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The Game:
The Mets (58-49) play the second of a three game series against the Marlins (56-50) tonight at Dolphin Stadium in Miami, starting at 7:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Argenis Reyes
- 3B David Wright
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- CF Carlos Beltran
- RF Fernando Tatis
- LF Marlon Anderson
- C Brian Schneider
- RH Mike Pelfrey
The Pitchers:
RHP Mike Pelfrey (9-6, 3.67 ERA) starts for the Mets.
RHP Josh Johnson (0–50, 3.71 ERA) starts for the Marlins.
The Bleachers:
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…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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0-50 is a pretty deplorable record for someone who only made 3 starts.
He has a respectable ERA of 3.71 though. . . .
talk about lack of run support
a seldom used crab named lucky aka citizensnips
Marlon… Ugh..
Seriously, hasn’t manuel learned from this bust in the past…last time he played left field he almost tripped over himself while running for a fly ball and he can’t hit anything…come on. if chavez needs a day off, lets see what evans has to offer
why anderson why?
I agree completely that anderson should not be starting anywhere in the OF..let alone sniffing the starting lineup.
But if I had to go inside Manuel’s head I would guess that he figures Pelf is a ground ball pitcher when he’s on and he wants to try and get Marlon’s bat going..
They arent going to get him going by having him sit on the bench and take tons of BP.
They should DFA him and get him to AAA where he could start for two weeks and get his swing straightened out.
can we beat this guy? i mean hes 0-50 for goodness sake.,, but seriously all this team tries to do is hit home runs. lets shut these idiotic marlin announcers up. 3 games back will look nice
LETS GO BIG PELF!!!!!!!!!
This is a bad outfield for Marlon, lots of ground and those horrible lights.
yep this has the makings of a disaster
Well at least those of us watching on Extra Innings have the option to watch the away team feed, which means we get to escape the horrendous marlins announcers.
yea that first game still gets to me on how they kept saying why are these front runner fans leaving
not to mention the HAMMA
yea i live in fla and of course i have to listen to them again
Hammer Counter:
Testing, testing….
0
Marlon Anderson?? Are you kidding me??
0-50??? That’s barry zito numbers
5:56pm: Baseball Prospectus’ John Perrotto has multiple baseball sources saying the Red Sox are on the verge of sending Ramirez to Florida for three players, including outfielder Mike Stanton.
Great
Im hoping these sources are all wrong…that would be terrible
0-50 we r scrwed. hes due and w/ marlon in LMFAO
nooo not marlon lord why they need to release this guy already as if noone can tell he sucks
Go Big Pelf!!!
wait 0-50 is that real or he miss typed it?
It should be 0-0
he has had 3 no-decisions
It’s real.
The Marlins are 56-50 this year and, ironically, Josh Johnson has been responsible for EVERY single loss…including last night
Seriously?
Lets go Mets! Lets go big Pelf! Keep that ball down and let the defense handle it for you.
Why why why is Marlon Anderson still in the starting lineup.. Robinson Cancel could do a better job in LF than he can. This is bologna. Jerry your killin me!!!
i cant see how ramirez wants to go to florida
people should stop complaining about the marlins announcers. people complain how they root for the marlins but its not like gary keith and ron dont root for the mets. u dont see gary making an enthusiastic outta here when the opponent hits a homerun
sorry, but there is a difference
there is a difference. obviously gary keith and ron r better but sayin they r rootin for their team makes their broadcast bad doesnt make sence cuz the mets announcers do the same thing
see, i disagree. from time to time the mets announcers may lean a little more towards the mets, and i clearly can not agrue the home run call and stuff that gary do, but as a whole, they do not “root” for the mets.
having listened to all the other feeds now for a few seasons, it is clear to me that they are close to if not the least biased crew out there, while some of there are just simply horrid with respect to their “homerism.” i won’t even get started on their actual “announcing.”
*does
*there. man, am i wasted or something?
Not only are the Mets announcers less blatant about it, Ron and Keith actually offer insightful baseball analysis. They pick up on the little nuances of the game, and provide information that the average fan is not aware of. The Marlins announcers could be replaced by two dudes on the street and they’d provide as much useful analysis as the guys are that are in place.
Why does Jerry start Anderson , it really makes no sense. Why do I have a bad feeling that the Mets are not going to make a trade.
Jose is a beast.
Way to go Reyes Squared.
Argenis, Argenis, Argenis, Argenis…Arrrrrrrrgenis, Argenis.
Doesn’t have the same Umph! that the Jose chant has
the reyes bros!
that was a thing of beauty
This Florida feed has a monopoly on bad camera angles.
wonderful job david
can gary please get glasses?? that was not even close
david wright leads the mets in dp, good job. but hey 1 run should be good enough for a few pelf innings
big fly time?
Alright, glad to see the fast start. Let’s go Mike!!!
man, what a great yet not so great strart to the game. i had visions of a few more runs there.
side note, what does everyone think about pudge to the yankees?
Past his prime, suspected juicer…fits right in. For all their talk about a youth movement in their rotation, they’re an old team around the field and I don’t know what their position prospects are like (I’m going to think that since they’re not getting too hyped up much mean they’re not that great because way too many of their mediocre pitchers were put through the Yankee media machine).
And the Nats are laying down for the Phils.
they are just laying down for everyone lately. what, 10 runs in their last 9 games?
They just got their customary run for the game. Too bad they were already down 2-0.
By scoring 3 runs in the 1st?
Yeah well, no time to bust out of a slump like the present. I wrote that comment when they had loaded the bases for the Phils in the top of the 1st.
i am waiting for some sort of act of god, well, i mean another one given that they did just put up 3
I LOVE the bottom 3 in our line-up tonight…serious run producing potential from those boys!
I just learned what TV monitors Gary and Keith use, you are not going to get that on the Marlins broadcast lol.
Alright Mike!!!
Yea Big Pelf!!!!!!!
Pelfrey dominating
Pelf starting out very nicely.
1. david wright gets bailed out by delgado at least every 2 throws
2. big pelf is a stud
1) Delgado might have the worst range of any 1B in baseball, but he can pick it with the best of them.
2) STUD
I know I’m going to get Flamed for this so flame away but.. What about taking Andruw Jones off of the dodgers for a B prospect and keeping have Hojo work with him. There is no way he is as bad as his stats portray and could figure it out. If we could ever get him back on track that would be a huge life to this team. Plus he not that bad in the outfield.
excuse the grammar.. I’m eating as i type…
Are the Dodgers going to pay us to take him? They’re going to need to eat almost all of his salary to ever move him. In fact a B level prospect in AA could probably produce the same as he has the past 1.5 seasons.
If the fish get manny.. The NL east is going to be a beast down the stretch..
IS THIS A METS CLASSIC FROM 2007??
OR DID MARLON ANDERSON ACTUALLY GET A BASE HIT?!?!
wow, nats are alive
Marlon basehit?
Is this the Twilight Zone?
Yeah, Anderson sucks. He can’t hit at all. Particularly not to the opposite field.
Thatta boy, Schneider…never saw that one coming
Schneider…………still sucks.
moyer getting bombed. big game here guys.
My Lord…….Schneider is HORRENDOUS
not going to win too many games hitting into a double play every inning. come on.
Remember that BRUTAL Brewers game in April? I hope it’s not deja vu of that one. That was painful.
schneider just kills us… cant even clear the pitcher spot. doesnt anybody need a “great defensive catcher”?
Will any pitcher on the Mets finish the season with more extra base hits than Schneider??? Haha, should we take bets? LOL
You know… I’m willing to accept that it wouldn’t have made a difference, but Marlon could have at least attempted a takeout slide there.
yeah, he might have even taken himself out…
that brings back memories. there was our one game last season.
Yeah, I saw that too. It might have even made a difference, with Ramirez double-clutching on the throw. At least make the effort; that’s what you get paid for.
Someone said it best before the bottom of our lineup tonight, is pretty bad.
I dont understand how people keep defending schneider. we all know he is not an offensive catcher, but cmon he is never clutch and always kill the rallies
in my opinion, he’s a pretty sh..ty defensive catcher as well, at least as far as his glove goes
….and other than him throwing out some people early early on….his defense has not been as advertised, to say the least.
exactly!!!
THERE IT IS HAMMER #1
Oooh…”Hammer” strikes out. Usually it’s “Hammer” who gets hits and “Willingham” who strikes out.
yeah, the was the most pathetic hammer yet from this guy all series
Sounds like the marlins broadcast crew might need to find a new hammer.
#2 and goodbye
‘hammer’. God I can’t wait until I don’t have to listen to these jerkoffs.
Once again they refer to him as Josh Willingham when he strikes out. These guys are horrible.
I think the Extra Innings people heard us – the have BOTH the SNY and the horrid FLA feed available tonight.
Of course, I am enjoying Gary and Keith.
WOW. looked like a bad call from the naked eye
YES !!
Schneider redeems himself.
OUT!!!!!!
Wow what an awful slide
Keith on that slide -’It stinks’.
HIS NAME IS STILL DAN UGGLA!
LOL!
hmm, the way Pelf reacted to that up and in pitch, it didn’t seem like it was an accident
NICE.
The reactions of the Marlins announcers; PRICELESS.
SNY feed also available tonight on Extra Innings.
I’m actually looking forward to them posting the clip on Gameday so I can hear that.
NICE TAG BRIAN!!!
“terrible slide…that’s the horrible slide that I HATE…IT STINKS!”
hahaha..this is why i love keith hernandez
Yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!
thank you dan uggla
Yea Big Pelf!!! Thanks for the TERRIBLE SLIDE Uggla
Alright, nice defense, Pelf with a good comeback after giving up that hit.
Good call. His leg completely missed the plate.
I have to say, what is this hand tag the plate slide that all the kids are doing these days?
Run straight at the plate, slide straight into the plate, unless there’s a catcher blocking your way.
There’s almost no way that getting to the plate faster will hurt you.
i agree. i have seen david and jose do it, almost to a fault, but i have seen it work quite a few times. i think there may be a time and place for that slide, MAY, but it most cases going home, i would think you would want to me as agressive as possible
Wow, first time the marlins guys weren’t homers on the call
as much as it is killing me to listen to them, they have been ok with regards to highlights and admitting a good play / call.
They’re not nearly so bad as some. They’re kind of charming, for a small market kind of thing. I don’t know why you’re all hating on them. They’re not GaryKeithandRon, but who is?
ok, horrid slide (man, i wish i had the feed, i can hear keith now) but good throws by carlos and jose….and a nice get and tag by brian.
Honestly, the throw from Reyes wasn’t really all that great.
No you are right, really he rushed it and kinda short armed it.
agreed. it got it done, so i guess for that i gave it a good
So thrilled that Extra Innings has both feed available tonight. They must have gotten lots of email.
Sorry – meant for skylog’s earlier comment.
next season i will probably go that route…if i upgrade the tv. i am thinking about satellite as well, i would love to have access to sny
DAMN
Bad luck.
jose has to back a lil better effort to get back there…NO?
eh, nothing you can really do there. I don’t fault him for that one.
was he running on the pitch? I didn’t catch it
think he was pretty far off the bag
ok, this is really starting to get annoying.
Nicely done Mike!!!
Solid defensive play, Jose…
Yea Big Pelf!!!!
MLBRUMORS
# The Yankees have been getting calls on Carl Pavano. One unconfirmed rumor has the Mets interested.
as much as the thought sacres me to death, it would be hilarious if he came over and did awesome
The fish don’t have anywhere near enough pitching to make a run at the WS. How does this trade make any sense. Would Manny’s contract carry over and the Marlins would have the two option years?
This deal is going down. Its going to happen. The fish have johnson, volstad, sanchez, olsen and miller
and nolasco
how could they afford him.. He’s going to be asking for at least a 4 year 80 million dollar contract
they dont care. They want to win now unlike the wilpons
The main reason why I don’t think the Marlins make this trade is the had basically the same player (Miguel Cabrerra) who was 10 years younger, just played a different position and let him go. Also, its just not the Marlin way, they don’t win by making big signings.
Who cares, they have the toughest schedule in the majors in the 2nd half and (duh) had the easiest in the 1st half? It’s a rental, they will not resign him. Good for them.
You’re right good for them for trying, but the schedule stuff is bull in baseball. Remember 10 months ago. The Mets couldn’t possibly blow the lead because they had such a soft schedule. WOOPS!
Shoot
How long did it take Tatis to get to tat ball? Jeez.
if endy was in right that would have been a double
Mets need to stop squandering opportunities. They should be up by 3 here.
i have heard that before
Yeah, haven’t we all?
It’s ok Mike, keep it here!!!
Marlins get a bloop RBI single. Shocker!
Which is why you can’t have Tatis in RF.
i understand he may have been shaded towards center, but watching it live i thought he fell down, twice, or something it took him so long to get there
Makes Shawn Green look like Fred Astaire.
another blooper by ‘hammer’.
I have never seen more bloops by one team in a series. Very frustrating
In all fairness, that last one would be classified as a ‘flare’, or a ‘dinker’
lol
if they are going to have another one of these bloop rallies, i may go insane.
need a DP here.
how about some justice and a dp for them
oh boy, come on Pelf, get this out
thatta boy!
Yea Big Pelf!!!
Nice K Mike!!! Get out of this jam!!!
Pelfrey is due for a bad game, they can’t ALL be good.
the Marlins are also due to have a crippling losing streak
And he…got him!
Siddown Danny boy.
Jacobs scares me against Pelfrey
UGH – Mets got Jay Payton for Willie Collazo per Baltimore paper
Again?
Really? Awesome!
I know Jay’s not actually any good. But he was one of my favorite players on the 2000 team. Don’t ask why, I have no idea.
Well at least we did not give up anything or take on any salary for next season. Sounds like a good deal to me.
The Marlins announcers are among the worst.
Just mentioned Nady as a Beltran-esque player, in that he was good for a while on small teams without anyone noticing..
Only difference being that, you know, Nady was in SD for about a year and a half and wasn’t all that good.
A buddy of mine used to date Uggla’s sister. Jane Uggla is her name. She looked like Dan with long hair. Yowza!
are you saying she is uggla?
Picture Dan with long hair and come to your own conclusion. :D
betcha she has trouble with the off-speed stuff too
hey-ohhh!!!
no way that Payton thing is true. no way.
he is right handed
at least he’s a good fielder
Why? He is the classic nobody that does get moved.
this guy is lying again
By the way, Payton has an .878 OPS vs. LHP. Wonder why we would get him?
Come on Big Pelf!!!!!
come on, don’t walk Cody freakin Ross
jesus christ, or do that…
FIRE OMAR!!! THIS TEAM STINKS
maybe he should have walked Cody “Freakin” Ross
Shoot!!!!
no mans land out there
That hurts
hearing this asswipe say ‘here comes hammer’ makes me want to start punching babies.
u gotta be kidding. we are making this team look good
Tatis!!!!, LOL. We need Church back in RF and Tatis back in LF.
This sucks.
hopefully the Nats are up to actually winning a game tonight
Bottom of the order hitting, no less….
this is tough to watch them hit pelfrey here.
wow come on pelf. hes given up shots now. warm some one up
MUNIZ!!!!!
keep doubting the marlins people.
This doesn’t look good
Time to strap up the laces of our hitting boots…
this game is ugly. again with the two out runs. well, it is going to take a whole lot to win this series now
Yeah, 4 runs.
rememebr that stat wehere pelfrey sucked agasint people when there r 2 outs. he needs to get a strike out pitch. you cant thorw ur fastball all the time
Ugh….this franchise has to start showing it can win big games…..which it hasn’t done from 06 through now.
ohh yea, and this will only get worse if they add manny. Ughh!
Let’s hope Omar is talking his BROKEN ENGLISH on the phone right now.
“I need to make a deal for help, ya know what I saying?”
oh no not muniz
Wow that’s news to me. Marlins announcers said that Beltran plays a shallow CF. These guys are terrible.
ugh COME ON MIKE
this is what happens when you don’t hit into a double play with two men on and no outs
big pelf is getting ripped apart
This is getting ugly
sht, it’s just one of those games, oh well
yeah. u know u need a better pitch when a pitcher crushes ur fastball
You have got to be kidding. The pitcher ?????
WTF!
Freakin marlins.this team sucks. Trade the farm
looking like the pelfrey of old
You gotta be f-ing kidding me.
HOW MANY HUGE INNINGS CAN THIS TEAM NEVER BE ABLE TO STOP??????????????????
SHOW SOME FRIGGIN GUTS!! GET A HUGE OUT!!!!!
3 TIMES IN A LITTLE OVER A WEEK. PATHETIC
get a life.
These Flordia announcers suck…they force me to watch the game on mute
Why isn’t schnieder calling anything other than fastballs. Nothing but fastballs every single pitch..
Damn. Time to start hitting.
Rain? Is that not a dome down there? In Florida?
jesus christ.
Guys, still a lot of game to be played. But if we lose, you do realize that the Marlins are a decent team and we are on the road. You can’t win every series on the road, especially against good teams. It is not the end of the world.
Gotta love how all the over reactionary idiots start to come out.
100% agree. Part of the rigors of a 162 game season…
However, still plenty of game left to play
Championship teams usually play about .500 on the road ….the Mets, …not so much.
Have you seen the Cubs road record?
Kinda funny how we have a great home record this year, whereas the past 2 we were a better road team.
In fact the only team that is leading the division with at least a .500 record on the road is the Angels.
That is odd…I was talking historically.
That said, it is weird how the Mets had been so bad at home and goo don the road in recent years have flipped that this year….despite the whining of newbie fans about the booing at Shea.
It has been linked to the abscence of greenies. Makes sense but I am not sure yet.
Could be…especially for West Coast trips or a Mon road game after a late Sunday night ESPN game at home, etc.
Ugh. And Pelf returns to earth…..Maine is hobbled….Chuch doesn’t know his name…Pedro will get rocked on Friday and can only go 4 or so even if he isn’t…the bullpen is like playing Russian Roulette….our starting corner OFs on any given day may include people not even on the depth chart to start the year…..and Omar take a half day in the DR instead of working the phones.
Typical.
unreal. i hate to count them out, but i just don’t think they are going to pull this one out. what the !#$@ is with this team and not being able to stop the bleeding? hit after hit, runs? they keep giving up huge innings…without giving up home runs.
if the payton rumor is true, then it’s just more evidence that deadline trades are BAD LUCK 4 this team… see zambrano, hidalgo etc
where did you see this?
someone mentioned it above..
neither the marlins or the mets r world series contenders.
Dont worry guys, well win it all when fmart and niese and parnell and carp and all our other untouchables are ready to come up.
these asswipe announcers don’t deserve to call my slow-pitch softball games.
Marlins are winning this division anyway. we have to hope for the WC
church r u an idiot marlins r not winning it. its either phills or mets. marlins got third.
When they don’t, will you never post at this site again?
Hell, I would go out and get in a fight with Manny just to make that happen.
do i see the baseball Gods pouring rain over miami?
hanram hits a homer
you can’t expect Pelfrey to dominate every game, hopefully he’ll shake this performance off
Not bad for a team with a payroll of $22 million. That is what the Mets spent on Pedro and Alou this year.
awful inning…at least its early….in the game
This game is still young…frankly, even if our pen gets rocked the rest of the game, there are worse things that can happen the day before the deadline. That would really make Omar wake up
Wow! This game got fugly in a hurry. Our bats need to liven up and pick away.
It really doesn’t take much for some Met fans to turn on their team.
JESUS CHRIST!!!!
Talk about fair weather fans.
Thank you!
maybe we’ll have a rain out before the game is official….
Hmmmm, I wonder if the Phils will win their game against the Nats…..out of 1st again
how bout the Mets get a couple of bloops?
Phils tie it up..greatttttttttt…this night gets better and better
you are counting on the nats whom are one of the great disgraces in sports
Another HR for Dunn…
I can’t believe nobody is biting on what essentially is a half year of Dunn for basically a nondescript prospect package. Simply amazing…
pelfrey? gone already?
I thought they sent Muniz down.
This isnt the time of the season to try and get anderson going….he should be either playing well or off the team by now…oh and the phils are wining…good bye first place
Okay……
Kind of an odd move here by Manuel…
mets need to make a trade. just so marlon can not be on this team any more
get dunn….or anyone….sign lofton….anyone is a better option than marlon anderson…Ill even take Victor Zambrano out there
Shades of second half of last year. The BP is never gonna hold up if the starters don’t go consistently late in the game…
One does get a sickening sense of deja vu.
Pelfrey had gone 7+ innings five straight starts coming into tonight. First time he’d gone less than 5 since May 26.
Not Pelf’s issue…it’s the pen and other starters not going long.
Phils up 5-3 on Nats now. Still batting in the 5th.
Make that 7-3 on Utley HR.
The Phils BEAT the Nats……always……as they should. Only teams in the middle of the GREATEST COLLAPSE OF ALL TIME don’t beat the Nats……only the Mets lose 3 of 4 at HOME to the Nats this year……
lol
Phillies were 4-3 against the Nats coming into tonight.
7-3 now
Who cares? We have to focus on playing good baseball. There is way too much time to be concerned about the Phillies winning a series against the Nats.
I care…because when the sweep the nationals like they well, then will be a full game out
So, I still don’t get it. It won’t matter if we don’t play good baseball.
I think Pelf was tipping his pitches tonight…he’s had problems with that in the past. That’s why he wore the mouthpiece. The TMJ thing was BS. He stopped using the mouthpiece because he would tip his pitches anyway by sticking the darn thing out of his mouth.
Great night. Omar doesen;t care about winning and no more first place
LOL
wtf he is IN
Is pelf hurt or was he taken out because he forgot how to pitch
look at score. he was getting rocked
I’m just wondering if our rotation was cut down to ollie and Johan
ollie santana and the great Muniz
He had one bad inning…
I dont know what would be worse, running Pelf back out there and hoping he would recover. Or Muniz, who will likely get knocked around even worse. Then there are 3 more innings for the already overworked guys to soak up.
When his spot in the lineup came up with a runner on YOU HAVE TO PINCH HIT>
we need a fresh bullpen arm who hasn’t pitched every day
OMG he covered first w/o losign his shoe
This bullpen is going to be destroyed if Jerry continues to mange it this way.
Could not have sent Pelfrey back out. Plus guy on 1st down 4 you let the pitcher bat?
love how everyone assumes they can manage better than anybody in the majors
As I said in last night’s thread:
Of the 54 games remaining after tonight, how do these 33 sound: 9 vs. Nats, 9 vs. Braves (the depleted Braves), 7 vs. Astros, 5 vs. Pirates, 3 vs. Padres
THOSE are the games where the 2008 Mets have to prove they aren’t the 2007 Mets…our 10 game streak came against bad teams
Agree 100%. I was looking at the schedule today and thinking the same thing, and the Braves now are just about as bad as the Nationals. Just like last year, what is going to decide the division is what the Mets do against the bad teams, not loosing 2 out of 3 to a good team on the road for their first series loss all month…Let’s hope things turn out better this year.
Exactly. The team needs to go on a tear there…all truly great teams are able to beat down on the bad teams. Go out there and win like 70-75% of those games. From there I’m sure the Fish will cool off later on and we have proven we can outplay the Phils.
Then we have a few games against the Brew Crew and Cubs (and if the Cubs go on a tear and clinch before they face us….that can be easy too).
First three were at Philly.
well either the Nats or us needs to have a four run comeback in order for us to stay atop the division. not a very good scenario. thank goodnees its still july
are you serious? Johnson has 61 pitches through 5? Come on, what the heck happened to the hitting?
delgado slowed down. he was OUR offesne the past few weeks
He did OK yesterday…
Delgado slowed down????
He hit a home run 3 at-bats ago! Take it easy, buddy.
Jerry throwing in the towel bringing this hack into the game.
I’m telling you he was tipping, you don’t give up double after double by missing spots.
is it tipping when 95% of ur pitches r fastballs no. u jusut cant thorw fastball after FB u need something else
I was thinking that to,, Earlier in the game they showed a shot of Gonzo and Olsen talking about Pelfrey.. You could see them pointing at something..
The only problem with this is that he wasn’t even throwing his slider so.. Not sure if it even mattered
KISS FIRST PLACE GOODBYE!!!
adam dunn just homered today….yea he strikes out alot but he hits homeruns like its nothing!! GET HIM ALREADY JEEZ
Uh oh, C4P is coming to get you. Watch out.
with Pedro pitching the Mets next game they need to extend Muniz tonight and just consider this game a lost cause. Then send down Muniz and call up Figgy or someone else to be a long reliever in back of Pedro.
To bad they didnt keep Collazo instead.
I agree about sending Muniz down after this for Vargas. He did well in the role before.
what a Bit ch thorw by marlon;
Haven’t seen Muniz have a 1-2-3 inning in like – never, maybe???
marlins announcers are drooling over that willingham aka the damn hammer double/slide
Ive had a bad feeling about the bullpen since the first week of the season and at this point I really feel like its going to be the undoing of the team this year. Its really unfortunate too because so many players have stepped up to give this team a fantastic run but unless there is some amazing news tomorrow im going to be wearing my thick skin for the rest of the season.
I honestly don’t feel we have a bad bullpen – especially by comparison around the league. What we do have, is an overused BP, which ALWAYS spells trouble.
Dont you feel its overused at least to some degree as a result of their ineffectiveness?
Fair point.
For a second I thought Muniz might actually retire a side in order.
Good bye 1st place.. make sure you stand pat at the dead line omar this team is obviously good enough the way it is
Oh no, we should trade our entire farm for Bay or Holliday. We have to win this season and ONLY this season. This is the only season to matter. We can’t beat the Marlins in this division if we don’t trade everyone. Hell trade Reyes, we suck if we don’t trade, trade trade. Were going to Chicago and Washington and all the way to the White House, Ahhhhhhh.
That’s not what I said at all… when we trade Lastings for Schnedier and 57 games of Ryan Church, we’re winning now…
When we trade 4 guys for Johan we’re winning now….
But when we have a chance to realllllllly make a statement, we don’t do it
The Marlins are about to take 2 out of 3, send us back to 2nd, and add a HUGE bat
So yes, we need to make a move if we are supposed to win this year, as 90% of omar’s moves indicate
So get a life you jerk, people are allowed to have an opinion on this thing other then what Cerrone says
So we should make a bad move because the Marlins added Manny and the Phillies added Blanton?
And obviously Omar knew that Church would only play 57 games. What is your point in the Milledge trade? He brought back to MLB starters that would be here for a few years.
What statement do we need to make, that we are retarded and traded our #2 prospect for friggin Raul Ibanez?
I have a life and I am a Jerk so it has not worked.
so, the team is about to lose its first series in like a month..and suddenly we suck? good logic
yeah cause that’s what I said… learn how to read first
pretty much is your logic dude…you are basically saying we have to have a trade because we are losing one series. Why don’t you read what you type first.
We’re not even 10 games above .500, that’s not gonna be good enough to beat out two other teams in our division
Has nothing to do with this series
i see what you are saying, but at the same time, is anyone else in our division 10 games over? We do play in a very competitive division. We have a winning record vs all our in division teams except the braves… We have obviously been playing MUCH better of late overall. There is an upside to this play of late
I just hate the idea of trading when nothing out there looks like the silver bullet (not to say it ever is)
How were we in the lead if these other teams are so good?
Look at the Marlins schedule, they are going to need Manny and then some just to finish above .500 in the second half. They play the toughest schedule in the majors in the 2nd half.
Phillies still can’t pitch.
is that true? toughest in the majors?
Has to even out, their strength of schedule so far is 29th and that is with them playing some good teams since the break.
yeah, this ‘hammer’ thing has gotten ridiculous. They absolutely do not call him Josh Willingham unless he strikes out. Somebody shoot me.
We need to trade sho for marcus thames and bring up a fresh eddie kunz
Tigers don’t need him now, they traded for Farnsworth.
yea but farsworth is a righty and sho is a lefty, everyone wants lefties and we already have felciano
understood but i think they are done.
yea but sho could still go for someone else idk
‘hammer’ stranded at 2nd.
PURE INSANITY!!!!!
lets go Jose!
I’ll take a walk as a rally starter. Need base runners here.
Am I not mistaken in Johnson never won a game? Do we really need to be his first win?
Just hasn’t won since 2006 (he was 12-7) but he’s only pitched 33 innings since then so…
We better not be standing pat tomorrow..this team is not going to win the World Series. Playoffs maybe, but not a world championship calibr team
Then we can have one next year. Get to the playoffs this season and see what happens. Who knows. Look at the Cardinals and Rockies.
Getting a couple of runs here would be nice…or at least not hitting into DP’s.
just what the doc ordered
Come on, let’s start getting these runs back little by little.
be patient Argenis. The Marlins should have Cookie do the English broadcasts
+1
Let’s get at least one here.
wait how did reyes gwet on second? did the marlins guys totally miss a steal?
Wild Pitch.
wild pitch
another wasted base runner…this is ridiculous
Somebody wake up Wright.
this is a very hard game to watch
this is a mirror image of us in the earlier part of the year…I usually have confidence in us coming back lately but I just don;t feel it tonight
I figure we’re about one inning away from the “this team just doesn’t care and plays with no fire” comments.
It did not even take that long.
It is amazing how quickly it comes out of the woodwork.
True. It’s definitely coming next inning…”this team doesn’t play with any fire…”
It’s already happen, really.
“this is a mirror image of us in the earlier part of the year”
Which is just ludicrous.
Pelfrey needs an off speed pitch bad. He’s going to run into plenty of games like this and an off speed pitch thrown for a strike would do him wonders. Hopefully in the off season he can work on something..
Is anybody alive out there tonight!!!!!!!
C’mon big man, knock one out…pleaseeeeeee!
or not
I’m already too late.
If anyone cares niese has thrown 3 in shut out with 4 k’s and 1 walk, so far
Gotta love this place, the first time the team probably drops a series in weeks and people are jumping off bridges.
Never change Metsblog.
Not all of us. But I know what you mean…..
Instant gratification is not quick enough for some people.
What you “big picture” folks never seem to grasp is that THIS IS AN IN-GAME THREAD, where people are bound to be more emotional, living and dying with each pitch and venting about the twists and turns of a game – including doing so with enormous hyperbole.
If it were a thread about the overall, “big-picture” of the team and the pennant race, people would be far more reasonable in their comments – maybe expressing some concerns about the pen and corner OF spots, but generally more positive.
In some ways you are right. But the comments of, Omar wants to lose, this team sucks, we can’t win with this team unless we trade Fmart. Those are not just emotional but plain retarded.
I gotcha…but there are morons everywhere and they are not the norm (well, they are the norm for Church4Prez).
There is a big difference between living and dying with each pitch and declaring the season lover in the forth inning tonight.
Just saying….
Agreed…and most of the commenters did not say such things, even if they were upset.
You can get whiplash from the way people go back and forth from at bat to at bat and/or inning to inning. We love David Wright in the first. What wrong with him in the fourth.
Are we reading the same blog?
That’s because some people are extremely emotional and can’t restrain themselves during a game. Buts lets be honest. If we were normal we wouldn’t waste all our time watching grown men play a children’s game and get upset about it. There are other things in life. But now back to the game. @#$%%$#@$^&^%$ :)
BTW Pelfrey was due for a bad outing.
The Marlins have good hitting team, particularly a great fastball hitting team.
It’s hard to make a living basically throwing just a fastball. On days when the fastball is not up to its normal quality Pelfrey has nothing else to turn to.
I’m certainly not saying that I don’t mind that we might lose the series I’m just saying tonight we look awful and that is fact
I just hate playing in Florida it is painful to watch games being played there can’t wait to move on to the next series
Wow – 2 scoreless innings for Muniz.
Where have you been, Carlos???
Nice job Muniz!!! COME ON OFFENSE!!!
Marlon Anderson has no right being on the field.
BTW, love how the Nats just lay down like dogs against the Phillies. Can’t wait until we play them. Of course when they play us, they’ll play tough.
Looks like he has Vertigo.. He has no business being an outfielder..
Maybe they are just not very good. They were down 2-0 and came back and scored 3 right away. Did not matter because then the Phillies had a big inning. They are for sure not “laying down”. Watch their game.
Big Pelf needs an off speed pitch bad. He’s going to run into plenty of games like this and an off speed pitch thrown for a strike would do him wonders. Hopefully in the off season he can work on something..
Alright. I feel good about this inning. Come on Marlon.
Hate to sound negative but i have no reason to believe in Marlon here
Reverse psychology baby!!!!
lol – O.K. now you have to take that back.
well he showed you
lol
C’mon now….capitalize on this!
Oh…Schneider….nevermind.
What is the point of carrying three catchers if we don’t pinch hit for Schneider here?
Now THAT is a good question.
I am guessing it was because a RH was pitching.
Schneinder GIDP?
Sorry Schneider. You only STRUCK out.
Hate to sound negative but I see no reason to believe in Schneider here
LOL – worked last time.
Damn…that reverse psychology experiment is over
Well, he didn’t GIDP…good job!
okay…that was NOT a strike
A back door slider on 3-2? Can’t expect that.
Well, you could if he had thrown it 3 times that AB.
Jacobs is out of the lineup, trade maybe
Or maybe he just sucks?
haha
or he typically comes out for defense late in games…
or you were being sarcastic
On here much? There is no way that C4P is being sarcastic. He is for real, tha truth baby.
That does it…….I want fines issued out everytime someone take strike 3 looking. I’m all for working out a walk, but this is getting ridiculous.
Where did that catch the plate. Schneider needs to get the bat off his shoulder but that looked like ball 4 to me.
anyone else hear the jacka$$ who is obviously near a mic? I can’t understand what hes saying, but hes obnoxious
Yea that guy it a tool he needs to shut up
Same thing happened last night, except the guy shut up after the Mets took the lead. Pretty sure he’s ginna stick around until this one is oner.
Heard him yelling that Delgado was on deck earlier in the game. Think he was there last night too.
DAMION!!!
EASLEY!!!!!!!
Gary Cohen does it again!
EASLEY!!!!!!!
THATTA BOY, DAMION!!!
Damion is the MAN !!
Woo-Hoo !!!
It ain’t over ’till it’s over…..
D-EASY!
THIS TEAM SUCKS TRADE EM ALL.
These Mets have no heart and play lifeless without fire.
Those who basically quit on this game 2 innings ago should not post. You have not earned it.
Matt should have a “Benched” button.. lose you posting abilities until after the game..
I don’t know, I would eventually miss laughing at C4P. He’s no stiff. He has been to October and has a ring. He is CLUTCH.
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!! Spot on, dude.
Garry called that one.. Way to go Easy
Man, Damion doesn’t hit many but you can just feel when he’s going to.
carlos muniz takin out of the game?
trade?
That jackoff is still running his mouth.
Yea Damon!!!!!!!!!! Luis who?
‘When you need a car…..truck or van…….who ya gonna call???’
MAROONEY!!!
Wow, Unbelievable how Gary just so accuratly called that HR, placement and everything. Nice Shot Damion! Go Mets!!!! I hate these Fish
If Reyes makes an out here, get ready for the “Reyes can’t hit in a big spot” comments
good call.
reyes never gets a big hit
wow, boston is crashing and burning
good…maybe it’ll shut up those fans..
Come on Duaner!!!
Jerry should imply the Doc Brown ‘next time you do that you owe me 20 push ups’ law with Reyes. He would have had to do 20 pushups right there in front of everybody.
Nice job Duaner!!! Let’s go offense!!!
Solid inning, Duaner. Let’s do this right now!
::Good Vibes::
Sanchez still only hitting 89 on the gun with his fastball. Not good.
which means we should get manny right?
He has not been getting much more than that all season.
as long as his change up is down a few mph then he should be alright.. not dominate but alright
Now, lets go get the lead back this inning. It should be our best chance.
I know this is a little late. But from all the comments you guys have been making when I saw the Easley home run clip from Sun Sports on Gameday I was expecting them to say “and Damion the Hammer Easley cranks one out.”
Let’s go Mets. Reyes. Wright. Delgado. Load it up for Beltran.
Can the Nats just be demoted to AAA?
im dont with marlin announcers. ” can i say a. reyes because if i say argenis im scared someone might email us” r u kidding me?
LOL – so glad I’m in the SNY market…..
all I’ve heard is how awful the Marlins pitching is, well, let’s see it
Here’s our money player…come on D Wright
Reyes is a poor man’s Ruben Gotay. He will not be an impact player at all just like Gotay. The more he plays the worse he will get.
I actually think he’ll be a better bench player than Gotay was/is….
On defense I guess you are right. Either way, not much there.
swing the bat David!
Come on, David. You’re due here. Get on base.
wright seems off
just once can David get ahead in the count? is it possible?
wright is in the top 5 in the Majors in walks…i’d say he gets ahead in the count plenty
not really, he may work out walks, but he rarely gets ahead of the count
Very true. He is always going 0-2 and running the count full.
Oy vey.
Ahh he can’t keep on getting behind 0-2
If he’s ahead in the count he will just start to rake
we could use manny in this situation? at least he might put the ball in play
yeah but it would take him a week to get to first
better than a k
Anyone think that with Delgado hitting and Tatis and Easley that it may be time to move Beltan to the 2 spot?
i think most of us have been saying that…for a while
I did not want to do it, but now with the bottom of the lineup doing well and Beltran not so much, I think it would be a good time to do it. Then just leave him there when Church comes back.
Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Tatis, Church, Easley, Schnieder/Castro
Switch Tatis and Church vs RH.
Unrelated: Check out the lineup the Braves are fielding today: Gregor Blanco, Yunel Escobar, Casey Kotchman, Gale Norton (CLEANUP!?), Omar Infante, Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francoeur, Corky Miller.
That is ALL-TIME bad.
it feels like this ump is giving the marlins all the strike calls….ALL SERIES
it’s unreal how that Mets make other teams bullpens look spectacular
Mr. Clutch!
David Wright in a clutch spot, you knew that was coming. Then he gets his “I’m gonna cry” face on.
just missed…
r u kidding? what a terrible camera 4 fsfl
they have the camera on the right fielder and all i see is him stop moving then all of a sudden they show the cf catching the ball. good job fox sports florida
this loss would be painful
:( :(
so close…
Damn just missed it…maybe Beltran can start his hot streak next inning?
Anybody else feel like Wright looks at too many pitches? Seems to me like he always gets a first pitch fastball right down the pipe that he just looks at. While I like patience at the plate, I think Wright would be a guy who would benefit from being more aggressive.
david wright pisses me off so much
yes, I definitely feel that
he has been doing this all season, and it has been driving me nuts. he continues to let great pitches go by, and then he ends up swinging at crap. it is hard to get on him, given his 290/20/83 and a lot of walks…….but, he has been striking out quite a bit and, as we know, leads the team in dps.
Ugh he hits it to the one damn corner it wouldn’t go out
i can’t stand david wright. he doesnt do anything in clutch oppurtunities. has anyone noticed that most of david wrights homeruns are solo. also in the first inning he just had to ground in a double play. how about hitting a single david. he gets me so angry.
can someone say adam dunn 2 hr’s tonight?
Honest question here…..other than the big homer in Cincy, has Wright had what you would consider one other HUGE HR this year?
literally all of his homers are solo ones
he is 3rd in RBIs so you can’t really kill him
I had my all caps DELGADO ready to hit ‘add comment’. I’m pretty sure U wasn’t the only one.
same here
This game highlights the need for the Mets to get a real 2 hitter. You can only have a 8th hitter batting 2 for so long. It’s a huge hole in the middle of what should be a strong part of the lineup.
At this point with Castillo out you have to move Beltran there. This is a perfect example of why OBP matters for a #2 hitter.
and a 2nd HR for Dunn tonight…still nobody huh? The 2 million for the rest of the year and the 2 draft picks next year if he walks are not worth it, hmmm??
Obviously they are. I have no idea why we are not on this unless the cost is just too much.
Parnell, Evans and a prospect should be enough.
Adam Dunn has .242, 32, 74 and an OBP of .387. How is this guy not under consideration???? Ok, he K’s a lot. So does Wright.
Was Dunn traded? I thought I heard Cohen say Dunn hit his last HR in a Cincy Uniform?
Come on Joe!!!
you have to be kidding, the first and last pitch to willingham would have been strikes for the marlins pitchers
ugh
Time to send down Joe…sorry man but the league has caught up with you.
Joe down, Kunz up!
This game has won me over to the fact that the Mets need to get Adam Dunn and move Beltran to 2. Give them Niese for gods sake, it’s not like he’s a surefire ace
ummm yeah hes best a no.3 they say.
I still say that Parnell, Evans and one of our picks this season as a PTBNL would work.
Good God….
Gary ‘What Joe needs here is a ground ball’
Next pitch, out.
we need more than manny or dunn. we need a bullpen
THIS TEAM SUCKS!! IF OMAR DOES NOT MAKE A TRADE, HE MUST BE FIRED IMMEADEATLEY!!!!!!!!
Hey check MLB Trade rumors, this deal is going to happen possibly with lowrie and wilson
damn.
Alber t Pujols went 0-5 with 3Ks in a game against the Mets last weekend. I guess he’s also a bum.
yeah…he can’t come through in the clutch…i’d trade him
Can someone explain to me how this works.
If the Red Sox don’t trade Manny and don’t pick up his option will they still get Draft picks when another team signs him?
Only if they offer him arbitration which they would never do.
So they have to trade him,, if they want anything out of it
Joe Smith is ****en horrible. Get rid of him already.
send down joe smith. once again he tires through the season.
if manny goes to florida. i pray someone is about to board a plane to houston
I would love to see the Mets record when a starter goes at least 6 innings and their record when they don’t. I’ll bet ther results would be staggering.
I bet every teams would be.
do the Mets play the Nats anytime soon?
I can’t stand these announcers, good lord.
Just get Chad Bradford back. He was great here in 06 and keeps it up all year, unlike Joe “AA” Smith
Agreed about Bradford.
never understood why they got rid of him
omar didnt want to give a white guy 5 million
What a stupid comment. He did not sign Bradford because he misjudged the market then gave the VERY white Show the same contract.
LMFAO got to like the music. yeah kiss his butt good bye
And the bullpen musical chairs begins.
Lately, either we use no one out of the bullpen – save Wags, or we see everyone in the game.
SOS…. A little help please….a little bullpen help…PLEASE!!!! Hurry up!!!
Well at least our ’stopper’ Feliciano is in to clean up this mess.
This bullpen is way too inconsistent…either they’re lights out, or they’re giving up 4, 5, 6 runs….completely unreliable.
That sounds pretty consistent to me, consistently bad.
Yeah, Smith seems to have hit the wall again.
What the heck was up with Pelfrey? Just not sharp? I assume he was leaving balls over the fat part, since he didn’t walk anyone.
Still, poor time for Smith to give back the runs, although it was nice to see Muniz get the job done for 2 innings. So prertty much like Pelf going 6!
Where is Jorge Sosa!! I kid,,
adam dunn suckks ladies and gents. 2 homeruns. and 32 on the year. ugh how bad he is and how bad he is not needed.
You mean to lead the majors in HR?
i would cry if the sox,pirates and marlins officially have a deal ready and manny says sorry i dont want to go to the marlins
I just heard the Mets were close to a couple trades but the other team’s GM’s could not understand Omar on the phone. They have called for an interpreter who is fluent in “broken english” and then the mets may be able to seal these deals.
trying to be funny were ya?
I think its pretty clear that bullpen help needs to be our number 1 option. Forget getting an outfielder, this is not a playoff caliber bullpen. When were down in games and come back and close the gap, they just give up more runs. Twice in the last week theyve given up at least 4 runs on 4 straight hits without recording an out (philly and the first florida game in this series).
The bullpen hasn’t been bad this year, but we absolutely have to fine a way to bridge the gap to wagner, or at least be able to keep the game close.
Only need a solo HR to tie it u…..oh wait, joe smith came in and pitched an inning…nevermind.
Matt holiday and Fuentes for the entire minor league system
LOL, like losing much in the future?
It’s been 22 years since a title….for the right couple of impact players, I’d mortgage 11 years (half as long as we’ve been in the wilderness) of the future for a title this year.
I don’t want to be the Marlins, however. To once every ten years be good and suck every other year.
If we can get an impact bat without selling the entire farm so be it. Manny is not that guy as he is old and a rental. Ibanez sure the hell is not that guy.
try and give em beltran
beltran is the defininition of NON CLUTCH
any clutch situtation he doesnt swing the bat or misses like that lol waste of money for a career 260 hitter
gotta love when a pathetic person has to respond to their own post cause noone else cares
.260, .280 what’s the difference right?
beltran for manny. any takers?
The Sox would jump on that in 3 seconds.
Stupid trade.
The only one that might make sense was the one for Ellsbury, Manny for Beltran.
let me know when beltran gets a big hit
You mean like he did last night with the big 2 out single?
This team blows and ownership does not even care.
Manny in left in Shea would make Marlon Anderson look like a gold glover.
Carlos Beltran is a VERY GOOD player. He is not an elite player, he is only payed like one.
He is paid as the best CF in the game and that he is.
hes a GOOD player not a ver good player. u think he would have this contract if it wasnt for 2 hot weeks in the playoffs
Yes, he is still the best overall at his position and CF get paid a lot of money.
so hes better than sizemore and hamilton??? i think not..
Overall, hell yes. Those guys are not Beltan on the bases or in the OF.
Say what you want about the Yankees, at least they try. They spend the money, fine. But at least they have made moves this week to shore up their problem areas.
kevin gregg, the next mariano? we sure are making it out like that
I can’t wait to hear Omar “You know what I sayin?” Minaya on the FAN this week with all his excuses.
dude, give it a rest, this might be the first lost series against a very good team in a month.
tatis lover:
you are on a roll with those last two.
on to houston, let’s see if anything gets done.
are you being sarcastic? he has the worst attempt at comedy i’ve ever seen
Anyone on here still think the Marlins have no starting pitching and are going to fold up like an accordion?
Not that it matters at this point – but what ????
ok , quick opinions
odds brad lidge blows his first save tonight
i say 10%
0%
Again these announcers mocking Met fans for leaving. Not a peep out of these asswipes last night when Marlin fans were leaving in the 7th, that is the fans that even showed up to the game in the first place.
Meant to say Marlin fans leaving in the 7th last night.
Yeah but there used to that either way. The Marlins fans are so old that they never stay the entire game.
I think it’s time to get on Jerry Manuel a bit. When he took over one of his big things was “roles” for the bullpen guys. WTF is he doing then? Hmmmm, I’ll bring in my 8th inning guy in the 7th down one and then bring in Joe Smith (who by the way is a situational righty who is completely overexposed) to pitch the 8th b/c Heilman is unavailable after pitching 2 innings last night. WTF is this guy doing? They are now in 2nd place and need a bat and a bullpen guy. I’m all about the young guys but I want to win NOW, not in 2011. This team can not win as constructed and if I see Marlin (I know) Anderson in the lineup again I am concentrating on footbal season.
Marlon had 2 hits tonight and has a decent stick overall. He certainly is capable of putting together a nice run.
Please do not tell me you are defending Marlon as a starter. He had 2 meaningless singles and when he hits 7th followed by the ever useless Schneider and the pitcher it’s like they have 6 guys vs. 9. Come on. I understand being optimistic but that makes no sense
on selig’s desk reportedly
Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary)
Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS)
Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow
the deal for manny is done
We should start a Oliver Perez drinking game.. Every time he says “Making Pitches” in a post game interview we need to take a shot..
LOL !
“Come see my Amazing Mets. Every day I show up I see ways to lose I never knew existed.” Casey Stengel
Let Castro hit Here!!!!
pinch run Johan?
thank you for at least trying not to make gregg look good. reyes needs to step up BIG time here
Duaner Sanchez threw 9 pitches in a relatively easy 7th inning and was pulled in favor of Joe Smith without being PH for…
why?!?
if Dauner cant throw 2 innings at a time then he should go back to St. Lucie and rehab his arm up to minimal strength.
If he was pulled in favor of the constantly as of late blowing games Joe Smith, then he should probably be DFA…
Is Dauner useful or not, Jerry?
Castro comes through.
And Marlon can barely run. That hamstring is just not healing……
The site of Marlon Anderson turning the bases just cracks me up
lead off double langerhans maybe rally time in the capital
Don’t get your hopes up.
All this talk about the Mets needing another OFer, forget that. They are in serious need of bullpen help. No amount of Manny Ramirez’s will make this team WS caliber if their bullpen continues to either crap themselves or put close games out of reach.
If I were them I would have some balls and walk Reyes. I know what it puts on the bases but why would you face one Reyes if you could face Ruben Gotay JR.
But we play with no heart and fire.
pop up to the left side anyone think so too?
whyyy reyes
2 strike hole?
TAKE A PITCH REYES!!!!
If he pops up here I am going to hang myself.
tying the nuse now.
THIS TEAM SUCKS. THEY HAVE NO PEN AND NO OUTFIELD!!!!!!! WHERE ARE ALL OF YOU TATIS LOVERS?? HE IS CRASHING BACK DOWN TO EARTH NOW TOO!! BRING UP THE HALL OF FAMERS PARNELL AND NEISE AND KUNZ AND MURPHY AND F MART!! FIRE OMAR!!!
Isn’t it past your bedtime?
Shut up moron!
typical reyes out in the clutch
Just like that non-clutch three-run homer last week.
Oh, Damn. Nice try though….
Insert your Jose Reyes can’t hit in the clutch sarcastic comment here:
he comes through sometimes. but whenever he makes an out it is always to the left side of the feild
doing his best Carlos Beltran impersonation…
not even close. beltran looks lol
marlin announcers sound like they just won the world series
Well, the craptastic bullpen blew this three game series.
This bullpen crew is not going to cut it Omar. Forget your wet dreams of Manny.
B-U-L-L-P-E-N!
The worst part is that ‘hamer’ caught the last out.
Hats off to Joe Smith for keeping it close.
SEASON’S OVER!!!!
We’ll never see first again.
with the team and bullpen the way it is not. good chance we will not make it to the playoffs
Some of the fans on this board are pathetic
There you go Gip, perfect example.
phillies in first folks
Oh, no. Phillies are a .5 game up while playing the Nats as we play the Marlins in Miami. Season’s over. Pack it up boys.
Any takers on the day the Phillies fall back out of first? I say Friday.
It’s going to be like this all year folks. And apparently a lot of you don’t have the stomach or the marbles for this.
Look on the bright side, now in august when were in 3rd place the marlins and phils wont be able to block someone off the waiver wire
say what you want, but reyes and the BOTTOM of the order kept them in this game. if you want to look at another reason (other than why sanchez was lifted and not pinch hit for, and smith’s implosion) look at the 3,4,5,6 hitters…….1 for 15
Well, they can always call up a bullpen arm or an actual outfielder from their farm system,…Oh wait! They have no depth in their system.
Wasn’t that going to be one of Omar’s strength when he stood on that podium after he was hired?
yeah but when u get a woody for alou shiv changes
You could pull up Kunz, he is as ready as Smith was last year.
david wright in the 8th inning. that first pitch from joe nelson 2 years ago was a homerun to opposite feild. now he is too pull heavy…
hes too out heavy.
Talk about going for it. The Marlins get Manny and the Mets roll with a corner OF of Tatis and Church (and that’s a best case scenario). Why is Churc all of a sudden the second coming. He has been mediocre his entire career until recently. Now he is going to come back and save the Mets? I just threw up. They suck. Yes one loss and they suck.
LOL, your name is meatloaf and you just threw up. Fitting.
As for Church, is he an up grade over Endy Chavez, Anderson, Evans? If so then yes he is a nice pickup.
My question is does an upgrade over the aforementioned Evans, Chavez, Anderson make this team THAT much better? Chavez has played well. Look. I just hope Church gets healthy and plays in the 2nd half like he did in the first. He can be key but banking on his health and/or results is risky.
That’s because the Marlins have an abundance of prospects that they’ve accumulated through the draft and trades over the past few years from which to trade for a rent a player. The Mets don’t have that kind of depth in thie farm system and will not sacrifice their top two or three prospects to rent Manny for two months and I don’t blame them. They use most of their depth to obtain Santana.
BOO-YAH
JUST like I said on Sunday…..Mutts will lose the Marlin series….
CHOKERS AGAIN
FIRST PLACE IN THE NL EAST????
PHILLLLLIIEEESSS!!!
you must feel real proud of your self, beatn the nats, congratz!
You mean like the big bad MUTTS beatin up on the Giants??
You play your schedule thats all you can do…..
PHILLIES YEAH!
indeed, and the mets have an easy run in the second half. it is just too bad they don’t play the phillies any more….could have used some of those wins.
And over the next two weeks, the Phillies play the Cards, the Marlins and travel to the West Coast while the Mets play the Nats and the Padres among others.
i mean congrats on beating a crappy team philly fan. but met fans come on we cant talk.. we lost to the nats……
going into this series, the phillies were 3-3 versus the nats. they just happened to run into them while they are in the middle of their worst stretch of the season. before tonight, they scored 10 runs in their last 9 games.
Missed you last night. I’ll bet you had a big ’stock market guy’ meeting or something.
And they will fall back out of first as fast as they got there. I say by this weekend.
It’s going to be like this all year.
It must be sad not to have your own blog. You are welcome here anytime. Come on in. Meatloaf is being served.
Priceless !!
and i am sure you would have shown up had they not? not likely. i am still waiting for your beerleaguer id? but you have not responded to one of my comments yet……but since you are feeling all cocky now, i am hoping this will be the first.
phillies are in first. i will talk to you on september 31…
Son, when the Philadelphia Phillies are bounced out of the playoffs again in the first round AGAIN are you going to get on here and talk about that? I didn’t think so. The Phillies have no pitching and no pitching means no playoff wins. Have a good rest of the season, and try not to kill yourself once you realize that when the Phillies meet a team with good pitching (Mets, Cubs, Brewers) they go down where we all know there so good.
Phillies in 1st place thats all I know and you have Santana and we have Blanton
D’OH!!!!
‘you have Santana and we have Blanton’
Enough said. That about sums it up.
Still asking: how old are you?
You have no reading comprehension, can’t spell, no writing skills. All I can say is – stay in school, son. Repeat a grade if you have to.
that does not even make sense. why would you compare santana to blanton? you have chase utley, we have no one at second. see, that is dumb.
Exactly. I mean the Mets have Reyes, the Phillies have no one at SS. Or at least no one that shows up.
Well it looks like we are going to sit around and watch every single team we’re competing with make a move.
Holiday and Fuentes for
FMart
Neise
Carp
Parnell
would you do it?
IF the marlins do in fact get manny, yes.
How does he help them that much? They will still have to play the toughest schedule in the majors the rest of the way with terrible defense and average to below average pitching.
No way, Fuentes is a rental and Holliday would just be average in Shea.
That’s our #1, 2, 3 and another prospect. If it were Fmart/Niese, Parnell, Carp and an A ball guy then yes.
holliday will be our best ootfeilder
Even in defeat, this is encouraging…for the following reasons:
1. They stayed alive even through pretty big deficits
2. Muniz didn’t look horrible
3. Nor did Sanchez
4. Smith did…but with his struggles I think the front office knows they NEED to make a bullpen move
Here we go…54 games to go, 33 against crappy teams….time to make a statement
i am with you, the problem is each nite, a different guy looks horrible.
only good part of the day – niese 7 ip 7 k’s 2 bb 1 er
I can’t believe you guys can get so down on this team already. This is our first series loss since Interleague play. And for all the Bullpen bashers. It allowed just 2 runs on 3 hits in four innings. Smith wasn’t too great tonight but who’s fault is it for leaving him in that long (Jerry cough cough). Let’s get back on track against beatable Houston and San Diego clubs.
“Even in defeat, this is encouraging…for the following reasons”
LMAO….
Mutts = chokers
talk to me when you a win a playoff game this decade……..
besides, i am sure comments like that never, never, are said my phillies fans on their blogs. no. never. but you would not know anything about that would you.
i actually think you don’t even like the phillies.
Phildelphia Phillies:
Est. 1883
Pennants: 4
World Championships: 1
New York Mets:
Est. 1962
Pennants: 4
World Championships: 2
It seems to me son that the New York Mets have as many NL Pennants and twice the World Titiles in less than half the time. Now go have some cookies and milk and go to sleep.
LOL – Way past this child’s bedtime….
Yes, and the Phillies did swimmingly well in the playoffs last season.
10K losses and counting….
oh no look at this:
Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary)
Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS)
Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow
mets better do something!!!
I think the Red Sox are punishing Manny if they send him to play in front of 10,000 people in the swamp heat of Florida.
Manny is all about putting on a show for throngs of fans.
NO THEY SHOULDN’T! This season is a wash. Look I don’t like saying that either but it’s the facts. I would rather build for the next 5 years than blow it all out on this one.
The Mets are .5 games out of first in a division that is wiiiiiiiide open and you say the season is a wash?
Proof that he internet is the worst thing to have happened to sports arguments in the last 10 years.
this season is a wash? we are .5 back!!!!!
I hope I’m wrong. If I am, as I’ve stated man times on this blog, you’re welcome to beat on me untill your hearts content.
Bad,bad night to be a fanatic!–Manny finally leaves Boston-
-(no more haunting the yanks)-Goes to a division rival,
yanks make yet another deal to fill a hole w/o giving up
much,markets getting thinner makind demands higher–
And Pelphrey looks like Pelphrey again while the Bullpen
is still terrible!–Ahh the Misery! Too many of these nights
the last 35 years!
Pelfrey will be fine. He is allowed to have a bad start.
But the bullpen crap themselves again tonight. And there is nothing out there worth parting with young talent in the minors. THAT is the problem.
Is this Boston-Florida-Pitt thing confirmed?
Manny in that big outfield will be an adventure.
There’s virtually no shot that the Mets will pull off anything that will make a big difference. Since F-Mart (aka Babe Ruth) and Niese are off limits, there’s nothing to discuss.
Bigger concern is team morale if Marlins get Manny and Mets get zilch. As shown last year, this team lapses into self-pity too easily.
guarantee you FMart breaks his wrist in a bar fight tomorrow, Niese hurts his elbow and needs Tommy John and Kunze admits to a drug problem and ends up in rehab…all by midnight tomorrow…
I seriously feel dejected right now.. I know I shouldn’t but I do. We have the starting pitching to contend for a WS but lack one big bat and a reliever and it seems like we aren’t going to address either.
Hitting is not the dire issue. The bullpen is. But nothing is out there. I say bring Niese up and stick him in the bullpen and see if he sticks. Couldn’t hurt and he is certainly better than Muniz.
Niese is a starter, let him start and get innings in AAA, bring up Kunz.
I know Niese is a starter. The point is to slot him into long relief of which the Mets have NONE.
The prospects just arent there to trade. It was a gamble worth taking to do what had to be done to get Johan Santana. But if it didn’t work out this was going to be the result.
I don’t know, it seems like we would be buying real high in this trade market.
Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
I’m not trying to anger everyone here. I would just like to see the Mets build out of the farm system for a change. I really don’t want this team to turn into the Yankees light.
AGREED!
BTW I love your line about Neise being the next Jerry Koosman. The way I see it is, Oliver Perez is a free agent after this season. I have a feeling that he is going to want a kings ransom. So let him go and plug John Neise into that spot. How much money did you save there?. Call up some of these guys up. I dont want to see the top prospects babied like Lastings Milledge.
I understand that. And I think most of us want to see that happen as well. If they were 6-7 games out, okay perhaps, but .5 out when they have a soft schedule in the second half?
Not saying to mortgage the farm, but if they can address their bullpen. But as I said before, nothing is out there so they may just have to sit this deadline out. But by no means is the season a wash like you said. That’s absurd.
OK how about this. I’m not sure about John Neise because he’s a lefty, I honestly would rather trade Oliver Perez since he’s a free agent at seasons end. But if you do not trade anyone, Put Neise in the rotation and put Maine in the pen. He seems to be a natural reliever since he can’t pitch long into a game. Do you think that would help the bullpen?
At this point anything will help. Trading Ollie though is not an option. He seems to have figured things out (or should I say Warthen has). You cannot weaken your strength like that. Not with Pedro’s back and forth DL stints.
I just threw that out as a possibility. I would rather see John Niese called up and put John Maine in the pen. Or make John Niese a long reliever.. But you CAN NOT trade this guy. Dare I say it would kill the future.
Can someone please tell me why for the second time in a week Sanchez pitched the 7th and Joe Smith blew the 8th???
Is this Boston-Florida-Pitt thing confirmed???
The Nationals have a few decent arms in their pen, and the team is hideous — not too proud to trade within the division. Problem is overall state of franchise — the new stadium is okay but fan support is sort of at a critical point now — not a good time to go 50-112.