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The Game:
The Mets (52-44) look to tie the club record by winning their eleventh straight game as they continue their four-game series against the Reds (46-51) tonight at Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati, starting at 7:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- LF Marlon Anderson
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 2B Damion Easley
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- RF Fernando Tatis
- C Brian Schneider
- P John Maine
The Pitchers:
RHP John Maine (8-6, 3.99 ERA) starts for the Mets.
RHP Bronson Arroyo (7-7, 5.97 ERA) starts for the Reds.
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen locally on SNY and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.
…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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If the Mets win tonight, they can easily sweep this series with Ollie and Pelfrey going tomorrow and Sunday.
LETS GO METS!!!
thats not the way baseball works.
Nichols…..some nice commentary on this one “enjoy, as always Lets go Mets”……man of many words are we???
That’s the classic pregame greeting here at Metsblog; has been as long as I’ve been following.
Geez man, it is a wonderful, FREE website—if you don’t like Nichols’ posts, get a life and find something else to do!!!
Let’s go Long John! No wins the last three starts, your better then that! Join in the streak. Let’s go Met’s!
Couldn’t agree more kingman 26. To take it a step further, this should apply to those who come here and criticize Cerrone on a regular basis.
These people supply the best one-stop source of info & buzz on our beloved Mets. People who feel the need to pan their work are truly sad individuals.
They should demand their money back!
Of course my response was to dobo2519…..
i dont like the line up why anderson nothing against but he more of a pinch hitter put in that reyes guy hes not doing bad.
Lefty/Righy matchup i guess. But he’s only 1/12 career vs Arroyo.
he has been the one Met who hasn’t been tearing it up lately… tonight is a great night to start
i mean to start tearing it up, not just get the start
I just think that it’s a good idea to get Marlon some ABs to give him a chance to get in a groove. We know he’s a better pinch-hitter than he’s shown this year and it would be great to have him be a dangerous weapon later in the year. ABs are the only way.
I don’t care as much on July 18th, but come September 18th, we can’t have Anderson starting in the field. of course, he will probably egt the game winning hit tonight but I hope the Mets can find a decent OF option at least before september 1st.
Amen
This is why I like Jerry…Marlon had a hit yesterday, he’s been slumping, and Jerry put him right there at #2 to give him a boost.
And that’s why he’s playing A. Reyes, tonight, too, because . . OHWAIT.
Going forward Marlon is going to be far more important than Argenis, and I have seen Jerry reward the kid with at bats, a start, and a place on this team.
Look, Anderson ain’t ideal, but how the F___ about…
Let’s Go Marlon, Let’s Go METS!!
SOme spirit people!
We love our Mets.
If this team had any heart at all, they could win 11 in a row in their sleep.
Yes, that’s a joke.
according to MLB.com, pedro is going to throw a bullpwen session saturday and if he is 100%, he may pitch tuesday. if he is not 100%, he will probably just skip oe turn int he rotation due to the off day allowing the other 4 starters to pitch on normal rest.
It would be great to keep the streak going, and to get some help from the Fish tonite.
I like the way Jerry has been working Nick Evans into things on a somewhat regular basis. If the organization is going to call him up, he needs to play. I also see that they believe that Chavez needs to rest regularly, and combined with his botching that ball last night, probably led to his day off.
I agree with the other folks who are fed up w/Marlon Anderson, and would rather see kids like Argenis play. BTW, I liked the comment this morning about the Mets’ record with Argenis Reyes on the roster…
Sorry to repeat, but . . . it just doesn’t make any sense to me to just give up on Marlon Anderson. He didn’t just forget how to hit. We *need* him to be the off-the-bench weapon this September that he was last September. Jerry has to find a way to get him in a groove. Argenis Reyes has been fun to watch but he’s not the professional hitter that Anderson has been for several years now.
Fed up with Anderson? Has anyone noticed that we’ve won 10 games in a row? This is a time when you don’t get to be “fed up” with anything Manuel wants to try. He ( & the team) have earned that by their play of the last 2 weeks.
Beyond that, Anderson was our most dependable lefty bat off the bench last season, and if he’s going to contribute this year, he has to be given an opportunity to find his “comfort zone”. The only way to do that is to let him have some ABs. Besides, I think young Reyes has been given ample PT by Jerry since his call-up, and I have little doubt that he will be asked to contribute many more times in his stay with the club.
wondering if anybody here bought the MLB at Bats application for iPhone, if so, is it any good?
I’ve been wondering about that too. Planning on getting an iPhone by the end of the month myself.
let’s go…11 in a row!!!!!!!!
These Cinci announcers are so pro-Reds…i mean they are talking about encarnacion “keeping it rollin”. Keep what rollin? their whole team sucks…the mets are the team rollin…
Their play-by-play man’s voice kinda irritates me. The way he says “Tatis” is really grating.
Brantley’s not bad. He’s pretty astute baseball guy. I liked him on ESPN.
Have to differ on the Brantley evaluation.
So far tonight he’s called our pitcher “George” Maine, and in his pre-game tips his first line was “keep the ball down.” It seems to me that John is at his best when he goes up the ladder and has them waving at the high heat.
Ugh….I know. Had to mute them on Extra Innings and put the WFAN feed on my computer…..but Howie is on vacay, so it’s Wayne (ick) and Eddie C (not bad for Mets Extra, but no play-by-play man). Still…better than the Reds announcers.
I really don’t like Hagin. I hope he’s not brought back next year.
Amen to that. Such phony enthusiasm,..he sounds like Joe Isuzu.
Yeah, I think we can all agree Hagin sucks.
The only bad part of either the TV or radio booths.
He’s good as the sommentator guy, not the play by play
Why does Arroyo have one of those old hats with the gray underneath the bill?
Arroyo’s ERA hasnt improved much since last time we saw him. We need to pounce on this guy so Maine has some breathing room.
Would have liked to have seen some more patience to start the game considering Arroyo owns a sub 2 ERA against us.
Kep! We hardly knew ye. We should have kept him. That was a bad trade.
Yeah, I really can’t fault that trade though at the time. Keep in mind Keppinger is, like, 28 now too.
I didn’t get the point of that trade. Keppinger for Gotay? Why?
I have a reason, but it won’t be too popular
Easy. Gotay was younger and showed more upside at the time, while Keppinger was losing prospect status and looking like a career minor leaguer.
I know, I know. Willie didn’t like Kep as a second baseman. But he didn’t like Gotay there any better.
Yes, 911nafstem, because he was latino.
He was a player from the previous regime. Start anew.
I know NIghtlife, but the reason why he “lost prospect status” was because the team unjustly kept saying that bout him while he’d be hitting up a storm. That’s what no one around here could understand, especially since we had no one better around at the time – or arguably since – to play second.
He’ll hit .300 over an entire season in this park someday.
The guy who said that Schneider is a great defensive catcher has gotta be the same guy who called Santana a fiery competitor
LOLOLOLOLOL
Oh no!! Joe Morgan’s in the house!!!!!
His plotting to work his way into the booth and take over the color commentary. Everybody run for your lives!!!!
Long (at-bats) John Maine!
Could you imagine having season tickets next to Joe Morgan?
Pretty sure there is a Surgeon General’s Warning against that.
The secret to beating the Mets is clearly throwing out pencil thin awkward looking white guys to pitch. Just ask Tony Larussa
We beat Lincecum.
Phils up 2-0 in the 2nd. Howard a solo HR, Burrell 2b, Jenkins 1b.
No more Cy Arroyo! I jinx thee!
I think Gary Cohen should call Ron Darling “Pizzaman” and Keith Hernandez “Sailor”…..just like they call Brantley “Cowboy”….
god i hate that.
I’m telling you, man. Put the TV feed on mute, use MLB.audio for the WFAN feed. Sycnhronize it by pausing the TV feed using your dvr/TiVo….no worries.
hahahaa but im watching on mlb.tv.
You have less of a life than the rest of us.
what happened “G”lider was taken away from you?
Wow, Slider, so watching the Mets out of market and not liking craptastic broadcasters is having not much of a life?
Interesting. What kind of life does a guy have to take the time to comment on how a loyal fellow Mets fan follows the team from 2,800 miles away from Flushing?
Projection much?
I’ve discovered that if the broadcasters are really driving you batty, you can open video in explorer and audio in firefox, or vice versa. They’re not in sync, of course, but for those times when you just really can’t take it any longer.
Um…there’s hustle, then there’s stupidity. that was stupid. Arroyo’s been untouchable. Make him throw from the stretch.
i dont hate it…bottom of the order….why not test dunn.
Worth a shot, I figure.
Apparently Dunn’s not quite as apathetic about baseball as we’re led to believe.
If it were closer, I’d agree, but the guy was waiting for him with the ball at 2nd long enough to order a cafe latte at Starbucks, drink it and then drive back to the ballpark.
If nothing else, 7th hitter leading off isn’t a terrible situation for trying it. You’re clearing the pitcher’s spot either way, and you’re not exactly killing a rally at the top of your order.
But you are right that it wasn’t very close. Except that if you watch a replay of the tag, Tatis managed to make it close anyway. One of these days, I’d love to see a guy called safe even though the ball beats him to the bag.
That would be nice (correct call, despite ball arriving early) but don’t hold your breath. Just look at the ASG 2nd base ump.
After the replays and thinking about it, it wasn’t utterly stupid…just a hustle play gone wrong.
Maybe Dunn is showing off for Omar?
Aw, Maine.
It’s offical: Keith Hernandez is in love with the St. Louis Cardinals.
Why? What did he say? I’m listening to the Reds feed.
Nothing in particular they were just talking about the Reds being in the wrong division and Gary brought up how good the Cardinals have been and when Keith talks about them he just seems absolutely in love with them. Seems happy for them. Happy they’ll get back Wainwright & Carpenter. Praising La Russa, etc.
Boy, that didn’t look like it was going out when the ball came off the bat.
Well, that made up for the two cheapos the Mets got last night
GABP is just as much of a joke as Citizens’ Bank.
This ballpark is officially a joke.
Hopefully we get a cheap home run tonight too.
Thats good for us as well. Lets hit some homeruns!
This ballpark is worse than Philly. Guy barely swung.
Jose has lost his mojo.
nice poke
Did they just start replaying the game? That swing looked awfully familiar.
OK, some people on here owe Marlon an apology…
Ok, the Mets are long overdue to smash Prince Valiant here
nice
i miss arroyo’s cornrows….they ruled
Psssst. They really didn’t.
you mean a skinny white guy with cornrows isn’t cool?
White people and cornrows should never mix
Time for a Beltran bomb.
Close enough :D
Nice Beltron!
-tran….wow, a Jon Miller moment.
This Jay Bruce fellow isn’t bad at baseball.
Oh come on. That bounced.
Come on, you gotta drive in another run in here.
I really like the fight we’re showing out the gates here in the second half. Earlier in the year, we would not have come back.
two words for you: JERRY MANUEL
You just love doing that regardless of how little connection it has to reality. Hope you got your little jolly out of it.
I don’t think anyone knows how much of a connection there is. It does seem a little coincidental though
Slider is right, it’s three words: No Willie Randolph.
Sure. The players don’t have to play each day answering questions about whether their manager will get fired if they lose the next game.
You think that might have something to do with it?
But they played dead since June of last season, so you really can’t use that excuse. I just don’t think that Willie connected with his players. Obviously I don’t know for sure, but just by listening to interviews you get the feeling that the players were tired of Willie’s act.
I wouldn’t discount the Bernazard effect. I think some of the Latin players stopped playing for Willie.
Whether or not it’s Willie’s “fault”, by the time the Mets fired Willie, it was time for Willie to go.
Whether he got pushed out by a bad front office and a bloodthirsty media, or if he just wasn’t a good fit for the team, getting rid of him has helped.
Yes re: Bernazard.
Willie is a nice man, just not an intelligent one. As such, he could probably manage a veteran AL team.
All that said, let’s just enjoy the better play, no need to dissect the whys / continue to flay “Brains” Randolph.
I agree. I wasn’t looking to go down that road. The Straw likes to tweak The Glider on Willie. That’s ok.
Either way, he’s gone, thankfully, let’s just all move on
Manuel to his players “Play good or i’ll cut you!”.
You had to throw in the word “thankfully.” You couldn’t have made your point without it, huh?
I just don’t think he was a good manager
You entitled to your opinion. But I thought you didn’t want to go there and we all should just concentrate on where we are today and where we’re going tomorrow.
If so, then just drop it.
You’re the one who brought up Willie
No I didn’t. Read the thread.
Uh oh, Delgado’s looking a little pull happy.
Phills up 3-0. Moyer is pitching a no-hitter through 3. Oooops. Did I just say that?
4-0 as Jenkins hits a HR.
I’m not loving this ump.
Wow, Dan Uggla is seriously an abortion
Ugla just hit into a double play with bases loaded none out: 4-2 Phillies…I guess teh All Star game carried over.
On 3 consecutive pitches, he hit into an inning ending DP, then made an error, then another error.
Ha Ha.
Ha-ha. Moyer lost his no hitter and shutout in the bottom of the 4th.
And we’re back to the contemporary era extremely low strike zone.
How is that scored a hit?
That’s an extremely difficult ball to come up with, and he didn’t have a play at 1st if he did.
So Wright has to get his footwork right enough to step on the bag as he picks it. Could have been an error, but very tough play.
Damn.
damn
damn
I like Maine. A lot. But he’s really not someone I like with bases loaded, especially once he gets behind in the count.
Oh-oh. This guy Phillips always seems to kill us.
Fudge
Sheesh.
Disgraceful
Dear God.
That sucks
Oh bother…
Starting pitching NOT starting the unofficial 2nd half very well.
Is Maine getting squeezed or is he still having control issues?
I haven’t loved the ump so far, but this is mostly on Maine.
How do you let a guy get to 2nd base there? Jesus.
I guess when you have a 10 game streak stuff like that is bound to happen
The law of averages can be rough.
Pitch count 104,457,921,754,163,334,765,843
Learn how to pitch Maine… thank God I held off on ordering that Maine jersey.
Maine throws too many pitches….watching him is absolutely excrutiating
Not to mention it can’t be good for his arm long-term. Maybe that’s why he fell off in the second half of last year so much. His arm was just tired.
Maine needs a serious out pitch. He gets two strikes and then batters just found off pitch after pitch after pitch. His offspeed stuff misses badly often so it seems like everyone goes 3-2 on this guy.
With his high heat, he needs to develop a spLitter, not a spitter as someone mentioned on this board. But something down in the zone, change the eye level. Watching him pitch is miserable.
Get the hoooooooook
What next?
GET HIM OUTTA THERE; HE STINKS
OH COME ON!
There’s a rule about this.
you HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE PITCH.
Seriously… he moved his arms into that pitch.
I am so disappointed in Maine, he has been my favorite Met pitcher for some time now, but I always knew that the wheels would eventually fall off. You simply can’t fool big league hitters for 2+ years with only 90 MPH fastball. Also, he throws WAY too many pitches.
High pitch counts lead to walks Johnny. Maybe he should learn a spitter to be his out pitch. No one probably looks for it anymore.
I thought it was banned or something?
Yes, but that didnt stop a few pitchers from using it. Keep it a secret.
Walks lead to high pitch counts
Maine can’t even get a pitch out close now?
Horrible performance by the starters these last two games against an abysmal team.
They’re not that bad, theyre about even with the Braves. They were even 7 games above .500 to start the series.
What the hell has happened to him? We’re giving the game away!
Well, I don’t know what to say, Maine is just bombing out this season.
I really though Maine was gonna come back this season and tear it up and hes just been sliding and sliding. Someone mentioned a while ago that hes statistically gotten much worse since the jacket is gone, can anyone here back that up?
i was thinking that, but i’m actually not so sure anymore.
baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=mainejo01&t=p&year=2008
peterson was fired june 17, so it looks like 3.87/.238 before he was fired and 4.33/.212 after. it sounds dumb but i could have sworn he LOOKS more than half a run/9 IP worse since the departure of the jacket, which, you know, not at all subjective!
John Maine has been a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT this year. He is lucky to go 5 in any start.
Maine stinks
Ranking the Mets starters right now:
1. Pelfrey
2. Perez
3. Santana
4. Maine
This is a joke right?
Santana has one bad start and he’s the 3rd best pitcher? Good thinking buddy.
Right now I have much more confidence with Pelfrey out there than I do Santana. Just sayin’
More like:
Santana
Pelfrey
Open spot
Open spot
Open spot
Yeah and Ollie is our 2nd best right now??? He’s coming off a 6 walk outing.
It has to be because two weeks ago this whole blog wanted to crucify Perez.
He means the way they’re pitching right now. This is subject to change at any point and doesn’t take into account their performance over an extended period.
Reyes needs to go to the Ichiro Suzuki School of Lead-off Hitting.
Who would have thought! I am sure that will change soon.
I’d take Perez in a must win game over Santana right now.
Agreed.
Im feeling this win streak come to an end.
Maine has got to rememer how to pitch. If not, you never know, he could be dealt.
Gary Cohen makes excuse after excuse. Just shut up already! He was so much better on radio.
Looks like this team will just have to rally again.
5-2, can the pen keep it close????
Looks like Maine left his testicles at home again. That’s the title of his 2008 season apparently.
He seems destined to back end rotation status at this rate.
Getting this freaking out, how much bullsht can happen in one inning?
Showy has to get this out…We fell behind 5-2 yesterday, to say we are out of this game at this point would be the dumbest thing you could ever say.
C’mon, Show $ the Pen need to hold them here & the bats will answer…
Hopefully good ollie shows up tomorrow. We’re going to need someone to eat some innings.
I completely agree… at this rate our bullpen will be burned in a week..we got the Sillies next.
The Reds are a strange team. At the beginning of the year, they were my sleeper playoff team.
Then I remembered they’re coached by Dusty Baker.
They have a very good offense. They haven’t really hit amazingly this year, but a good combination of veterans and young talent. Mostly young talent, but that’s not a bad thing.
Their rotation hasn’t been bad, especially when you consider how good Volquez has been. Cueto isn’t bad and should get better, Harang had a good third of the year, and Arroyo’s not terrible. I have no idea who their 5th starter is, and he’s probably terrible.
They have a good closer, if not a good pen.
This one’s not over yet, and I don’t want to sound like I’m making excuses or anything. But this Reds team really should be playing better than they are. Too bad for them that they have baseball’s worst manager.
Ridiculous fact of the day: The Reds have two walk-off homeruns hit on 0-2 counts after the batter fell behind trying to sac bunt.
That hiring made zero sense to me. For one, no offense to Baker, but I’m pretty sure he’s the last person I would want near a young talented team. Maybe an old team of players who basically no how to run themselves, but not players still developing.
I mean he wouldn’t make Votto a starter early the season because he walked too often and didn’t swing at enough pitches. Like he actually was quoted as saying he needed to swing at more pitches. And then he didn’t want Bruce called up because he has some sort of crazy man love for Patterson.
Maine is a big time concern. With Pedro’s problems, the Mets need an arm.
In spring training he kept his fastball down in the zone and he was getting so much more movement.
Freddy Garcia?
I’d be all for taking a look at Garcia.
Whatever’s going on with Maine, it’s obviously mental; he’s got a good fastball….he almost throew a wild pitch on a pitchout for crissakes!!!!….and i don’t think he can be converted into a 40 homerun-hitting centerfielder if he can’t keep his head straight….
Don’t forget David Wright’s wonderful defensive play on Keppinger. Yes, you can say it was a tough play, but this guy never makes that tough play.
You mean like the last out of last night?
Way to go Scott! Now let’s start chipping at the lead…
It’s weird how Jose Reyes is in an 0-fer and the Mets have been playing so well. I hope he finds his stroke again.
We can get to Arroyo. Let go Mets! I don’t the Cincy’s bullpen is that good (is it?).
Never mind.
Good closer, though he got roughed up last night. Bray is a good lefty, other than that, I don’t think they’re that great.
I do believe they still have David Weathers.
yeah…weathers pitched last night, the dude got really fat
How many f’ing times is Reyes going to pop up today?
0 for 8 in the second half
His swing is off when he’s hitting it in the air.
He could at least take a pitch, you know, maybe work the count?
Does anyone else find Arroyo’s leg kick and hair the most annoying thing???
Wow, what the heck is Reyes doing. He’s hit 6 short fly balls to the outfield this series. Was he watching tapes of his September from last year during the break?
Lets not lose to a$$clown Aroyyo again, lets go guys!
Even the Red announcers are raggin’ on Jose & his pop-ups…
Nothing is more frustrating than a seven pitch inning like that after a big half inning.
That half inning lasted under 3 minutes.
That was the weakest inning I’ve seen in a while.
john maine and fernando martinez for matt holliday
booooooooooooooo
boo you, i don’t see john maine in our playoff rotation and prospect outfielder for proven outfielder is an automatic decision
you dont see john maine in our playoff rotation?!?!?!
did game 6 of the NLCS not work for you when he pitched 6 innings of shutout baseball.
how about game 161 of last season, when the season was on the line, and he almost no hit the marlins???
you are crazy…maine is not going anywhere.
But you have no problem relying on crazy Perez injury prone Pedro, a guy who’s virtually a rookie and ????.
Really we need Maine and we need him to at least pitch like a solid number 3 pitcher the rest of the way.
i was at game six and he pitched great, but santana pelfrey perez are my top three and i’ll gladly have pedro as my fourth starter and matt holliday in left field for any playoff series.
That’s an interesting proposal. I’m not ready to give up on Maine. I think he’s still going to be a very very good pitcher in this league. We can get Nady for much cheaper.
I agree with you about Maine. But Nady will not come cheaply. The Pirates will make us overpay to get him.
looks like reyes is back to his old self. popup after popup.
well we may not win tonight…but im not ready to lose faith just yet…
tomorrows story: the last team in MLB to come 3 runs behind to win a game has now done it two games in a row.
wow somebody who’s not ready to jump off a bridge or trade/cut the entire team on metsblog?!!
I’m just as shocked as you, khmustache! The chatter on here during Mets games makes me laugh.
Maine is the only guy I don’t trust as a starter right now (Santana is getting closer but I’ll give him more time). I like our chances the rest of the weekend with Pelfrey and Perez going.
That makes a good poll question here……..Would you include Maine in a deal for Holliday? Realisitcally, Maine and F-Mart just might get that done…..I would have to do it……..other thoughts?????
No way. Never. Absolutely not.
No. No No No.
No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No.
Holliday just isn’t that good outside of Coors.
I wish he were. But he isn’t.
No.
IMO the only way we trade Maine is if for some reason we’re out of it and we’re getting a ridiculous package of prospects for him. We trade him and we’re looking at filling 3 rotation spots next year.
Who pitches for the Mets??? Relying on El Duque?? Pedro??? Claudio Vargas??
This 10 game streak is very nice. But it’s games like these that try my patience. There seems to be no approach at the plate… or maybe, the approach is “swing at everything.” The starting pitching was again awful. This is like April vs. the Braves all over again. They’re due a clunker every now and then… but games like this are frustrating, and the reason I was frustrated in April.
Man…trying not to get trampled as they jump off the bandwagon…
Not bandwagon at all, just realistic. I realize, you’re never as good as you look during the bad streaks, and never as good as you look during the good streaks. I just don’t get how this team goes from looking great at the plate to looking lost at the plate in 1 game. That’s what’s frustrating.
It’s called baseball dude. My God.
Good post. Intriguing points.
Please calm down. The Mets are fine. Don’t overanalyze this one game. Remember, it’s not even over yet.
in april these games were the majority of the time, not 10% of the time….just calm down will you.
Can we get Peterson back and just stick him in Maine’s locker? I feel like Maine didn’t, well, suck when Peterson was around, but if so, he was pretty much the only one.
it’s weird, everyone hates the jacket except maine and zito
because they throw too many pitches per inning and overanalyze every at bat just like peterson
I don’t know if his stats were skewed by earlier games in the season but Perez throws like .4 less pitches than Maine and Pelfrey throws like .8 less. Maine is second in the NL, Perez is 4th and Pelfrey is 6th. So it’s not just a Maine problem.
Here we go….SUPERMAN
trade tatis! haha
Haha! Good one. That comment seems about right here on MetsBlog.
Jeez…that 3-0 pitch was half a foot outside.
Not a foot but about half a foot.The beauty of baseball.
That one pitch might be the game. He walks Tatis and
hes outta there.
This ump loves Arroyo. Called a strike on Easley that pretty much bounced.
It sure was and the only reason Easley struck out was because he had to chase garbage off the outside corner because the Ump is calling strikes on balls 2 feet outside.
Yup..Makes it almost impossible to hit Arroyo for righties knowing that anything within a foot of the outside corner will be called a strike. He can just throw his slider out there with 2 strikes and they have to swing.
I hate watching on yahoo’s gamechannel. I refresh, it’s runners on first and third, 1 out, Tatis is up with 3 balls and 1 strike. I refresh again Scho is pitching. I mean can I get an explanation at least.
try msnbc…they have a pretty decent one
Also, the NYTimes scoreboard “log” is a nice text account of what’s going on.
i am a fan of espn gamecast. i like watching the balls fly around (that’s what she said)
Umpiring this year has been the worst I have ever seen it, not just against the Mets. Other games I have watched this year besides Mets have had bad umpiring in them.
100000% agree, instant replay wouldn’t even be discussed even 10 years ago. the umpiring has been a joke this year
You something else, replay MAY help with homerun calls but it is obviously not going to help with ball and strike calls which have also been the worst I have seen.
Before we go through with hanging Maine, let’s remember that he’s shown up huge for us in big games.
He was our best postseason starter in ‘06. And last year, in the second to last game of the year, he delivered one of the best starts in Mets’ history.
Yeah, but if he didn’t have so many bad second half starts last year maybe the second to last game of the year would have just been a playoff tuneup.
Definitely true. Just pointing out that he does come through in the big spots.
Okay, I’m tired of being positive. Did we seriously fail to bring in Beltran after a leadoff triple?
Maine sucks!!!!!!!
sucked
Dick Pole.
Just like I thought at the beginning of the year, this is a good Reds team.
Managed by an idiot.
I think everyone in here needs to step away from the ledge.
Don’t worry, I’m actually pretty positive with this team.
I’m just very, very negative when it comes to Dusty Baker.
I didn’t mean to reply to you. This comment system just hates me.
Understandable. Once we get over a couple hundred comments, things get pretty ugly.
HEY JOSE REYES………….WAKE UP…..THE BREAK IS OVER……YOU USUALLY WAIT TIL SEPTEMBER TO GO IN THE TANK
Dude, be quiet.
It’s been 9 at bats.
Seriously, I think everyone needs to calm down. It’s one bad game, coming off of a 10 win streak.
dude, 9 awful at bats with no approach, stop talking
You have no idea what his approach was.
Maybe it was “gee, this guy has good breaking stuff, I’ll swing at the first fastball I see.”
Dafatone, I understand your prior posts, and that it’s really not time to panic after one game. But, Reyes swung at 2nd pitch slider (1st inning), a 2nd pitch changeup (4th inning), a 2nd pitch slider (6th inning) and a first pitch fastball (8th inning). That is a pretty weak approach.
But the entire team has come out swinging early and often, perhaps that was the team-wide game plan?
Would be my guess.
Arroyo’s got great offspeed stuff, but hasn’t really had the success that should come with it.
Jose Reyes has seen a total of 7 pitches in 4 ABs.
You couldnt make it up,Reds ‘caster “that looks like it for
Arroyo,he just got a pat on the back and a big handshake
from Dick Pole”.
9 walks…dang
Ha, that missed somewhere for ball 4. It was outside but not nearly as bad as the calls Arroyo got.
Btw, I have said this lots of times but Dunn would be the most logical choice for us. Supposedly the Reds are not asking a lot for him and would come cheaper then Nady or Bay.
Well it would also give us a 1B option for next year.
I’m with you. Especially if Dunn comes cheaper than other options, let’s get him.
Alright, maybe Cordero blows 2 in a row.
I’m getting killed in fantasy ball this week. I have Francisco Cordero, and Maine.
Hopefully I suffer a little more here.
Perfect example why fantasy baseball is garbage.
Huh?
I was saying that hopefully I suffer in fantasy, and the Mets come back to win this.
Not knockin’ you but I can’t root for guys that dont
wear our uni..
Fair enough. I don’t root for them against the Mets.
I have Teixeira and Burrell this season, and feel very, very dirty.
The Phillies were recently working on a blockbuster with Colorado that would have netted them Brian Fuentes and Matt Holliday for something like Shane Victorino, J.A. Happ, Carlos Carrasco, and Lou Marson. Those talks have stalled, and the added payroll might’ve been a problem for the Phillies anyway.
Found this on mlbtraderumors, hopefully that does not happen.
I kind of hope it does. It would effectively destroy their farm system without improving their team very much.
I’d love to see them pull the trigger there.
I know Carrasco’s their best prospect. I don’t quite know about Happ. Marson is also a big prospect, and losing Victorino will hurt.
Their pen has been very good this year, and Fuentes isn’t going to have a huge impact. Holliday won’t do a ton for them. One of Burrell and Holliday will have to play in right, and that’s a pretty weak defensive OF with Werth in center.
That would actually improve their roster tremendously, Holliday in that lineup and ballpark would be devasting for us.
Eh, I’m still iffy on any Rockies player outside of Coors, even in a band box, it’s not the dimensions of Coors it’s the air. But regardless the Phillies offense is already great, the problem is they have horrible starting pitching, this trade wouldn’t fix anything. It would just rid them off a young highly regarded pitcher who could be in the rotation as soon as next year.
I really just don’t see Holliday having that huge an impact outside of Coors, even in Philly.
And Victorino is a TREMENDOUSLY underrated ballplayer.
He covers a ton of ground in center, can run, and isn’t bad with the bat.
I agree with Dafatone here. Victorino is awesome in CF defensively, and the upgrade at the plate may not offset the downgrade in the field. That deal would kill their minor league system as Gina said.
Then again, with all the fly-ball pitchers we trot out there, I think the Phils would match up better against us with Holliday… just not necessarily the rest of the league.
Trades not gonna happen after they got Blanton.
Not true. It could very well happen. Phillies needed to make a move to get a starter in the rotation. There are 3 prized prospects in the Phillies system, one of which includes Carlos Carrasco. The Phillies didnt give up one of them in the Blanton deal, they were lower level prospects and by all accounts 2-3 years away from being major league ready. They could move the “real” prospects including Carrasco for a bat. And Gillick has something to prove this year being his last year as GM……
Dont be surprised if the Phils make a move for Holliday
man, arroyo owns the mets
Phillies got the wrong pitcher
Oh no. The Mets lose. Let’s all jump to conclusions and say we are back to the “same old Mets.” If you would’ve told me back on July 4th that the Mets aren’t going to lose again until July 18, how many of us would have signed up for it?
OK! Back to the same old Mets.
And back to the same old comments?
RELEASE DELGADO!
BENCH CASTILLO!
FIRE WILLIE!
Oh wait…
Oh well. The streak is over. Turn the page. Start a new one tomorrow.
And here I thought the mets would end the season on a 60something game winning streak.
That’s it, abolish the season, tear down Citi Field. Let’s all give up.
It probably wouldnt be so bad but man does that guys hair piss me off.
Wow….Arroyo pitched like he was Johan Santana or something. And Johan Santana pitched like……er, well…….nevermind
Well, thank God that’s over! Nobody would listen to my negative posts when the damn team was winning every day. Finally…Reyes sucks! Wright sucks! Beltran sucks! Delgado sucks! The bench sucks! The starters suck! The bullpen sucks! Wagner sucks! & Manuel really sucks!
Now pay attention dammit! We lost a game…
Let’s go Mets!
I have less and less confidence in John Maine. . .I figured the time off would do him good, but no so far.
And obviously I don’t trust Perez yet (and anyone that does needs to look at his history) and then there is Pedro. So basically 3/5 of the rotation are semi-question marks in terms of innings they can give in a given outing. Which leads to an extremely tired bullpen and we’ve all seen what that can lead to.
Mets pitchers need to go at least 6 innings consistently, if not 7. With an occasional 8-9 inning outing for the Mets to be truly successful this season.
Today was not entirely on Maine. A big run of 2-out bad luck in the 5th did him in. If he catches the bunt, he goes 6 easy. If Wright makes the play on Keppinger, Maine gets into the 6th. It was not our night. Maine did fine.
And Phillip’s hit was a bloop that fell in. Not exactly a hard hit inning but he made his own trouble with the wildness.
Agreed. And the homer off Maine was a joke. Bruce flicked the bat at the ball, and it’s gone. Stupid stadium.
Maine was wild a bit, definitely needs to work on that.
Don’t recall a lot of complaints when DWright hit a HR that just barely went out the night before…
If, if, if…the problem is John Maine routinely throws 5+ pitches to every batter he faces.
Maine did not do fine, he is a weak link that taxes the bullpen heavily.
Mets starters since the break:
0-1 with a 8.80 ERA
And the second half is Santana’s “best”…..
i call “small sample size”
btw, are we done with Dick Pole jokes? Just asking. Last nite’s postgame thread was an instant classic.
LOL O JOTM
Take a cyanide capsule
Well, that’s how a .500 team goes. You win 10, you lose one.