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Following tonight’s 11–0 loss to the Mariners, Jerry Manuel told reporters that his team needs to figure some things out, as a staff, ‘to get on track and stay on track,’ adding:
“We might have some tough decisions to make…We can’t continue to go play good, don’t play good, and not find a consistent formula. We have to find a consistent formula at some point, and we have not found that yet. So, we’ve got to do what we can. It could mean some tough decisions…Could be lineup changes, could be rotation changes, could be all types of changes, we have to do what we have to do to get this team on track. We have such great fans, and they’re just waiting, they’re waiting, they’re waiting, they’re waiting, they’re waiting for us to do well, just hoping we do well and we’re not giving them anything and that’s not fair to them.”
According to Manuel, he and Omar Minaya have not yet talked about potential trade acquisitions, however he says they soon will, ‘No doubt about that.’
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Like JoeFruit said above. The Phillies lost tonight. So did the Marlins. So did the Braves. Mets lose no ground. Let’s go out, get ‘em tomorrow, then jump-start our season by taking 3 of 4 against the Yanks!
You are just joking -right?
Was he supposed to say “Let’s go out and make this a real awful losing streak!”?
The only part of his comment that I find to be a joke is the “3 of 4.” I want to sweep the Yanks.
Silly Willie should have been gone last year, and all the real Mets fans wondered why he was retained, and why it took so long to fire him this year. But in his interview with Mike and the Mad Dog, Minaya reminded us that “you have to remember that Willie is African American.” And thus his race was the reason for the delay in firing. In the Mets organization, it’s apparent that winning takes a back seat to affirmative action. Definitely not surprising on the team known as “Los Mets!” You’re an idiot, Fred!
thats the way the world works unfortunately…gotta cover your butts for the lawsuits…even if the employee isn’t earning his paycheck…which, by the way, HE IS STILL GETTING PAID!!! poor willie
Hey Mistermet, who cares how many catchers we are carrying and how many teams have carried 3 catchers in the past 120 years. Waste your energy on trying to figure out the real reason the Mets are losing. Puhleeeeeeeze.
Shipdr19,
The ridiculous/idiotic carrying of a 3rd catcher for 2.5 months is a microcosm of Minaya’s incompetence….It would take me 6 hours to document the totality of his transgressions, failures, mistakes, etc. He should have been fired long ago. But I’m hearing that Tony Bernazard is the air apparent….Los Mets now and forever!
If Bernazard is the heir apparent, we are in trouble. Big time. Listen, I didn’t like the idea of carrying 3 catchers either, but it’s becoming apparent that that’s not the reason this team is losing. There’s about 30,000 reasons this team sucks right now.
The Mets still have a manager problem, the GENERAL Manager.
Omar’s philosophy has been shown to be weak and vulnerable.
that is to say, signing star players on the back side of the hill (Alou, Pedro, Delgado, Castillo, Santana in his 3rd year with the Mets=$60M) counting on both health and production and get neither.
building around core young players (Reyes, Wright, Maine, Smith, Perez, Church) which is nice, but most teams now possess that quality, giving the Mets no advantage
and then there is the AARP crew (Easley, Tatis, Anderson, Nixon, Duque, and countless other characters)that Omar thought would fill in the gaps, but has really turned into a complete circus.
an then there is the minor league system which is absolutely bankrupt compared to other ML teams.
In need of an outfielder for a three week stint? the Mets have NO MLB talent at AAA and call up a 21 year old from AA, who after getting his bat to collide a few times with a pitched ball, then looked totally overmatched.
this philosophy counted on the health and production from older players and basically have gotten none of it. the youngsters have been very good, but not yet great. OP is a disaster and the BP is inconsistent.
this is a team built for .500 and is roughly performing to its potential.
BTW- willie cashed a check for over $150k this month and will do so for the next 18 months.
Nothing burns Coupon’s rear end like eating a managers salary and seeing that nothing has really changed must have him ready for a coronary
those scrappy phillies. their heart and grit has led them to…6 straight losses.
having 3 possible mvps in a row + having the mets collapse=grit
their “grit” caused the mets to collapse? alright, buddy.
and having 3 possible mvp’s in a row = combination of media hype and…TALENT.
first of all “buddy” my point is, they aren’t “gritty” they just flat out have talent, having 3 players who could all win an mvp consecutively, along with the mets collapsing, is what people claim as “grit” when it is just talent and good fortune…i dont understand posters who get all angry with other posters, we’re all mets fans, no need to get snippy
I have been done with this team for weeks but to me, as bad as the Willie firing was, this is the low point. The absolute worst team comes to Shea and outscores you 18-1 in the first 2 games. This after a winning road trip. Talk of change is in the air. It is time to either look to see if an AL team would want Delgado down the stretch or cut him. The Mets have 2 minor leaguers that can play first. We should take a look. Castillo, Reyes and Wright aren’t going anywhere. Neither is Schneider and Church. I would seriously look to see if anyone would take Beltran. He is talented but not a leader. He has 3 year I believe on his contract and a no-trade clause but in the right situation, I could see him wanting out. I would look to see if there are takers for Pedro and maybe even Wagner. This team plays to the level of its competition. That is why they are around .500 There will be no stretch drive watching the Mets win 20 of 30. They need to be something like 20 games over .500 to just get to 90 wins. That isn’t going to happen. Dump players and salary, and build through the draft. That will free up money for free agency this winter while giving minor leaguers a look for a few months before determining who to target in the off season.
wow. i agree with getting rid of delgado, but you can’t really be serious about getting rid of beltran. he’s a very talented player. makes center field look effortless. gets it done with the bat every year (2006’s final at-bat aside…) i love how beltran continues to get criticized yet wright is wearing a bullet-proof vest.
Getting rid of Beltran is not the solution. Your an Idiot.
We simply need to cut Delgado and see what Carp gives us at 1st. Or even try A. Reyes at 2nd, how much worse than Castillo can he be?
sell sell sell sell smart ,sell old for ,young ,sell and wait for next year
wright is becoming a jeter like presence without winng anything
yeah but DWright was voted one of the top overrated players in that players poll…i dont agree but there are some people who think dw is overrated…i like beltran, but even if we wanted to trade, nobody will pay him 17 mil a year
shows how much the players know (or don’t know) about their own sport.
thats probably also the NY bias, since everyone is jealous of ny players and fans because we are the mecca of the sports world
You know who else was on that list? A-Rod.
Conversation over.
oh wow now wright is getting criticized. if i were a free agent, i would never want to play in a new york, a city full of people who know next to nothing about the sports they claim to love.
Yes I would want to work my whole career to get to be a free agent then sign with kansas City or maybe Chicago? yes they are so kind in Chicago.The fans would never give someone a hard time there-now would they?
the dodgers will
Well at least manuel acknowledges changes need to be made. Something willie didn’t do. He’d just run the same lineup out there everyday, i can only hope manuel delivers on that promise.
Quite frankly though, i understand where still only four games out of first place. However how long do we have to keep this charade going before we actually play with some consistancy. The phillies aren’t going to stay cold forever. What happens when they get hot again? We’ll be right back to 7 games out. the standing aren’t worrying me right now, its this team. They have played like this for 2 and a half months now, up and down, up and down, and give no indication their going to come out of it.
Changes that need to be made? How about taking castillo the hell out of the 2 hole. Yeah he has a decent obp, but his avg is down to 250. Plus unlike a lot of other 2 hitters in baseball with high obp, he has no pop whatsoever and kills rallies. Not to mention his defense has struggled as well.
Delgado. Again had a few good weeks. Back down to 230 now. Something has to be possibly done with him as well. Although if we get church and maybe another hitter via trade i wouldn’t mind him staying as idk what better options their are.
Is it me or does our offense play alot worse with castillo in the lineup? Seriously i know omar is probably thinking it was a mistake to give this guy 4 years, but if omar wants to keep his job and wants this team to start winning, he’s going to have to make some changes. If he can’t see what us fans see (that some of these guys are playing horrible) then he needs to go right now.
What a loose and fun loving clubhouse atomsphere they have now under Manuel! Boy, move over Miller Huggins, make way for the Gantsta Manuel. He has all the solutions to all the problems. Let’s trade Tony Armas for Mark Texeiria. Dopes…
At least everyone in the NL East lost last night. Another wasted opportunity to pick up ground, but at least we didn’t lose any. At some point we’ll need to win some games.
At some point we will need to win games.
WHAT A HYPOTHESIS!!!
Soon if you rush that one to the lab, you could turn it into a practicing theory, in fact, I think you could skip directly to a law of mathematics.
How’s it taste Alfred Nobel?
Kind of reminds me of 1962. We drafted aging veterans off of teams that didn’t need them. 5 years younger, the team would have probably been good enough to win a pennant, Some of those guys had been that good
Give me Delgado, Castillo, Alou & Pedro from 2003, and we’d be running away with the pennant.
The point is that a team on the plus side of 32-33 is going to have a short shelf life and will show signs of decline
Hey Jerry, you go Girl. Ladies on the bus.
I heard a rumor that a fan was talking about a trade for Bay last night.
Can you imagine getting paid $16 million to suck? What a life Carlost Delgattago! (Props to whoever made that up - I read it yesterday thought it was great) He sucks, and laughs about it. He needs to be released. Bring up Carp - get Mike Jacobs back. Anyone who thinks Beltran should be traded is retarded. D-Wright is slumping and making errors. He was benched yesterday to clear his head. He was not benched to “freshen up.” Props to Manuel. Pray for a healthy Church. Not from a selfish, he’s the difference maker standpoint because he isn’t, but from a human being standpoint. Some people don’t seem to get that serious concussions could be career enders. Let’s think about the person not the player. And get Barry Bonds for leftfield for the rest of the year. It can’t hurt. Thanks for letting me vent. “Looks like we’ll be doing a little more venting!”
“Ok, you know what I mean? Ok.”
you know, that would help with communication. Everyone could speak in Spanish and there would be fewer misunderstandings. I mean, who needs Wright or Wagner or Maine or Pelfrey…. (wait, maybe you can make a special exception clause for pitchers)
Ok…OK…OK…okay?…ok….Ok…okay?
did you listen to that spliced audio? awesome
i do feel for omar in that he seems to have grown up a met fan, and to be failing and having other fans call for your head cuz you cant hack your dreamjob, that sucks
ya and him fighting back tears at the press conference for willie.
btw, the fans who stay up late are a lot nicer than some of the ones during the game…some of them are kind of scary
i wouldnt know, havent been on the site long, im sure everyone ha