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In a post to Dugout Central, Jeff Moore uses mathematics to determine that Mets-Phillies is the second-best rivalry in baseball, behind Yankees-Red Sox.
According to Moore, “The dislike between the teams has been well documented, but has only played out in the media thus far. One misplaced fastball could easily change that. The Phillies are currently in first place and the Mets should be closer than they are. Both have been in the playoffs 
recently, and no one in either clubhouse is too fond of Mets closer Billy Wagner. Add it up, and you get a powder keg ready to explode.”
The Mets will travel to Philadelphia for a four-game series against the Phillies starting tomorrow.
Johan Santana will start for the Mets on Friday, followed by John Maine on Saturday, Oliver Perez on Sunday and Pedro Martinez on Monday.
This is a significant series, in that it will do a lot to shape the way management, the fans and media view the Mets as we all turn the corner from the All-Star break towards the Trade Deadline.
In reality, even if the Mets drop three of four in Philadelphia, they’ll be just six losses back of the Phillies, which, with 73 games left in the season, is hardly insurmountable – just ask the Phillies.
However, with three weeks until the trade deadline, six losses back of first place and probably eight or nine losses back of the Wild Card, it is a totally different story.
By the way, a reader from MetsBlog, Richard M, is organizing a tailgate for Sunday at Citenz’s Bank Park for Mets fans starting at 10:30 am in Lot N, if you’re interested.
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If this team stays true to form, they will win 2 games rather convincingly, and lose the other 2 in either heartbreaking or lethargic fashion. In the end, it’ll be a split. .500
Watch Santana get rocked with the offense putting up 8. Just the way things are working for this club.
Oh yeah, optimism — three out of four. Go Mets.
That’s exactly whats going to happen…in fact, in order for this team to get on a “roll” we really need to stop playing these 4 game series. We need to concentrate on 2 out of 3, thats doable, and if we put together a bunch of “2 out of 3″ series in a row we will find ourselves above .500. These 4 game series are killing us - we are a .500 club so we are going to split these almost every time.
Let’s hope for a sweep, and settle for 3 out of 4.
But, we have to win tonight. Go Big Pelf.
Prediction:
We win tonight, take 3 of 4 from the Phillies then go on to lose 5 straight.
ugh. i wouldn’t be surprised at all.
LGM !!!
On a sidenote, has anyone seen the stars and stripes caps? Theyre sweet I got one, the mets will where em tommorow..
“In reality, even if the Mets drop three of four in Philadelphia, they’ll be just six losses back of the Phillies, which, with 73 games left in the season, is hardly insurmountable – just ask the Phillies.”
This is the “we’ll get them tomorrow mentality” that this team has been adhering to for the past one and a half years. How can you say that? When does this team have to show life to actually be considered a contender and not just lucky to have the other teams in the division sucking?
Pathetic!
He isn’t a part of the team.
exactly, even the fans are thinking the same way now
If that was the case then there wouldn’t be as many people reigning Shea with boos every home stand.
very true
If it was all mind over matter the team I am sure would have thought up a nice 20 game winning streak right now.
When does the team have to show life to be considered a contender? when the Phillies show life that can actually win the division without it handed to them. The longer the Phillies continue to suck, the longer the Mets have to figure out how to have this life we all talk about.
What else is there but ‘We will get them tomorrow”? We probably won’t catch them? That’s worse. We should’ve gotten them today? useless information and excuse making.
Btw, I don’t see this posted anywhere, but Prior to tonight’s game, the Mets selected (love the tenses on this quote) Reyes and Aguilla (#4 and #29) and DL’d Castillo while demoting Muniz.
Sounds like a real bs article…….. mathmetics to prove the teams dislike one another ? 2+2=4 means the mets & phils hate one another ? The Phils dislike Billy b/c he put them down after leaving the team. pretty simple
Any tailgates planned for the July 4th game?
I’m going to July 4th.
Darn I want a Metsblog meetup.
I’m sad now its Sunday =(
Lot K is a better tailgate lot. Plus its where all the drunken Phillies fans go. Good Access to 95 and its between Citzen’s Bank and Lincoln Financial.
btw, does anybody think that 3 of 4 from the phillies is possible? and if it does happen that the mets are going to be better throughout the rest of the season because of it or just delay the inevitable?
I’ll be in Philly for Friday and Saturday, and while I was looking forward to Santana/Hamels (which Santana won the last time they faced off) - I will gladly take not having to face Hamels…. and yes, I truly believe the Mets can take 3 of 4. They will win the first 3 then lose on Monday when Petey is on the hill.
However, the Mets haven’t done very well in 4 game series’ though. Going into tonight’s game they are 7-16 in games in which they play during a 4 game series.
2 game series - 3-6
3 game series - 31-21
so basically, for the rest of the season, we need them to play 3 game series made up of all day games (so Delgado can hit). Come on MLB, make it happen…
If you were a real fan you would climb on top of Shea Stadium and take down all the light towers.
I think we need to worry about one game at a time.
Let’s get through tonight with Big Pelf throwing strikes and in control.
Jetro is a good lot to. It’s usually 90% Philly but it’s fun to piss them off and they got some hot girls and good food. Besides that Philly sucks Go Mets we need this series!!!!!!
Nothing would please me more than for the Mets to win tonight and take 3 out of 4 from the Phillies this weekend. I know that there’s still a lot of games to be played, but based on this team’s make-up and what they’ve accomplished so far this year, it appears that they’re nothing more than a .500 caliber team. Even with the National League East in a weakened state, they can’t muster a decent winning steak. I hope they prove me wrong and turn things around.
If Pelf has another decent start tonight, does that make him our Number 3 starter hands down?
By the way, a reader from MetsBlog, Richard M, is organizing a tailgate for Sunday at Citenz’s Bank Park for Mets fans starting at 10:30 am in Lot N, if you’re interested.
You misspelled “wake.”
lol
“no one in either clubhouse is too fond of Mets closer Billy Wagner.”
WTF???
“Jeff Moore uses mathematics to determine that Mets-Phillies is the second-best rivalry in baseball, behind Yankees-Red Sox.”
He needs to check his math. Mets-Phillies is like an M’s-Rays rivalry compared to the Cubs-Cardinals rivalry (which can be argued is better than Yankees-Red Sox).
I’m going to be there tomorrow with a sign.
Gangstas on the Field, Phillies on the Bus.
Maybe.
Too bad no Mets meet up on Friday =[
i am going sunday. who is pitching sunday by the way?
Maine vs Jamie Moyer
Oops, My bad.. lol. Thats Saturdays. Sunday is Ollie and Kyle Kendrick
Are you tailgating on sunday? 10:30 Lot N…Should be alot of fun…got some good shirts made up, hope to see you there
Love the sign, I’ll have to look for it tomorrow!
This is from Adam Rubin’s blog:
Mets moves: Castillo to DL, Muniz sent down
Two roster moves are coming before today’s game, Surfing the Mets has learned.
Luis Castillo will be placed on the disabled list with a strained left hip flexor, in addition to Carlos Muniz being demoted to New Orleans.
Outfielder Chris Aguila and second baseman Argenis Reyes are scheduled to arrive from the Zephyrs.
Aguila, a former Marlin, had one previous stint with the Mets.
Reyes, 25, hit .290 with New Orleans. The switch-hitter was signed as a minor-league free agent out of the Indians organization.
Happy News Finally going to DL….
Ya know, the guy they are replacing him with on the roster had a lower OPS in AAA than Castillo had in the majors.
Yes, but he is young, and not broken down…
right and my point being Castillo with all his short comings likely will out perform anything Reyes does, the only good thing that came from this was the non recall of Nunez.
This notion of the Mets fighting the Phillies by the way, is pretty silly.
The Mets are more likely to start fighting each other or help some Phillies beat each other up.
Pretty sad if the non-existent Mets-Phillies rivalry is currently the 2nd hottest one in baseball. A team has to give a damn to be in a rivalry. Even if they stink, giving a damn is a must. The Mets don’t give a damn. Watching Mets games for the past couple years, win or loss, has been just a repeat of seeing them take the field against a hungrier team.