Comments on: Note: Wagner’s Blown Save

By: Bobby Bones in SC

Bobby Bones in SC — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:34:07 +0000

Yes. That is the reason I want him to get straightened out. He still has good stuff, it just seems like he hasn’t used it right.

Here is the good news though. Wags has blown 6 save opportunities. The Mets have won 3 of those games.

Rivera has lost three games this year. I doubt the Yankess are putting him on a bus out of town. Okay, that is unfair statement. Big difference between Wags and Rivera.

By: grotesmask

grotesmask — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:25:51 +0000

Considering some of the game’s greatest closers, including Fingers, Sutter, and Gossage have had 13 and 14-blown save seasons, Billyboy ain’t all that bad.

By: LongJohnMaine

LongJohnMaine — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:08:28 +0000

Rivera, K-Rod, Papelbon, Nathan, Jenks, Putz (Morrow too – check his numbers out – this guy is gonna be twice the pitcher Joba is), Saito, Lidge (he bounced back and I didn’t think he would, I have to hand it to him, even though he is a Philthie), Soria (flat out stud), BJ Ryan, F. Cordero, Hoffman (barely)…think that’s it

OK, a little short, if you count Putz and Morrow as one closer (since they’re on the same team), 12 guys. I overestimated a little because I forgot how many bums teams employ as their closers (Todd Jones). Still, Wagner inspires no confidence in me, and again, if the Mets somehow got him to waive his no trade clause and were able to get a good (I stress the word good, because as much as I am down on him, I wouldn’t give him away for nothing) package for him, I would make that trade.

By: grotesmask

grotesmask — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:05:41 +0000

Yeah, conveniently overlook the fact that his saves helped get us as far as we did in ‘06!

By: zer09

zer09 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:54:11 +0000

I think you’re stretching it with 15.
I can think of may be 4. Who else you got?

By: LongJohnMaine

LongJohnMaine — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:39:14 +0000

I don’t think you’re overstating it at all. He is the best “bad closer” in baseball. If he does his job in Game 2 and gets freaking So Taguchi out (So Taguchi!!), the Mets beat the Cardinals in 6. Instead, our $43 million dollar man choked (again!!) and gave up a gopher ball to a 37 year old bench player, and the rest was history.

By: LongJohnMaine

LongJohnMaine — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:34:55 +0000

He made a fielding error – not a bad pitch to Utley. Besides, other than the Arizona game, and one game earlier in the season (can’t remember who it was against, maybe Florida) – Duaner has been great all year. That’s a lot more than I can say for our $43 million dollar joke of a closer, who can’t strand an inherited runner if his life depended upon it, or get a four out save if need be (I think he has one all year).

In all seriousness there are probably 15 closers I’d take before Wagner based on skill-set alone, more if salary was factored in.

By: almar1965

almar1965 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:31:49 +0000

This team is not winning a championship with him on the mound. I think that is the deep down truth that most of us Mets fans might be unwilling to recognize. He is just as un-clutch a reliever as their is.

Maybe I am overstating it, maybe I am wrong, but perception is what it is and it is based on 3 seasons of him pissing his pants at the worst times.

By: zer09

zer09 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:26:09 +0000

You usually like closers to be able to throw top heat and close out the game. Sanchez would’ve blown it yesterday in the 8th – the rain saved his @ss…

By: zer09

zer09 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:25:08 +0000

Reyes does have the best overall numbers, but Guzman is a deserving AS and there’s no one else you can send from the Nats – and I believe the rule is, someone’s gotta go from every team – that’s why Reyes is being snubbed.

And Wright does deserve it – he’s in the top 10 in many offensive categories, including hr’s and rbi’s.