Comments on: Health: Maine will have MRI on Stiff Shoulder http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:41:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MH http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274380 MH Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:55:53 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274380 I meant to say "IT should be a high percentage move..." I meant to say “IT should be a high percentage move…”

]]> By: MH http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274377 MH Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:54:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274377 @hjhjhjh At the time, I too wanted Santana to stay in to at least start the ninth. But I cannot fault either Manuel's faith in the bullpen's ability to get 3 outs before giving up 3 runs nor the idea that they are saving Santana wear and tear so that he is fresh in September and October. I think Manuel and Warthen are managing for the season not just individual games. The decision backfired as concerned that game. I can't blame Manuel for saying he'd make the same move again...I should be a high percentage move if you have any bullpen at all. @hjhjhjh At the time, I too wanted Santana to stay in to at least start the ninth. But I cannot fault either Manuel’s faith in the bullpen’s ability to get 3 outs before giving up 3 runs nor the idea that they are saving Santana wear and tear so that he is fresh in September and October. I think Manuel and Warthen are managing for the season not just individual games. The decision backfired as concerned that game. I can’t blame Manuel for saying he’d make the same move again…I should be a high percentage move if you have any bullpen at all.

]]> By: hjhjhjhjhj http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274327 hjhjhjhjhj Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:29:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274327 i agree with your assesment of the Maine situation...but im going to have disagree with santana...that game against philly was the BIGGEST game of the year up that point....for the team and for santana....he should have at the very least gone out there to start the 9th (especially since we didnt have wagner)....but it worked out in that series and i believe he made up for it in his next start.... LGM and let hope maine is healthy i agree with your assesment of the Maine situation…but im going to have disagree with santana…that game against philly was the BIGGEST game of the year up that point….for the team and for santana….he should have at the very least gone out there to start the 9th (especially since we didnt have wagner)….but it worked out in that series and i believe he made up for it in his next start….

LGM and let hope maine is healthy

]]> By: hjhjhjhjhj http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274318 hjhjhjhjhj Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:23:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274318 ok...sorry he's not a "CY Young" guy...but he is pretty damn important to this team...and by the way was going for his 10th win of th season last night....not bad for a number 3 guy in a rotation.... ok…sorry he’s not a “CY Young” guy…but he is pretty damn important to this team…and by the way was going for his 10th win of th season last night….not bad for a number 3 guy in a rotation….

]]> By: MH http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274227 MH Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:41:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274227 Manuel and Warthen gave very good explanations as to why Maine was removed. Maine was changing his delivery to avoid triggering the pain--was not coming over the top. He was putting strain on his shoulder and arm by doing so. They wanted to make sure he not only did not exacerbate the current problem but didn't compound it with new injuries. That's smart, not "overprotective." As for pulling Santana after the eighth a couple of games back, they were managing in light of his history at Minnisota and with faith that the bullpen could get 3 outs before giving up three runs. This bullpen had had a streak of several innings without giving up a run not so long ago so you can't really fault them for that---except with 20/20 hindsight. Manuel and Warthen gave very good explanations as to why Maine was removed. Maine was changing his delivery to avoid triggering the pain–was not coming over the top. He was putting strain on his shoulder and arm by doing so. They wanted to make sure he not only did not exacerbate the current problem but didn’t compound it with new injuries. That’s smart, not “overprotective.”

As for pulling Santana after the eighth a couple of games back, they were managing in light of his history at Minnisota and with faith that the bullpen could get 3 outs before giving up three runs. This bullpen had had a streak of several innings without giving up a run not so long ago so you can’t really fault them for that—except with 20/20 hindsight.

]]> By: krispy644 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274177 krispy644 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:03:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274177 the difference between Santana and the rest of them (Maine and Pedro)....SANTANA WAS HEALTHY!! Maine and Pedro seem to be dealing with injuries?? another thing. Manuel's "OVERPROTECTION" seemed to pay off with Reyes and Santana. Santana saved the bullpen from being overused and Reyes went back to playing like he was capable of. (remember Manuel took him out in Anaheim after Reyes said he had minor cramp in his hamstring) the difference between Santana and the rest of them (Maine and Pedro)….SANTANA WAS HEALTHY!! Maine and Pedro seem to be dealing with injuries??

another thing. Manuel’s “OVERPROTECTION” seemed to pay off with Reyes and Santana. Santana saved the bullpen from being overused and Reyes went back to playing like he was capable of. (remember Manuel took him out in Anaheim after Reyes said he had minor cramp in his hamstring)

]]> By: AngryFan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274156 AngryFan Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:49:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274156 <b>look, santana couldnt go 9, and then he goes on radio and said he would if johan asked, are you kidding me</b> You ever think he did that on purpose to send a bit of a message to Johan? The guy is a great pitcher but he's passive. Manuel isn't above sending the odd message or 2 through the press look, santana couldnt go 9, and then he goes on radio and said he would if johan asked, are you kidding me

You ever think he did that on purpose to send a bit of a message to Johan? The guy is a great pitcher but he’s passive.

Manuel isn’t above sending the odd message or 2 through the press

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274153 ravi3 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:46:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274153 I'd rather have Maine come out early in a game then miss the rest of the season. I’d rather have Maine come out early in a game then miss the rest of the season.

]]> By: the kooz http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274147 the kooz Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:36:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274147 I'm a John Maine fan, to be sure. However, I cant help but be concerned about his durabilty now. Last year he should have been an All Star what with the way he was pitching the first half and then just ran out of gas in the 2nd half, although he did step up big-time in the penultimate game of the season vs these pesky Marlins, what a game that was!! Reading the Post this morning about Maine, Warthen says in referring to the pain in his shoulder , that its "...generally not a serious area" and that it "wasnt a red flag".... Now I'm definitely not a doctor or anything or pretend to know everything about pitching mechanics, but SHOULDNT this be a red flag? Lets hope Maine gets some rest at the least and that its nothing serious. With 2 off days in the next week, maybe Jerry and company can juggle some arms around.... LETS GO METS! I’m a John Maine fan, to be sure. However, I cant help but be concerned about his durabilty now. Last year he should have been an All Star what with the way he was pitching the first half and then just ran out of gas in the 2nd half, although he did step up big-time in the penultimate game of the season vs these pesky Marlins, what a game that was!!

Reading the Post this morning about Maine, Warthen says in referring to the pain in his shoulder , that its “…generally not a serious area” and that it “wasnt a red flag”….

Now I’m definitely not a doctor or anything or pretend to know everything about pitching mechanics, but SHOULDNT this be a red flag?

Lets hope Maine gets some rest at the least and that its nothing serious. With 2 off days in the next week, maybe Jerry and company can juggle some arms around….

LETS GO METS!

]]> By: mikepelfreyismyguy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274131 mikepelfreyismyguy Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:27:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/07/29/health-maine-will-have-mri-on-stiff-shoulder/#comment-274131 MY GOD, manuel is SO FRIGGIN OVERPROTECTIVE ABOUT EVERYTHING. look, santana couldnt go 9, and then he goes on radio and said he would if johan asked, are you kidding me, it was his responsibility, pedro said he wanted to go ahead and pitch, but again he said no, and now maine, if i was john, i was probably start a yelling match and curse him out, and if he suspends you, you lost a game right there cuz he is one of your top pitchers. velvetfoot, yes since peterson left, it was a problem, cuz peterson gave him a plan of what to do, warthen doesnt do that, peterson leaving negatively affected maine the most, pelfrey was neutral, and warthen positively affected perez the most, pedro and santana dont need it. i bet willie randolph wouldve trusted his players. YO JERRY MANUEL, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED TRUSTING YOUR PLAYERS! EVER HEARD OF IT??? MY GOD, manuel is SO FRIGGIN OVERPROTECTIVE ABOUT EVERYTHING. look, santana couldnt go 9, and then he goes on radio and said he would if johan asked, are you kidding me, it was his responsibility, pedro said he wanted to go ahead and pitch, but again he said no, and now maine, if i was john, i was probably start a yelling match and curse him out, and if he suspends you, you lost a game right there cuz he is one of your top pitchers.

velvetfoot, yes since peterson left, it was a problem, cuz peterson gave him a plan of what to do, warthen doesnt do that, peterson leaving negatively affected maine the most, pelfrey was neutral, and warthen positively affected perez the most, pedro and santana dont need it.

i bet willie randolph wouldve trusted his players.

YO JERRY MANUEL, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED TRUSTING YOUR PLAYERS! EVER HEARD OF IT???

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