball. The Willie issue is put to bed for now. Delgado has been benched. Tatis and the bench has been playing great. Bullpen has been great. We have come from behind. Delgado is playing with fire and 1-4 are starting to hit, yes even Castillo is starting to hit.
There is a lot to HOPE for at this point, instead of waiting for the bottom to fall out.
and fun. they are having fun, it appears. that’s important.
Well truthfully being a coach myself there is absolutely no fun in losing. When you win you have fun.
THAT’S THREE BABY!!!!! A SLAP TRICK, DEDICATED TO BILL R. !!!!!
does joe torre enjoy managing? you wouldnt think so
man Slappy McSingle is slappin some mcsingles tonight.
Can’t wait till we get Ryan Synagogue back in there!
(props to Ryan Synagogue – love that!)
Not over yet in the 8th, but looking like another solid Mets win. Vargas has been everything you could ask for, and then some.
LETS GO METS!
these conversations between ron keith and gary get more and more random- “you take route 10″
Well, I-10 is the major Interstate to the Inland Empire. The fact they didn’t know what the Insland Empire is….was funny.
Vargas has been everything you could ask for, and then some????
Guy almost blew a 6 run lead, and probably would of if he had stayed in.
He’s a number 5 starter.
Remember Vargas is the 5th starter and he has out pitched most 5th starters. He’s out pitched the Mets 4th starter (Pelfry) so far too.
and arent they going 2 send down vargas since pedro is taking his spot next week. i dont see how you cannot send pelfrey to the bullpen or down to AAA.
santana
maine
perez
pedro
vargas
No decision has been made yet that I am aware of.
I agree.
Go with the guy that gives the Mets the best shot to win a game and Vargas is that guy right now.
I think Pelfry should go to AAA, not the pen, and get a few starts with no real pressure.
Vargas has no options, he’d be picked up by another team. They are talking keeping Pelf in the rotation, putting Vargas in pen and sending Muniaz down. Consensus on Metsblog is that would be stupid and instead they should send Pelf to AAA, keep Vargas in rotation and Muniz in pen.
totally agree
OK Smith, finish this baby out.
I think that Wade kid threw more breaking balls this inning than the entire Mets staff ahs all year. Looks like other teams still believe in the curve ball!
now that you say that, I think we dont have a pitcher that throws a 12-6 curve, do we?
We sort of did until Guru Jacket told Pelfry to stop throwing his curve. . .
best I can tell, Pedro and Duque (remember him?) are the only curves, at least from the starters, and I can’t think of any in the pen either.
Oh yeah, Smitty baby. Way to finish !!
eck, I haven’t seen the Chavez catch since it’s happened. It just makes me sick to relive that game
i second that. have yet to even see the replay.
that, and the GMEN’s botched FG attempt in the 2003 WC against SF. 2 plays I have only seen once, and as they happened.
Nice, bullpen is coming through
3 wins in a row!
bats heating up!
bullpen great!
only 4 out of first!
let’s get ‘em.
PS- there are 110 baseball games left! lets go 67-43 and win this division!
I hope now Maz explains that whole catcher’s interference play – since I missed it. That allowed those 4 runs to score and was a big play….
AND BILL R. LEADS US TO ANOTHER WIN!! THAT’S A STREAK BABY, BILL R. IS THE MAN!!
(Show Dawg and That Kid Smith are nasty as well)
I like the BILL R.
For now anyway
Vargas did a pretty good job too.
And don’t overlook Muniz comin’ in with a 4-pitch punchout with the game on the line…Nice!
Eggzackly
+ 2 hrs by DW
Thanks for wearing the orange jacket Jay! Keep it on.