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In a recent chat for Baseball America, the great Jim Callis believes that within the next few months the Mets Top 10 Prospects will shake out as follows:
1) OF Fernando Martinez, 2) 1B-OF Ike Davis, 3) SS Reese Havens, 4) LHP Jon Neise, 5) 1B Dan Murphy, 6) 1B Mike Carp, 7) RHP Eddie Kunz, 8 ) RHP Brad Holt, 9) OF Javier Rodriguez and 10) 1B Nick Evans.
According to ESPN.com, Davis got in to an on-field fight with a teammate prior to yesterday’s game between Fresno State and Arizona State in the College World Series.
However, according to the East Valley Tribune, the fight between Davis and Brett Wallace was a joke.
“We wanted to do it to loosen up the team a little bit and maybe get the other team to think about other things,” Davis said after the game. “It didn’t work, but it was fun.”
According to the report, Davis and Wallace are good friends, “who plan to go on vacation together some time after the season.”
If Ike Davis were a true Met that fake fight would have resulted in a career threatening injury.
if the Mets were to have a “fake fight” half the team would end up on the DL
If the team had a fake fight……………..nevermind, that would show emotion.
In the same chat.. Callis also said:
Mr. Must See TV from NYC asks:
Jim, great coverage yesterday. They should let you and Keith law do most of the talking next year, though. That said, I thought the Mets should have taken Friedrich and Gillespie at #22 and #33 instead of Havens and Holt because they were a better package. Thoughts? Also, what do you think Holt will project as? And what do you think of what the Mets are doing on Day 2 so far?
A: Jim Callis: I would have made the same choices you did. Holt sounds like more of a reliever to me in the long run. Mets are being conservative as usual, and I think that’s a mistake with the financial muscle they’re not using.
Don’t you love how Wilpon likes to confuse us? We can still call him Freddie Coupons for draft purposes.
In the previous section people were bashing Davis, citing the fight he got into last night with a teamate. Not like I care but it’s just an example of what I hate most….fans reading an ESPN article and then spitting it out as if it was nothing but true. Everyone on here goes on websites, reads this and that, but that’s when similarities stop. I will read stuff, think about it….and have the understanding that human being are writing these things and they are inherintly biased, or inaccurate, or whatever. I just can’t stand the ignorant “See! we drafted a bad apple! fighting with his own teamates!” turns out it was a joke. I’m talking larger scheme of things now – why fans hate Minaya, why they hate Randolph, hate Delgado. This team is capable of much more but the media and increased scrutiny of New York….plus the annoying people that reside in New York, I myself being one of them…..but the papers own this city and they own most sports fans too.
“I will read stuff, think about it….and have the understanding that human being are writing these things and they are inherintly biased, or inaccurate, or whatever.”
Thank God for you, then. Let me apologize for mankind for being so inferior to you, oh great one.
Too bad you can’t spell. Inherently, Mr. Perfect.
Can I just say that the reason why the fans hate delgado has nothing to do with his perceived image that is translated to us through SNY or the papers, but rather his ongoing barrage of pop outs and strike outs with runners on base.
Yes, but how do you know about them unless through the media? How do you know SNY isn’t using angles to make long drives look like pop ups and the guys in the booth have been told to say things like “popped it up” when it was really a screaming line drive that was caught by some acrobatic miracle in deep center field.
You trust the media, I can tell.
Well what did you expect two idiots who haven’t signed yet to say? What do you think your kids would say if they were caught fighting? “We were only playing. We weren’t really fighting.” Admitting to fighting with teammates would hurt them in their bonus checks. Besides, you didnt have to read about it in an ESPN article, you could watch it on their coverage of the game.
Really. To berate us for believing some writers or our own eyes, while you turn and believe, on just reading, two kids who are trying to cover their own butts. Thing is, if you cant stand whats being written here by posters, why bother coming in to the comments section to read? Why not just read the bloggers main opinion and not bother coming into the comments section?
Stupid joke.
who is Javier Rodriguez?
I watched a few of Davis’s AB’s over the last couple nights and he showed a fine approach. To small a sample really, but he is a hell of a lot quicker than Delgado at 1B.
How long does Mike Carp have to hit .350 before he gets promoted?
lefty starters Angel Calero and Mike Antonini were rewarded for their fine pitching in the SAL be being promoted to St. Lucie where they will lose 2-1 games for the rest of the year because the FSL Mets cant score. Toby Stoner was promoted to AA, with other retreads heading in the other direction.
Rodriguez is an 18 year old OF the Mets drafted the other day out of the Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, ranked by Baseball America to be PR’s #1 prospect and the overall #103 prospect in the draft.
I think the fact that 40% of the projected top 10 prospect list for the Mets aren’t actually in the Mets system speaks volumes for how depleted the farm system is right now.
Seriously. It’s kind of sad, and it makes me wonder what baseball prospectus expects out of guys like Neise, Carp, Evans and Murphy.
Here’s more on Rodriguez from the 6/5 NY Post:
Considered one of the better prospects in Puerto Rico heading into the Excellence Tournament that annually draws scouts to see the island’s best talent each May, Rodriguez elevated his status after his strong showing there. He is the best pure hitter from Puerto Rico and has good bat speed. With a lean, athletic body, Rodriguez should have the ability to add muscle to his long frame. He shows above-average raw power to the pull side, though there is some length to his swing. Rodriguez is an average to above-average runner, clocking in at 6.7 seconds in the 60-yard dash. Reviews of his fielding are mixed, though his arm is above-average for both the length and carry he gets on the ball and for its accuracy.
thanks, I recall seeing his name the other day now. Didnt think they would put all the new draft picks on the top prospects list.
Thats a real slap at the Mets system which was supposed to be mediocre at worst. I would hope a few of the internal lefty starters make the list.
I think they’re supposed to be mediocre at best, not at worst. I think mediocrity would be a one or two step improvement for the Mets farm system right now
metsjam, dont listen to the local ‘journalists’ listen to the minor league experts. Mets were middle of the pack this spring even after the Santana deal.
To-by Stoner….what a great name…
It was good to see Ike Davis last night starting to play like a Met, when down 5 in the 8 and needing base runners or a nice single with men on first on second be able to pop up to Short.
nice jobe Ike. I know you’ll be better but thanks for watching the mets and knowing how to respond in those situations
Wow, I know the kid has been a Mets for a few days now but can he graduate college and take BP with a wooden bat before you give him the NY treatment..lol
Good list, I think Javoer Rodroguez will jump up that lost real soon. He’s very Jose Tabata-like and should develop big power as he matures.
I like the high Davis ranking, I really like him to put up Adrian Gonzalez 2007 numbers for many years.
Hasn’t Tabata flamed out?
How is he anything like Adrian Gonzalez??
I said those type numbers, 290-30-100.
Tabata is a good raw prospect still, but Rodriguez should bulk up and get more power to go with a good arm, good speed, and above-average bat speed. He could be a steal.
How is he a steal if he was ranked in the 100s and we took him in the 60s??
Give me Tim Melivlle here any day of the week…
You can take Melville, just know that he is going to college and the only team that has any shot to sign him this year is the Royals because of the hometown discount.
do you guys really believe the fight was a joke? like who does that? before a championship game? can you imagine kobe and gasol throwing down before tip tonight to loosen things up? come on.
According to the report, Davis and Wallace are good friends, “who plan to go on vacation together some time after the season.”
Whoa. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
LOL!
I am perfectly content with Carp and others staying on the Farm for a while to develop. Everyone gets on Omar for bring up Pelfrey too quick but then in the same line will talk about bringing up these AA players. We have too much of the ‘win now’ mentality. I would rather see us lose now than lose 2 or 3 more prospects because they are not ready to go to the show.
I know I will get ripped for this but hey, life sucks.
I think some of the people (myself included) are simply rooting for players performing well (like Carp) to be promoted to AAA, not necessarily the majors yet. He seems to have shown he’s ready to take a stab at the next level. Now is about the time when the organization is expected to make a few of those promotions so I think we’ll get a chance to see Carp (and a few others) move up to the next level soon.
I think you get better competition at AA. AAA is more of a holding ground for veteran players or players who are likely to be moving up and down form the big league club frequently. Guys like Muniz. I think most clubs prefer to keep their top prospects in AA.
I think thats mostly true except that at AAA he’ll see pitchers who have been at the major league level already and probably pitch more live a big league pitcher than the prospects in AA do (meaning more breaking balls).
If we are hoping to give Carp a chance next year (which I think is totally reasonable) than a half year in AAA may help.
There’s a difference between letting Pelfrey coming up here and letting him going like 0-8 before sending him back down. That’s just killing his confidence. Just like if you let FM come up and bat .100 for a month! If he’s clearly overmatched, send him down.
You’ll never know if you’ll catch lightning in a bottle unless you try a guy out for a week or 2. Didn’t Pujols jump up here from AA? I don’t think you’ll hurt a guys development by bringing a guy from AA up here for a sip of coffee… As long as their not overmatched and you let them drink the whole cup!
If the guys the Mets just drafted are already the 2nd and 3rd best prospects in the organization, then Minaya did some job gutting the farm system with few results over the last couple of years.
Two words, Johan Santana. At least we have more people in the farm worth following. It kind off adds to the team a sense of excitement for the future. Besides Fmart, we had nothing else really to watch coming through the farm at the beginning of the year.
Minaya didn’t gut it, there really wasn’t much talent to begin with. He’s just done nothing to improve it, or keep it from getting worse.
If Jim Callis is to be believed, based on that updated top 10 Minaya did at least 4 things to improve the system last week.
At the very least it seems like the kid has a pulse which would make him very uncomfortable in the current Met clubhouse. It’s crazy that we’re already in looking forward mode, but there it is. Thanks NY Mets<that’s a sarcastic thank you, Delgado;)
at least the list is mostly guys into their 20s that have gotten some experience, or college hitters that could move quick.
Better than a bunch of 18 YOs that are in A ball , and need years just to figure out if they might amount to anything!
Carp, IMO, has put up enough sustained production that you can seriously consider him for promotion at some point. Unless they trade Delgado, he won’t be getting handed the job, but if CD goes on the DL at some piont, it would be real interesting to see him get some ML ABs.
They should promote one of the Bingo boys to AAA by now. Unless Minaya is getting them to pad their AA stats for a deadline trade.
I think it shows the sad state of our farm system that 4 of our top 10 prospects are from last week’s draft.