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According to Roger Rubin in the Daily News, “Before facing the Diamondbacks, the Mets players emerged from a brief players-
only, closed-door meeting, each carrying a piece of paper…The sheet also had several phrases and motivational messages. One said ‘We B4 I.’ Another read “team above self.” A third message was ‘we have time.’”
…nice work by rubin…by the way, for more details from the ‘paper,’ as well as player reaction to the meeting, check out his report…good stuff…
Of course, the Mets then lost 9 to 5 to the D’Backs, making it five straight losses on their way to being three games below .500.
…which just goes to show how meaningless team meetings, and rah-rah pre-game antics can be…
Nevertheless, following the game, Omar Minaya, Willie Randolph, Rick Peterson, Guy Conti and Tony Bernazard met in Randolph’s office for roughly five to 10 minutes.
Minaya told reporters after the meeting that nothing has changed since the team’s press conference on May 26, i.e., Randolph and his coaches are safe.
…from what i understand, the locker room was like a morgue after the game…so, sure, while nothing has changed physically, i bet a lot has changed mentally…
I can understand where Willie was coming from Sunday when he said he was speechless.
Guess that’s better than, “champagne will taste that much sweeter…”
“Bring out the pooper scoopers!” When will the insanity end?
I thought the Mets looked great tonight
Tick, Tick, Tick, the bomb is armed. How long before it goes off???:
The team needs a change, it’s not ALL willie’s fault but he’s at the wheel and a change is needed.
Let’s Go Mets!
It’s not ALL anyone’s fault, but if change is really needed no better place to make a change than with the manager
True, but there’s no better time to make a managerial change than in the off season, so that the new guy gets the team from day 1 in spring training. Unless you bring in an interim guy now, but at this point, might as well ride Willie out until the end of the year as a lame duck.
I agree, but it would make me feel better if they fired willie now.
Yeah I can understand that. It would make me feel better too.
Willie has a big hand in this though. The baseball moves
are grossly overrated, It’s that attitude over the last couple of years of “i know my guys” and that everything is going to be ok that has become the norm. Never any urgency.
He gave this team way too much credit for winning a division title(that they didn’t have to fight for). He also never saw it as a problem last year in june, july & august
when the team was playing .500 ball, it was just phrases like “blip on the screen” then the screen blew-up in september.
That comes back to the Yankee attitude and sense of entitlement. Over there in the Bronx, the Yanks always made the playoffs, year after year. Being a coach there for all those years, Willie has that same sense of entitlement. That’s the attitude he instilled into this team. They think they are the best, and expect to be there come October. When they win, they never get too excited, and when they lose, they don’t care as much as they should. I can understand being even keeled and all, but I don’t think it works for this particular group of players.
Blow it up, the core is young.
I’ll be the first one to cheer them on if they turn it around, and while I still hold out some hope, I think I……we…..need to start preparing for meaningless September ball games.
Obviously I am not with the team (duh, right?), but from the comments of people who are, the post game interviews, shots of the dugout on TV, etc., it does seem that this team is very deflated. Almost mopey (feeling sorry for themselves).
Teams in that sad frame of mind expect to lose. And it might be chicken or egg, but they usually do!
Oh yeah, and the manager does have to take responsibility for the attitude of the team, even if there are guys that he cant really control.
willie actually got in front of the microphone after the game last night and talked about “a lot of positives” & “good at-bats”
that is sad.
How long before Willie starts saying “we battled”?
This team is driving me insane. I have become InsaneMetsFans. Therefore:
FIRE EVERYBODY!
Is Randolph delusional? After hitting the five spot, the game went down hill. I did not see a positive sign or a pulse from this team. What else can I say?
Maybe he should flip out like Ozzie. They went on a winning streak.
Yeah, sure. Willie will do that. That’s just his style.
Hey it isn’t Delgado’s style to get an RBI but he did that last night……
hahah I actually had a dream that Ozzie was hired as the Mets manager, and Wilpon was clearly regretting it as Ozzie went on a typical rant during is introductory press conference.
Do you really think that’s gonna make a difference at this point? I think the players are already used to Willie being a certain character. If he flips out and screams and curses they’re gonna look at him like he’s crazy and deranged. They’re too used to him being laid back. Flipping out will raise eyebrows in the media but will probably go unnoticed in the clubhouse. It’s all perception out here. He’s clearly not getting the job done, his fault or not. Might as well make the change, it can’t get any worse…
(repost from old thread)
Enough is enough!
Blow this team up and take us out of our misery. Just field minor leaguers. Let the others be sent down or traded, The rest can sit on the bench for the rest of the year. Embarrass them the way they are embarrassing us.
Burn them all. And by the way, if you are a pitcher, helping with the tarp doesn’t show hustle or team spirit. It shows utter stupidity. Blow your shoulder on a tarp incident. We got people for the tarp jack**s, go work on your slider!
On a final note, my fellow Mets fans, meet your new manager: Groundskeeper Willie.
“Embarrass them the way they are embarrassing us.”
Who is this “us” you speak of? Are you a part of this team? Look, I know you feel a sense of entitlement as a fan, but get real, no one owes you anything, and the only ones they’re embarrassing is themselves.
I think technically, if you buy a ticket, the Mets owe you a baseball game.
And you get to see one. No one owes you victories.
The meetings aren’t meaningless, the magic just only lasts for 3 innings. All they need to do is have pep talk breaks pre-game, and after the third and sixth (and in the event of extra innings ninth) innings. Obviously, that would fix everything. Maybe a group hug at the midway point, just for good measure. Or they could try not sucking. Either way.
Group hug. Priceless. Send it to Willie - this might just take off with that soft fool…
How about this:
Fire Willie
Fire Rick
Drop Delgado
Trade Castillo for anything and pay half of his contract
Trade Reyes for some decent prospects
Drop Heilman to AAA
Trade Perez for anything
Trade Wagner to a contender for some decent prospects
Bring in a manager with some fire and a pitching coach that has pitched before.
Appoint Wright captain and tell him this means he has to stop talking like a lost little girl after every game.
Agree with everything except for trading Reyes.
…and if we trade reyes, hopefully we would get back more than decent prospects. I would think that Reyes and Pelfrey could at least net us Lincecum.
You wanna take your fire-starter leadoff hitter who no one wanted to trade for Santana and pack him off along with our best young pitcher for Lincecum? You’re deranged. Reyes doesn’t need to be traded, he needs a role model.
Whoa whoa whoa, trade Reyes? I’m not sure he could be so easily replaced, especially with the contract he has, which ain’t bad. Wright and Reyes need to stay. Rebuilding the team around them and Santana makes perfect sense. I’m also not down with ditching Beltran as having him in center field (regardless of how he’s hitting) saves us runs and gets us outs that other center fielders wouldn’t get. His defense would be extremely tough to replace. The other regular guys? Not so much. On a more positive note, Florida looks like they’re gearing up for a fire sale after this season. See anything you like?
The guy is never gonna be the superstar he could’ve been.
His OBP sucks for a leadoff hitter, he pops the ball up too much for a speed guy, and he seems to have forgotten how to steal bases.
His value is higher now than it will ever be in the future.
…maybe it’s the hitting coach…
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