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Note: Krivsky on as Scout
By Regis Courtemanche - Jun 20, 2008 9:07 am

According to Tracy Ringolsby in the Rocky Mountain News, the Mets have hired former Cincinnati Reds GM Wayne Krivsky as a major league scout.

Krivsky worked with Omar Minaya in the Rangers’ front office.

52 Responses to “Note: Krivsky on as Scout”

  1. hot stove chef says:

    A major league scout has got to be one of the best jobs out there.

    • magic00700magic says:

      Mets have slighly over $50 million coming off the books at the end of the season. Given the new stadium (and the still fairly new SNY), Mets will most likely reinvest all of it.

      This means that if OMAR is still our GM, he will have a big finger print on this team for years to come (perhaps even longer than his enture here).

      As such, I hope the Mets think long and hard about retaining Omar and letting him spend such a big purse.

      Omar has made some nice moves, but he has also made questionable signings (Four years to Castillo? Two years to that gimp Alou?). He has traded away youth (he did this in Montreal as well and the Nats are still feeling the repercussions).

      Will the Mets suffer the same fate? Will the Mets move Omar? Will they trust Omar? Will Omar do a better job?

      Time will tell. As a Mets fan (which is something I will never be able to change), I am stuck just watching.

      • Mr. Bananagrabber says:

        It wasn’t two years on Alou. It was one with a team option. And after last September with Alou, why wouldn’t you have taken him on for another year? There is no way Omar thought he would get a full season out of him, but there is also no way of him knowing he’d only have played in like 15 games so far.

      • Tidewater says:

        are you sure it’s 50 mil? Remember that both Wright and Reyes are due pretty big bumps in salary next year.

    • Anyone know if this guy was responsible for Joey Votto, Jay Bruce, Josh Hamilton, Cueto, Homer Baily?

      If so, does this mean we actually have a scout with good baseball instincts?

      • metsforever says:

        He kind of fell into Hamilton. He was a drug addict with great baseball skills but the drugs won. tampa left him unprotected. Krivsky deserves credit for taking the chance

        • ravi3 says:

          nooooo he did not “fall into” Hamilton. He actually worked out a deal with the Cubs, who had the #2 pick in that year’s Rule V draft. Krivsky got the cubs to select Hamilton and trade him to Cincy in exchange for a player.

          Krivsky is responsible for resurrecting Brandon Phillips’ career by acquiring him from the Indians. He is also responsible for bringing Volquez to Cincy. I really like that Wayne is on board.

        • Cool thanks for the info.. I hear he had a hand in some key Twins contracts as well.

          This may be very good for The Mets

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          I certainly hope Krivsky was brought on as a hedge in case the team feels they need to replace Omar. Having Bernazard as the heir apparent makes my skin crawl. Maybe that’s Omar’s master stroke — solidify your position by making the alternative look like a nightmare. . .

          On second thought, who cares? Play ball.

  2. scalala says:

    This looks like a positive step to improve Metropolitans Minor League system.

  3. beltran the warrior says:

    maybe he can tell omar to trade for gary majewski.

  4. Ferragamo says:

    I like this hire, Krivsky got a raw deal from ownership in Cincy and was responsible for many good moves likes Brandon Phillips, Bronson Arroyo and most recently Edison Volquez. I’m not sure how involved Krivsky was with the farm system, but they’ve developed some very good talent from Jay Bruce and Joey Votto to Johnny Cueto.

    Does this mean we could get rid of Tony Bernazard now?

    • dwright012 says:

      Volquez for Hamilton is pretty debatable… Hamilton is your AL MVP right now….

      • theperfectgame says:

        And Volquez is probably your NL Cy Young. It’s a trade that has helped both teams (although that help has yet to manifest itself in the standings). The Reds dealt from an area of strength (OF offense) to address an area of need (starting pitching). While obviously not a fleecing, I’d say, as of now, it qualifies as a good trade.

        • dwright012 says:

          Im fairly certrain Brandon Webb is the CY Young…

          We’ll have to see which player slows down first I guess… the real genius was claiming Hamilton in the Rule V draft.. whoever did that deserves a raise.

        • Mr. Bananagrabber says:

          I think that’s the Cubbies then.

        • theperfectgame says:

          I’m less certain. Webb’s been great, but look at their numbers. Volquez has a better ERA (1.64!! to 3.23) more strikeouts (105 to 82; 10.7 per 9 to 7.5 per 9) and a better average against (.190 to .229). Also, while Webb has 2 more wins (11 to 9), Volquez has lost only 1 start (his other loss came from the bullpen) to Webb’s 3.

          Webb is 2-3 over the last month, whereas Volquez is 2-1 (and hasn’t lost a start). Over that period, Volquez has given up 3 ER or more only once (and it was 3 ER), Webb’s done it 4 times. Webb’s slowed down.

          I really think Volquez is your NL Cy Young at this point.

        • Tidewater says:

          I keep hearing that this trade helped both teams, but in reality it’s more like this trade involved two productive players. The Rangers’ pitching is terrible, and they’re hitting amazing (I know Hamilton is part of the reason why) so they probably would have been better keeping Hamilton.

          I say this trade was better for the Reds because of need, nit necessarily quality.

        • Gina says:

          I agree, the Red have plenty of offense so they went out and got a pitcher, the Rangers on the other hand had plenty of offense and needed pitching. Most Rangers fans I know love Hamilton but still don’t think the deal made much sense considering their needs.

        • Tidewater says:

          Gina… you agree with me? :)

        • theperfectgame says:

          Two productive players is a better way to put it. Good call, Tidewater. Although if Hamilton is still chasing the Triple Crown in August, maybe that’ll get a few more butts in the seats and thus help out the franchise? I know, it’s a reach…

    • Jova1931 says:

      I would hope so.

  5. Joe D says:

    Another Minaya cronie, but at least this one looks talented enough to handle the job, unlike Bernazard…

  6. backinbusiness says:

    The Mets have hired [their first] Major League Scout. Sweet, maybe he will check out AAAA pitchers in advance!

  7. Xavier22 says:

    I liked this part of the article in particular:

    “When Art Howe was managing the Mets, Jeff Wilpon, son of Mets owner Fred Wilpon, was so enthralled with the book Moneyball that he took a copy to Howe’s office and told the manager he could learn some things from it.

    Makes you wonder how closely young Wilpon actually read the book. If he had paid attention, he would have known that Howe lived Moneyball, having managed the A’s when the author was hanging around and putting together his shallow interpretation of the baseball genius that is Oakland GM Billy Beane.”

    • dwright012 says:

      Art Howe is also ripped in that book…. it describes him as just a puppet.. who does whatever Beane told him to do.. that’s pretty freakin funny…

      The worst part about moneyball is the part where he tries to sell readers on the fact that Beane doesn’t care if the As win in the post season.. since his only job is too get them there..

      Yeah.. that’s believable…

      • 0h the ag0ny says:

        honestly..if you look how he builds teams..you can tell its for a post season birth at most.

        && barring a miracle, they’re never ready for the playoffs.. and after a stint in the playoffs with the players getting a little older more experienced and better, ready to really make a run…he breaks down the team by selling expensive parts for more young talent and the cylce continues.

        BEANE is a master at setting up young premium talent to succeed.. its really unbelievable when you look at it

      • ravi3 says:

        That is not what he is saying. Beane views the postseason as a crapshoot, as it is a very small sample size. The best one can do is build a team that can maintain a high level of play over 162 games, and then hope the team gets hot at the right time.

        • theperfectgame says:

          Bingo. And while that line of thinking isn’t perfect, it holds a lot more water than many traditionalists give it credit for…

    • petercast41 says:

      Did Moneyball have a chapter on how A’s players end up on steroid user lists?

    • dykstraw II says:

      if jeff is such a moneyball fan, does he realize that best supporting character paul depodesta is not currently employed as a major league GM?

  8. Bench5urvivor says:

    Krivsky was able to unearth a couple of diamonds in the rough, Brandon Philips anyone?
    Here’s hoping!
    At the least, he’s an up and coming baseball man who showed some chops in Cinci.

    • Ferragamo says:

      Don’t forget about Jeff Keppinger, another Met throw away unearthed by Krivsky.

    • JohnMilner says:

      Didn’t he unearth Philips from Montreal, when Omar was the GM?

      • BIG17EASY says:

        No, Phillips was traded by Montreal (along with Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Lee Stevens) to Cleveland for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew in 2002. Cincy got him from Cleveland for a player to be named later (turned out to be minor leaguer Jeff Stevens) in 2006.

      • metsforever says:

        He got Philips from Cleveland, who stole him from Omar

        • BIG17EASY says:

          You could look at it that way, considering Cleveland got Sizemore and Lee out of the deal, but at the time of the trade, the Expos were 6.5 out of first and thought Colon would help them catch Atlanta. He went 10-4 after joining Montreal, so he did what Omar was hoping he would do. But the rest of the team didn’t play as well down the stretch and they finished a distant second. In the end, the trade didn’t work out for Montreal, but it made sense at the time. Can’t blame Omar for that.

        • Tidewater says:

          Plus, operating the Expos in those days was just weird. Nobody knew if they’d be moved, sold, contracted, whatever.

          It was a trade that stocked the Indians, for sure, but it has to be seen through a prism unlike any other I can think of in baseball.

    • BIG17EASY says:

      Phillips was not a diamond in the rough. He was a long-time prospect in both the Montreal and Cleveland organizations that didn’t start playing up to his potential until he got to Cincinnati. Give Krivsky credit for getting Phillips while giving up nothing in return (Jeff Stevens), but don’t give him credit for seeing something in Phillips that nobody else saw. Remember, Phillips is a career .263 hitter who averaged 98.5 strikeouts in his first two full big league seasons and is on pace to surpass that this year.

      • LongJohnMaine says:

        That’s a little harsh, what about his positives? Phillips went also 30/30 last year. He is definitely on pace to go 30/30 this year. I’d take him over any second baseman not named Chase Utley, and maybe Ian Kinsler.

        Anyway love this move, I thought Krivsky got a raw deal in Cincy, especially when I read the Corey Patterson signing was forced on him by Castellini.

        • BIG17EASY says:

          You’re right, Phillips is a good player. People are throwing his name around like Krivsky found this superstar in a pile of horse manure. That’s why I pointed out some of his negatives. He’s a good player, but he has his faults and Krivsky got him in Cincy only after Cleveland decided four years was long enough to wait for him to break out. So it’s as much Shapiro’s fault for not giving him one more year as it was Krivsky’s foresight.

          Personally, I would take Utley, Kinsler, Howie Kendrick and probably Brian Roberts over Phillips. But if that makes him the fifth best second baseman to me, that’s pretty decent.

        • LongJohnMaine says:

          Yea, I just figured both the pros and cons of Phillips should be listed. He’s a pretty good fielder too.

          And yea, I’d take any one of those guys over our currently second baseman any day of the week and twice on Sunday, along with about 15 other guys.

  9. theperfectgame says:

    Did Wilpon hire him, or did Minaya? I guess it’s nice to have a “break glass in case of emergency” GM on hand…

  10. 0h the ag0ny says:

    maybe this guy can tell OMAR that CARP would probably be a more consistent hitter at this point then DELGottAGO…

    honestly …power #’s aside… DELGADO is horrible.

    Ground Out RBI’s and Solo HR’s are the reason for his DECENT numbers. what we need is a consistent threat to have good at bats && CARP has just been proclaimed the most dangerous hitter in the eastern league where pitching is at a premium. if anything the kids earned a shot.

  11. GravediggerHebner says:

    Well it looks like Tony B has another person to undermine on his bull-in-a-china-shop path to becoming GM.

  12. Dafatone80 says:

    Wayne Krivsky traded two starting position players (Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez) to the Nats for bullpen help. Then the better half of the bullpen help had his arm fall off.

    Ew.

    He does have a good resume of talent, as mentioned. As long as he’s not in charge of trades…

  13. mistermet says:

    Great hire, this guy got a raw deal in Cincinnati, and has drafted/ developed young studs like Votto, Bruce, Cueto- and was able to acquire Hamilton for nothing, who he traded for a big, big pitcher in Volquez. Time to terminate Tony Bernazard though- enough is enough.

  14. Rockin-Redlegs says:

    Krivsky wasnt responsible for drafting Joey Votto, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto, or Homer Bailey…..Dan O’Brien was.

    As for Hamilton, Phillips, and Volquez, it was his scouts that he used that went and found those guys, not him. He just gave the ok with each of those deals.

    As a Reds fan, trust me, we are glad Krivsky is gone.

    Not only was he incompetent and unrespeceted by his peers, but he made ALOT of really dumb decisions, including several bad trades and handing out way too many contract extensions to players that didnt deserve them…

    (i.e. – Mike Stanton , Rheal Cormier , Ryan Freel , Josh Fogg, Juan Castro, ect, ect.)

    Afterall, he was fired for a reason.