Comments on: Buzz: Coaches in more Trouble than Willie

By: dykstraw II

dykstraw II — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:27:26 +0000

why isn’t anyone seriously calling for omar to be fired? how can anyone give willie a pass because of injuries and not immediately place those injuries under the blame column of omar’s ledger sheet?

By: Tidewater

Tidewater — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:38 +0000

Why did you post this twice?

By: Tidewater

Tidewater — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:53:38 +0000

And Patrick, why don’t you check their pythagorean output before and after the purge and compare them with the expected results rather than tell me how individuals are doing. If you want to put up Olerud’s and Piazza’s numbers, tell me how many more or fewer DPs people hit into before and after the purge, tell me what happened to BAPIP. You want to use google for that, go ahead.

By: Tidewater

Tidewater — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:48:09 +0000

Medicine is developed to attack disease. Medicine is based in science, not hocus pocus. I’m just saying putting a bunch of people out of work because “maybe” it will provide a spark is drastic.

By: iluvbuckner

iluvbuckner — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:35:36 +0000

I’ve been saying this all along. Coaches have more of a chance of getting canned than Willie.

Would YOU play well if you were under this pressure and distracted by “Will Willie go?” every day in the papers. What BS.

By: ToastyJoe

ToastyJoe — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:53:23 +0000

“That doesn’t prove causality. There was a total eclipse the same day as an earthquake. Therefore eclipses must portend earthquakes.”

This is a terrible strawman argument. I could do you one better on your argument:

Person is sick. Takes medicine. Gets better. However, taking medicine and getting better was just “coincidence.”

No one thing makes a team go from playing poorly to playing great, as the Mets did in 1999. My only point was for you to completely dismiss the coaching purge as a total “coincidence”, given how they played before and after that purge, is a little outrageous. And no, firing Rick Down did nothing last year, but no one is saying that firing Nieto and Peterson would be a guarantee of anything. I’m just saying there’s a precedent that it could maybe provide a spark.

(ignore duplicate repost below)

By: ToastyJoe

ToastyJoe — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:52:02 +0000

“That doesn’t prove causality. There was a total eclipse the same day as an earthquake. Therefore eclipses must portend earthquakes.”

This is a terrible strawman argument. I could do you one better on your argument:

Person is sick. Takes medicine. Gets better. However, taking medicine and getting better was just “coincidence.”

By: ravi3

ravi3 — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:43:52 +0000

The fact that the team relies heavily on a guy like Alou who has a vacation home on the DL is a problem, attributed to Omar. In all fairness, Alou was really the best option available when they were looking to fill the void from Floyd, another injury prone OF’er

By: ravi3

ravi3 — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:41:46 +0000

You guys also forget that it was Bobby V himself that held a press conference saying that if the team didn’t play better over the next 50 or so games, then he would resign….Clearly that team played FOR him and wanted him to stay…is that the case with the current team?

By: There's Always '09

There's Always '09 — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:38:13 +0000

I think anything short of a legitimate starter in both corner outfield spots is not our regular lineup. I just think Omar is reluctant to give Willie less than half of the season to right the ship, when he has been without: arguably the team’s MVP for the first month and a half of the season, and a guy that batted .340 last season.

Those are very big blows to the team. Granted, they have left a lot of wins on the field. A lot of wins.