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	<title>Comments on: postGame: Mets 5 D&#8217;Backs 3</title>
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		<title>By: Cactus</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/11/postgame-mets-5-dbacks-3-2/#comment-211928</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to try to say this as nice as possible, but Matt if you think that Pelfrey should have been given the chance to finish the game after allowing a baserunner in the 9th, you have no idea about how the game of baseball is played or managed.

Having already pushed Pelfrey by having him pitch the 8th, there&#039;s two options there - have Wagner start the 9th (with a 3-0 lead after a 5 game losing streak, the obvious decision - take the win and go home) or give Pelfrey the chance to finish the game and pull him once someone gets on base.  In that last scenario, if you leave him in and he gets knocked around, you undo all the positives from the last 8 innings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to try to say this as nice as possible, but Matt if you think that Pelfrey should have been given the chance to finish the game after allowing a baserunner in the 9th, you have no idea about how the game of baseball is played or managed.</p>
<p>Having already pushed Pelfrey by having him pitch the 8th, there&#8217;s two options there &#8211; have Wagner start the 9th (with a 3-0 lead after a 5 game losing streak, the obvious decision &#8211; take the win and go home) or give Pelfrey the chance to finish the game and pull him once someone gets on base.  In that last scenario, if you leave him in and he gets knocked around, you undo all the positives from the last 8 innings.</p>
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		<title>By: darkstar73</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/11/postgame-mets-5-dbacks-3-2/#comment-211844</link>
		<dc:creator>darkstar73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you actually watch any games?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you actually watch any games?</p>
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		<title>By: iluvbuckner</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/06/11/postgame-mets-5-dbacks-3-2/#comment-211721</link>
		<dc:creator>iluvbuckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m watching the highlights on mlb.com...I notice a few things.

Beltran&#039;s walk-off homer gave the crowd something to cheer about after the disappointment.  The feeling behind the cheer was &quot;oh thank god we at least won this game&quot; rather than &quot;yeah we won!  Ya gotta believe!&quot;  A collective satisfying cheer tho.

Reynolds homer...as it&#039;s in the air...a collective groan.  As it lands in the bleachers, some chatter and even a smattering of brief applause.  Cuz true Mets fans knew what was coming.

Most upsetting was Pelfrey&#039;s expression after  Reynolds&#039; homer.  So sad to let him down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m watching the highlights on mlb.com&#8230;I notice a few things.</p>
<p>Beltran&#8217;s walk-off homer gave the crowd something to cheer about after the disappointment.  The feeling behind the cheer was &#8220;oh thank god we at least won this game&#8221; rather than &#8220;yeah we won!  Ya gotta believe!&#8221;  A collective satisfying cheer tho.</p>
<p>Reynolds homer&#8230;as it&#8217;s in the air&#8230;a collective groan.  As it lands in the bleachers, some chatter and even a smattering of brief applause.  Cuz true Mets fans knew what was coming.</p>
<p>Most upsetting was Pelfrey&#8217;s expression after  Reynolds&#8217; homer.  So sad to let him down.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m talking about down the line not right now, but just from the games I&#039;ve seen he has no problem getting into pitchers counts against batters, he just can&#039;t put them away because his off-speed stuff is so inconsistent. He ends up either walking them or hanging his slider up in the strike zone. 

Obviously he&#039;s not going to go anyway with just two fastball pitches, no matter how good they are but if he can develop a consistent slider, let a lone a consistent change-up then it&#039;s makes him a completely different pitcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m talking about down the line not right now, but just from the games I&#8217;ve seen he has no problem getting into pitchers counts against batters, he just can&#8217;t put them away because his off-speed stuff is so inconsistent. He ends up either walking them or hanging his slider up in the strike zone. </p>
<p>Obviously he&#8217;s not going to go anyway with just two fastball pitches, no matter how good they are but if he can develop a consistent slider, let a lone a consistent change-up then it&#8217;s makes him a completely different pitcher.</p>
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		<title>By: stickguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stickguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he has a servicable slider, at least on the days he can control it!

A good change up would really help 2.  Something with a different look or action.

He should be required to spend at least 2 days a week with Pedro.  Must be something the master can teach him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he has a servicable slider, at least on the days he can control it!</p>
<p>A good change up would really help 2.  Something with a different look or action.</p>
<p>He should be required to spend at least 2 days a week with Pedro.  Must be something the master can teach him.</p>
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		<title>By: andyncmetfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyncmetfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominant #2 Gina?  Wow, you are a glass half full person, we can use that on this site.  I&#039;ll take a consistent/decent #5 for now before I can even believe he is ready to be a dominant #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominant #2 Gina?  Wow, you are a glass half full person, we can use that on this site.  I&#8217;ll take a consistent/decent #5 for now before I can even believe he is ready to be a dominant #2.</p>
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		<title>By: stickguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stickguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right now, any win in a storm!

Players will still come 2 the mets.  Remember, the money (#1 in everyones book!) will still be there.  Factor in a nicer place to play (Citi instead of a dump locker room), which will also have less booing.

Yes, less booing next year, a byproduct of fewer seats + plus more corporate &quot;suit&quot; types that don&#039;t know or care enough to boo!

Or they could just play better and win more, which tends to minimize the booing (although I am sure some &quot;fans&quot; would still boo someone if the Mets were up 10-0 in game 7 of the WS!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right now, any win in a storm!</p>
<p>Players will still come 2 the mets.  Remember, the money (#1 in everyones book!) will still be there.  Factor in a nicer place to play (Citi instead of a dump locker room), which will also have less booing.</p>
<p>Yes, less booing next year, a byproduct of fewer seats + plus more corporate &#8220;suit&#8221; types that don&#8217;t know or care enough to boo!</p>
<p>Or they could just play better and win more, which tends to minimize the booing (although I am sure some &#8220;fans&#8221; would still boo someone if the Mets were up 10-0 in game 7 of the WS!)</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand people not getting very excited about this win, I know I&#039;m not. But demoralizing? If you can&#039;t take anything else from this game at least our 9th overall pick is finally pitching like a 9th overall pick. I still think he&#039;d be better off still in the AA or AAA working on his off-speed stuff but if he can develop even a serviceable slider to go with his two fastballs he could be at least a dominant #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand people not getting very excited about this win, I know I&#8217;m not. But demoralizing? If you can&#8217;t take anything else from this game at least our 9th overall pick is finally pitching like a 9th overall pick. I still think he&#8217;d be better off still in the AA or AAA working on his off-speed stuff but if he can develop even a serviceable slider to go with his two fastballs he could be at least a dominant #2.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is, now that&#039;s he&#039;s not on ESPN baseball tonight is as unwatchable as their NBA and NFL shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is, now that&#8217;s he&#8217;s not on ESPN baseball tonight is as unwatchable as their NBA and NFL shows.</p>
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		<title>By: andyncmetfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyncmetfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching with my wife, and I told her before Wags blew it, &quot;this is why you can never win as a manager.&quot;  If Willie leaves Pelph in there after he gives up the first hit of the ninth and he gets bombed, he gets criticized for leaving the kid in there and not going to his closer.  So he brings in his closer who decides he likes giving up 3-run homers, and now he gets criticized for not leaving Pelph in there to try and complete the game.  The old addage reigns true don&#039;t you think?  Damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t.  Guess it has just been that kind of year for Willie and the Mets in general.  What a demoralizing win . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching with my wife, and I told her before Wags blew it, &#8220;this is why you can never win as a manager.&#8221;  If Willie leaves Pelph in there after he gives up the first hit of the ninth and he gets bombed, he gets criticized for leaving the kid in there and not going to his closer.  So he brings in his closer who decides he likes giving up 3-run homers, and now he gets criticized for not leaving Pelph in there to try and complete the game.  The old addage reigns true don&#8217;t you think?  Damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t.  Guess it has just been that kind of year for Willie and the Mets in general.  What a demoralizing win . . .</p>
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