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At his blog, NY Sports Dog, Dave asks SNY.tv’s Ted Berg 10 questions.
…hat tip to Ted Berg for the link…you’re so vain…
Joe Janish of Mets Today looks at the Mets second-half from both a glass half hull and half empty perspective.
Over at Bugs & Cranks, Brad Bortone transcribes his recent conversation with his newborn daughter about the finer points of the 2008 Mets.
Mets Merized Online’s Joe says Billy Wagner’s performance in last night’s All Star Game proves he is no All Star.
Anthony De Rosa of Hot Foot recaps his time at last night’s MLB All Star party at Webster Hall.
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By the way- that MLB All Star party at Webster Hall was two major thumbs down. It totally sucked.
I always thought Webster Hall totally sucked in general.
“Mets Merized Online’s Joe says Billy Wagner’s performance in last night’s All Star Game proves he is no All Star.”
We knew that before the game even started.
It’s not possible for every All-Star to perform like an All-Star in the actual All-Star game, is it? Someone’s got to give up runs and strike out.
Wagner gave up hits on two tough pitches. A bit embarassing that he blew the lead that kept everyone there til 1 AM, but it happens.
I just wish Kazmir didn’t pitch around Wright that last inning…he was primed to take him deep!
This is not an isolated case with Wagner. He’s done it before in ASGs, playoff games and in games his team desperately needed to win. Just ask Willie.
Wright was getting primed to enter the game and
pitch.
Having Wright Pitch would have been terrible. Wasn’t it Canseco a few years ago who pitched in a ‘mop up’ situation and hurt his arm. Wright has trouble throwing anyway and can you imagine if he hurt his arm or hit a batter in the head. Bud Selig better come up with some alternatives. What if the game had gone 20 innings?
100% true bkfitz
By that logic Uggla doesn’t even deserve to play on my softball team.
Then it must be true.
In regards to Wagner, if you take a look around the NL, who would anyone rather have? I know he’s been bad in a lot of big games, and I certainly get nervous in those situations, but honestly, who else is there? Lidge has been the best NL closer this year, but his terrible job in the 2005 NLCS and WS caused him to stink for an entire year after that and I’d be nervous as a Phillies fan to see him in a big spot in the playoffs (he wasn’t all that great last night either). Hoffman has been the best in the NL over the past decade but he’s been even worse than Wagner in big games/all star games. I’m not saying Wagner is ideal, all I’m saying is that our NL competition doesn’t really have anyone better.
and remember, there’s only 1 active pitcher who’s ever blown a save in Game 7 of a World Series, and it’s not Billy Wagner.
The fact is, almost every closer in baseball is shaky. None of them have been perfect, and Wagner’s actually one of the better ones.
exactly. I just don’t get people who say that we can never win anything with Wagner as our closer when they can’t pick a team in our league who has someone better. And it wasn’t too long ago that the Marlins won the World Series with a combination of Urbina and Looper as their closers.
oh please you can’t be serious, Wagner can’t hold Rivera’s cup let alone his jock strap
If the umpires actually enforced the strikezone, we wouldn’t be complaining about Wagner today. He got squeezed on a high inside fastball that, by definition of the strikezone in the rule book, was a strike.
true, and the double was a pitch way out of the stirke zone that longoria golfed out.
I understand both arguments. He’s let some big games get away this year but there are also times he’s looked dominant and no other team in the NL has anyone that’s completely lights out (even if the stats say Lidge is, I’ll reserve judgement until the end of the year).
On a sidenote, I was watching the game at a local bar last night and it was my worst nightmare with Yankees fans on one side of the bar and I was sitting in between a couple of Red Sox fans. I’ve come to expect the normal razzing from Yankees fans but after Holliday hit his homerun and my friend and I were clapping one of the Sox fans looked around to see who was clapping, amazingly he didn’t notice my Mets hat and my friend’s Mets shirt when we were sitting right next to him, and he gave us a dismissive look and said “you’re not making the World Series”. I then told him that it took the Red Sox 90 years to do what the Mets did in about 20. Later on when they brought Wagner in he made a comment to me about how the NL wants the AL to win the game with the pitching change. I then had to remind him that it was Papelbon that was on the mound for the NL’s go ahead run.
As Mets fans we all have our issues with Yankees fans, and as much as I loved to see the Sox stuff it to the Yankees in 2004, a part of me wished that the Sox never broke the curse or at least didn’t win last year, since their fans are becoming just as intolerable as Yankees fans.
New England sports fans have become increasingly arrogant the past 5-6 years.
It just seems it’s more the Sox fans than any of their team’s fans. Last time I was in Boston, at the height of the Pats dynasty I hardly saw any Pats attire. I know they love the Sox and they have a loyal following just as much as any large city/old franchise but I told a guy I work with that the Sox dominated the beginning of last century too and then look what happened.
Well, I wonder why? Couldn’t have anything to do with WINNING….
Of course I expect the fans to gloat about their team’s success, that’s what fans do.
Still, the Sox and the Mets have nothing to do with each other unless they face off in the World Series.
And for one of their fans to suppose we’re not going to even make it, when at this stage of the season there’s nothing close to being decided is arrogance plain and simple.
It’s not like they have a stranglehold on the AL East anyway and they have historically had their own late season swoons, including last year when they came way too close to losing the division lead to the Yankees after being way ahead for most of the year. I can name a long list of reasons why the Sox are vulnerable: no Papi and if he comes back how effective will he be, inconsistent production from Manny, nearly automatic outs at the bottom of their lineup with Varitek, Crisp and Lugo, lack of a reliable set-up man, the potential for wear on their younger starters like Lester, Buckholz, Masterson, etc). They may have won their World Series in convincing fashion against the Cards and Rockies, but they had to come back from nearly impossible odds against the Yankees in 2004 and Indians last year in the ALCS to do it.
I agree that they’re one of the stronger teams in the league, but they are far from a guarantee to make it back to Fall Classic.
Bro, if your argument is that there World Series wins are great, but they had to fight for it, Met fans should immediately stop talking about 1986 with glowing reverence.
They have earned their right to gloat, and if by some mishap I ever end up in the alternate universe where the Mets are not only “potentially” the best team in baseball but actually win a couple or three world series in the course of say 4 or 5 years I will be the most arrogant obnoxious Met fan alive.
They have the right to stick their beaks in the air.
As for WHO is more likely to be playing deep into October the Mets or Red Sox, no matter what color I bleed, reality and the bookies say Boston.
The point I was trying to make was they are not a sure bet to make the World Series this year. Do they have a better chance than the Mets of winning? Of course they do, but these past 10 or so years has proven that almost any AL team inherently has an advantage over their NL opponent. Making it out of the AL is another matter all together.
Increasingly arrogant? They have every right to be. Their baseball team has won 2 WS in the past 4 years. They’ve won 3 Super Bowls this decade and were undefeated in the regular season, before losing this past super bowl, AND their basketball team just won a title.
I’d be arrogant too….
Red Sox fans have pretty much become everything they’ve ever hated about Yankee fans. Hypocrisy at its finest.
What exactly are these fans who spend boatloads of money on merchandise, tickets and the like to do? Hold counseling sessions for underpriveleged fans who feel left out?
I”ve been to Boston and been to games at Fenway several times, before and after this current WS titles. Sox fans are true blue. Can’t say that about Yankee fans. Worked in NYC in the early to mid 1990s. NOBODY wore Yankees gear, until they won in 1996. The staidum was EMPTY. And then, all of a sudden EVERYONE was “a Yankee fan since forever…blah blah blah….”
I have nothing against the Sox and their fans. They’re real baseball fans. Yankee “fans” are the hypocrites.
I agree with a lot you that Wagner is clearly one of the best of the bunch in the NL, but that does not make me any more comfortable in him in a big spot.
Maybe the moral of the story is that even the better, high-paid closers can be just as shaky in a big spot as anyone else, so dont go giving $50m contracts to a closer, and instead use that money in other areas.
i don’t believe what i’m seeing… joe janish being positive about the Mets!
“I don’t want to use a strong word like ‘dump,’ but the Mets definitely need a new ballpark,” said Twins closer Joe Nathan. ” –espn
Lol
Nathan is a fellow Alum of USB so I have always followed his career and he is a favorite player of mine. But before he starts picking on Shea he may want to look at his own home stadium. They have a garbage bag for a right field wall and a white dome. What brainchild decided it would be good to have a white roof when a white ball will need to be seen against it.
Ya know, I know Nathan pitched at PacBellSBCAT&T Park but he does pitch in the wet blanket known as the Metro Dome right now.
FWIW – Nathan grew up in Middletown as a Mets fan
Off topic but I just looked at Nelson Cruz’ line and it is more than amazing. The average (.339), power (26 HR), even the speed (20 SB) is all there (84 games). He would be an extremely low risk / high reward pick-up.
Agreed.
Eh, while you can’t deny his numbers in AAA, last year in 94 games he hit .235/.287/.384 while striking out roughly 28% of the time. To put the K’s in perspective, even when Reyes was free-swinging in ‘04 he only struck out at about 14%. He is only 28 and a righty so if he comes cheap I wouldn’t mind giving him a try.
My question is why no wind up last night? Wags has been using a windup all year and he comes in and works from the stretch with no one on base. I would also agree he was squeezed on a couple of calls that would have made the whole thing mute. But the umpiring in general was pretty bad last night. Kinsler clearly was not tagged on the steal and Navarro was safe later in the inning at home which wouldn’t have mattered as Kinsler would have scored before that point. Made me think the umps had picked the NL in the office pool or something.
Wags dumped the windup soon after Peterson left.
Man I know I have had hard time catching games because of my schedule but you would think I would have noticed that before now.
no no no no no
Many things can be attributed to or blamed on Peterson.
Wagner did not dump the wind up until he blew in Philly. Nor did peterson encourage his use of it, he just did not discourage it.
i didn’t mean to link it to Peterson like that. i only meant to use Peterson’s departure as a point of reference. although i guess i could have said after Willie left…
Wagner dropped the windup during the series with Colorado. I was at the first game and was kinda surprised to see him drop it and just pitch out of the stretch.
Ted, you’re a pleasure to work with…a real pro.
Guys, I was just reading that Michael Cuduyer could be a possible trade candidate…How about him for RF??
His decline in production scares me…besides, I am confident in Church for RF.
I am leaning to “stay the course” with our OF.
I worry about Church coming back at full strength, something tells me we’re looking at a Wayne Chrebet situation, even so…Cudduyer could play LF
Cuddyer is a cog at this point, and worth consideration….just not sure he’s an upgrade….his numbers are problematic.
You know, one guy who I wouldn’t mind going after is Clint Barmes. Tulowitsky is coming back and Clint’s been in a bit of a slump lately since returning from his injury.The indications are that he’s going to be moved to the bench as Tulowitsky and rest of the Rox are getting healthy.
A change of scenery could be good for him as well. This is exactly the type of player Omar likes to target, undervalued high upside young athletic players.
I like Easley, but I would rather rely on a guy like Barmes for an everyday role and have Damien bolster the bench. He can probably be had for a relatively low cost and would be a nice upgrade over Castillo. Then we can send away castillo (provided we eat some of that awful contract) for something, anything.
Barmes is younger, has some pop, and hits for average with postseason experience. I would welcome the move.
Got to disagree with you bit time on Barmes.
He has a lifetime .227 BA, .266 OBP and .600 OPS away from Coors.
Even his total numbers, including Coors, are pretty brutal.
If you are not going for any major moves then Nelson Cruz is the way to go.
You mean, the hispanic Val Passuci?
All in, or stand pat. Window dressing moves won’t change the dynamics of the race.
Window dressing moves are often a big part of a race. In fact based on history the little moves pay off much more than the big moves do in a pennant race.
The pitch Longoria hit was a good slider, down and in, not even in the strike zone. Nine times out of ten any righty swings over that pitch or yanks it foul. He got lucky if you ask me, I could see if he hung one…
That being said, it would have been nice to see our AS representative have a successful outing.
Guess we’ll have to win in five to give Shea that grand sendoff…
I wouldn’t mind winning in 4 either.
I think it really just brings attention to how superfluous the role of closer really is. Every team has one, but few are any good. With the exception of Mariano there are very few players even worthy of the role. That’s why I don’t give much credence to the idea that a “solid closer” is an essential part to successful bullpen. Teams have been closing out games for practically one hundred years before the invention of the closer. Any reliever on a given night can be a “closer.” I mean, couldn’t you have just a s well seen Joe Smith in that role last night?
Only in NY can a guy with a 2.31 ERA and a 5:1 K:BB ratio be considered not an all-star. Let’s stop acting like Yankee fans here.
He is paid to SAVE GAMES not have a specific ERA or a really special K:BB Ratio.
The fact the he has BLOWN SIX and has that type of line is sickening.
Man, Scott Miller of Sportsline really hates Jose Reyes. First he puts him on his “Anti All Stars” roster article the other week, then takes a swipe at him in his mid season grades article stating; “Two second-half keys: shortstop Jose Reyes and first baseman Carlos Delgado. If they decide to play, maybe the Mets can make something of this season, after all.”
I sure hope the “start” playing too. Considering they are both hitting .367 in July. LOL.
when you are totally ignorant and get all your information second and third hand, you make really bold statements that you can’t back up, the dope who hosts the local afternoon show on ESPN radio in my neck of the woods went on a mindless rant after the Mets fired Randolph saying and I quote…
“Omar Minaya is a coward, but what do you expect from the guy that traded Scott Kazmir.”
so, there ya go
Guys the cheap answer is Casey Blake. The guy is an everyday player and can play almost any position. He is RH and hits LHP very well. And for all of you who buy into the BARISP it’s incredible.
He is a FA and would only cost about what Castillo did last season.
I could get behind Blake as a rental….interesting!
Sounds good. But like I stated earlier in this post Nelson Cruz I believe would be even cheaper. I read that it could get done with a couple of B – C prospects. What would Blake cost us?
That actually seems like too much for Cruz, he’s like 28 isn’t he? And still in AAA? And even if they still considered him a prospect he’s being majorly blocked, by younger better players.
I mean, unless I’m misunderstanding the meaning of B prospects. I would think guys like Evans and Niese are considered B prospects.
Maybe he meant B minus C+? LOW.
Yes those are B prospects.
I would think that guys like what we sent for Castillo last year would get either.
Niese and Martinez for us would be A- Prospects. Evans, Carp, guys like that would be a B in my book. Any one of those for Cruz is acceptable. Don’t you think?
You are correct Metsguy that is exactly what I meant. Thanks. Guys we could live without.
Niese is not an A prospect. He will be a middle of the rotation guy at best thus he is a B prospect.
Fmart still has A status because he is 19 but his value will go down as he ages if he does not put up GREAT numbers. We need to decide this season if Fmart is our future or not. If he is then hang on to him and do not trade him for anything. If not, then trade him right now for a package for Holliday, Bay, etc. We should not play the Milledge game with Fmart. He either is or is not the LF for the Mets in 2010.
Maybe Carp but still considering Cruz should have almost zero value for the Rangers, he’s being blocked by young better players like I said, and that he’s 28 and in AAA and hasn’t shown he can hit major league pitching I’d say that still seems like a lot. And I don’t like Carp at all.
I mean would you trade Nick Evans for Val Pascucci?
No but Val is no athlete at all. I would, however, trade Carp for Cruz. Carp has no position with us anyway and has less value each minute. Just while I was typing this he slipped to a C prospect.
I agree Niese is not a A Prospect outside our organization but within he is as close to A as can get. If you traded Niese now you’d have mostly hate directed at Omar. And I too am getting a little tired of this Martinez Hype. We need to start making desicions as to how valuable he really is. Better to sell high than have another Milledge let down. We didn’t want to trade him before and look now.
Actually you’re right. I would have no problem with Carp for Cruz, if Texas would go for it.
I agree, if we can get a proven youngER OF under contract past this season for Fmart then we MAY need to trade him. The only reason we do not is if they say ok Fmart WILL be the LF next season barring injury and we WILL be in the 1B market for Tex with Dunn and Blalock as a backup. You can’t bring up AA players to the MLB in a pennant race and expect to increase their value.
About the same as Castillo last year I would guess.
I am on board for Cruz too but the good thing about Blake is that he is already hitting in the MLB and can play multiple positions. Kinda like Easley except Blake can play everday.
With Blake against a LHP you can go
Reyes, Blake, Wright, Beltran, Church, Easley, Castro, Tatis. With Delgado, Castillo, Endy, Schnieder, Anderson all chomping at the bits for a RHRP.
Nelson Cruz better be cheap….he can’t hit at all. Hasn’t he cleared waivers a few times this year?
Guys…Tatis is better than a lot of these guys being mentioned, plus Church is coming back, and Pagan may be as well.
How does a guy put up those numbers in AAA and then you say he can’t hit at all. We have no idea if he can hit at all. Why not bring him in now and see what he has before the deadline. If he is garbage then throw him away and get someone else.
Look at the league. Chip Ambres has 16 HRs and 62 RBIs. Pascucci is raking there.
It’s a hitters league, which is why these guys have inflated numbers and no homes on a major league team.
Tatis is getting it done here now, where it matters….taking a flyer on a minor leaguer who can’t crack a big league lineup (and when he has he has been awful), is not something a championship team does in July.
Again, do you not think he is worth a shot over Cancel? If he sucks you have lost nothing.
That is the point I was trying to make when I said low risk \ High reward. You loose nothing by sticking him in left a couple of weeks and seeying if he produces. Even if he produces at a slower pace than in AAA it would still be good. His 20 SBs indicate he is a good athlete and lets not loose focus here Tatis and Easley are our bench guys I don’t think playing them everyday will preserve them in the long haul.
I would also like to point out that while that is a hitters league, he leads that hitters league in a lot of catagories and is in the top 3 in all of them.
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
It really is a hitters league….the stud pitchers are in AA….the league leader list in the PCL is chock full of mid to late 20s guys who are good players, but not ones a major league team looking for a championship woul rely on.
I would be much happier with a guy who has shown he can produce consistently in the big leagues.
We all would but they would come at more of a price.
That is why I would not mind trading a dead end prospect for him, stick him in a few games and see what he has. No luck then back to the board before the deadline.
Besides you also have to assume that we don’t make a big trade and you need bench players. Do you think a championship team has Robinson Cancel on it?
All you few folks who so bodly assume we have no place for Carp, have you ever seen him play live baseball in your life?
Does on TV count?
How about Austin Kearns of your looking for cheap
Only problem is that his contract is terrible and his numbers are just as bad.
8 million for 2009 and 10 million for 2010. If you do that then you might as well trade Fmart for pitching or for a 1B because you don’t want him in the minors until 2011.
Go here and look at the stats by a bunch of 26-30 year old guys who aren’t on big league rosters (for a reason).
Don’t kill me if that link doesn’t work!
Grrrrr….anyway, go to Baseball-Reference and look at the PCL stats.
well, it was a very nice bold face underline though…
the fact is I find that fans routinely try to get to clever looking at other teams stats, all year long I have heard that Carp, Evans and Murphy are not for real, yet they are exceling, particularly Evans and Carp at young ages in comparison to their peers in the same league whereas we are looking to and fro at these over the age of 26 career minor leaguers mashing the Pacific Coast League and thinking there is a diamond in the rough.
If I had to guess, Minaya in his comments about no 4:1 deals is trying to gear up to get someone to bite on Fernado Martinez plus one other prospect to get a legitmate bat in here.
Let me help you out here, formating won’t be great but surely you can follow. I think you are actually backing my point. He is the best of the hitters in a hitters league.
Name Team POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG OPS
Nelson Cruz OKL RF 84 301 77 102 16 3 26 74 202 53 71 20 7 .440 .671 .339 1.112
Dallas McPherson ALB 3B 87 301 65 89 12 3 32 71 203 55 112 10 5 .403 .674 .296 1.078
Jamie D’Antona TUC 3B 88 323 55 121 31 1 15 61 199 24 50 0 0 .416 .616 .375 1.032
Terry Tiffee LVG 3B 78 328 64 129 35 3 8 59 194 23 33 0 2 .431 .591 .393 1.022
Matthew Brown SLC 3B 83 344 69 112 28 4 20 62 208 26 66 4 2 .376 .605 .326 .981
Valentino Pascucci NOZ RF 73 254 47 75 14 0 18 51 143 52 66 2 0 .418 .563 .295 .981
Ian Stewart CSP 3B 68 254 63 71 14 6 19 56 154 33 66 7 2 .371 .606 .280 .977
John Lindsey LVG 1B 90 333 58 107 27 1 17 73 187 38 51 0 0 .399 .562 .321 .961
Brian Myrow POR 1B 87 299 56 97 21 1 10 53 150 71 63 0 1 .455 .502 .324 .957
Seth Smith CSP OF 68 248 55 80 16 2 10 53 130 46 46 11 0 .426 .524 .323 .950
Get em’ Metsguy!
I would encourage anyone to go look at the stats on Baseball_reference for the PCL.
29-year old Terry Tiffee leads the league with a .393 BA, followed by 26-year old Jamie D’atona at .375.
29-year old Jason Dubois has a robust .780 Slg %.
31-year old Josh Lindsey has 71 RBIs.
Folks, please don’t get fooled by the PCL stats…there are a lot of big league talent evaluators that are missing the boat if these stats meant much at all.
I just posted them and I am sure you are smart enough to follow them. Look at his numbers, I don’t care if it’s in the Taco Bell league it’s worth a nobody prospect. The guy leads the league in OPS and SB. Come on, who cares about a C prospect?
your grade, and you are trading up six years of age based on the notion of athleteicism?
Sorry, but if Cruz was so promising the Rangers would slap a first basemen mitt on on his hand and beat Chris Shelton over the head with an ugly stick.
Sorry Pat, you need to catch up with the times. Shelton is not around anymore and the Rangers don’t need a 1B. Chris Davis is the starter now and is their next stud. Not to mention minor league numbers but his were tremendous coming into the season and he will be their 1B for seasons to come.
WOW what a novelty act, the Rangers give playing time to their 22 year old prospects vs. the scrap heap run producer in the PCL…
I am shocked.
In the meantime you are sending someone to them that you have designated at a C level without a postiion for areas in which they have no need so we can steal the “sleeper”
You are fishing for solutions at the dollar store.
YUP. And sometimes one mans garbage is another man’s treasure. Basball is FULL of examples where these type of things have worked and have not worked. Again, it’s worth a shot.
Just so you know, the PCL is an EXTREMELY hitter friendly league.
FYI–28-year old Chip Ambres is a PCL stud this year….second in the league in runs scored behind 27-year old Nelson Cruz.
There are a lot of guys 2nd to Cruz in a lot of categories. Cruz is not THE answer but he is an option and would make for a fine bench player if he is not able to start. You make that trade of a Carp for him and if he can’t cut it then you have the best AAA OF in the history of MLB, LOL.
Why Cruz then?
Why not 31-year old Brian Myrow, who outdistances Cruz in OBP .455 to .440.
Plus Myrow can play first base!
:-)
Because he can’t steal 20 bases and is younger? Look any guy that can post over 1.000 OPS and have 20 SB is rare no matter what the league. That would be rare in HS rec league.
Again, I am not saying he is even good. I am just saying he is worth a nothing prospect to see what happens. He is not going to be worse than Robinson Cancel.
reading this entire thread confirms it!
its the off-day after the all-star game.
nelson cruz?!?—thats all you got?
I am guessing because Myrow once was not supposed to be a good player before settling into the PCL mega hitter groove
One more example, then I need to make some calls.
Remember Big Russ Branyan? Hit a few big league HRs, but had about 800 Ks in less than 3,000 big league at-bats to go along with a lifetime .229 batting average?
He is hitting .359 with a 1.136 OPS in the PCL this year.
That’s why I am saying don’t be fooled by the numbers.
Really bad bad example. Unless you are trying to prove my point. Branyan has an OPS of .934 in the bigs this season. Don’t guess we would want that.
Branyan is hitting .245 this year with 37 Ks in 106 at-bats for the Brewers.
He hit .196 in the big leagues last year for 4 teams..
He may hit the occasional dinger, but he is not a guy I want in our outfield.
So that is your “good” example? Wow.
THE GUY HAS A .934 OPS. Granted OPS isn’t everything but that would lead our team. I am sure we would all love to have a guy like that on our bench over ROBINSON CANCEL.
You must be old school and not be able to get past BA and SO.
OPS is the way to go buddy.
oh please, Branyan has had 100 at-bats he came on like a manimal but is 2 for his last 26
I am not saying I want him Pat, I am just saying that was a terrible example of a guy that hit well in the minors and struggled in the majors. Actually his numbers that he has put up in the majors are what you would expect for a guy hitting like that in the PCL. Again, we all would love to get Nady, Bay or Holliday. But there is nothing wrong with trying to improve the bench.
Metsguy….Russ Branyan has played in the big leagues for 11 years and has a lifetime .229 average, and 792 Ks in 1,974 at bats.
He has Kd 37 times in 104 big league at bats this year…a 200+ pace for next to no return (19 RBIs and 11 HRS????)
Yet he is PCL’s answer to Mickey Mantle.
So again, it is a great example of why you shouldn’t get fooled by PCL heroes.
But his stats this season would not look bad on a contender’s bench. The ole catch lightning in a bottle. In fact he was good enough to at least bench one of the Brewers starters.
Branyan and OPS:
After a hot start after his callup he has the following number over the 28 days of play:
.180 BA, .241 OBP, .380 Slg, and the magical OPS? .621
He is 9 for his last 54.
Branyan is not a terrible example, he is actually a perfect example of a guy who could not hack it in the show, pimps out like a hall of famer in the PCL and is coming back to his one dimensional self in the majors.
You simply DO NOT trade up six years in age, no matter what you think of Carp to get a guy who in his late 20’s has found his inner Ron Kittle in the PCL.
And again, watch out using stats. You are focussing too much on SO and BA. Then you say he has nothing in return for it by hitting 11 HR in 104.
That averages out to be 50 HR over a full season. Obviously he won’t hit 50 HR but again, bad use of stats to prove a point.
Teams do it all the time in a pennant race. Who did we trade for Jeff Conine, Luis Castillo, etc.? Again, he is NOT THE answer but I still think he is worth a shot.
Great points Patrick.
Come on Patrick has not even made a point. You are just brown nosing because he is arguing with me. Dont’ get too excited that is just what he does. He is the Devil’s advocate.
wait a second hold the phone here…
Branyan displaced who? It would not be that other guy you had been advocating the Mets pick up would it?
Patrick said you don’t trade 6 years of age, which I agree with, especially from a young developing player who has much higher trade value.
Why are you upset that I agree with Patrick?
OK, awesome Metsguy! WTG! You rock!
Feel better now?
Yup. Again, I am looking for bench players on a contender.
Patrick, I don’t know why I let you pull me back in. YOU HAVE STILL NOT STUCK YOUR NECK OUT AND GIVEN A SOLUTION OF YOUR OWN!
I have made a point, you just do not like the point.
And do not compare rifling after Conine and Castillo with the likes of Jose Castro and Sal Butera with dealing a guy who just turned 22 and is having a major rebound year for a guy who has repeatedly failed in the majors or a guy who has never been able to make it past AAA.
Again, I said that I would trade a C prospect for Rivera. I would not want to trade Carp but I would if I had to. I do not think he is anything special.
And yes I consider it worse to trade for Jeff Conine. Talk about losing years with who ever you trade.
I have repeatedly said get a legitimate outfielder. Everyone seems to believe that cannot be done, so be it.
Then stick with what you have, that is my solution.
If you cannot get a Holiday or Bay at a reasonable price, dealing for 28 year olds gunning for the triple crown in the PCL is not worth it.
Have you wondered what is holding Florida back from calling up the all powerful Dallas McPherson?
Woops, wrong piece of junk. Meant Cruz.
Stick with ROBINSON CANCEL? No thanks.
Robinson Cancel was on the roster for the weekend so Castro could in theory pinch hit.
anyone else notice that nick evans face always looks like hes eating a sour grape or something
He looks like Chase Utley’s inbred cousin