Comments on: Quote: Pelfrey Made some Stupid Pitches http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gina http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-292010 Gina Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:40:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-292010 Volquez hasn't just had a few bad starts. It's more like he's had a few good starts and a lot of bad ones the last 2 months. Also I think what happened with Maine is that he overperformed the first half and the terrible second half was just a correction. I'd say his final line was more indicative of the kind of pitcher he really is. But regardless I do think young pitchers hit some sort of wall, regardless of innings pitched, there first full season. Volquez hasn’t just had a few bad starts. It’s more like he’s had a few good starts and a lot of bad ones the last 2 months.

Also I think what happened with Maine is that he overperformed the first half and the terrible second half was just a correction. I’d say his final line was more indicative of the kind of pitcher he really is. But regardless I do think young pitchers hit some sort of wall, regardless of innings pitched, there first full season.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291987 Nate W. Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:25:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291987 something to keep in mind... Jon Niese has already pitched 9 more innings in the minors than last year. Anyone expecting help from him in Sept is probably badly misreading the Mets plans with him. Looks like about 4-5 more AAA starts and he will be done until the spring. something to keep in mind…

Jon Niese has already pitched 9 more innings in the minors than last year. Anyone expecting help from him in Sept is probably badly misreading the Mets plans with him. Looks like about 4-5 more AAA starts and he will be done until the spring.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291984 Nate W. Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:21:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291984 it would be one of the other main rotation guys. After an off day you can give every starter 5 days rest. or you can give some guys 4 and others 6. Pelf should get the extra day while someone else flip flops in front. it would be one of the other main rotation guys.

After an off day you can give every starter 5 days rest. or you can give some guys 4 and others 6. Pelf should get the extra day while someone else flip flops in front.

]]> By: AngryFan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291950 AngryFan Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:47:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291950 So the target is for him to basically throw 182IP He's on pace for 191 Eh....shouldn't be an issue down the stretch especially if he can't make it out of the 4th... So the target is for him to basically throw 182IP

He’s on pace for 191

Eh….shouldn’t be an issue down the stretch especially if he can’t make it out of the 4th…

]]> By: magic00700magic http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291941 magic00700magic Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:35:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291941 I think your right, but dont forget that the Reds hit him hard to on this most recent string of bad outings. I think your right, but dont forget that the Reds hit him hard to on this most recent string of bad outings.

]]> By: magic00700magic http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291939 magic00700magic Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:33:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291939 Not that Pelfrey was the only one.... but Mets have to learn not to throw Mike Jacobs anything down! What is so hard about that. When Stokes did it I screamed. That 2-run jack should never have happened. Jacobs is a free swinger. He should be striking out, not hitting extra-base hit after extra-base hit. Come-on guys! Not that Pelfrey was the only one…. but Mets have to learn not to throw Mike Jacobs anything down!

What is so hard about that.

When Stokes did it I screamed. That 2-run jack should never have happened. Jacobs is a free swinger. He should be striking out, not hitting extra-base hit after extra-base hit.

Come-on guys!

]]> By: dave27 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291938 dave27 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:32:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291938 Is there really a mystery to why the Marlins give Pelfrey so much trouble? we've seen the Marlins 12 times now. All the Marlins are is a bunch of young hitters who sit on fastballs and punish them. Pelfrey has been successful by relying on his fastball. Sure location factors into it, but they are looking fastball all the time and punishing when they come. Are we surprised until his last outing Jamie Moyer had these guys stifled? It's amazing teams haven't figured out the Marlins...or Pelfrey the way only the Marlins have. Honestly if you say "Marlins" to me I immediately get an image of Cody freaking Ross drilling a fat fastball. Or Mike Jacobs. Or (insert Marlin under 30 here). Point is, doesn't make me overly concerned about Pelfrey, but he needs to alter his approach against this team...as they all say baseball is a game of adjustments. The Marlins have adjusted to Pelfrey. Other teams are going to follow suit. It's going to be Pelf's move again. Is there really a mystery to why the Marlins give Pelfrey so much trouble? we’ve seen the Marlins 12 times now. All the Marlins are is a bunch of young hitters who sit on fastballs and punish them. Pelfrey has been successful by relying on his fastball. Sure location factors into it, but they are looking fastball all the time and punishing when they come.

Are we surprised until his last outing Jamie Moyer had these guys stifled?

It’s amazing teams haven’t figured out the Marlins…or Pelfrey the way only the Marlins have. Honestly if you say “Marlins” to me I immediately get an image of Cody freaking Ross drilling a fat fastball. Or Mike Jacobs. Or (insert Marlin under 30 here).

Point is, doesn’t make me overly concerned about Pelfrey, but he needs to alter his approach against this team…as they all say baseball is a game of adjustments. The Marlins have adjusted to Pelfrey. Other teams are going to follow suit. It’s going to be Pelf’s move again.

]]> By: There's Always '09 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291936 There's Always '09 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:21:57 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291936 It depends on who they are skipping him in favor of. If Maine can't come back, and we are talking about another guy getting the call from AAA, I would start Pelfrey. He is obviously one of our best. It depends on who they are skipping him in favor of. If Maine can’t come back, and we are talking about another guy getting the call from AAA, I would start Pelfrey. He is obviously one of our best.

]]> By: There's Always '09 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291935 There's Always '09 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:20:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291935 I think some pitchers' bodies are built for the long haul. Pelfrey's size and strength definitely help him out. He is theoretically less "arm" and more "body" when he throws, which is always a good thing for a pitcher. But there also needs to be a happy medium between how you handle a guy like him, with a fragile Pedro, and injured Maine in the rotation. Especially with a beleaguered bullpen. I think some pitchers’ bodies are built for the long haul. Pelfrey’s size and strength definitely help him out. He is theoretically less “arm” and more “body” when he throws, which is always a good thing for a pitcher.

But there also needs to be a happy medium between how you handle a guy like him, with a fragile Pedro, and injured Maine in the rotation. Especially with a beleaguered bullpen.

]]> By: krispy644 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291933 krispy644 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:15:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/11/quote-pelfrey-made-some-stupid-pitches/#comment-291933 damn I dont know about IP half the time. same thing happened with Maine last year, look what happened to him. Edinson Volquez is making his first full season in the majors and he's been brilliant (has had a couple of bad starts; lately has been getting knocked around) what will it have to take to go over your season high in your first major league season as a SP? or is it that some pitchers are just built better physically? damn I dont know about IP half the time. same thing happened with Maine last year, look what happened to him. Edinson Volquez is making his first full season in the majors and he’s been brilliant (has had a couple of bad starts; lately has been getting knocked around)

what will it have to take to go over your season high in your first major league season as a SP? or is it that some pitchers are just built better physically?

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