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Following last night’s game, Omar Minaya was peppered with questions from reporters on the current job status of Willie Randolph.
Minaya, on whether Randolph will be the team’s manager through the rest of the season, said:
“I can’t answer that. He is my manager today, and I have the right to evaluate him as we go along. Let me put it this way, he is always being evaluated…It’s a situation that I am constantly evaluating.”
In the Daily News, Adam Rubin writes that Randolph could survive the first round of firings, while citing a team insider as saying, “I think the coaches are in trouble. That may be the compromise for now.”
…the thing is, i’m not sure this is a compromise, but instead the best course of action…period…
According to Rubin, Minaya met with Randolph at length after Sunday’s doubleheader - after which the manager boarded the team bus on route to the airport.
To check out what the guys from ESPN’s Baseball Tonight had to say on the subject yesterday, click play below:
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Holy mother of pearl….make a decision, Omar. Just…make….a….decision.
Willie deserves at least 2-3 weeks with his regulars if/when they return from injury. If his team never gets healthy, I think he should get until the end of the season to see how they do.
I think that is the hold up. I believe that Omar is (by all accounts anyway) very fair. He realizes that with the two starting corner outfielders out of the lineup for extended periods of time, it hasn’t made it easy to right the ship. Let’s see if these guys can stay on the field and start a winning streak.
This is absolutely awful. Any chance of this team playing better is being undermined by the drama created by Omar and the front office. They have found the absolute worst way to handle this; amazing. I’ve been in situations where threats of firing or “rounds” of firing have been used to try and jolt “employees” into performing better. It doesn’t work. This may not just effect this season but the players that remain for the next few seasons. Absolutely botched. What a joke.
……in related news the Mets today announced the re-hiring of the late Vern Hoscheit as bullpen coach. Hoscheit, who passed away in 2007 is best known for his role as bullpen coach of the ‘86 World Champion Mets.
Omar Minaya commenting on the re-hiring said “although Vern has slowed down a bit in the last few years, he will certainly help bring back the championship aura that has been lacking in our bullpen so far this year.”
“I think we should bring back the original Radioactive Man!”
“I keep telling you, he’s 86 years old and he’s dead.”
“Granted, but…”
“up and atom!”
“up and at them!”
“better.”
Amazing - Omar could talk for hours and say absolutely nothing.
Firing coaches accomplishes nothing.
Do you not recall in 1999 when the Mets purged Bobby V’s coaches, and subsequently went on a tear into the playoffs?
Coincidence.
Record before 1999 coaching purge: 27-30.
Record after 1999 coaching purge: 70-36.
Record before purge: small sample size in which a team was playing well below its abilities.
Record after purge: catching up to norms.
Honestly, if you don’t see a cause-and-effect from the coaching purge in 1999, I don’t know what to tell you. Anyone who watched them that year saw how they banded together and played more inspired ball from that point on. In fact, they won 6 out of 7 the DAY after the purge happened!
I’m not saying Tom Nieto is the reason the Mets are stinking it up. That’s silly. But I am saying that there is precedent for the argument that a coaching purge can wake up a team. For you to deny it based on the numbers I cited makes you look kind of silly. Sorry.
Let me amend this after investigating further - they went on a 15-3 run the day after the purge. 15-3!
That doesn’t prove causality. There was a total eclipse the same day as an earthquake. Therefore eclipses must portend earthquakes.
The purge sure seems like a cause and effect, but it doesn’t prove a thing.
I like to think that before you put a whole bunch of people out of work you ought to determine that they’ve done something wrong.
Firing Rick Down last year did propel them to the postseason. Why would getting rid of the Jacket and Hojo et al do it this year?
They are inconsistent. I don’t know why, but I’ll bet it has a lot more to do with pressing because of all of the scrutiny following last year than anything else.
Plus, let’s face it, the roster is not deep, and not that potent.
Firing Rick Down did NOT propel them… is what I meant to write.
Meanwhile Tidewater you talk about the team just returning to their norms…
If you are going drop drivel like that, at least be aware enough of a little thing called google, baseball reference and splits…
through the End of May Mike Piazza was hitting .310 with 11 HR and 31 RBI with a .900 OPS
Olerud, 9 HR 37 RBI and a 1.100 OPS
Alfonzo, .290 .850 OPS
Ventura, 9 HR 41 RBI
Rickey Henderson was hurt most of May the only abnormal event.
That team could not string together a strung string let alone runs wtih pitching or pitching with runs.
Time and distance have a pleasant way of fading memory but Bobby Valentines head was bigtime on the block, Phillips wanted to can him but Phillips was not a Wilpon guy and Valentine was, Phillips got to knife Valentine’s staff almost entirely as a precursor to win or else.
One thing I grant in this discussion if the Mets would plan to put Willie and the players on ultimate notice is that not removing DoDo, Manuel and Alomar along with Peterson and Nieto (why) serves a lame purpose.
Either remove the entire coaching staff, or fire Randolph, one or the other. While I would welcome the dismissal of Peterson and his one size fits all approach it is a lame duck move on its own.
You guys also forget that it was Bobby V himself that held a press conference saying that if the team didn’t play better over the next 50 or so games, then he would resign….Clearly that team played FOR him and wanted him to stay…is that the case with the current team?
“That doesn’t prove causality. There was a total eclipse the same day as an earthquake. Therefore eclipses must portend earthquakes.”
This is a terrible strawman argument. I could do you one better on your argument:
Person is sick. Takes medicine. Gets better. However, taking medicine and getting better was just “coincidence.”
No one thing makes a team go from playing poorly to playing great, as the Mets did in 1999. My only point was for you to completely dismiss the coaching purge as a total “coincidence”, given how they played before and after that purge, is a little outrageous. And no, firing Rick Down did nothing last year, but no one is saying that firing Nieto and Peterson would be a guarantee of anything. I’m just saying there’s a precedent that it could maybe provide a spark.
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Medicine is developed to attack disease. Medicine is based in science, not hocus pocus. I’m just saying putting a bunch of people out of work because “maybe” it will provide a spark is drastic.
And Patrick, why don’t you check their pythagorean output before and after the purge and compare them with the expected results rather than tell me how individuals are doing. If you want to put up Olerud’s and Piazza’s numbers, tell me how many more or fewer DPs people hit into before and after the purge, tell me what happened to BAPIP. You want to use google for that, go ahead.
I have to say, whether you like Willie or not, Omar is losing a lot of respect from me. An employer is not going to tell the whole staff that somebody’s job is being evaluated constantly. Omar, you look like j@ck@ss. Cut the BS and tell everyone that Willie is staying or going. You are losing the players and the fans. I am not a fan of Willie, but, I don’t believe this season is his fault. I blame Omar.
After the Game 2 win, im starting to think that maybe that Willie Randolph is not the problem. I think it might be the Pitching Coaches or even the Hitting Coachs fault . I think one of them will get fired before Willie because if we keep winning, the Mets will suspect that Willie is not the problem.
So why is the first base coach one of the guys who is reported to be in danger of losing his job.
So we can bring Rickey Henderson back. There hasn’t been a good poker game in the clubhouse in a while and DWright wants a chance to win his money back!
Because they will give HoJo his 1st base job back when they fire him as the hitting coach; which is comming soon when the “purge” takes place. Sure to go also are “The Jacket” and 3rd base coach Sandy Alomar jr.
Who evaluates you, Omar?
Omar evaluates Omar. He takes a look at what he has seen from himself, and he takes a look at the team he has constructed, and he will continue to do these evaluations of himself, especially when the team is not producing. And when he does these evaluations he determines whether or not there is anything that he needs, and then he stays in regular communication with himself to see if the evaluations need to be addressed any further. And once he is confident that he has properly evaluated these evaluations, he looks in the mirror and says, “Look, you are the general manager. I have evaluated your performance, and you have my full support.”
omar says that he has the right to evaluate his own performance on a daily basis…..thus his job is constantly hanging by his own thread
I think the Mets are in a horrible spot here. How can you evaluate a manager who hasn’t had his full lineup in there all year. When he did have them, he won 2 games from the Yankees.
Let’s see what happens when Alou and Church get back in there. I have a feeling we will score more runs. The starting pitching has been there for the most part.
Depends what you consider your full lineup. At this point, I’m beyond considering Alou a “regular”. He’s more regular on the DL. If thats the case, then the only guy missing is Church.
I think anything short of a legitimate starter in both corner outfield spots is not our regular lineup. I just think Omar is reluctant to give Willie less than half of the season to right the ship, when he has been without: arguably the team’s MVP for the first month and a half of the season, and a guy that batted .340 last season.
Those are very big blows to the team. Granted, they have left a lot of wins on the field. A lot of wins.
The fact that the team relies heavily on a guy like Alou who has a vacation home on the DL is a problem, attributed to Omar. In all fairness, Alou was really the best option available when they were looking to fill the void from Floyd, another injury prone OF’er
This is like slow blood-letting. This is horrible. As much as I hate Willie, no one deserves this. This is complete incompetance. After the Memorial Day Meetings, why not go one way or the other? Think about it, this team has been in limbo with a lame duck coaching staff for almost a month now…and then we wonder why they look like they have multiple personalities and are underperforming…WAKE UP OMAR!!!
Omar looked totally classless talking to the press yesterday. I can’t fathom Willie as a manager sometimes, but he is a decent man who deserved to be treated with more respect than this by his employers.
classless i can agree on. omar is nothing more than a good scout. doesn’t mean he has class. you can put a monkey in a suit, still a monkey. i’m sick of hearing omar say the word “support”
HIRE RICK DOWN!
Guys take it easy on the wilpons…they haven’t been involved in this mess b/c they are busy trying to coax Tommy Lasorda out of retirement to be the Mets manager.
Omar, Fred and Jeff…disgrace
omar’s a politician for sure.
“That doesn’t prove causality. There was a total eclipse the same day as an earthquake. Therefore eclipses must portend earthquakes.”
This is a terrible strawman argument. I could do you one better on your argument:
Person is sick. Takes medicine. Gets better. However, taking medicine and getting better was just “coincidence.”
No one thing makes a team go from playing poorly to playing great, as the Mets did in 1999. My only point was for you to completely dismiss the coaching purge as a total “coincidence&