Comments on: Note: Reyes is on Fire

By: chew13

chew13 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:58:46 +0000

Jose looked like his old self. I hate to say it, because it would mean that my favorite player was dogging it… but I think Jose’s problem was with Willie. He looked way happier than I’ve seen him in a long time. The whole team did.

By: MEX

MEX — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:53:32 +0000

I just think you attribute too much conscious agency to people. I mean, I do things all the time without thinking about it: pick fights with my girlfriend, prevent somebody from merging into traffic, half-ass grading a paper. It would take an enormous amount of attention and tremendous acts of will to always monitor whether I am shortchanging people who don’t deserve it, and then correct it.

I don’t believe for a second Reyes intentionally played to less than his ability, but I can easily imagine he subconsciously sabotaged his own efforts, even when he wanted to give one hundred percent, because of unhappiness with his work environment which Randolph may have caused. So, I could understand the idea that somebody thinks he will improve even more now that Randolph is gone.

In truth I think Reyes’ poor performance from June on last year was mostly a slump, but one that was exacerbated by the tension between him and Randolph. But, I think he and Randolph patched things up over the winter, and Reyes’ poor start was just a slow start we will forget about when his stat line looks like: .310 BA/.370 OBO/110 runs scored.

By: guierllNO MOta

guierllNO MOta — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:37:59 +0000

Dude, I get what your saying is my point is, if Reyes purposefully didnt play his to his potential out of spite for his manager that he let down the people who pay him (owners) and the people who love him (us)…and no matter how much you hate Willie Randolph, if any of the 25 players that we watch day-in, day-out for half of every year are cheating us, the fans (the people NOT getting paid millions)…than I will hate that player, period.

Now I still maintain Reyes has slumped for a year because of the worst hitting coach in baseball, hojo, but if your theory of why he sucked is correct, then I now hate Reyes more than Hojo, Rickey & Bonilla, thast all Im saying

By: MEX

MEX — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:26:46 +0000

Right, no problem, I don’t want to get into an insult contest, just want to defend myself like a gangsta’ would.

But, dude, come one that’s casuistry at its finest if you are arguing that ins some cases some players can’t be expected to run as hard as they can on a ground ball because they are slow. It also ignore the case in point for Reyes, he thought the ball was going to go foul when he didn’t run it out. In Delgado’s case, the fielder could make an error. Also, it ignores that two players who do have some speed, Wright and Beltran, weren’t benched for failing to hustle.

By: guierllNO MOta

guierllNO MOta — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:58:43 +0000

you are right, I just looked up and was the first, my bad. My fault.

Howveer, the 25 guys in the clubhouse didnt take offense when the other guys didnt run, they did when Reyes didnt because Reyes can beat out plays even when they AREN’T errors. Delgado is out either way, so there is a difference.

Also Reyes is given the green light on the bases and Schneider isnt…unequal? no just baseball logistics.

By: MEX

MEX — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:52:04 +0000

By the way, you were the first to throw around the insults:

HOW CAN YOU DEFEND REYES IF YOU CLAIM HE PURPOSELY DIDN’T PLAY HARD TO GET WILLIE FIRED?!?!?!?!?!?! IDIOTS.

By: MEX

MEX — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:42:57 +0000

Uh, Randolph did treat Reyes unequally; Reyes was benched for not running out a ground ball, Wright, Delgado, and Beltran were not. It was widely reported that Randolph got on Reyes’ case in front of other players, but dealt with others in his office.

By: guierllNO MOta

guierllNO MOta — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:38:28 +0000

When did Willie treat Reyes unprofessionally? When he played him every day? When he benched him for lack of hustle (that his teammates admitted they were mad at Reyes for…see WFAN interviews from that period)…what?

Willie gave Reyes every chance to succeed, played him every day, admonished him ONCE for something Reyes WAS AT FAULT FOR, and defended him to the media and everyone else…dang, WIllie even got the offical score keeper to overturn a call and award Reyes a stolen base through a formal appeal…no other manager in baseball wouldve done that…yikes, get your facts straight, and dont try and defend an insubordinate and bash me in the process, sorry that degree from Subway U. didnt work out for you.

By: MEX

MEX — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:29:47 +0000

I’d fire you for your lack of reading comprehension skills. I never suggested it was okay for a player to intentionally play hard. I was simply pointing out that when you have a poor boss who treats his employees poorly, unequally, and makes it hard for them to succeed, then the employees will not either be able to work up to their potential or will subconsciously not work up to their potential.

When a real smart CEO reviewed an underperforming unit he would identify whether the boss gave his employees a chance to succeed or not; if yes, the employees go, and rightfully so, if no, then the boss goes and rightfully so.

When you graduate from school and your paper route into a real world job come back to me and let me know how often you gave one hundred percent.

By: theperfectgame

theperfectgame — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:49:37 +0000

Last link, I promise, but this one actually details how Win Shares are calculated.

http://www.baseballgraphs.com/main/index.php/site/details/#sharecalc