Matthew Cerrone

Note: Ryan Church, Donations, and Shameful
By Matthew Cerrone - Jun 11, 2008 10:00 am

Last week, a crane feel from a roof top on the upper east side of Manhattan killing two construction workers.

According to the Daily News, the fiancee of one of the men rejected a financial donation from Ryan Church, “because her future hubby was a Yankee fan.”

“Don was a die-hard Yankee fan,” the woman said.  “It would not respect his memory if he accepted this.”

thanks to my cousin Chris for the link…i think

Speaking of Church, check out John Delcos’s latest post to his blog for the Journal News, where he a details a conversation before yesterday’s game, during which he confronted Omar Minaya about the ‘shameful’ way he handled Church, writing:

“I asked Omar Minaya, sarcastically, I admit, where Church got his medical degree so he could make such a decision.  The Mets weren’t happy with the question and told me so…I even got a nasty e-mail from someone, asking who I was to question Minaya.  Whoa.  I am supposed to question authority in my business and not drink the Kool-Aid.  Of course, I haven’t gotten an apology email from that gutless wonder…Just dumb and arrogant from top to bottom. They should be ashamed, but I doubt they have that capability.”

nice, john…power to the people, man

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Comment by SantanaCYYOung
2008-06-11 10:02:22

gutless wonder sums up this team pretty accurately

Comment by adropofvenom
2008-06-11 13:12:56

It also sums up hacks like John Delcos.

It’s pitiful that he’s trying to make himself a part of the story like this for publicity.

 
 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:03:38

Don’t look now.. but Milledge is starting to rake.. hit a GW homer last night….

Comment by Xavier22
2008-06-11 10:08:13

yeah, and Church and Schneider have been such disappointments.

C’mon.

Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:09:38

Yeah.. guided us all the way to 3 games under .500 now… versus a 23 year old Milledge starting to come into his own..

Moves like this are how we got here in the first place…

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Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-06-11 10:11:15

please tell me you are kidding……

 
Comment by Chan Ho Parking Lot
2008-06-11 10:13:55

Yeah, he’s really starting to come into his own because he hit 2 home runs in his last 3 games. He’s hitting .251 with 5 home runs on the year while still corkscrewing himself into the ground on outside sliders.

 
2008-06-11 10:14:05

hey dwright, way to be nonsensical and illogical. welcome to the party. One GW homer does not a season make

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:16:12

How am I kidding? What good is third in the NL east this year?

jesus flores - 23 year old catcher, given up by the mets in the Rule V draft for nothing, claimed by the Nats..318 3 18, OBP .390 Salary 400K

Brian Schneider .255 2 15 OBP .340 Age 31 Salary 5 Million

Before last year when Church played 144 games his previous high was 103… and now we’re all enjoying the Chavez/Tatis Poo Poo Playyer…..

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:21:19

Hey Mo.. all I sad was starting to come into his own.. He’s still only 23… and I’m pretty sure he’s got more game winning homers then 3/4 of our starting roster….

 
Comment by metties1
2008-06-11 10:26:48

Jesus Flores is a bad example. They didn’t want to give him up at all, but couldn’t protect him. I also think the comparison to Church is bad. He had a fluke injury (as opposed to being injury prone). I am sure while he hasn’t had many GW homers, he is responsible for more wins than Milledge is. Plus his defense is stellar. I still think we made out on the deal

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:33:04

Church has topped 300ABs in a season once.. at what point do you call someone injury prone? He’ll be 30 at season’s end…

I’m sure there was a way they could of protected Flores… they gambled that he was so young that no one would leave him on a roster all season long… and lost.. badly…

 
Comment by Danny
2008-06-11 10:35:06

We had Jason Standridge on the 40-man roster for the Rule V Draft where Flores was claimed.

He was released 2 weeks later.

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:38:41

There ya go.. thanksDanny…

All I’m saying is.. this is how we get older.. and the payroll gets higher..

If we win.. then all is well.. when we don’t.. like this season.. and everyone complains that the roster is old and the payroll is through the roof… then moves like these two are why…

That was my only point.

 
Comment by GravediggerHebner
2008-06-11 10:41:31

While it’s true that Church has only topped 300 ABs once, only in 2005 was that due to injury (he ran into the OF wall making a play), in ‘04 he was a rookie and in ‘06 he was in the minors after struggling early, not injury.

 
Comment by ravi3
2008-06-11 10:48:11

The Nat-spos never gave him a chance to play a full season.

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 10:50:45

Kinda like us with Milledge? :-)

 
Comment by Tidewater
2008-06-11 10:56:53

I’m wit Dwright here. I disliked this trade at the time, and I fully expected Church to be a good ballplayer. We had a young inexpensive outfielder in Milledge and a catcher in Estrada, and we traded that 23 year old for a 29 year old and a no hit catcher and dumped the one we already had.

I never understood why we traded for something we didn’t need and got older and more expensive along the way.

It’s the same thing when when we traded a young starter (Bannister) for a power bullpen arm (Bourgos) and then traded two young power bullpen arms (Lindstrom and Owens) for a young starter (Vargas). I complained about that then, I complained about Milledge at the time. It is weird, upside down (or is it just sideways?) trading.

 
Comment by giuseppe franco_procede
2008-06-11 11:08:27

I will still take Church and Schneider over Milledge any day! Get better Church!

 
Comment by getupkids026
2008-06-11 11:27:56

How is Bannister doing this year? Lindstrom? Owens? Do you think any of them would be difference makers for this team? Did you even check Flores numbers before he got called up? He was hitting a lofty .153 at AAA. He got off to hot start after his call up and now is cooling down. Quit complaining about the past and focus on the future.

 
Comment by Tidewater
2008-06-11 11:32:14

I never said any of those guys were doing well, my point was that Omar has shown a penchant for trading for pieces he already has. Would I take Bannister over Vargas? Yes. Would I take Lindstrom over Bourgos? Yes.

I’m happy to look to the future. Maybe Omar will trade Reyes for Julio Lugo.

 
Comment by dwright012
2008-06-11 11:58:33

He’s cooling down? Yeah that HR he hit yesterday was probably a lucky shot..

 
 
 
Comment by metfan435
2008-06-11 11:28:18

Milledge is joke, and they have managed to be 14 games under .500 with him. wow he is great!

Comment by Tidewater
2008-06-11 11:32:54

We’re three games under with Wright and Johann. I guess they suck too.

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Comment by metfan435
2008-06-11 12:06:38

Dwright was saying what a great addition milledge is to the team and how we are 3 games under with Church and Schneider. Milledge is terrible and and how do you come up with those two? Wright and Johann had nothing to do with the trade. I know it is difficult but let’s try to follow along.

 
Comment by metsjam
2008-06-11 12:39:01

Metfan435: I think the idea was that you cannot say a player stinks just because his team is doing bad. The Nationals have a lot of problems accounting for their being 14 games under .500 that have nothing to do with Milledge. If you have a problem with Milledge, fine, but don’t say he scks because his team scks. There are a lot of good players playing for bad teams (e.g. Wright and Johann)

 
Comment by metfan435
2008-06-11 12:45:33

I am not saying that he sucks because the nationals are bad. Obviously good players play for bad teams all the time. I am saying that Milledge sucks because he can’t hit a breaking pitch and his fielding is terrible and we won’t even start to go after that he is a head case. But dwright was implying we got the short end of the trade, I would take Church and Schneider any day over milledge.

 
 
 
 
Comment by mikey_FF
2008-06-11 10:04:57

Wow … is there no limit to the arrogance of those in charge of this team? Arrogance, denial, arrogance and more denial.

Omar traded for an ace to help change the vibe … but it didn’t work. There are deeper problems at work here … much deeper … it keeps getting ignored.

You can put an ace in a deck with no hearts but that still doesn’t make you play the game the right way.

Comment by EliPorter
2008-06-11 10:25:52

thats punny

 
 
Comment by RetireNumber17
2008-06-11 10:08:20

It’s time to bring out Michael Ray, y’all:

“The ship be sinkin’.”

Comment by Danny
2008-06-11 10:11:54

Garry Templeton?

Comment by metsjam
2008-06-11 10:13:51

No, I think it was Richardson

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Comment by GravediggerHebner
2008-06-11 10:15:01

Templeton’s rhyme was

“If I ain’t startin’, I ain’t departin’”

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Comment by Danny
2008-06-11 10:19:13

hahaha, ok.