Comments on: Note: Solutions in the Bullpen http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bogar http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-294120 Bogar Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:04:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-294120 Here's what I'm getting at... Mets led by 7 games exactly 2 days the entire season. To say they blew a 7 gm lead makes it sound like they had that lead a little more than 2 days. Most of the year their lead was 2, 3, 4 games, that area. The Phillies were 2 1/2 gms better than the Mets in June. 3 games better in July. 1 game better in August. At the end of August they were 2 games out. Then they went on a losing streak while Mets on a winning streak. That's the coincidence. Mets lead got to 7. For the second and last day of the season. Then both reverted to the mean...Mets cooled off, Phils played better. And the lead was right back to the area it was for most of the season, in the 2, 3, 4 game size. Here’s what I’m getting at…

Mets led by 7 games exactly 2 days the entire season.

To say they blew a 7 gm lead makes it sound like they had that lead a little more than 2 days.

Most of the year their lead was 2, 3, 4 games, that area.

The Phillies were 2 1/2 gms better than the Mets in June.

3 games better in July.

1 game better in August.

At the end of August they were 2 games out.

Then they went on a losing streak while Mets on a winning streak. That’s the coincidence. Mets lead got to 7. For the second and last day of the season.

Then both reverted to the mean…Mets cooled off, Phils played better.

And the lead was right back to the area it was for most of the season, in the 2, 3, 4 game size.

]]> By: Gina http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293965 Gina Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:53:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293965 This was pretty much the gist of the reply I tried posting. Also that it would keep him from exceeding his innings total from last year by a huge number. increasing a young pitchers innings to much to fast is one of the quickest ways to blow out his arm. And like eric said Pelfrey throws heat, which no one in our bullpen, other than Wagner does. This was pretty much the gist of the reply I tried posting. Also that it would keep him from exceeding his innings total from last year by a huge number. increasing a young pitchers innings to much to fast is one of the quickest ways to blow out his arm. And like eric said Pelfrey throws heat, which no one in our bullpen, other than Wagner does.

]]> By: ericfromwestchester http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293870 ericfromwestchester Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:14:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293870 The issue with Pelf is that he's pushing his innings and that he could possibly be hitting a wall (I believe he's had bad starts 2 of his last 3 after being on that ridiculous win streak, although I may be mistaken). He also is one of the few Mets pitchers that consistently throws real heat (95-96 MPH range) which makes him preferable for key situations, when we need strikeouts rather than ground/fly outs. The issue with Pelf is that he’s pushing his innings and that he could possibly be hitting a wall (I believe he’s had bad starts 2 of his last 3 after being on that ridiculous win streak, although I may be mistaken). He also is one of the few Mets pitchers that consistently throws real heat (95-96 MPH range) which makes him preferable for key situations, when we need strikeouts rather than ground/fly outs.

]]> By: Chan Ho Parking Lot http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293834 Chan Ho Parking Lot Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:27:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293834 Well, he is signed for next year at a very high price. Unless Omar finds a taker (which isn't likely), be prepared to see him again to open CitiField. Well, he is signed for next year at a very high price. Unless Omar finds a taker (which isn’t likely), be prepared to see him again to open CitiField.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman II http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293829 Free Aaron Heilman II Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:19:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293829 OK, gotcha. :smile: If you're saying using a starter is a "put more air in your tires" solution, then that's OK with me. It's not meant to be long-term. Why can't they mix things up and do things out of the box? Omar was supposed to be an out-of-the-box thinker but I haven't seen much of that, especially when it comes to utilizing the farm system. They need to do something instead of just accepting the losing from the bullpen. Heilman in 2005 and 2006 should have been a temporary "put more air in your tires" solution instead of a permanent one, but they want to keep using him in a role he's not suited for. OK, gotcha. :smile:

If you’re saying using a starter is a “put more air in your tires” solution, then that’s OK with me. It’s not meant to be long-term. Why can’t they mix things up and do things out of the box? Omar was supposed to be an out-of-the-box thinker but I haven’t seen much of that, especially when it comes to utilizing the farm system.

They need to do something instead of just accepting the losing from the bullpen.

Heilman in 2005 and 2006 should have been a temporary “put more air in your tires” solution instead of a permanent one, but they want to keep using him in a role he’s not suited for.

]]> By: toomanyuniforms http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293820 toomanyuniforms Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:09:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293820 There was a McCain/ Obama flap about a recommendation to improve mileage by making sure tires were fully inflated -- nice idea, nowhere near a long-term solution to a complex problem. Hence, the analogy. Both sides ended up looking bad. I'll leave it there, lest the Pavlovian political responses pile up. There was a McCain/ Obama flap about a recommendation to improve mileage by making sure tires were fully inflated — nice idea, nowhere near a long-term solution to a complex problem. Hence, the analogy. Both sides ended up looking bad. I’ll leave it there, lest the Pavlovian political responses pile up.

]]> By: Gina http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293812 Gina Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:01:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293812 You realize we're talking about owners who hired Steve Phillips and Jim Duquette. If they fire Omar Tony B will probably be our next gm. You realize we’re talking about owners who hired Steve Phillips and Jim Duquette. If they fire Omar Tony B will probably be our next gm.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman II http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293790 Free Aaron Heilman II Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:42:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293790 Maybe you aren't paying attention but Sheff can no longer hit or field. But he's still a malcontent who causes problems. Maybe you aren’t paying attention but Sheff can no longer hit or field. But he’s still a malcontent who causes problems.

]]> By: vwrook http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293787 vwrook Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:41:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293787 that was hardly an obscure movie... it was even nominated for an oscar that was hardly an obscure movie… it was even nominated for an oscar

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman II http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293786 Free Aaron Heilman II Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:40:27 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/12/note-solutions-in-the-bullpen/#comment-293786 I said "smart money." Show and Mota are dumb money. I was also advocating Mahay. I don't understand Omar's penchant for signing pitchers with bad (or suspect, ie steroids) numbers when there are pitchers to be had with good numbers -- ie, Bradford and Mahay. And then he wastes his money on Alou and El Duque and wanted to throw money at Posada this offseason? That's incompetence. <b> Oh, and put some air in your tires. That’s the Toomany Plan!</b> Huh? Don't understand those comments. I said “smart money.” Show and Mota are dumb money.

I was also advocating Mahay. I don’t understand Omar’s penchant for signing pitchers with bad (or suspect, ie steroids) numbers when there are pitchers to be had with good numbers — ie, Bradford and Mahay.

And then he wastes his money on Alou and El Duque and wanted to throw money at Posada this offseason? That’s incompetence.

Oh, and put some air in your tires. That’s the Toomany Plan!

Huh? Don’t understand those comments.

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