News: Beltran and Manuel Fined

June 26, 2008 at 3:09 pm · 59 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

Carlos Beltran and Jerry Manuel were fined for their interaction Tuesday night with umpire Brian Runge.

Runge, however, was not fined, but was suspended for one game.

{ 59 comments }

GuruMets June 26, 2008 at 3:10 pm

Appropriate indeed.

UpperDeckDweller June 26, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Sweet Justice!

Louis619 June 26, 2008 at 4:39 pm

One game for bumping a Manager? If it was the other way around it would have been at least 5 games. I HATE UMPS!!

theperfectgame June 26, 2008 at 3:11 pm

Glad to see the ump was fined and suspended too. That went too far.

MetsFan4Decades June 26, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Did I miss something? Matt reports Runge got suspended but not fined…..

iluvbuckner June 26, 2008 at 6:06 pm

he wasn’t fined.

Berbalerbs June 26, 2008 at 3:11 pm

I’d say how I really feel about Brian Runge, but I noticed no one curses uncontrollably or makes death threats on this blog, so….

um, he more than likely has a tiny pee-pee, which would explain his actions. Ok, I’m going to go find an R rated site and go buck wild!

debmc June 26, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Beltran and Manuel should appeal; I think they have a very good chance of having their fines/suspensions overturned.

Runge, on the other hand, was clearly in the wrong, clearly the instigator and clearly acted in a totally unprofessional manner.

magic00700magic June 26, 2008 at 3:29 pm

They have no suspesion, only a fine.

debmc June 26, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Doesn’t change the point of my post — whether it’s a suspension, fine, or suspension/fine (note the “slash” there, denoting either, not to fine pick a point, but since you opened the door…), they should appeal it; clearly Runge was the instigator, and although they both responded, Runge did in fact “bump” Manuel, and did in fact apologize for it later, and he did, in fact, bait Carlos Beltran. If I were Manuel and/or (note the “slash” there, again) Beltran, I would certainly appeal the fine.

Gasface77 June 26, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Nice…Magic got burned/owned.

NickA33 June 26, 2008 at 4:02 pm

If you were Manual/Beltran…

That’s impossible, you can’t be both at the same time. Besides, Manual/Beltran doesn’t even exist…

nyleetch2 June 26, 2008 at 4:08 pm

I don’t know if the two of you have a history on this site, but if not, it seemed to me that magic was merely trying clarify a situation where your slash might have suggested that one of Manuel and Beltran got suspended, or at least the possibility that they did. Since there were, in fact, no suspensions given to Manuel and Beltran, I don’t think magic meant any offense, and there wasn’t really any reason to take exception to his clarification of your point.

That said, while the whole thing was instigated by Runge, Manuel and Beltran did allow his baiting to get to them and they reacted. I agree that they shouldn’t have been fined, but that happens (in hockey, if i guy instigates a fight, he gets an extra penalty, but both players get fighting penalties). At any rate, Beltran and Manuel make enough money, that it’s probably not worth their while to appeal. If it was a suspension that would be a different story.

bhorn19 June 26, 2008 at 4:12 pm

you are, in fact, lame. No way MLB lifts and “slash” or lessens the fine, clearly.

debmc June 26, 2008 at 4:20 pm

As it appears the average age and IQ of many of the posters on this thread probably match, there’s no point in continuing.

And name calling really becomes you, bhorn. So proud of yourself you must be. :)

bhorn19 June 26, 2008 at 4:27 pm

just poking fun at your ridiculously worded explanation/rebuttal but thanks Yoda.

thingshappen June 26, 2008 at 4:42 pm

It is really about who is on first and what is on second, and i do-no is playing third. I think?

jamie June 26, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Heeyyy, sometimes MLB does the right thing.

Flushing_is_Burning June 26, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Only one game?? where is the justice?

mikescud June 26, 2008 at 3:26 pm

exactly. if a manager or player bumps an umpire, you’re looking at 5 games minimum. More like 10 if there’s any actual force behind it.

1 game for the ump seems light.

debmc June 26, 2008 at 3:28 pm

Yes it does, especially when combined with the fact that Beltran and Manuel were fined, as well. Still, I think the umpire’s suspension, for even one game, was more than many fans expected, and was somewhat surprising, considering that historically, an umpire practically has to shoot a player on the field to suffer any repercussions at all from MLB, lol.

thingshappen June 26, 2008 at 4:47 pm

Yea very light.

Actually for an ump to go this far it should be a heavy fine and suspension.

Just think of it if there was a tight race, and a close game and that happened?

And because he was the one that got it going that way i see no reason why a player or manager should have any fine.

SuicideWatch June 26, 2008 at 3:25 pm

Major League Baseball announced today that Umpire Brian Runge has been suspended for one game for his conduct, which included making contact with Manuel, during the incident. Runge’s suspension will be served immediately. Mike Port, Vice President of Umpiring for Major League Baseball, made the announcement.

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 3:37 pm

Statistical question.

for $200K, I give you a guy who hit 28 hrs in 350 ABs last year, avg. of .276, and an OBP of .410 and had 66 rbis. He can play first base, but prefers outfield. Would you take a flier on him over .250 avg 0 hrs in 350 ABs?

Mo Vaughns Nutritionist June 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm

no

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Mo. You know who I know. Come on. Just say it. You like those numbers? Correct?

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 3:45 pm

Barry would put this team on his once roided shoulders. None of the haters would be saying a word if he took us to the WS. You idiots that say he was a cheat had no problem cheering for Lo Duca, who was a cheat, or Mota (ok we had a problem with that) or Shownweiss, so why do you have a problem with Barry? He obviously doesn’t do it anymore, as he was tested 300x last year and he still nearly hit 30HRs.

You guys honestly think Delgado was never on the juice or HGH? Please.

marvelousmarv June 26, 2008 at 4:06 pm

Its a truth that a large % of players have juiced. Delgado may have himself. Its so many that you can’t pick and choose anymore who you want to hate so you either accept them all or none of them.

With Bonds you can make an exception! And No Not b/c of race or anything. He has two of the most coveted records in all of sports. Thats a big deal.

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Most home runs and most consecutive juicing season? Lol…

rogasm June 26, 2008 at 3:49 pm

I would.

dykstraw II June 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm

this. let’s get it done. it is INSANE that barry is not already in queens. and why isn’t anyone in the media writing about him?

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 3:43 pm

It’s called collusion.

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 3:48 pm

I’m just saying, those numbers, the Mets situation, the potential spin we could put on this? Charity? Maybe even like, everyone deserves a second chance?

Berbalerbs June 27, 2008 at 9:16 am

I have a “spin” the Mets front office can use…

“We’d like to occasionally score runs.”

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 3:43 pm

I’d love Barry Barry. Baseball been barry barry good to me.

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 3:45 pm

Again, I will say this as I have said in other posts, we are media drones. They spin Barry. They spun Willie, asking how could he have a job. We fire him. They spin it like, how can the Mets fire Willie like that. etc.

By the way, Marrion Barry was a Mayor in DC, publicly admitted smoking crack. We voted him in for a second term. What up??!!!

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 3:58 pm

Maybe you did, I don’t live in DC bud. We just vote in mayors who sexually harass children or take bribes for state contracts. Can you guess what state I’m from?

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 3:58 pm

I’m sorry, make that “abused,” not harass. This was gross.

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 4:03 pm

No, I’m not from DC. I meant “we” as people. You from CT?

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Very good!

MetsFan4Decades June 26, 2008 at 5:43 pm

No.

UnclePauly June 26, 2008 at 3:43 pm

EAT IT WILBON

LongJohnMaine June 26, 2008 at 3:56 pm

EAT IT WILBON YOU BUM

At least Kornheiser doesn’t really know much about baseball. Wilbon claims to be a huge Cubs fan. What an insanely idiotic rant from Wilbon yesterday.

ravi3 June 26, 2008 at 3:45 pm

unrelated, but MLB.com made some changes to gameday, and it looks really slick – full 3d views of everything

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 3:53 pm

MATT?? YOU THERE?? RUN A POLL. I want to know how many Mets fans would support signing a story like this…

For $200K, I give you a guy who hit 28 hrs in 350 ABs, avgeraged .276, had an OBP of .410 and smacked 66rbis, all last year. He can play first base, but prefers outfield and we the money would go to charity. Would you take a flier on him over an Andy Phillips type player who batted .250 avg 0 hrs in 350 ABs?

dykstraw II June 26, 2008 at 4:01 pm

seconded. let’s get barry out in the open here.

Knuckles99 June 26, 2008 at 4:05 pm

I think we need to have a Metsblog poll. Anonymous and completely unbiased. Clean.

ness589 June 26, 2008 at 3:53 pm

Bullplop!!! Runge gets a slap on the wrist. Why are Manuel and Beltran being fined when Runge instigated it?

TheBigStapler June 26, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Don’t look now but the Phillies are losing

Adam_Jones June 26, 2008 at 4:19 pm

I’ve been watching the whole game via gamecast at work… mostly because I’m bored, but also because I really want to pick up a half game going into this weekend. They lost 6 in a row before finally losing, we don’t want them to get on a streak any time soon as we know they’ll get on a winning streak and start hitting when they play us in a four game set. Never fails.

gradeck June 26, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Point of clarification:

A suspension is more severe than a fine. Runge loses one game’s salary as a result of the suspension.

Beltran and Manuel’s fines were — in all likelihood — less than what they would’ve lost by being suspended a game.

RPsJacket June 26, 2008 at 5:48 pm

They are down 5-0 now in 9th.

It is truly amazing that our beloved Mets have not been buried by now.

If only they had another LF or 1B – not both, just ONE, plus Church returning they could be in the thick of it by the end of July.

I can’t believe I’m typing this, but any word on Alou? I mean, he strained his calf. You could recover from an amputation in less time.

eddiekrules June 26, 2008 at 5:15 pm

I kind of look at the suspension of the Ump and only a fine to the players as embarrassing the umpire without really punishing him too much. Now Runge will be under the microscope each time an altercation arises. Perhaps MLB wants him to be so scrutinzied. I am guessing the fines will not hurt Manuel or Beltrans lifestyle significantly, but the suspension of the umpire seems unusual and will grab some attention. And it will certainly raise the eyebrows of the sports media the next time he is involved in something. I say well done MLB.

Wellideclare June 26, 2008 at 7:56 pm

did i just figure out how to do this…

Wellideclare June 26, 2008 at 8:27 pm

nice. what’s a URI? I’m not that computer savvy. Just moved to NJ, My dad is a die hard Met fan and he got me hooked. I entered into this season completely optimistic, knew nothing about 2006, so here I’ve been jobless, missing my peeps from FL, with just my crazy family and the Mets. Thanks Dad. thank goodness i got a job today, and thank goodness for the W. Sorry I’m off topic.

Reyes N Wright June 26, 2008 at 9:33 pm

When Harden is healthy he is one of the nastiest pitchers in baseball

Mr. Mets Butler June 26, 2008 at 10:58 pm

What a joke MLB is!

Beltran and Manuel get fined while Runge gets a day off to relax.

iluvbuckner June 27, 2008 at 1:12 am

Relax people. Manuel’s fine was $500, Beltran $400. They make that in 1 out…not even. Some of us make that in a week. But I digress.

DK June 26, 2008 at 4:06 pm

maybe Ollie Perez can get implanted.

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