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	<title>Comments on: Quote: Minaya says, &#8220;It&#8217;s Unacceptable.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: UpperDeckDweller</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-209087</link>
		<dc:creator>UpperDeckDweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt you will go check this message board today but i think you are missing my point.  Im not mad at the people buying the season tickets, theres always going to be people willing to shell out the dough to &quot;hedge their bets&quot; and even some people for which 3K is nothing and will pay that much in a heartbeat for season tix.  Fine, have fun, buy your seats, sell your seats, watch your &#039;returns&#039;...i dont care

What im upset about is the size of the new stadium, the inevitable rise in ticket prices due to the size of the stadium (and obviously due to inflation, etc), AND the fact that they wont even be selling weekend packages or 5 game packs, or any of the other more affordable ticket packages....just full-season ticket sales and individual tickets.  I dont care what their marketing strategy is or their friggin business plan, I care that fans who want to bring their families to a game or two a year will have to forgo the opportunity because they are being priced out.  

This is baseball, there are 81 home games a year, more than enough to make money, the Wilpons own the team, the stadium, and the network, they are making money hand over fist (even with a BAD team).  Why wont they just give a little - be it small ticket packages, or 5-10 thousand extra seats in their fancy new &quot;stadium&quot;?  It&#039;s greedy, and its downright mean.  

Soon they WILL lose the support of the lower and middle class fan, because who wants to root for the home team if you have to take out a 2nd mortgage on your own just to see them play??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt you will go check this message board today but i think you are missing my point.  Im not mad at the people buying the season tickets, theres always going to be people willing to shell out the dough to &#8220;hedge their bets&#8221; and even some people for which 3K is nothing and will pay that much in a heartbeat for season tix.  Fine, have fun, buy your seats, sell your seats, watch your &#8216;returns&#8217;&#8230;i dont care</p>
<p>What im upset about is the size of the new stadium, the inevitable rise in ticket prices due to the size of the stadium (and obviously due to inflation, etc), AND the fact that they wont even be selling weekend packages or 5 game packs, or any of the other more affordable ticket packages&#8230;.just full-season ticket sales and individual tickets.  I dont care what their marketing strategy is or their friggin business plan, I care that fans who want to bring their families to a game or two a year will have to forgo the opportunity because they are being priced out.  </p>
<p>This is baseball, there are 81 home games a year, more than enough to make money, the Wilpons own the team, the stadium, and the network, they are making money hand over fist (even with a BAD team).  Why wont they just give a little &#8211; be it small ticket packages, or 5-10 thousand extra seats in their fancy new &#8220;stadium&#8221;?  It&#8217;s greedy, and its downright mean.  </p>
<p>Soon they WILL lose the support of the lower and middle class fan, because who wants to root for the home team if you have to take out a 2nd mortgage on your own just to see them play??</p>
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		<title>By: saltzy007</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207900</link>
		<dc:creator>saltzy007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gipper....my man...how ya been....

I&#039;m back to my usual &#039;ruffling feathers&#039; self after a 2 month hiatus...but I&#039;m back full force now...

UDdewller....Its not as though I dont see your point.  Hey man, I wish we were still in the days of 50 cent admissions and 5 cent hot dogs, but the facts are that we arent.  You seem to be a pretty smart guy, but(and you cant really argure here), you are an idealist.  You keep fighting the reality of the situation...  

Still....allow me to use your point.  I&#039;m not a millionare.  I make jusssst over 100K.  After taxes do you really think that the $3k I dropped  this year was nothing?  It hurt, but I was willing to give it over.  Are you really saying that I should have to eat tickets so, when you feel like it, you have a seat waiting for you?  is that fair?  Again, all they are doing is guaranteeing demand.  Not only is there noting wrong with that...its the American Way for christs sake....

I dont look at my tickets as an &#039;investment&#039; per se, but hell, if I can reduce my costs by selling some tickets whats wrong with that?  My reason for making sure I&#039;m in Citi Field is to guarantee I have a seat for playoff games.  Right now at Shea, thats a waste of money, cause even if they make the playoffs I can get in for 1.5 to 2X face, up to the WS where prices gert crazy....going forward my thinking is that if I just buy all the games, if/when they make the playoffs I&#039;m gonna wind up spending what I would have spent on my Season tickets anyway.  Especially if they make the WS.  Its called hedging my bets.  If I can go to the games I wanna, and sell the rest for market value, who am I hurting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gipper&#8230;.my man&#8230;how ya been&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m back to my usual &#8216;ruffling feathers&#8217; self after a 2 month hiatus&#8230;but I&#8217;m back full force now&#8230;</p>
<p>UDdewller&#8230;.Its not as though I dont see your point.  Hey man, I wish we were still in the days of 50 cent admissions and 5 cent hot dogs, but the facts are that we arent.  You seem to be a pretty smart guy, but(and you cant really argure here), you are an idealist.  You keep fighting the reality of the situation&#8230;  </p>
<p>Still&#8230;.allow me to use your point.  I&#8217;m not a millionare.  I make jusssst over 100K.  After taxes do you really think that the $3k I dropped  this year was nothing?  It hurt, but I was willing to give it over.  Are you really saying that I should have to eat tickets so, when you feel like it, you have a seat waiting for you?  is that fair?  Again, all they are doing is guaranteeing demand.  Not only is there noting wrong with that&#8230;its the American Way for christs sake&#8230;.</p>
<p>I dont look at my tickets as an &#8216;investment&#8217; per se, but hell, if I can reduce my costs by selling some tickets whats wrong with that?  My reason for making sure I&#8217;m in Citi Field is to guarantee I have a seat for playoff games.  Right now at Shea, thats a waste of money, cause even if they make the playoffs I can get in for 1.5 to 2X face, up to the WS where prices gert crazy&#8230;.going forward my thinking is that if I just buy all the games, if/when they make the playoffs I&#8217;m gonna wind up spending what I would have spent on my Season tickets anyway.  Especially if they make the WS.  Its called hedging my bets.  If I can go to the games I wanna, and sell the rest for market value, who am I hurting?</p>
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		<title>By: UpperDeckDweller</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207889</link>
		<dc:creator>UpperDeckDweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a d!ck gipper.

This debate was going just fine before you had to come with that garbage.  There are thousands of people in the city that flat out CANT get better jobs.  If you cant come up with anything better to say than &quot;get a better job&quot; just shut your mouth (or quit typing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a d!ck gipper.</p>
<p>This debate was going just fine before you had to come with that garbage.  There are thousands of people in the city that flat out CANT get better jobs.  If you cant come up with anything better to say than &#8220;get a better job&#8221; just shut your mouth (or quit typing).</p>
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		<title>By: gipper82475</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207858</link>
		<dc:creator>gipper82475</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a better job.</p>
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		<title>By: UpperDeckDweller</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207842</link>
		<dc:creator>UpperDeckDweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect you as a fan Saltzy, so dont take this the wrong way, but treating ticket sales from your season ticket package and stadium sizes, etc, as an investment strategy is what is wrong with &quot;baseball as a business&quot; in the first place!

Now i dont need to be told the average salary in nyc again, I&#039;ve heard it too many times already....the number that should be used here isnt the average, it&#039;s the mode.  There are far less millionaires than there are average middle class families in the metropolitan area.  And these middle to lower class people, the people that baseball as a sport was built upon, are the ones getting squeezed out by the &quot;intimate&quot; setting of these new quasi stadium/arena ballparks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect you as a fan Saltzy, so dont take this the wrong way, but treating ticket sales from your season ticket package and stadium sizes, etc, as an investment strategy is what is wrong with &#8220;baseball as a business&#8221; in the first place!</p>
<p>Now i dont need to be told the average salary in nyc again, I&#8217;ve heard it too many times already&#8230;.the number that should be used here isnt the average, it&#8217;s the mode.  There are far less millionaires than there are average middle class families in the metropolitan area.  And these middle to lower class people, the people that baseball as a sport was built upon, are the ones getting squeezed out by the &#8220;intimate&#8221; setting of these new quasi stadium/arena ballparks.</p>
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		<title>By: Horseman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207761</link>
		<dc:creator>Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Boscov. I am not a fortune teller. I am simply stating an opinion. Second, I am not a New Yorker. I live in Pa and have the sunday package, therefore, I go to a lot of games and consider myself very loyal to this team. I&#039;ve had the tickets for 6 seasons now. I am just stating my disappointment with the ballclub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Boscov. I am not a fortune teller. I am simply stating an opinion. Second, I am not a New Yorker. I live in Pa and have the sunday package, therefore, I go to a lot of games and consider myself very loyal to this team. I&#8217;ve had the tickets for 6 seasons now. I am just stating my disappointment with the ballclub.</p>
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		<title>By: Horseman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207754</link>
		<dc:creator>Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the real: 

I said AAA not AA. Meaning Aguila and Feliciano which both happen to be outfielders. And both are 28.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the real: </p>
<p>I said AAA not AA. Meaning Aguila and Feliciano which both happen to be outfielders. And both are 28.</p>
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		<title>By: saltzy007</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207715</link>
		<dc:creator>saltzy007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha...well my whole master plan was that I lay out $3k this year....the new stadium has only 45k seats....even if they dont win the WS this year tickets should be impossible.....

What I didnt count on was the team absolutley stinking it up, and turning many quasi-fans that would wanna go next year off....

I still think it was a decent investment, but the early returns.....not so good.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha&#8230;well my whole master plan was that I lay out $3k this year&#8230;.the new stadium has only 45k seats&#8230;.even if they dont win the WS this year tickets should be impossible&#8230;..</p>
<p>What I didnt count on was the team absolutley stinking it up, and turning many quasi-fans that would wanna go next year off&#8230;.</p>
<p>I still think it was a decent investment, but the early returns&#8230;..not so good&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207698</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%. I don&#039;t think Omar has made any particularly horrible moves, just that the overall direction we&#039;ve had since he came in has been flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%. I don&#8217;t think Omar has made any particularly horrible moves, just that the overall direction we&#8217;ve had since he came in has been flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: NegativeFan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/10/quote-minaya-says-its-unacceptable/#comment-207693</link>
		<dc:creator>NegativeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Omar.....your performance has been unacceptable.

Next time you even think you want to sign an old, injury prone Latino, you should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Omar&#8230;..your performance has been unacceptable.</p>
<p>Next time you even think you want to sign an old, injury prone Latino, you should be fired.</p>
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