Comments on: Results: Would You Sign Barry Bonds http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:15:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: toomanyuniforms http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249287 toomanyuniforms Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:24:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249287 You forgot "punting your integrity out of the stadium" among the "costs," but that's fine. I'm really not sure they won't win anything with Tater and Chavez out there. Chavez is really coming on offensively, and I like what he's brought to the lineup and (especially) defense. How many ENORMOUS catches has he made look absolutely routine in the last 10 games? Unreal. I also have no problem with Tatis platooning with a Lofton/Nelson Cruz/virtually anyone else type in left. You forgot “punting your integrity out of the stadium” among the “costs,” but that’s fine.

I’m really not sure they won’t win anything with Tater and Chavez out there. Chavez is really coming on offensively, and I like what he’s brought to the lineup and (especially) defense. How many ENORMOUS catches has he made look absolutely routine in the last 10 games? Unreal. I also have no problem with Tatis platooning with a Lofton/Nelson Cruz/virtually anyone else type in left.

]]> By: GravediggerHebner http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249024 GravediggerHebner Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:30:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249024 Ludacrispat and atobe, you both make valid reasonable arguments that make me glad I am not the GM, and I'll assume that both of you have not been in the "the Mets roster is too old and decrepit" camp because otherwise this desire for Bonds would be hypocritical. I have had the MLB package for the last 3 years, and watching Bonds "move" in the OF made me feel physical pain. I admit that at the end of the day, I just HATE the guy (irrational? perhaps) and I would pretty much rather try anyone else out there. Apparently 30 GMs agree with me. Collusion anyone? Ludacrispat and atobe, you both make valid reasonable arguments that make me glad I am not the GM, and I’ll assume that both of you have not been in the “the Mets roster is too old and decrepit” camp because otherwise this desire for Bonds would be hypocritical. I have had the MLB package for the last 3 years, and watching Bonds “move” in the OF made me feel physical pain. I admit that at the end of the day, I just HATE the guy (irrational? perhaps) and I would pretty much rather try anyone else out there. Apparently 30 GMs agree with me. Collusion anyone?

]]> By: atobe http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249014 atobe Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:25:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-249014 If baseball really wanted the steroid era to just disappear then how come the 2008 AS team has Miguel Tejada on it. Why is Jason Giambi a last man vote for the team? It's obvious that the fans do not care because Giambi might actually win it. And it's obvious the players and managers don't care because guys like Tejada are on it. The commish and other MLB executives are blackballing Barry Bonds for their own reasons, and it's a lot more than "please don't sign him" it's more like "sign him and you will pay the consequences down the road". If baseball really wanted the steroid era to just disappear then how come the 2008 AS team has Miguel Tejada on it. Why is Jason Giambi a last man vote for the team? It’s obvious that the fans do not care because Giambi might actually win it. And it’s obvious the players and managers don’t care because guys like Tejada are on it.

The commish and other MLB executives are blackballing Barry Bonds for their own reasons, and it’s a lot more than “please don’t sign him” it’s more like “sign him and you will pay the consequences down the road”.

]]> By: 0h the ag0ny http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248960 0h the ag0ny Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:07:27 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248960 BONDS is a great player. Could probably still hit 14 HR after the allstar break if he had the chance. But his time is done, that simple. People in baseball want the steroids era to be a forgotten memory && it starts with Bonds being excluded. I still firmly believe the commish went to all mlb teams confidentialy && said "for the sake of baseball, do not let this man play." BONDS is a great player. Could probably still hit 14 HR after the allstar break if he had the chance. But his time is done, that simple. People in baseball want the steroids era to be a forgotten memory && it starts with Bonds being excluded.

I still firmly believe the commish went to all mlb teams confidentialy && said “for the sake of baseball, do not let this man play.”

]]> By: NC_MetsGuy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248959 NC_MetsGuy Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:07:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248959 Why is also why Matt shouldn't give his opinion before he asks his reader's to vote. We need Barry Barry! Who's Frank? Why is also why Matt shouldn’t give his opinion before he asks his reader’s to vote.

We need Barry Barry!

Who’s Frank?

]]> By: Peter H http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248957 Peter H Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:06:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248957 Personally, I think the benefits Bonds brings - namely, a 170+ OPS to a team that desperately needs another corner outfielder - outweigh the costs (e.g. the media circus, the lack of mobility in the outfield, the injury risks). But since it's never going to happen, I'm wondering what alternatives the Mets are considering. I hope the Mets realize (1) they can't rely on Church & Alou to play regularly in the 2nd half (2) they're not going to win anything giving their corner OF starts to Chavez, Tatis, & Anderson. Personally, I think the benefits Bonds brings – namely, a 170+ OPS to a team that desperately needs another corner outfielder – outweigh the costs (e.g. the media circus, the lack of mobility in the outfield, the injury risks). But since it’s never going to happen, I’m wondering what alternatives the Mets are considering. I hope the Mets realize (1) they can’t rely on Church & Alou to play regularly in the 2nd half (2) they’re not going to win anything giving their corner OF starts to Chavez, Tatis, & Anderson.

]]> By: atobe http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248927 atobe Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:53:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248927 Whoops, I forgot Nick Evans Whoops, I forgot Nick Evans

]]> By: atobe http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248922 atobe Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:52:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248922 Mets fans and baseball fans in general seriously use Bonds defense as a reason to NOT sign a guy, when all the statistics show Bonds is still a major league level defensive LF. In 2007, the creaky old Barry Bonds had a .831 RZR, not amazing by any means but better than names like Endy Chavez and Damion Easley, and better than sluggers like Adam Dunn, Pat Burrell and Carlos Lee. In 2008 the Mets are playing guys like Marlon Anderson in Left Field. Mets fans shouldn't be 'disgusted' to sign Barry Bonds, they should be disgusted that the Mets carry total scrubs like Marlon Anderson and his .506 OPS. They should be disgusted that Fernando Tatis, Brady Clark, Angel Pagan, Moises Alou, Endy Chavez, Anderson, Damion Easley, Trot Nixon, Andy Phillips and Chris Aguila have all played Left Field for the Mets at one point and they all flat out suck for one reason or another (or a bunch). Mets fans and baseball fans in general seriously use Bonds defense as a reason to NOT sign a guy, when all the statistics show Bonds is still a major league level defensive LF.

In 2007, the creaky old Barry Bonds had a .831 RZR, not amazing by any means but better than names like Endy Chavez and Damion Easley, and better than sluggers like Adam Dunn, Pat Burrell and Carlos Lee.

In 2008 the Mets are playing guys like Marlon Anderson in Left Field. Mets fans shouldn’t be ‘disgusted’ to sign Barry Bonds, they should be disgusted that the Mets carry total scrubs like Marlon Anderson and his .506 OPS. They should be disgusted that Fernando Tatis, Brady Clark, Angel Pagan, Moises Alou, Endy Chavez, Anderson, Damion Easley, Trot Nixon, Andy Phillips and Chris Aguila have all played Left Field for the Mets at one point and they all flat out suck for one reason or another (or a bunch).

]]> By: Ludacrispat http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248921 Ludacrispat Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:52:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248921 x100. It's why you don't have polling data with biased questions. It's unfair to ask, "Fans, would you want that cheating loser Bonds on your team?" x100.

It’s why you don’t have polling data with biased questions.

It’s unfair to ask, “Fans, would you want that cheating loser Bonds on your team?”

]]> By: Ludacrispat http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248920 Ludacrispat Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:50:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/09/results-would-you-sign-barry-bonds/#comment-248920 Bonds isn't THAT bad in left. Alou moves and he gets injured. And with Chavez/Church and Beltran, the outfield will be just fine defensively. Bonds isn’t THAT bad in left. Alou moves and he gets injured.

And with Chavez/Church and Beltran, the outfield will be just fine defensively.

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