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The Game:
The Mets (39-41) continue their three-game series against the Yankees (44-37) today at Shea Stadium, starting 1:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Luis Castillo
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- RF Ryan Church
- LF Endy Chavez
- C Brian Schneider
- P Oliver Perez
The Pitchers:
LHP Oliver Perez (5-5, 5.29 ERA) starts for the Mets.
RHP Darrell Rasner (4-5, 4.50 ERA) starts for the Yankees.
How To Catch It:
Today’s game can be seen locally on CW11 and nationally on TBS and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
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…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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Who was sent down for Church?
Nixon was placed on the DL with a strained groin.
Ha.
(rimshot)
Maybe this line up will become more regular, more consisten, more winning. Maybe. I’ll take Alou for even 20 ABs when he comes back.
C’mon Ryan! Mash it, Baby!
it’s a 4-game series, not 3
COME ON METS. Don’t let us down.
1st game was a make up for the rain out from the first series at a different stadium, so this is a three game series.
Agreed, the Mets swept the Yankees in the three game set in the Bronx and are trying to salvage the Sweep at Shea.
Great to see Church back
Here’s hoping Church comes back strong. Especially don’t want to see a career ending injury b/c of his concussions.
Any bets on what Ollie we’ll see today? We really need him to step up today. He pitched well against the Yanks at the stadium last month…..
I’m betting on Dr. Jekyll for 6 innings, with a cameo from Mr. Hyde to start the 7th.
That was damn impressive, by the way.
I wonder if this might be Perez’s last start as a Met?
This will be Perez’s last start as a Met if he has another one of his classic implosions. He looked great in the first, but does that really matter?
Sorry I didn’t realize I was posting under my name, I’m back here.
lol – maybe you should start ragging on Delgado again this game. It certainly worked for us on Friday – hahahaha.
Yankees have a horrible lineup in, Mets have a pretty good one. I just hope Perez continues his dominance against the Yanks. We need kinda need this win a lot more then the Yanks do.
is anyone else frustrated that delgado seems to do just enough not to get benched or released? his 9-RBI game was nice, but i’d rather have 3 3-RBI games in a week, and that also makes it even harder to bench or release him in the near future. plus, it kind of irks me that he’s in the Mets record books.
Luis didn’t get the job done, but the ump gave Rasner a foot outside. That better go both ways. I hate Shea Stadium. Our hitters get robbed of homeruns constantly by their own ballpark.
Can i know why delgado is in the 5 spot? I know church just came back but i really really hope this isn’t the norm. The guy had one good game, was 0-20 prior to that, and hasn’t had a hit since. Yet he deserves to hit 5th? Beltran didn’t even get close to a pitch to hit last AB.
Also castillo nice job not moving reyes over. Again it happens, 2 out of the 3 outs in the lineup are weak outs by castillo and delgado.
I hate this team so much.
Reyes on 2nd with no outs and I had 0 confidence that he would score.
I love the mets, I hate these 25 players
i like wright, church, castro, reyes, maine, pelfrey, duaner, joe smith, endy, and sometimes beltran…….
everyone else blows
Wow perez looking dominant out there. Dan warthen fixed perez in 10 minutes! Literally, just one bullpen session. Of course its not the 5th inning yet. well see
any bets today on how many times castillo decides to take two strikes before even bothering to swing at a pitch?
every at bat…….once again, my most hated mets player ever…..
One season he had like 540 at bats, and 17 rbi
Hey, John the Mets Fan . . . guess who’s batting in the number 2 spot again . . . ? (hehehehe)
Yes! At least he hustled down that line.
Yeah, but with the bases loaded and Castillo up, the best you can hope for is that he slaps it slow enough that he beats it out at first. It shouldn’t be that way.
Agreed. That’s why I said ‘At least’……
thank god he beat that out. i couldn’t take another bases loaded, no runs at bat.
I think Castillo’s leg fell off as he beat out that throw.
Rot row … a Molina sighting.
You know, we bust on Castillo a lot . Some of it is justified; some of it is just us needing a kicking dog to take our frustrations out on. But, in case no one has noticed, Castillo – even with all the games he’s missed – has 26 RBIs so far this season. That’s not too shabby.
I agree that most of the frusturation comes from the fact that we have him for four years, becuase, yea, he doesnt totally suck. I mean he is OBPing .358 and doing what he is supposed to do for the most part.
The problem is that he is going to be an absolute horror show for the final two years of his contract most likely.
nah hes a horror show NOW and is very lucky to have gotten the RBI…..
If we were to get 2-3 years of decent play from Luis, I would be very happy.
Wow – great start for Ollie. Now I gotta hold my breath through these next 3 innings or so…..
Don’t let that fool ya. Ollie is ALWAYS one pitch away from completely losing it.
gary just pointed out that delgado is 0-21 in the last week outside of his 9-rbi game on friday.
reverse jinx, baby!
lol – and it worked!
Off the scoreboard! Delgado – who would have thought????
So goes Delgado; so go the Mets.
It’s amazing. Delgado could still end up with 30 HRs.
Delgado does look old with that grey in his stubble. “No play for Mr. Grey.” Maybe if he used Just for Men on it, we would think he was over the hill?
. . . we would NOT think he’s over the hill.” Ugh. sorry.
Just a few weeks ago people were complaining that he was dying the goatee.
leave it to the yankees pitching to make delgado look good. i just don’t get why anybody would ever pitching him anywhere but inside. just pound him in and he’s absolutely hopeless.
again, like friday afternoon: if you think this is a sign of delgado being back, you’re just not paying attention. these are cookies down the middle from terrible pitchers
I know, your absolutely correct. I’d feed Delgado a heavy dose of inside fastballs only.
I hear ya…..
most pitchers the mets face are crap pitchers who throw cookies. seriously, is there anyone outside of hamels, hudson, rauch, lidge in the NL that you consider a great pitcher?
Peavey. Webb. Oswalt.
At least.
conclusion: when u fall behind on delgado, which is kinda rare cuz he swings at almost everything, and try to go after him in the strike zone, chances are it will get hit a long way…it also helps when you hang a slider or throw a 90mph fastball or less=) either way he crushed it, lets go mets!
Yeah but the NL is full of terrible pitchers, trying to be a little optimistic, but who knows he gets a little bit of his stroke back since we have to deal with him for the rest of the year. So he might not be such an automatic out every time.
Ollie takes a pretty good rip. Now, if he could only make contact.
Like I said, Ollie is ALWAYS one pitch away from implosion.
Mani, who is winning this contest? He’s got to get A-rod out here.
*Man
can we please get a rain delay before arod hits his home run?
nice K, ollie.
Ollie got him! A-Rod looked non too pleased.
rasner at 72 pitches through 3 – we might be able to get into the bullpen in the 5th. we need some hawkins home cookin’ to get the bats on track…
eh, the Yankees might just call up another middle reliever in the middle of the game. MLB let them get away with garbage roster moves all weekend, why not let them do it mid-game…
Are you saying that cause you’re rooting for the Yankees or do you really think the Mets can score against a bullpen?
Last I checked the Mets are horrible against every team’s bullpen.
well, before the 7th inning they have a chance to hit a bullpen…
OLLIE! Way to go after ‘em.
O.K, exhaling now….
Now the rain will take Perez right out of a dominant start. Yankee luck as always.
another way to look at is that it’ll take him out before his customary 5th/6th inning implosion.
Sorry all, my bad.
I turned on the game after other stuff just in time to see Ollie’s last pitch to strike out Damon… then came the hit. Sorry!
I wonder if Perez would be better if he just pitched from the full windup with someone on base… sure every baserunner will end up on third base, but if no one can drive him in its effective… ;)
C’mon Ollie keep it together, and keep doin’ what you’re doin’.
I’ll take the shutout, I could do without the 4.75 pitches per batter…
i think beltran needs some rest, maybe give him a day off…
not the least bit ironically its time to start looking at home/road splits for Beltran and Delgado again.
8 Ks for Ollie! There is just absolutely no way to predict what he’s gonna do on the mound.
And yeah, I know we haven’t got to the sixth inning yet, which is always telling….
It looks like Good Ollie, as opposed to Evil Ollie, showed up today.
Careful, his implosion usually occurs in the 5th or 6th, he’s through 5 fine, hopefully they call this game now.
Yeah, you’re right – you never know when Evil Ollie might show up.
This is why Ollie is going to get 4/40 this winter. Any chance we can trade him to the Red Sox right now?
Perez and Beltran for
Crisp, Youkalis, and Buckholz?
as awful as he is to watch most of the time, there’s not many pitchers i like watching more than oli when he’s on like this.
thats why its hard to give up on ollie, he has trememdous stuff. it seems that he throws harder when he does that little move forward before releasing the ball.
Delgado is on pace for 30 HR and 94 RBI, which is truly amazing (altho one HR was reversed so he’ll settle for 29-90)
That just doesn’t seem right after all we have seen this year. That comes out to a decent season. Maybe he could be moved as a DH?
Well, the .231 seems right.
.231 30-94 is great for a #7 hitter tho, so if we can get Church 5 and Alou 6, we’re in business as long as that lasts.
Maybe we ought to keep our mouths shut and let him put up those numbers. I bet you that the numbers are even better if we account for the very slow start he got off to.
nah — in the last 28 days he is hitting 235 with good power too. He’s been consistently missing too many pitches because his timing is gone, but his power is not.
if your only criteria for judging a player is homeruns and rbis, then sure, delgado is fine. unfortunately I don’t ignore obp, slugging, defense
(delgado is terrible)
. . . and your solution is?
i didn’t say get rid of him; I understand he’s gotta play. i’m just saying we shouldn’t be trying to trick ourselves into thinking he’s good at baseball
Nope, no one said that. His .231 BA was plenty argument against that.
while you have good points, I think we accepted that we werent going to get those things from Delgado this year, and the fact that he is on pace to equal last years production is a good sign that he isnt getting worse.
They didnt address other positions, so having Delgado be as bad as last year is hurting the team. But that isnt Delgado’s fault, its Omars…
right, and he should be batting 7th if Alou can somehow stay on the field.
Reyes
Castillo
Wright
Beltran
Church
Alou
Delgado
Castro
A little slow 6-8 but powerful
Did anyone notice that Ollie hasn’t hopped over the foul line after 3rd out? Someone finally got in his head to concentrate and stop being so childish (tho I loved the hop, it didn’t work for his immature personality)
Call this game! It’s a monsoon out there! Implosion is pending…
Agreed! hurry crew chief!
Everybody clap your hands!
Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch
Let’s Go!
Here we go – Ollie’s infamous 6th inning….
Reverse psychology!!! There are reports that Evil Ollie just got out of his limousine at Shea.
We’re in trouble here. 4-2 Yankees after the 6th, Ollie will blame it on the weather after the game.
Tsk tsk.
Looks to be O-Perez’s best game thus far, ya think?
The score is still too tight for my comfort, and will undoubtedly be decided by our bullpen, oh boy.
Heilman has always scared me, however, he has been doing well lately; yet, I believe most of his recent appearances have come when the score wasn’t too close, right?
Cmon Mets.
That start of his at the stadium – they won 11-2. I believe Ollie pitched at least 7 innings in that game, if not into the 8th. Of course it’s much easier to pitch when you’ve got a bunch of runs for your team on the board.
So, so far, pitching in this tight ball game, this is a very good start for him.
Perez went 7 2/3 on 109 pitches that day. The Yankees were swinging at everything later in that game.
But he was excellent that day as well.
what’s the name of those comfy looking seats at Shea?
They are called the dreamseats www. dreamseats .com
Egh sorry, I think thats just a scalper page. Sorry about that. http://www.dreamseat.com is the actual seat company.
Implosion begins.
Bite your tongue.
We should trade Oliver Perez to the Red Sox or Rays. They can use his Yankee-killing skills.
Ollie for Matt Garza?
Whoa. Ollie battled back from 3-1, good Ollie?
WOW. Get the bullpen up!
Are you guys aware that we have stranded 13 friggin’ runners?
In a normal universe the score would be at least 6-0.
WTFFFF!!
Getting interesting here…
Come on, he’s gotta get Jeter here.
Ollie is getting hit hard right now, this game is about to be 2-2.
6 – that’s right, count them, SIX, scoreless innings for Perez.
Who would have thought….
Awesome stuff, Perez is done though. Someone must come out for the 7th. I know ARod is 0-10 against Ollie, but not after Ollie’s thrown 90 pitches. Turn it over to the bullpen, otherwise this game could be 2-1 with one swing of the bat.
Any way he can go eight? I don’t think a PC of 125 should be such a big deal.
Unless we score big, I want him out there as long as possible.
I’m with you, let him go 8 if he can avoid a jam and doesnt go over 120 pitches by too many.
I’d ask if they should PH for Perez here, but Perez is probably a better hitter than anyone on the bench today… ;)
Today is shaping-up to be a game that will be concluded with the bullpen. Furthermore, what a great time it should hopefully for Jerry Manuel’s new motto on in-game pitching-changes.
The action Manuel has with his starting pitcher handing-off the game ball to whomever the relief pitcher is to meet-n-greet everyone on the mound.
Thus far, I’d love for O-Perez to look the bullpen relief pitcher straight in their eyes, and basically offer a genuine threat of how they better close this game out in winning fashion!
Let’s Go!
yea they arent feeling enough pressure already. Lets add a little more for no reason.
Way to make him work, Ollie – get that pitch count up – lol.
I know a lot of people are upset with Ollie and I am too, BUT I think we should hold him for the year and not get what we can for him now. The value of him this year is probably equal to the value we get for him in years ahead.
I think we all agree he is immature and, well, not bright. When things are going well he gets cocky and throws sidearm, or tries a new pitch — he’s that kid when you were younger that just never got it. So I think in huge games he doesn’t lose focus, he amps up. I know you say: how can you not be amped up for a Thursday game in Milwaukee or St Louis, but he just doesn’t. He’s been pitching his whole life, we can’t understand that he takes it for granted. But big games he focuses.
This is why I want him to stick around for the year as our 4th starter. I don’t think his inconsistency will determine our postseason odds, so if we do make it Ollie pitches Game 4 and Game 7 is it lines up right, and he could be the Jeff Suppan of the rotation. Then we let him walk to a team that overpays for his postseason peformance.
That’s my hope anyway.
Yeah, I’m not quite ready to give up on Ollie yet.
And he will be a Type A free agent and they will get two draft picks for losing him.
Given the last draft, I’d like to see them draft more higher developed players like Davis and Havens.
blow it open here
Nice. They need more runs. Got one there. Now Beltran needs to do something here.
Nice to get the 3rd run, but still too tight for comfort. Still too many runners LOB — 10 today.
Hey, when O-Perez pitches like he currently is pitching against the NY Yankees, than I gotta believe he has 100-percent of potential to pitch this way more frequently.
Consistency and Simplicity.
Let’s Go!
I don’t think Ollie knows the meaning of the word ‘consistency’….
Oops – where’s the bullpen.
We lost. That’s the Mets team we are know. I’m so sick of this. No way we win this, absolutely no way.
I still think we can pull this out. Yeah, as usual, left a ton of guys on base, wasted a lot of scoring opportunities. But no way should they let this effort by Perez get away.
Apparently there was a way. That way, of course, was that the Yankees really aren’t that good these days…
Uhhh, JUST when ya think our pitching staff would give the “home-run slappy-happy” pitches away — they throw one in there to be hit over the wall, Yikes!
At least it was a SOLO SHOT huh??!!!
Reyes needs to calm down out there. Good think he’s not a pitcher. With his personality, he’d never would last.
I still think Ollie can get this last out here.
And as I’m typing this, he does…..Way to keep his focus with that error behind him and the HR he gave up.
*thing
Would you want O-Perez to remaining pitching until it’s – Enter Sandman time???
Jeter will take Wags deep in the ninth to give the Yanks the lead. Abreu, Giambi and Cano lingering on that bench to participate in a Yankees win. Just watch and see.
heilman needs work then go to billy but i would rather have a 3 run lead instead of 2
We need some runs this inning. Then put Perez out for the 8th. If he puts anyone on, pull him.
where’s that porch in right field when we need it?
hopefully atlanta and florida will lose here in a few minutes. if the mets can only hold on they can pick up something at the very least.
DOH! Buzz Kill with the DP, cmon.
They better win this game!
keith is getting slap happy, just in time for a long road trip
hanley ramirez homered to tie the game, damn fish dont like getting hooked
haha horrible wordplay
Lost power here for the top of the 8th – bad storm. Just got it back. Feliciano got them out 1-2-3? I don’t see any additional runs on the board for the Yanks….
yeah, 1-2-3, to fly outs to left field (giambi PH swung at first pitch) and struck out damon looking
Thanks. Where’s that battery operated radio when I need it???
oh boy, here we go
If Wagner blows this.
I’ll do something.
Well, that isn’t good.
the good thing is that they couldn’t catch up to perez’s fastball so hopefully wagner can place his fastball
but of course…
Come on, Billy. One more.
Whew! Put it in the books.
Props to Ollie for that pitching performance today.
Put it in the books…..Th-E-e-E-e-E-e-E Yankees lose!
i was nervous all game long, but im glad thats in the books. 2-2 vs the yanks- ill take it
4-2 vs the yanks overall- ill definitly take it
who the heck was that pitching for the Mets today? i thought Oliver Perez was supposed to start :o…4-2 on the season against the yankees, i’ll take that :)
perez next start is at philly, he should be ok against those lefties hitters, I hope he goes on a good streak now..btw church had two hits, he is amazing, if we could only have alou stay healthy for the rest of the year….
except that about 4 of those balls probably get out of the park in Philly. I’m not criticizing perez’s start. I thought it was great. just trying to blow fastballs by hitters worked in a pitcher friendly park. I’m not sure it will work in Philly.
just get him enough runs and we’ll be good…i hope
so we are stuck with Perez for a few more starts!!!
Seriously though it does seem like he is a big game pitcher with zero concentration or the lesser games.
A cracking game to watch from over here in Ireland.
Let’s go Mets
Love the win but it still was an awful offensive performance by the Mets. Should’ve won this game at least 5-1 with the amount of chances they had.
Perez lives to fight another day!
Good Boy, Ollie, Good Boy!
Seriously, the man pitched his very best game of the season. Maybe he gets on a roll, and we can stop cursing his name.
I like what Billy said after the game- “All Ollie has to do to get consistent is to pretend that everyone is wearing a Yankee uniform!” (or a Braves uniform for that matter.)
Let’s rock St. Louie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao that’s right Wagner
Maybe Dan Wartham knows a little something other than the theoretical pyramids Peterson threw at Perez.
Let’s not get all crazy over Perez performance, this is what he does vs. the Yanks.
Hopefully he can channel some of this into the Philly series.
I don’t know, we all know he does well against the yanks but there were obvious changes with Ollie today. Hope is alive for him
NOTE TO JOHAN SANTANA…
Sometimes you have to will a game with only 2-3 tuns of support. See Perez’s start today.
The only person NOT doing his job on this team is JOHAN SANTANA!!
**runs
yes!!!!, you are totally right, a 3.00 ERA is horrrible, just stfu!!!
That is just WRONG.
Hey, Knucklehead!
When was the last time the Mets stake J-San to a 3-0 lead?
the yes network is killing reyes for his reactions on the field… they are even saying that the mets may trade him because hes selffish and a low-paying contract… lol
hahaha – what a crock.
Don’t know how Manual feels personally, but he didn’t have anything to say about Reyes on the post game. He just said, that’s gonna happen, you’re gonna get errors now and then. Didn’t even remotely address Reyes’ apparent temper tantrum out there.
I’m not in the habit of watching the Yankees televison network after Mets games, but if they WERE knocking on Reyes, they have every right to. He’s immature and starting to become really overrated, wasting his talents. And HE has been very selfish, for over a year now. He should learn to stop dancing salsa and learn not swing at first pitches and hit the ball to the ground more…..
dude, every day, every time you post, its a knock on someone involved with the mets…what the f is your problem? does everything always have such a negative lining with you?
did he not have two hits today?
This is the most overblown horse crap ever.
Paul O’Neill throws tantrums left and right and he is the “warrior”.
Reyes was pissed he let a throw sail. F’ing GOOD, and he showed it, as opposed to tapping his chest like a dolt and mouthing my bad as if no one knew it was.
For over a year I have listened to Mets fans whine about fire, and the only one who appears to give a rats arse about staying in a game, making the plays and trying to make things happen on the field is Reyes.
Everyone else you get the same crap blabber blabber about “hopefully we can get rolling”, “today was tough” blah blah blah.
Reyes expects to make that play, knew he should have made the play, and showed a sense of bitterness and anger for failing. FREAKING GREAT, now if 24 other guys could have one tenth of his passion we might have something going.
Wow, Patrick sometimes I hate what you right, but d*mn man, you are so right on there!
Reyes certainly wears his heart on his sleeve, and oh yeah, he is up there in several league leading categories, and right now is our only guy (besides dizzy Church) who is near .300.
Heck yeah.
right = write, of course.
Listening to Ollie’s comments on the Post game. They keep asking him why he was so good today, what was different? He kept responding that today was the real me, those other times he had problems he was ‘trying to be a different pitcher’.
So from now on, we want the REAL Ollie on the mound – lol !
i didnt hear it, but did it sound like it was a knock on peterson? or just ollie being ollie?
No better way than to conclude a 4-game series with a “W.”
Consistency and Simplicity.
Not much time has to elapse before the NY Mets are once again tested on whether or not this will be the series when they begin heading towards the consistency and simplicity highway.
And, why not offer another 4-game series to truly test this team!
NOTE: I’m starting to sense that the Phillies are focusing-in on creeping their heads more-and-more to the side, which has them barely being able to see the Mets; furthermore, these pre-All-Star games should tell us whether or not the Phillies’ heads have remained staring towards the side; if their heads have in-fact moved, however, the direction is back to looking straight-ahead with all other teams looking-up at them; or the Phillies’ heads could pleasantly be looking behind them as the New York Mets stare right into their eyes, focused, determined, consistent, and ready to fight!
Let’s Go!
yes!!!…..lets go mets!!!
Was it just me, or did anyone notice how Ollie wasn’t doing his over dramatic, superstitious hop over the lines today? Hrmm….
Trade Ollie and Delgado to the AL NOW, IMMEDIATELY!!! Their value may never be higher than today. How many Boras clients in the Yankees’ lineup got wristwatches for tanking it today?
Do you really think that is how other GMs view this?
Worked for Carlos Beltran.
No, I’m not seriously saying their value will be down tomorrow morning, but I honestly think a GM watching today might think, “hey, this guy could give me a solid start or two down the stretch — especially against the Yanks.” As for Delgado, I’m sure AL GMs are thinking he could be a potentially valuable LH bat to add to the equation. Don’t think this weekend didn’t enhance their value.
hopefully ollie is an idiot so they can just say. “this is a really imporant game” he seems to always do well in those situtations
Here is the thing, Rick Peterson is a really interesting guy and in many ways a great pitching coach in that he achieved results, problem is, many of his results cases were short lived, one year wonders because the league would adjust and in some cases the pitcher, Perez in this instance would abandon a lot of what makes him successful.
Peterson’s problem was a one size fits all approach, and is not the way you can work with a pitching staff. Your are not in the business of making clones but getting the best out of each individual.
That is where Peterson failed.
I agree completely.
He’s like pitching sabermetrics personified.
And in his second at bat, if he doesn’t have the best eye of any Met, the best bat control of any Met, and hustle harder out of the box than any Met, we don’t score our first run… so it cuts both ways. The guy is who he is.