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will air today’s press conference at 5 pm EDT, during which the team will officially introduce Jerry Manuel as the team’s new manager.
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unreal. truly unreal. 3:16 a.m.
WOW. This was not good timing at all. Willie said the players would start to turn around and I agree. Beltran has found his bat, Delgado is improving, Reyes and Castillo are finding ways to get on base. Even Big Pelf is finding himself.
All I can say is “Bad Timing”.
Right. Bad timing. They won 3 of 4 and are looking good, but this was the right move. They could win 9 of 10 and look great, but if they then lost 5 in a row to a couple of bad teams at home the rumors would swirl again about how they can’t maintain it. And there is some truth to that — Randolph lost the clubhouse and had no pulse of the team anymore.
For Willie this is bad timing, but for the team it is not. Playing well is a good thing to carry over to a new regime. Better than playing poorly. This team was not playing for Randolph anymore, they just won a few games on talent.
I kinda agree with you: firing or not firing Willie should not be based on 1, 2, 3, or even 10 games, it should be based on his whole body of work, which is what I believe happened. He started off great (he STILL has the 2nd highest winning % in team history), but has been absolutely lousy lately. The fact that the team has won 3 of 4 shouldn’t have saved Willie any more than them losing 3 of 4 should have gotten him fired. Losing 35 of 69 so far this season, coupled with losing 6 of the last 7 last season is what got him fired.
That said, I think it was awful timing to wait until the team had flown out to California and played a game to fire him. They should have dumped him after Sunday’s game instead of making him fly cross-country. Just because he’s a millionaire doesn’t make that any less of a dick move.
I can see it already. Tonight on MSNBC arond 8:45 pm:
“The New York Mets organization… today’s worst persons in the worldddddd….”
oh who cares, after that phoney crybaby got all musty as if he was a life long friend of Tim Russert he should have put himself on the list.
Jeff Wilpon better have his arse on a plane landing at LAX or Orange County airport, if he wants to be the COO he better start answering questions as opposed to sitting in on Minaya’s free agent calls.
Finally. Lets hope this jump starts the Mets.
lulz
i find it quite telling that the most people upset with the firing can find to say on willie’s behalf is that “it wasn’t his fault”
well that’s quite the accolade. “willie randolph, it’s not his fault!”
what a joke. the guy added NOTHING to this team, and this is even implicitly acknowledged by his supposed supporters…
and his firing was “classless”
ROFLCOPTER
FREE WALLY BACKMAN!
FIRE WILLIE!!!!!
This makes no sense. The Mets have actually been playing good baseball lately. If you take away the Wagner blown saves, which even the biggest Willie hater must admit were not Willie’s fault, then the Mets have played 6-2 ball before the firing. And before the San Diego series they played 7-2 ball. So he’s being fired for the three 2-1 losses in San Diego then? No, this makes no sense.
Willie Randolph will manage again. He’ll take over some team of young, scrappy, hungry kids – not overpaid, over-the-hill veterans. And he’ll bring them to Shea Stadium and, I hate to say it, make the Mets regret this. And what will be pathetic is that all the fools on this blog’s comments sections that have been wanting him fired recently will probably be leaving comments saying how much of a mistake it was to let Willie go and how whoever is managing the team that year should be fired.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, folks. If the Mets play better (or worse) under Manuel, it’s because of the player’s performance and the player’s abilities only. That’s the only reason.
We just let a great baseball mind and a great baseball man get away way before we should have. He’s still very young for a manager and has many great years ahead of him. I honestly hope he makes the Mets regret this idiotic decision one day soon.
I agree. This move is like putting a bandaid on a tumor. What irks me the most is that it seemingly lets the players and Omar off the hook.
What about the 13 teams that interviewed Willie and said no thanks before the Mets came along? Do you think they regret their decision? Do you think they believe the team would be no different with Willie as their manager?
I think they are pleased not to have a guy who blew a 7 game lead, blew Game 7 the year before, is now struggling to be .500 with a team every talent scout and baseball expert had winning the division, and used the race card against his own network.
Aaron Heilman blew Game 7, not Willie Randolph. Maybe he shouldn’t have pinch-hit Cliff Floyd, but that wasn’t what lost the game: Aaron Heilman not being able to keep a ball in the Grand Canyon is what lost that game.
But look — if Willie wins a WS with another team, I will eat crow and admit it. I will not pretend I wanted him to stay.
Just as long as you eat crow if the new manager does better than an under .500 record, and you don’t say something like how this would have happened if Willie was here too. THAT would be pathetic. If it’s Manuel or someone else, and they get this team to play better, you better own up and admit that replacing Willie was the right move and that Omar’s team was in fact, good enough to win.
Ready?
that’s neither here nor there ridethesnake. All coaches have varying degrees of success. Some are named coaches of the year one year, and are fired a few years later. You just go with the best info possible and make the decision that you think is best for your team. “The right fit”. My point is that the problems with this team go far beyond Willie. And a lot of those people who picked the Mets [which isn't a barometer of anything] said stuff like, “if Alou can play 80 games, and Pedro stays healthy and, and , and…”
Between you and me though, trust me, I hope Willie was the problem because that means this team has a shot at the post season. I’d love to be wrong on this one.
Anyone read Hank Steinbrenner’s comments about the NL/AL?
I don’t know how to post a link…but it’s in the Post. What a moron.
Now, all these Yankees fans calling up FAN this morning saying how classes the Mets are for this Willie situation (they are) —- but to claim that the Yankees would never do it this way……that is a joke. This is ALL George Steinbrenner did!!!
Completely correct. This was absolutely a classless way to handle the situation with Willie, from start to finish.
But I don’t want to hear that from Yankee fans.
At least we didn’t run a guy who won 4 World Series, appeared in 7, and made the playoffs 12 consecutive years out of town like a bandit.
Yankee fans should be more concerned with their ass of an owner trying to blame the lack of a DH for a freak injury to his ace.
The timing of this is horrible. If you were going to fire Willie, why not do it after the SD trip or before the trip to LA. I mean making him go all the way to LA for one game and then fire him after he wins. Seriously what was the point in letting him get on the plane if no matter what happened in LA he was going to get fired? I only hope this is all on Jeff and not Omar, because I really like Omar and would hate it if he was behind this.
yup, first game back from SD shouldnt have taken place with Willie, it should have been the time for the change right then.
Scumbag move by Omar. What a weasel.
Weasel? couldn’t have said it better. i do not agree at all as to how this was handed but come on guys, it was time sooner rather then later. now be sellers at the trade deadline… please!
I like Randolph, but the way things were going, if he had to go, he had to go..But like this??? I’m so disgusted with this franchise right now. I mean f they fired him in the middle of the night after a road win, they knew they were going to fire him before they even went to California. They should’ve done it after the San Diego sweep or after the Arizona series. Not after they’ve won 3 of the last 5 and with the post season still a realistic possibility AND with no real manager o replace him. Head coaches and managers get replaced by interims when the post season is virtually impossible. And if tey thought Randolph couldn’t get the job done, what makes them think Manuel can????? I think this is gonna hurt the team rather than help. You can forget about playoffs now….
The Mets are so clueless they are probably flying Manuel to NYC to do the press conference at 5PM and then flying him back California in time for tonights game.
(Wouldn’t doubt it after what they did with Church.)