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In a recent chat for ESPN.com, during which he discusses all sorts of issues relating to MLB, Keith Law had the following to say about John Maine:
“He threw a two-seamer for a while last year, but I don’t see him using it any more. That was a potential difference-maker in my opinion.”
…it can be rather grueling to watch him pitch lately, because the at bat just goes on and on and on…what’s weird is that, it feels like maine is pitching worse than he did last season, or, at least having less of an impact, but, according to his stats, he is essentially the exact same pitcher as he was one year ago….
Maine is on pace to win 14 games with a 3.87 ERA, while striking out 170 batters in 200 or so innings.
Last season he won 15 games, had a 3.91 ERA and struck out 180 batters in 191 innings.
…thanks to John K for the link…
…added to by Mike Nichols…
…cerrone is right, opponents at-bats versus Maine do seem to go on and on this season versus last season and the stats prove it, but only slightly…
…added to by Joe Janish …
…Since Maine’s arrival to New York, he’s occasionally had an issue with his mechanics where his front side opens too early, and as a result his pitches fly up and away to lefthanded batters (up and in to righties). This has been more pronounced lately, and hopefully Dan Warthen can identify and fix the problem. The flaw affects his command, and that’s part of the reason he’s pitching deeper counts.
Last season, Maine averaged 4.04 pitches per plates appearance and 17.1 pitches per inning, as compared to 4.17 and 18.0 this season, respectively.
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Trade Maine for Joey Votto.
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No Deal
Votto + then…
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Homer Bailey + Votto, we’ll throw in Delgado as a bonus…lol i wish…
How about we keep Delgado, and just Maine for Votto and Bailey? I don’t think that trade is that far off the mark if it all….Bailey has been putrid at the Major League level, but the kid has potential…so we’ll take that potential…if the Reds added Maine right now, they could still make a run at the post season with all that offense….Volquez, Harang, Maine, Arroyo, Cueto…that’ll work….
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nah i wouldn’t trade Maine
Sentimentality doesn’t win Championships…and that’s why I’m a fan. To see Championships won…you should re-examine your rooting interest in my opinion…and while you’re at it…your life and your personality.
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umm…you’re sounding like a yankee fan right now.
i enjoy watching maine, and i’m a fan to enjoy watching my team and its players, not just win championships, because then i would be rooting for the wrong team.
Why would a guy who has been “putrid” but with “potential” win us championships any more than Maine could help?
If you’re the reds why would you do Maine for Votto and Bailey?
umm…What? Wanting to win Championships IS NOT unique to yankay fans. I spit on the yankays, their fans, and everything about them.
You probably go to the stadium and boo, laugh like a hyena, and have a stupid look on your face 24/7. I hate “fans” like you. You’d rather the Mets lose than win so you can giggle, hate, and or pity yourself. You make me sick. You and your type are the biggest detriment to this franchise. Not Omar, not Tony B or Randolph; you. You’re horrible. The Mets are a business, and while you exist, their foolishness will exist. I hate you.
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Votto would have an immediate impact on the team where as Bailey potentially could help down the line…
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If I’m the Reds I need pitching….and have offense…that’s why I’d do Votto and Bailey for Maine…
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Bailey is a pitcher last time I checked and one of the highest rated pitching prospects in the minors. They’re obviously not going to compete this year so why would they trade two young players, both with tremendous upside, for a middle of the rotation starter? It makes absolutely no sense.
Bailey’s name has floated about, and yes, I’m fully aware of the position of Bailey nor was that ever in any doubt. Word on the street is that he’s available. The Reds have an abundance of offense, and dealing Votto and Bailey for Maine actually does make a lot of sense….for both sides.
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John Maine is anything but a middle of the rotation starter. hes a 15 game winner who came up huge in two of the most important games in recent franchise history (game 161 of last season vs the marlins and game 6 of the 2006 NLCS). The kid is young and has a good head on his shoulders. I wouldnt trade him for Votto, Bailey, or Bruce.
Maine will have a just as good if not better career than Volquez.
You ppl are idiots for wanting to trade Maine.
I like Maine, but trading him for Votto and Bailey does make sense.
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Oliver Perez is a 15 game winner too.
I like Maine but he’s a #3 pitcher, a very good #3 pitcher but still a #3. It would make zero sense for a team that’s not in contention anyway to trade two young players with considerable upside, one who grades outt as a #1 pitcher, for a #3 pitcher. They need pitching but they don’t need it right now, they’re not going anywhere right now, they can afford to wait for Bailey.
And really it doesn’t make any sense for us either, we can’t afford to wait for Bailey if we want to compete this year or next and we’re opening a huge hole in a rotation already lacking depth. We’d be going into next year with Johan and Pelfrey locked up and a bunch of question marks.
well we’ll have to agree to disagree then, but I think you’re incredibly wrong….on all accounts, and sound almost a little insane.
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that I agree with.
Shes comparing Bailey a guy who has been up and down in the majors multiple times and shown nothing as a potential #1, however saying maine a 15 game winner and proven big game pitcher as a #3.
Stupid.
And I know Ollie Perez, and Ollie Perez is no john maine!
Trade Mets Fan for someone with intelligent comments
Trade our most consistent pitcher? that is plain stupid or unfunny. not sure which…
How is he our most consistent pitcher? Ever hear of a guy named Johan Santana?
With Pedro’s return, and Pelfrey coming on strong…I don’t think Maine offers that much more than we can get from Vargas…..Vargas might have a higher ERA, but 5-6 innings a start is 5-6 innings….Votto would have an impact in our line-up everyday, and set us for the future at the position….we can pick up a Starter somewhere, but it’s hard getting a good hitting First Baseman…..that can also play the Outfield….
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That seems like opposite of the generally accepted reasoning on the topic. First base is generally easier to fill than SP. Next year, if Pedro doesnt re-sign, we have Pelfrey and Santana locked up. You want to go into the offseason with 2 spots filled in your rotation? Do you want to be forced to overpay oliver perez to be inconsistent because we have no other options? I’d rather keep Maine, and try to overpay Teixiera to come to the Mets…
The yankays are gonna way over spend on Teixeira….and I say let them. We trade Maine for Votto, sign Francisco Rodriguez instead of Teixeira, and be sure to get him. He’ll have to be a set-up guy for a year or maybe Wagner is for a year…maybe they’ll do a Closer by committee with the two…I don’t care…I want F-ROD and with him and Wagner at the end of games forget about it…I’d also sign Juan Cruz….
We re-sign Both Pedro(2/20) and Perez(5/65) and let Heilman Start the year off in the fifth spot….Bailey in reserve…maybe Pavano on a Minor League deal? I’d take Ben Sheets instead of or in addition to Perez though….
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“John has been our most consistent pitcher,” Randolph said. “He’s improving more and more.”
Granted that was over 3 weeks ago. Johan has not been that consistent. I bet they are close on quality starts….
You don’t watch a lot of baseball do you?
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who are you possibly accusing of watching much baseball, you just suggested signing a ghost and a pitcher with more walks than ks to a five year deal
Mets Fan, so you would rather overpay for K-Rod, a pitcher and reliever nontheless, rather than Teixeira, a position player. That makes no sense. If K-Rod was a starting pitcher then maybe I would even consider going after him rather than Teixeira but that is not the case. The Mets have a dire need at first since Delgado has become inept at his position in recent years. His bat is not better either.
I am not even sure K-Rod would be able to handle the pressure in NY. It is one thing to play great in laid back Cali but to get it done in the Big Apple is a whole different matter in itself.
wait, you said to move Heimlich maneuver into the rotation AND to sign Pavano to a minor league deal…
Okay so after you have shelled out 85M for the rights to the ghosts of Christmas past and Christmas Frightening you want to move a former terrible starter who can’t get 3 outs to save his life into the starting rotation.
After all this crazy haggling, you know what would be easier, signing Texiera.
you’re hilarious…and ever so original….
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Guys…it’s a joke…not that we would ever want this trade to happen…right?
wrong. Votto fills a need, and Bailey is a welcomed addition…
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They always find a way on here, don’t they?
The ‘K’ stands for kidding right???
K stands for Kherub.
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Kherub that is you? So you are done floating around your crazy trade proposals on the Mets.com boards and are now passing them around here? You despire Maine then and you still seem to feel the same way now.
I would not trade Maine unless it was a deal that clearly advantaged the Mets. I do not think Joey Votto and Homer Bailey is that deal.
By the way, why not trade Carlos Delgado for Roy Halladay? That is a win-win-win deal for the Mets right?
despised*
lol, I got permanently banned from Mets.com…again….
I don’t see how Maine for Votto+ is crazy….Votto and Bailey for Maine seems about right to me…
Mets are gonna need a First Baseman, and need offense now….the Phillies are only behind the Rangers in runs scored…Votto and Bailey for Maine is a win/win situation for both teams.