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In an ‘exclusive’ report for the New York Post, Bart Hubbuch details a recent ‘confrontation’ between Keith Hernandez and Jose Reyes while in St. Louis.
According to Hubbuch, citing ‘one player,’ Reyes and Hernandez were close to exchanging punches on the team charter until others stepped in.
…well, you know what, i’m proud of keith for speaking his mind on air, and i’m glad to see reyes sticking up for himself…
…they had a heated argument, or ‘confrontation,’ or whatever they want to call it, they did not come to blows, and so they argued it out like men and now let’s move on…
…i understand this is a sensationalistic, exciting story for people to talk about in print, on blogs and on radio, but, the fact is, this isn’t a tea party…none of these people are required to be friends…they’re only requirement is to do their job, be it on air or on the field…so, it’s hard for me to 
really care about this topic…
…i mean, two jocks got in to an argument because one called the other a name…wow…imagine that…what a shocker…
…that said, i am so sick and tired of wasting time writing about who should be fired, who shouldn’t, front-office deception, fights between players and broadcasters, possible clubhouse division, eighth-inning sing-a-longs, home run apples, and every other off-field soap opera that has been forced upon me through the text-media this season…it’s ridiculous…
In case you are interested, there is a real-live baseball game being played tonight in Philadelphia between the third-place Mets and the first-place Phillies at 7:05 pm.
…you remember baseball, right, it’s the game with the white ball, the bats and gloves…i hear it’s a whole lot of fun…
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Sorry, I have to vent but I was just watching Mike and Mike on ESPN and they were interviewing Steve Phillips. He actually had the audacity to say, in reference to teams trading away talent in panic mode to make the playoffs, that the Mets “organization” did that when “they” traded away Scott Kazir for an “aging” Victor Zambrano….are you f&*king serious!?!?!?!?!?
GOD how I HATE that man….
Don’t understand your comment. Phillips was not the GM when they traded away Kazmir. Duquette was.
Aww… I think it’s cute that you Muts fans still have team spirit.
But let’s recall some fun facts — the highest paid pitcher in the MLB is 7-7, and curiously enough a Met. The 3rd highest payroll has bought you a sub 500 record. And now you are playing the very team you rolled over for last year. Doesn’t that memory still haunt you at night? Well I loved it.
Good luck with these next four games. I know, if you attend the game, you aren’t expecting a win, so at least stay for the fire works.
GO PHILS!
Wow, trolling on Metsblog huh? You’re a winner!!
Last I checked we’ve taken 4 of 6 from you this year! And you’ve only one 6 of your last 15 games!
Boston series…lost.
Angels series…lost.
Oakland series…lost.
Texas series…lost.
Atlanta…sweep (not bad but does it really matter?)
See the pattern? We’re back in the race and the mear fact that you’re here shows us Phillies fans are worried!!!
“….and the mear fact that you’re here shows us Phillies fans are worried!!!”
nah, we’re here for the comedy/drama.
And because you’re team can only beat a team that has no starting pitching and just sent their starting RF to Double A.
In the spirit of our fine nation on this celebration of our independence, please have a wonderful day and enjoy America’s favorite passtime.
(Yes, even a jerk like you is allowed to express your opinion today. It is the American way)
Hey, Mets’ fans attacked my site, so I return the favor. Just remember that we’re still on top.
Which site is your site?
I promise I will only write nice things — heck, I am going to Philly this weekend, and I look forward to truly enjoying what I hear is a beautiful ballpark. And some Mets wins, of course…
And that means? You don’t see Cerrone hoping from site to site trying to “defend” erratic posters like yourself. But then again, that’s why he has the largest Mets fan based site in the world and now works with SNY…where as, I have no idea who you are, nor do I care.
Stay classy Philly!
Really, this is what you’ve chosen to do today? This?
GregB
My point is that Keith could’ve simply defused the issue on the telecast by simply acknowledging Reyes’ frustration with himself. He chose to call him a baby instead… During the YES broadcast of that game David Cone was all over Reyes as well. When Cone was with the Mets there was a play during which he argued with an ump at first base without calling timeout, while runners for the opposing team flew around the bases and scored. I am perfectly happy to cut Keith and Ron and David Cone…former Mets…some slack but I’d like to see them get off their high horses.
Imagine if Reyes had done this:
Concerning Ron Darling: “On July 19, he and teammates Bob Ojeda, Rick Aguilera and Tim Teufel were arrested outside a bar in Houston, Texas for fighting with security guards (who were also off-duty police officers). All four were released in time for the following game and the worst results were $200 fines but the incident fed into the Mets’ reputation as a rowdy crew that season.”
Actually keith said the Mets should stop babying Jose. He did not call him a baby.
Didn’t Keith say something to the effect that the Mets need to stop babying Jose? If so, that’s the same thing as calling him a baby.
No. It’s a knock on the Mets more than it is on Reyes.
I agree that something should be said to Reyes but I believe it is an announcers job to announce not lecture players. And I love Keith but he shouldn’t be talking about discipline.
Also, if Matt is so sick of writing about these topics he should just not write about them. I’m guessing it isn’t just the print media - as he points out - pushing these topics. Most of this talk is fueled by sites like this. And I love metsblog.com.
Oh, and Rollins is just 8th in Win Shares this year. Jose is ahead of him too.
And Wright is the third best at 3rd in the NL right now in Win Shares, behind only Chipper and Ramirez. If Chipper can’t attend the All-Star game, Wright deserves the nod.
he should be there anyway - his numbers are better than ramirez’s, and he plays at shea, not wrigley
Win Shares is park adjusted. So Ramirez gets no advantage because he plays at Wrigley. However, Wright is ahead of Ramirez in many offensive and defensive categories so a good case can be made that he should be on the all-star squad regardless.
by the way, i know that was rehashed time and again when the trade happened and it’s still early for their careers, but i am really glad right now that we kept pelfrey and somehow handed minnesota humber and mulvey. guerra still has time to be good, but is a ways away while humber looks like a flat out bust. mulvey won’t ever be anything special.
gotta love the big pelf, now if f-mart can get it going for a while…
Jose Reyes is a great shortstop, but has shown little growth as a player or as a person. That’s just the truth. He is what he is, and we should be happy with that but, but I no longer expect more from him. I just hope he’s working enough to maintain.
i agree with you, but it’s not hard to envision him maturing in these next few years. i hate to say it, but rollins came in with a bang, fizzled for a few and then had better years in his late 20’s. while jose has been superior to rollins’ early career, i wouldn’t mind seeing a similar boost as he hits him prime.
it’s odd and we hammer him at times, but the guy just turned 25. he gives us reason to complain and to often expect more, but just think that in 4 years, when f-mart is 23, maine is 30, johan is 33, jose will only be 29
Shown little growth as a player? Do you remember his on-base % a few years back? His pitch recognition? This guy is putting up Honus Wagner type numbers and we’re resigned to it?
“that said, i am so sick and tired of wasting time writing about who should be fired, who shouldn’t, front-office deception, fights between players and broadcasters, possible clubhouse division, eighth-inning sing-a-longs, home run apples, and every other off-field soap opera that has been forced upon me through the text-media this season…it’s ridiculous…”
Couldn’t have said it better myself…. amen my brother
funny right now tbs is playing the keith hernandez episodes
I really dislike Ron Darling and Keith on SNY. They were good players, but they show a surprising lack of understanding of baseball sometimes. Keith is overly focused on RBIs as an indicator of success and Ron Darling is constantly dismissing statistical analysis and modern theory. If one reads the transcripts instead of listening, its hard to tell when its Ron Darling speaking and when its Ralph Kiner.
Ron Darling is a less pompous Joe Morgan. Which is good because Keith more then compensates.
Tragedy is when age defeats youth; comedy is when youth triumphs.
Hernandez (cocaine and dog knows what else) and Darling (defaulting on his Yales loans while earning $1M) were triumphant comedy that culminated in 1986, along with the rest who put the middle finger up to authority.
I’ll take Jose’s comedy any day over the old scolds. Just kudos to the Mets organization for a long history of contraianism (Kiner’s Korner featured the winners so we got to know all NL players; McCarver and Davey Johnson going at it, etc.—can you imagine the Evil Bronxian Empire ever doing this?)
I’ll take the Jose/Keith thing as a positive omen.
Reyes is a baby and people who are baby’s do not become perennial all-stars, let alone hall of famers.
“Comment by anrst
2008-07-04 18:18:18
Reyes is a baby and people who are baby’s do not become perennial all-stars, let alone hall of famers.”
Oh…OK. I guess you better dig up Mickey Mantle (alcoholism, voyeurism, etc.), Ty Cobb (racism, furious temper), and Babe Ruth (alcoholism, hedonism, gluttony) and let them know they’re out of the HOF.
…so you’re putting Ty Cobb, Mantle and Ruth in the same breath as Reyes … right … anyway, racism, hedonism, rage, alcoholism, whatever, that stuff may be self destructive but it doesn’t make you a cry baby… There are no pouty sulking cry babys in the hall …
Matt, and everybody– just want to point out that if this team was, say, 50-37, we wouldn’t be picking away at any of these scabs. Look at us, and all these stupid arguments, finger-pointing, and name-calling amongst us.
Of course, there are some who think that the internet’s purpose is specifically for uncalled-for verbal abuse and provocation. And there are some of those on this board.
But I think if Mets fans were in a happier place in general, and not getting whiplashed with frustration every day none of what Matt called “and every other off-field soap opera that has been forced upon me through the text-media this season” would matter. It probably wouldn’t be there, because the media would winning to write about, instead of all this nonsense to inflate into the crisis du jour.
Keith’s right. Keep on keepin’ it real moustache man.
thank you.
The double standard is part of what irks me, too.
Yess! and unlike Daryl Strawberry who missed a punch because he couldn’t hit lefties its Reyes best side.
“Boom, a nice level swing,I like that.”