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…i have to be honest, i am a little confused by how how some members of the media are reacting, saying things like, ‘The Mets should be ashamed of themselves,’ and so on…it almost feels like they’re more worked up about having missed the story, because they were all basically getting ready for bed when it broke, than they truly are upset with the Mets…their reaction is bordering on fake outrage, at this point…
…also, i do not sense that fans are truly upset with how Willie Randolph was treated – as much as they’re embarrassed because other fans and media are mocking the us…
…i mean, a few weeks ago i ran a poll and the majority of fans wanted willie fired…now, suddenly, he is a sympathetic figure…in reality, i think our collective frustration has less to do with willie, and more to do with Jerry Manuel, who is not seen as a drastic enough change, and more to do with how the organization is being perceived by rival fans and media outside of New York, such as ESPN’s Mike and Mike who called the Mets ‘a laughing stock’ on their radio program this morning…
…i suspect if the Mets had hired, say, Bobby Valentine, and did it in the middle of the night, we, as fans, would be far more supportive and tolerant of how this was handled…
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Who cares any more? Play ball.
The reason most fan’s don’t care is because they have
as much class as the organization.
Including you.
What the hell are you talking about? All I mean is this is a baseball team we root for. Let’s root for the players now.
They handled it badly, so what else is new?
Baseball teams always handle things badly.
Let’s get the conversation back between the lines.
I will repeat it again the the ones with so much class,
Who give damn play ball.
I waited a long time for that bum to be fired, and I do not care what time of the dayn it was.
Buzz off troll.
This has been standard operating procedure for the Yankee organization for more than 3 decades. Making winning a priority, firing managers early in the season. Talk about class Yankee fans - your beloved own catcher Yogi wouldn;t even set foot inside the Stadium for 20 years because he was treated so shabby by Steinbrenner. If this isn’t the pot calling the kettle black I don’t know what is. Its just fine when Skankees do it in the name of trying to win but for the Mets - Its “whoa hold on” or “what a class-less move.” Total BS.
Lets Go Mets forever.
This whole thing with Randolph is a joke. I will be talking about this at great length on my Mets radio show tonight at 6:30. Call in and tell me what ou all think.
Matt, you are dead wrong about this. The Mets not only blew this, they made Willie into a sympathetic, even heroic figure in the process.
They forced him to endure questions about his job day after day… and he did it with grace, dignity and humor.
They said he needed to start winning… and he did.
They said the team needed to show more energy, even as they were hanging him out to dry in his own clubhouse… and amazingly, they players responded.
Then they said the weekend series against the Rangers was critical… so the team took 2 of 3 and mounted a furious comeback in the one game they lost.
And they fired him anyway.
I don’t pretend to have sources inside the clubhouse, but I think the Mets lacked the guts to make the move when they should have, so they decided to wait for the next losing streak, or case of player apathy. When they didn’t get it, they tried to CREATE it by sabotaging their own team. And when that backfired, they freaked.
“Oh no, they’ve won 3 of 4… let’s fire him now before they win 10 in a row and we’re stuck with him!”
It was a ridiculous way to handle it. The Mets deserve all the bashing they’re getting.
I agree with you. And Omar said he hadn’t made a decision until he got to the park and /or the Hotel and then he told Willie. If that is true then why was he afraid that ’someone’ was going to get to Willie before him? Also what was this about not firing a guy in uniform? Has a GM ever walked out on the field and fired someone?
Did anyone ask Willie or Omar what led to the Mets collapse last year? Honestly I never heard that question asked. If the players had just stopped playing for Willie than I would want to know why. If it was the injuries to older players and there was no one in the organization to bring up than that is Omar’s fault. If the front office was angry and disappointed about last years collapse that’s understandable and I think they really didn’t want to bring Willie back. Then fine, fire him in a professional way; not in a bush league fashion. What happens if Jerry loses 10-12 games in a row? Personally I think they should have fired Willie earlier or give him til the AS break.
I guess I’m ready to move on and root that this team does better.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WANT BOBBY V AS THEIR MANAGER????
“it almost feels like they’re more worked up about having missed the story, because they were all basically getting ready for bed when it broke, than they truly are upset with the Mets…they’re reaction is bordering on fake outrage, at this point…”
Bingo.
I’m amazed at how people don’t see this. I think we’re really seeing the influence of the media on the masses here. Just follow what all the papers and journalists are saying….blah blah blah…it’s obvious that they’re all just frustrated that they couldn’t take advantage of big news like that…
im truly upset . this is no way to treat anyone
EXACTLY. Great call Cerrone. If Willie was fired right…. about….. NOW, they’d all be applauding the move, since they’d have a good 6 hours to get their stories together for the morning newspapers.
Yes, exactly. I’m more concerned about them keeping Manuel and HoJo, who I perceive to be part of the problem.
Newspapers, as Hank would say, are so 1800s. 11am PST, 4am EST, who cares? The Internet is on 24/7, and these guys need to get with the program.
I didn’t think it was time to fire Willie, and I think they made a decision to make a change while not really making a big enough change. I didn’t think it would fix anything, and I definitely don’t think the way they did it will. I don’t think waiting for them to return home would’ve been too late. So even if Omar made the decision last night, he could’ve sat on it and given him one last shot.
It does suck to have to make that flight to get fired, of course, They’re paying him quite a bit to fly back home..
Great points Matt.
Hopefully Omar clears everything up at the press conference and the Mets and fans can move on.
Or not - from someone who tried to follow Omar’s press conference……
Is there a single Mets fan who’s not thinking about Bobby V right now?
It be great, but his boat has sailed.
Umm… weren’t you the same guy who wrote “As a Mets fan, I’m embarrassed this morning, and I feel a little dirty.” just this morning?
FLIP FLOPPER
Sorry Matt. Don’t agree with your anaysis here.
I haven’t read what others wrote, just what’s been written on your blog, and I do feel dirty and cheap. The Mets “family” should have taken care of this in a much better way.
This has nothing to do with Jerry Manuel. Everyone knows that there is no one else available.
Backman is.
It does seem like certain media members are making way too big a deal out of this…it really does feel like they are trying to make a story out of something. It’s a bit much at this point. “A laughingstock”? That just seems kind of harsh. Even Buster Olney on ESPNNEWS a little while ago seemed way too excited to be talking about how disgraceful he finds the Mets’ handling of everything.
Olney is and always has been a Yankee schill. He’s upset his buddy, Willie from the Bronx, won’t be around anymore.
Buster never adds anything of substance, especially when he is talking about the Mets.
Sadly, being referred to as a Laughingstock isn’t harsh enough. I’d call a lineup featuring Damien Easley, Fernando Tatis, Marlon Anderson, Endy Chavez, Brian Schneider, Carlos Delgado, and Luis Castillo downright disgusting. Omar needs to pack his bags, and outside of the Zambrano thing, what did Peterson do wrong? Name a pitcher who did worse than his career average under Peterson. He was a strength for this team. The new guy is scary. He reminds me of my middle school shop teacher-No Horseplay! But hey, this guy has coached pitching powerhouses like the the ‘96 Padres, the ‘02 Tigers, and the ‘08 New Orleans Zephers so no need to worry. I’m starting to hate this team
Matt, you nailed it!
The press is acting all indignant becuase they missed the story. They had to wake up at 4 in the morning to cover something that was long overdue (8 1/2 months overdue, to be exact). That’s all. The media could give a rat’s a** about Willie and him having to fly out to LA for one game and then getting canned.
This is strictly the media acting like cranky children becuase someone rousted them from their precious sleep. Boo-Hoo.
Yes, I agree.
I am embarassed, but also worried about the team having to answer twice as many questions because of front office bungling.
I just want to win!
THANK YOU MATT. sure the mets could have handled this better but it should not be the main story here.
Yea, enough already. Bigger things to worry about, like $5.00 gas. Lets play ball and start winning so it distracts from lifes bigger troubles.
I don’t think it’s Manuel, per se. I think it’s that people enjoy getting riled up and venting righteous anger at the Mets (or anyone). The press (especially talk radio) invited it, and people gleefully piled on. People liek to vent at sports teams these days. It’s an excuse to vent, and can be cathartic for them. They also love to feel like they’re sympathetic and on the side of justice. This reaction allows them to (1) feel and express outrage (i.e., act out) and (2) feel like they support the underdog — the recently dismissed manager.
Matt, I respectfully. Even if the majority of fans wanted Willie fired, they certainly didn’t want him fired like this. The manner in which it was handled was embarrassing to the organization, as well as disrespectful to Willie who deserved better. I personally thought Willie deserved more of a chance, at the very least until the All-Star break to try and turn this around.
He alsready had way to many chances.
Good by, and have a nice day Sillie.
I’m surprised Omar is the GM of a team. He’s clueless