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The Game:
The Mets (56-48) look to take the rubber game of their three-game series against the Cardinals (58-48) tonight at Shea, starting at 1:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- OF Endy Chavez
- 3B David Wright
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- OF Carlos Beltran
- OF Fernando Tatis
- 2B Damion Easley
- C Ramon Castro
- P Johan Santana
The Pitchers:
LHP Johan Santana (8-7, 3.05 ERA) starts for the Mets.
RHP Kyle Loshe (12–2, 3.35 ERA) starts for the Cardinals.
The Bleachers:
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…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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let’s go mets!
Is a well played game by both the offense and the bullpen in support of Santana too much to ask? Let’s get it done!!
LETS GO METS!!!
Go Mets! Get it done, Johan. BP needs a rest today….
Guessing same as last night – Tatis in LF, Endy in RF?
Just rebound from last night, forget about it; go out and get a good win.
LETS GO METS!!! GET IBANEZ OMAR!!
Endy’s the human proof of the law of diminishing returns. The more you see of his bat, the less you want to see.
And I know he hit around .300 in 2006, but he’s not a good 2-hole hitter. His OBP is relatively low and he doesn’t do enough damage to fastballs with Reyes on base to keep pitchers honest. (Last night’s 3 bagger aside, he also hit into 3 1-3 groundouts.)
beltran should hit in the 2 spot put tatis in the 5
i love carlos delgado
with the team that we have availible, this is our A lineup.
so lets do some damage.
I have a good feeling about beltran today!!!
go mets!!!
minus church of course
hence “with the team that we have available.”
you would ACTUALLY take carlos delgado at 1st over nick evans? are you kidding me?
r we playin this game?? it is a monsoon here on LI
from the radar it looks as if it will get played, as after the one storm coming through there is nothing behind it for a few states to the west
Wagner pitched 2 innings yesterday…is he available? I hope so…
Although a CG for Johan would shut up the critics from last week’s game. LET’S GO METS!!!
wagner, smith, heilman all not avail
Can this game be seen on TV??? who’s showing it?
cw11
someone please tell me i can watch this game. no mets or cardinals ?
cw 11
not in ny
nope, no broadcast today outside of NY or STL. i got the same problem here in OK
its on mlb extra innnings in california (TimeWarner)
IBANEZ 2B!! GET HIM OMAR
here we go bb already
NICE double play!!!
DP YES!!!
8 pitches nice
swung at ball 4
Ugh swinging at 3-0, as hot as Delgado has been, I hate that call.
stupid call because the guy on deck has the best numbers against loshe out of anybody
Plus you want to keep Lohse working, especially after last night
damn…3-0 dp.
killer there. it is always easy to say after the fact, but i am not the biggest fan of swinging 3-0. in that spot, first inning, i take the walk if it is there.
obviously.
that is the kicker, perhaps obvious to most of us, but not to the people that actually matter.
Yeah, most intelligent people would feel that way, but the Mets have been awfully charitable to pitchers the last couple of games.
I understand the call, up against a pitcher who doesn’t walk a lot of people with your hottest hitter up. The execution was just lacking.
not to mention the rain that may come shortly. i would feel better with a lead, even if it would be 1-0. it looks as if it could be nasty for a bit before it passes, perhaps killing them by making them take johan out.
Now 1 for 17 w/RISP
oh man, got to clean the slate after last nite. i don’t want to play that game, it may hurt too much. i will take 0-1 and hope it goes up from there.
watch beltran will drive one somewhere
Solid inning!!!
What’s the news on Church? When is his “expected” return?
That has to be decided to determine how aggressive we HAVE to be this week in trades. IF Church is expected to be back to normal then go get Winn. If not then I would try and get Huff. Of course I would also check in on Dunn. If he can be had for the same as the 2 draft picks then I would go for it. If he sucks he would still be an upgrade overall. It’s not like you HAVE to keep him next season. You can just get the draft picks back.
I think they said he needs like 8 minor league games, he should be back something like mid August. Though, I forgot the details.
From what I understand he’s been cleared to resume “light cardiovascular activities”. I remember someone posting in here about a week ago that team doctors really couldn’t agree on a timetable to expect him back. But IMO at this point I’m not holding my breathe.
Also according to mlbtraderumors we’ve shown no interest in Dunn. Which I don’t understand but w/e.
He just isn’t that good and will command a pretty big amount of prospects.
The way that Omar works then that maybe he IS the target then.
dunn is a loser with no heart and passion
Not starting this with you again. You have no proof of anything you say. We have became more ignorant just reading your post. Thank you for your time and may god have mercy on your soul.
i think i read here he is expected to be back in rehab for 6 games in the minors before returning to the club…..so, they won’t really know what to expect until after the deadline.
it is a tough spot, b/c if church can’t truly come back, then a deal has to be done, whereas if he does come back, perhaps a deal is not a do or die spot.
I hate the Phils, but the Cards are a close second. How the hell did the Mets blow the game last night? I realize that the umpires were completely incompetent, but they had SOO many chances.
man beltran can be 50/50 agaisnt a pitcher and take an 0 fer
Well when Beltran is cold, he is ice cold. Soon enough he will go on one of his extremely hot hot streaks.
i have been waiting……hopefully it will come soon and last for quite a while
I don’t mean to pick on Delgado, but in the first inning, MAKE HIM THROW YOU A STRIKE!! Why are you offering at a pitch that low on 3-0 with 2 on?
Agreed, Keith always says if you’re swinging 3-0 make sure its your pitch.
And he is exactly right. What another wasted opportunity.
exactly. i h8 swining 3-0 in general, but he is hot, so it is some what justified.
TATIS
automatic out now. risp
Not necessarily. They did get 8 runs in first 9 innings last night. Just couldn’t get that one across in extras…..
they did, but they were 1-16 with risp.
there you go. you called it. 0-2 (ok, ok, 1-18)…..but maybe johan can get hinself a run
hit one out Johan!
Now 1 for 19 with RISP
I’m getting really pi**ed here…
eh, you’re always pi**ed.
Over the last 2 days, I’m justified in that
No for like a day this week I remember him seeming downright positive.
1 for 18
Looks like Johan’s going another day without a win……..nah jk, but the offense has to seriously step it up. No excuses now that they’ve seen Lohse
Storm blowing in here on the Jersey shore. Heading for Queens?
Yup. Should be hitting Queens in about 30-45 minutes or so…
Luckily the heaviest rains are to the north and south of NY at the moment.
This teams fundamentals are really starting to irritate me. I fear they’re on their way back down.
And when does Beltran grace us with his precence?
i can hear the boos now, blanton gettin lit up
Joe Blanton already losing lol
this just in: blanton sucks, beane fleeces another gm.
beane seems he always knows when his players reached they talent adn strat to delcine so he gets the best of them. he is a smart guy lol
not going to play this game after that game yesterday. still, he he he
well, even if the phils end up winning, blanton still sucks. he’s going to get wrecked pitching in CBP.
LaRussa is an idiot. Hitting the pitcher 8th
How does that make him an idiot? Personally I think it would be a good idea for us to do, Reyes hits well with runners on and hits for pretty decent power, it would give him more rbi opportunities if we put someone who gets on base but can’t really do anything else like Castillo 8th. .
But the stats show that Pujols gets no more runners on in front of him with the pitcher in the 8th than if the pitcher was hitting 9th. Its a good theory, but it doesn’t apply to the game.
It’s not just about Pujols it’s about the hitters 1-4, for us , but the stats also show the Cardinals offense is better in every avg, slugging, obp, and runs scored per game, when they bat the pitcher 8th.
i get what he is doing and it seems to be hurting him more than helping, at least this series, but…..he has won a few thousand games more than me, so i am not going to call him an idiot.
That’s been a strategy he’s had all year. I don’t get it either.
let me know when u get a resume like him. okay?
24 pitches. CMON OFFENSE
It looks like we’re going to knock Lohse out early, hopefully their bullpen is shot.
How are we “going to knock him out early” when they can’t score on him
johan at 24 pitches through 3, lohse at 40 through 2.
Ah, pitchcount.
Sorry….gotcha now!
Nice hit Jose.
OH NO….ANOTHER RISP :(
Ok….2-20 but no RBI on the play ;)
cmon score here
i think he was out
Watch, they’ll reverse this call here….
screwed again? here it comes
i am shocked
Wow. Call stands. Good.
He was out, but that’s baseball. PLEASE GET A RUN HERE!
nice
We got a hit with RISP!!!
thank god, if they did not send endy first pitch i was goingn to freak
That has got to be the first time all year that we have gotten a break in one of those situations.
truly, it feels that way, especially the past few weeks or so
I’m so used to them over turning calls incorrectly, I thought for sure they would over turn that where it looked like he was out…
wright NEEDS a hit here, no grounder, sac fly……a HIT
of course, i would take the sac fly over nothing
How about a pop out…Ugh, we better get at least one here…
Oh for gods sake….David has maybe 3 big hits all year.
Damn. Couldn’t he have got that fly a little deeper?
Sigh….
O.K., Carlos will get it done here.
o my god please enoughuh here
Atta boy DW. You offer at pitches you have no business offering at, and you take pitches you should hack.
i won’t often rip on daivd, but are 100 spot on here
Don’t get me wrong, I love DW. And if he continues to improve he could go to the Hall of Fame. But his plate approach lately is driving me insane.
Wow, Wright.
Anyone else see a scoreless inning coming ?
are you kidding me? this is starting to really get annoying
what is keith talkin about?
LOL – I have no idea. Some kind of tennis analogy??
lol, so negative. C’mon Delgado
damn…should have been 2 runs there…oh well at least endy didn’t get caught, that would have been just great.
Only 1 run when you had 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs and your heart of the order up….what a disappointment.
That better?
lucky
whew. glad for the run, but man they need hits there. maybe carlos will start his hot streak here
sac fly works
Every run counts. I’ll take it, even if an out go along with it. In the old days, that would have been a ground out or K for Delgado…
Beltran shows up HOORAY
Take that
F’n aguayo he was dead
Wos. Beltran comes though.
And man did Endy get lucky there……
man, i thought he was gunned…..great job carlos!!!!!!
BelTRON!
bel-TRON! cards can’t hold onto the ball.
BTW is it just me or is Endy not that fast. He doesn’t really steal and he just doesn’t seem that fast
He isn’t. His speed is very overrated.
I’d have to agree. Good throw and he’s out.
i think he definitely has better than average speed, but the fact that he always seems to take the best route to the ball in the OF makes him look like he’s fast.
yes!!!!!!!
Endy must have some type of magic dust considering he should have been out 3 times. LOL.
Payback for all those outs at the plate the other day
Did you just hear that stat on Tatis? 16 for 36 with two strikes on him in the month of July? Damn, that’s good.
thats what david wright did in 06 seems like wright lost that pop now.
lohse is gonna be out by the fifth.
Damn, I thought he got into that one
There’s a 2-0 lead.
Johan, the gauntlet is thrown.
HOLD THAT LEAD
johan has 2 hold it
hes got an edge baby
Nasty storm right over us here on the Jersey shore right now. Maybe it will stall and stay here until we get through the top of the fifth, 2 runs up – lol.
Of course, I’ll probably be losing power very shortly which always happens during these storms and miss the rest of the game…..
might be moving towards you. we had a storm this morning in bklyn.
We have a deluge of biblical proportions here in DC. Get to the 5th, call it official.
Love the quick innings, Santana!!
johan is goin 9 tonight
Is he going to DEMAND nine?
Does a rain shortened, you know what still count?
They get through the top of the fifth, with the home team in the lead – and the game is called on account of rain (rain delay goes on and on so they call it), it’s an official game.
huge storm here last hour on LI. massive rain
Johan looking sharp today. 33 pitches. He knows the BP needs the day off – lol…..
I guess Santana decided his pitch count better be way under 100 by the 9th if he actually wants to get a W.
Johan looking hell of sharp.
Big reason why we don’t want to see a rain delay here.
rain delay at the bank
That’s why I wouldn’t get Dunn, we already get guys on based with walks. We need someone to drive them in, which Dunn doesn’t do
Driving runners in isn’t a skill set. Have you seen Dunn’s slugging percentage? If someone gets on base in front of him he’s perfectly capable of driving them.
Just give it up Gina. We can both just hope quietly. Some fans are just too hung up on old stats and can not understand OPS.
I understand OPS, but I’m looking at BA with RISP. All OPS means is that he walks or when he does get hits with RISP they’re double or HR’s. You still have to look at the BA.
Depending on what spot in the lineup you are hitting. His batting average with RISP is actually higher than his normal average.
Thats not saying much though.
33 pitches in 4 innings!! Wow someone has to put a gag order on Gary cohen
Lookin’ like a decent chance that the heaviest rain cells will miss NYC to the north and south. Things can change quick, but that’s the way it looks at the moment. There will definitely be some rain, though.
get through this inning with the lead johan
Anyone doubting that Santana wasn’t an Ace, please stop talking about baseball. You obviously know nothing about it.
Here we are, top of the fifth. If Santana can get three outs and no runs………how’s the weather looking?
Storm still on top of us here on the Jersey shore.
Rain delay in Philly right now.
OH BOY…..
awwwwwwwwwww darn
now we can talk about it – damn it’s never gonna happen.
Someday, someday…..
If anyone on this staff did it I think it would be Perez.
Of course he’d probably walk 12 batters and end up losing anyway.
lol – that would be a possibility with Oliver….
Does it bother anyone else that Johan can’t seem to get ground balls?
He got a pretty big one in the first inning, the only other time there was anyone on base…
He’s known for being a flyball pitcher isn’t he? And he’s actually getting a much higher percentage of ground balls this year than he has in his last few seasons.
he is a fly ball pitcheer
True enough everyone, ground balls are just better on my nerves, that’s all.
Did WPIX just lose signal for 2 minutes for anyone?
High Def did for me, but not regular channel 11.
Yes, bit only lost it on their HD station, not on their regular, non HD station.
‘And we know have an official game at Shea’….
*now
Only 49 pitches for Johan through 5.
It really wouldn’t bother me if this game got called because of rain. After last night’s marathon I would rather see the team catch an early flight to Florida.
So JReyes did get married two days ago. Contrats.
Maybe she’ll be a good influence on him and he’ll be a bit more steady in the field…..
Extremely unlikely the game will be called. Delayed, yes, but not called.
DWright! Woo-Hoo !!!!!!!!!!
All that stuff I said about plate approach….nice tater DW.
DAVID!!!!!!
DWRIGHT!!!!!!!!!
Delgado you’re driving me crazy man, COME ON!!
how dare you carlos no hr 2day
i hope delgado hasent lost his touch. hes starting to swing at balls he wasnt swinigng at
I’m starting to think he’s a bit tired. I would consider pulling him later on if the lead holds up. He’s getting his mojo back but we can’t forget he’s 36 or 37 years old.
yeah u want to give him a break but u dont.
ibanez 2-3 today agasint shaun marcum
would you guys take ibanez and vidro’s contract of 8 million next year and cut marlon anderson cause vidro is better
NO!!!
NO.
For a guy that does not want Dunn you want Vidro? Have you seen his numbers? 8 million. That’s a millon dollars a hit.
he has a hr 2day and is better than marlon
Hey go check out Ibanez numbers with RISP2/Out. His average is lower than Dunn’s. LOL. Obviously Ibanez has no heart. Hey maybe if you add Ibanez and Vidro’s numbers together you could get the production of Dunn.
Besides do you not understand money at all? What are you going to do with Vidro next season? Release him? Anderson is signed for next year to. You going to cut him too? So that means that you will waste 10 million dollars for 2 months of Ibanez. You my friend are a genius.
u kidding me. maybe if video was 7 years younger
Santana continues to impress me this year. I have no idea why so many of you are down him so much. He really didn’t have games where he gave up more then 4 runs.
Most of the people who are down on him are down on him because he hasn’t been as dominant as he was in Minnesota. And we thought that’s the pitcher we were getting.
exactly. that said, i am still more than pleased with him overall.
I think he is like 2nd in the NL in quality starts this season.
See what I mean about this fly ball outs. I know it was an out and that’s great, but my heart just jumped into my throat.
Johan, go 9 if there isn’t a rain delay. That way everyone won’t complain and bash you for going 8.
ok everyone lets all jump on johans back and ride him to 9 innings. hopefully he can prove he can go 9 strong and no setbacks.
LETS GO JOHAN!!!!!!!!
This rain needs to hold off for another hour.
why does it have to rain? they are breezing, johan is looking great…blast. this could be that complete game shutout that the mets needed.
i wouldn’t mind having them nice and rested so they can push back the Marlins for good on Monday.
i am for that , i would just hate for a long delay and to have to come back out. perhaps now with a big lead the umpires, will, maybe be a little more likely to call it.
TATIS !!!!!!!
TATISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I’m going to be very upset if they get Winn to replace Tatis…
we dont need no stinkin coner outfielder!
yes, church is not reliable and omar has to get IBANEZ
No, Ibanez has no heart. His Batting Average with RISP2/outs is only .233. That’s WAY to low. He is a loser with no heart.
yeah u do if church can not perform. endy will not be a good replacement
pack on the runs baby
TATISED!!!!!
Johan has to be sitting in the dug out thinking FINALLY!
“Adios Amigo!” LOL. Love Keith.
So, do we still need to get another outfielder?
i really dont mind tatis one bit
Tatis rules
And those 2 strikes hit just keep on coming….
When will it be official that the analysts give up on Tatis being lighting in a bottle??????
I want another reliever
BLASTRO!!!!!!!!
Like it!
Ramon is the MAN!
Just gotta love these ‘bench’ players !!
Game over baby, where is that stupid Philly fan.
He went home crying to his mommy.
hes too busy thinking wow. we can choke too.
Oh baby!
Bloop, Blast. Bloop Blast! I LOVE IT!!
if he is healthy and gets 500 ab’s castro can get like 60 homeruns lol.. just speculating with his stats now
Super bench players!
Pour it on!
PS: Here comes the rain…
cant watch it unfortunately is it raining at shea? if so, how bad?
Please let Johan throw a complete game today… (assuming it doesn’t rain)
Bada bing, bada boom.
im watching it online you guys see it faster then I do
Corner OF, what corner OF! There is no one we can trade for that would be better than Tatis right nwo, no one! Come back Church, we’ll be all set.
Tatis is earning it, plain and simple. The problem is we won’t know about Church until after the deadline. What to do?
church is not reliable. i cant stress it enough
Hopefully this will be enough run support for Johan! :D
Let’s hope so. Nine more outs.
MONSOON OF RAIN HERE ON LI
Here in Philly too.
Do you think Nady will be a difference maker for the Yankees?
pre allstar yeah post no. he tanks and plus he had a hot april but only batted .264 for us
No – they will win or lose on their pitching (I still think lose, but I think that every year).
It’s Xavier Nady…nice player, but this is a team with ARod. Nady is going to be the difference-maker?
he will help, but i think he has been somewhat over rated as of late. he kills lefties, but his numbers against righties are not as good. that said, i liked him while he was here and would not have minded him coming back.
No, but it’s still a good trade for them, they can resign him next year to either play in the of or 1b.
starting to storm about an hour north of the bronx
castro hits a hr every johan start. its official
Would have been nice to get him, but not by giving away anything major
Jeeze, what is Johan doing there? Looks like he thought it was foul.
ok. joan lol he thoguht he crushed that
Everyone gets at least a hit today!
Woo-hoo !!
except for Delgado…
True. But wasn’t he o for 3 the other night before he hit that game winning double that scored two?
And on that note, Carlos just smacked a single!
Gary is making a big deal of Santana’s hit. I don’t care. I rather he think it foul and then have to jog to 1st than running hard to 2nd and pulling something.
Marriage agrees with Jose
So far so good – I’m surprised his wife let’s him play the field though.
6 straight hits, wow. None out still…keep it going. Sucks that it’s gonna rain….this has CG shutout written all over it…damn
BENCH JOHAN!! HE DIDN’T RUN!! lol
Come on Endy keep it going.
Great baserunning by Johan. Turns a double into a single….good job Primadonna
There she is!
go home
I hear Joe Blanton is not well liked in the Philly Clubhouse. He’s eating all the food. Charlie Manuel is especially pissed.
Are you serious? It’s 7-0 and he is the ace of the staff. No you’re right, better he leg out a triple.
Odds were it was foul or gone. Barely missed being either. Relax.
Just glad to pad the league since a rain delay probably pulls Santana.
That’s the best you can come up with?
My sympathies to you, pal.
Are you serious? Have you notice what has been happening when the Cards have been batting?
about time. where you been?
ready to eat crow about that complete game comment you made last night?
still……………where is your id from a phillies blog?
can some1 tell me if it is raining hard or any at shea?
Hasn’t started raining at Shea – yet…..
He’s a pitcher cut him some slack
plus he ends up scoring anyhow
IF THE THIRD BASE COACH SENT HIM……..
That was all Jose. Dumb move. Should be 9-0 right now.
why didn’t Wright break for 2nd when Jose broke for home?
wtf was that
Good question.
Mets really turning it on now.
IBANEZ 3 HITS!!! GET HIM NOW OMAR!!!
to bad he didnt go 0-4 with 4 k’s lower is stock a lil
Nah, he has no heart. He can’t hit with RISP. He has a .233 BARISP2/O.
NOW everyone has a hit! Nice!
reyes always makes a base runnig blunder
Not a blunder at all….a very good chance to take with a big lead. Took a very good play to get him.
Have you noticed how well Reyes has played the last couple of months?
Doubles, triples, homers, RBI from the leadoff spot and runs scored are all very valuable in baseball games.
What do you guys think Huff would cost? He is signed through next season. I know he is LH but with Tatis hitting that’s ok. Huff could fill in for Church until he gets back and then split time with Tatis in LF. Then once September gets here he would be very valuable in that he can play 3B and 1B too.
Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Tatis, Huff, Easley, Castro/Schneider
That would still be a tough lineup up even without Church.
huff is a stud. u c his #’s this year
Your asking me, the king of stats, if I have seen a guy’s numbers or not?
He would fit in perfect here and would be a good solution to LF next year until Fmart is ready.
NIne more outs, no runs, nine more outs.
endy cant play everyday. he is not a good hitter. he is a 4th or 5th OF
It’s about to start raining, rain delay coming up boys.
For anyone watching the game on TV, is it raining at Shea yet?
Oh, Man, did you see that????
Carlos is just the best there is in CF…..
test
I don’t think Reyes takes that chance in a close game
nice catch
OMG!!! BELTRAN!!
In all seriousness I think Beltran is the best defensive CF in the game
By far
Beltran isnt even the best CF on the Mutts let alone the NL. Chavez is a better defensive CF
Chavez can make the big play but he is not as consistant as Beltran. Why am I arguing with a Phillies fan on Metsblog?
Uh, whatever, dude.
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
now you are just proving your ignorance. maybe if you keep watching mets games and checking on their blogs you will learn this.
yes! that was sweet. takes me back to every kris benson start
lol looks like santana did a white power thing
just saw it no fair
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WHAT A CATCH.
edit: usual hr off johan
santana should be 8-2
Even watching on Gameday, I could tell that would’ve required a nice catch…was it at the wall? Did he rob him of a HR?
Oh it robbed a HR alright.
Yes, his glove was on the other side of the wall.
Very nice, thanks for the info
O.K. – anyone think maybe running those base paths for Johan tired him out some?
I knew that was gone when it left that bat. Please 8 more outs, no more runs.
g’dammit pujols…that wasn’t very nice
wooooooooooow what a play
Robbed him for sure
i hate winnie the poo. it was all jynxed yesturday with the comments on how long pujols had hit a hr
If omar gets ibanez here, this team will win this division going away
eh…I like Ibanez but I wouldn’t overpay for him.
plus we’d be very lefty heavy once Church comes back
agreed, if the price isn’t too high.
What in the world is your hard on for Ibanez. He is an average player at best. I want an OF but if they are going to have a 2 draft pick price for Ibanez then I would rather go for a salary dump guy.
Nice pitch
Johan only at around 80 pitches, Lets get a CG
Why do we need Ibanez? Tatis has not come back to earth as many expected and keeps getting clutch hits. As long as Church is coming back, We are in good shape in the outfield.
I agree. If Church comes back and can play for the rest of the season, then I don’t see a need to get an OF. It would be nice to know something more concrete about Church heading into the trade deadline though…
Well to play devil’s advocate, Tatis will eventually come back to earth. I mean he was out of baseball a while ago. I would get some kind of insurance, maybe not Ibanez but some kind of everyday OF.
I agree with this for the simple fact that Church is a big unknown and with using our bench to play the corner OF, that leaves us with not much of a bench. I.E. Marlon lately…..
yes and no. tatis may come back to earth, and if he does, the mets are stuck. as for church, they can’t be really sure if/when he will come back and be “normal.” if he does, then they are surly in better shape, but if he does with ibanez, then the mets are an even better team while still having tatis.
as long as they can make a good deal i am for it. i don’t want to see them overpay though.
Johan needs to stop giving up Hr’s
We’re going against Nolasco, Olson, and Johnson in Florida? That’s the rotation we thought they’d b e sending out two years ago.
I miss Mark Hendrickson already.
Get a reliever!
I think I see rain drops…
Ibanez kills lefties. AND IF I HEAR SOME1 ELSE SAY CHURCH IS COMING BACK I WILL BE ANNOYED MORE!! HE IS NOT RELIABLE
Ibanez’s career numbers vs. LHP .265 with a .725 OPS. That’s some numbers right there.
Look he is an ok player but they are wanting 2 good prospects for him as they are trying to say he will be a type A FA. That’s too much for 2 months of Ibanez.
How about Ben Francisco from the Indians? They seem to be in a dealing mode.
We don’t need a starter
For those of you who were asking – now they’ve got light rain coming down at Shea.
how bout we get ryan braun. this guy is goin to the HOF. he is sick. i just got him last week on my fantasy team a and gave utley and joba and upton
This is ridiculous with the 2 strike hits.
I agree with getting a reliever, and to be specific, Huston Street…
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY HE’S OVERRATED HE’S ONLY 24!!!!!
Tatis! Doesn’t look like he’s losing any ‘edge’ here…..
jacobs 2hr 5 rbi 5-0 fish
We should trade for Jacobs…j/k
Bat Santana in the 2 hole
So?
Crazy!
I just feel are pen is shaky at times.. see Friday night
RYAN BRUAN?????????????????????? LOL
he has eyes like victorino so no
As we speak, Tatis just got his 3rd extra base hit today. I agree with Orlandomets fan that a reliever is more of a priority now.
wow the heavy rain cells are really dying down and avoiding NYC. Looks like today’s weather may be a Mets fan. ‘Preciate it.
update about bay he is batting with runner on 1st adn second
Still raining in Philly?
according to the radar, yes. but it will clear up there before too long.
I believe they’re still in a rain delay.
Nice hitting, Johan!
Guys:
George Sherril or Huston Street?
sherill def u c him in the asg
Street. I actually think at this point, even with Beane, he will be cheaper.
Street, he is still so young.
I feel that la russa is mean for abusing this kids mental capacity
Think what Santanas record would be if he had a better pen supporting him
hmm…what does everyone think about the NL MVP. Still a while away but I can’t really think about a frontrunner…would they really give it to Howard?
Fernando Tatis = MVP
kidding, of course…
or am I???
depending on where the fish end up, they’ll probably give it to hanley…just no more phillies
past years it seems. it is only deiced in the last week of the season. u can bat ,100 and they bat 900 the final week and win mvp lol
George Sherril looked nasty in the all star game but I don’t really know his stuff
bay sucks. ibanez is way more clutch
Are you Ibanez or his agent. I hope you are his agent as I would feel strange with him actually posting on here.
Right now I am more concerned with the Marlins than the Phillies. They are getting those great young pitchers back now.
Yup. I agree with this. Unless the Phillies make some multiple moves, they’re not staying in this race much longer.
The Marlins have a lot of problems though. Bad fielding, bad pitching. They basically hit a ton of HRs and somehow win.
Sherril was CLUTCH in the ASG I’ll give him that
washburn really uppped his ratings tody
Seventeen hits! Snatana must be so happy
good, got santana off the bases. Nice r’bie Santana!
Tatis should start left hands down…
GREG MADDUX??
Who is that old guy who pitches for the Padres and wants to go back to Atlanta and play golf with his buddies?
Think anyone will get Fuentes from the Rockies?
Depends on if the Rox start to win.
i dont think they selling.b the west is awfu;
Anyone know how El Duque is doing – he would be a great option for our pen right now.
Maddux is not needed, not when we are limited to what we have to trade, plus he doesn’t want to come east
wow just watched the video replay of Beltran’s catch. wow! gave me goosebumps, that was amazing. Best CF in the biz, y’all!
Cards will get Fuentes
do they have a deep farm system?
The Cardinals, no. About all they have is Colby Rasmus.
Is it safe to say Santana officially became a Met today?
I think with the premium on relievers if the Rox decide to move Fuentes, they’d ask for Rasmus form the Cards which would be a bad deal.
DP and Santana may get complete game
good question Orlandometsfan Idk
ughhh almost
they walked ibanez intentinally
Oh, nice catch, Tatis. That was just some bad luck there w/ not being able to keep it in the glove.
That was a catch – it came out after it was in his glove for a solid 3-4 seconds
there is no time in the glove for it to be considered a catch its if the player has control of himself and has the ability to transfer the ball to his throwing hand…amazing play by tatis but not a catch
Wow that was close
I would have liked to get Anthony Reyes from the Cards, but they moved him.
y? i only know of on e good strat w/ him. that one hitter he lost lol. poor guy. how she thorw?
His minor league numbers were really good and he is still young.
Just what this team needs, another Reyes. :D
weather is looking ok. just light rain.
That should be ruled a catch. I know the rules specify differently but he had that.
the rockies aint dealin any1 so stop with fuentes and holliday. u c how hot they are and their sked is easy. their offense is scary and they r gettin francis back with cook and jimenez.
fracnis sucks lol
francis was bad early cause he was hurt, but last yr he was dominant
Do you speak English? I need a translator. Are you texting in your post?
95 pitches so he wont complete the game
now would be somewhat ok to take him out if he was over 110 pitchers.
I think Santana will go out there in the 9th
alright! 99 pitches for Johan. surely he starts the 9th after what the bullpen went thru last night, right?
Get someone warming up, but you have to let him at least start the ninth.
I would hope but will see
does anyone else feel the 1st complete game this year? its so close i can taste it
The mets will def add a player or 2 of importance by thrusday or by aug 31
I’d like to see him at least start the ninth
Why is Omar even worrying about left in the first place? Theyre scoring a ton of runs from what they have… It’s been the bullpen thats been keeping them from winning 20 games in a row thats it
Maybe he is looking to do both. I would assume that is ok, right?
b/c what about right? church is not definite. and chave is well chavez lol. we still need a of and reliver
But how long can Tatis and Endy keep this up? Its not reasonable to believe they can keep it up. It would be great if they could but I just don’t see it happening. Our relievers are pretty solid, they’re just in a bad funk.
It’s not reasonable that they’ll keep it up but the players that we could realistically trade for aren’t likely to give us much more offensive production than they would, well Ibanez might but he’s a defensive liability which we don’t need in a pitchers park with a bunch of fly ball pitchers.
Let the new guy pitch the 9th. Hopefully things won’t get out of hand.
will collizo. he sucked last year.
Thats what Im screaming
I know it’s crazy
What about a salary dump trade for the O’s.
Bradford, Huff and Payton for cash and prospects.
markakis. one of the best young of’s in the game
He sure is, we could get him and Pujos maybe.
Get a reliever first outfielder second
I guess they could somehow manage a package, and trust me guys Church will be FINE
only thing w/ church he is like a 270 carear hitter. so what we saw could have been a fluke
Are you a neurologists? Team doctors don’t even know if he’ll be fine but we should trust you?
And Metsfan1989 is right, there is a chance that it was a fluke, he really didn’t have enough at bats to determine one way or another.
Is it still raining in Philly?
Still in a rain delay.
santana into the 9th after the entire bullpen gets used the night before. can we all please show this guy some love now?
bradford useless, payton useless, huff very good not as good as ibanez
LOL. Huff is not as good as Ibanez. I am going to let you try and prove that one. That’s great.
No arguement on Payton. He is more than useless but I am sure the O’s would love to get rid of him.
Bradford has a 2.63 ERA. He would be fine. He is sidearm but still a different look than Smith.
O.K., Johan. Get 3 outs here. He’s looked sharp all day so I’m thinking – no problem.
Yes!
Go gettum Santana!!!
come no rain delay now.
Guys this should be our tops for the trade deadline:
1. Huston Street
2. George Sherril
3. Adam Dunn
4. Raul Ibanez
5. Jason Bay
4/5 of those guys we’d probably need to give up FMart.
I only see 2 of those that would require Fmart based on predictions.
Bay and Sherrill.
Street, Beane will want Kunz and Niese.
Dunn, Reds will want Niese and a AA guy like Evans.
Ibanez, M’s want the same as 2 draft picks.
I think they would want a lot for Street, he is a 24 year old closer that you really don’t have to trade. The Reds would probably also play up Dunn’s 40 HR ability.
I am sure they both would try that. However, I still don’t see them getting those type of players. Street’s value is lower than normal and Dunn does not have as much of a market with Big Poppy back and Nady going to the Yankees.
I would move Bay ahead of Ibanez and throw in Huff but other than that you are dead on.
manny ramirez. jk ha ha
Why isn’t Randy Winn on your list?
I don’t know Street well, but I like the idea of trading for young guys
guy is killing me. we need 3 outs come on johan. i think 1 more runner and hes toast
Double play please!!
hes getting hit hard
1 down
Street is only 24 years old, has had some injury prob but thats normal for A’s and young guys, and he has a wicked 2 seamer
blows a bunch of saves
He would be a setup man here and MUCH more reliable than Sanchez right now.
I agree he’d be a great set-up man, but are the a’s going to trade him for the value of an 8th inning guy or a closer.
Closer of course. Again, I would trade Niese, Evans and a single A prospect for him. Or Parnell, Carp, etc.
Just no Fmart.
9-1 lets stay calm
say thank you very much to aaron miles. he bailed you on that one
I don’t want to see another ALou type pick up
Yes!. One more, Johan.
Clearing up a bit here in Philly.
Now Manuel keeps Santana in with an 8 run lead? If that’s not an admission of guilt, I don’t know what is. Manuel must read Santana’s “body language” differently today.
Deer in the headlights
Umm clasuea
BECAUSE RANDY WINN SUCKS
Re Reyes baserunning mistake, why didn’t Wright break for 2nd when Reyes broke for home?
where u watching the game. that happened like 2 ohurs ago
Watching the game paused with the DVR.
GAME
Game Over! Great pitching by Johan. The boys got him some run support. He’s got to be thinking ‘FINALLY’ !!
Just a great game !!!!!!!!!!!
PUT THIS ONE IN THE BOOKS!!!!! FIRST CG OF THE YEAR. CONGRATS JOHAN. LETS SHOW THOSE FISH WHO BELONGS IN FIRST.
LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just saw it Nice!
Hey great idea leaving Santana to complete the game. Manuel’s a genius. No one would have ever thought to do THAT!
GO SANTANA! OFFICIALLY A MET!
Now all I need today is a bullpen move..
Awesome job Johan…did exactly what you needed to do!!!
YESSSSSSSS!
Series Win!
First Mets CG!
Johan and the offense were awesome!
Whatta game!
I know there have been a couple of times we wished Johan had pitched a complete game but this really is a nice spot to have the first one. The bullpen really needed this. Got to win the series against the Marlins. But for today great win. LETS GO METS!!
Time to cook some Fish!!
Nice…Congrats Johan and the Mets!
therealsince1986, absolutley hit the nail on the head…
And in the future when Wags retires he can be more mature as the closer
Yup I would trade Niese and a couple of AA prospects not named Fmart for him.
I would trade anybody not named FMart because theyre not all that great anyway
Besides, who cares if we trade Niese? Our system is already shot
The reason people don’t want to trade Niese is because we’ll likely have two spots to fill in the rotation next year and the free agent class is kind of underwhelming. Plus it would be nice to have starting pitching depth so we don’t have to rely on the Brandon Knights and Claudio Vargases of the world for spot starts.
At first I agreed with this sentiment but I’m kind of wavering now. I’d have no problem trading him, if it’s for a player that will fill a need past this year, whether we have to resign him or he’s already under contract.
Hey, wait a minute. This class is not underwhelming at all.
CC
Sheets
Perez
Garland
Lowe
Burnett
Dempster
Wolf
It’s top heavy but not underwhelming at all. In fact, it’s the best one we have seen in years.
Underwhelming probably wasn’t the right word. I mean most of the guys on that list come with red flags. Burnett and Sheets are serious injury risks and Burnett is struggling mightily this year. CC I think is pretty much out of the question I just don’t see the front office giving out another huge contract to to a pitcher, especially one with the decline/injury risk he has with his shape. Wolf has been mediocre. And Dempster is sort of a wild card. I guess it would depend on the deal.
I would love for them to bring back Perez and/or sign Garland. With Lowe it would depend on the length of the deal.
Chris Russo: Johan…how can you give up a HR to ALBERT PUJOLS??? I mean…c’mon…..you have a shutout on the line. GET THIS GUY OUT!!!! I tell you…..Johan Santana….is not a PATCH…..on Tim Lincecum’s..fanny………you can’t argue that Met fans.
cubbies bounced back it’s 5-5 now
Go Cubs!
Hey, where did Church4prez go? I was waiting for his explanation of how Ibanez is better than Huff. I guess he is still looking up the stats for that one.
Why does Church4prez always rip on Church when his username has Church in it?