Comments on: Quote: It’s Good to see the Bullpen Peforming http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim in LA http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-295104 Tim in LA Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:20:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-295104 That's just not true, dude. His best years were 2004-6, and his fastball averaged 92.6 mph. This year it's 91.2. And you can say that's a one and a half point drop off, but the truth is, he's just worrying about location more and spotting it better. He's throwing the fastball a bit more often, and his other pitches a bit less, using the well-placed fastball to set hitters up. When he wants to, he reaches back and hits 96. That’s just not true, dude. His best years were 2004-6, and his fastball averaged 92.6 mph. This year it’s 91.2.

And you can say that’s a one and a half point drop off, but the truth is, he’s just worrying about location more and spotting it better. He’s throwing the fastball a bit more often, and his other pitches a bit less, using the well-placed fastball to set hitters up. When he wants to, he reaches back and hits 96.

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That’s the thing — statheads don’t focus on stats any more than baseball fans always have. They just find better stats. While Old-School Joe Morgan is talking about a pitchers wins and losses, statheads are digging deeper.

But everyone fears change, and even moreso fears what they don’t understand, and so ignorant people like Cerrone feel they have to take pot-shots to keep their egos full.

]]> By: wrightstuff08 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294998 wrightstuff08 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:27:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294998 Santana's strikeouts are down because he has lost 2-3 mph on his fastball. He used to consistently throw 94-95 mph with the Twins. The speed difference between his changeup and fastball is less and hitters can adjust to hitting a fastball when it is slower. Santana’s strikeouts are down because he has lost 2-3 mph on his fastball. He used to consistently throw 94-95 mph with the Twins. The speed difference between his changeup and fastball is less and hitters can adjust to hitting a fastball when it is slower.

]]> By: wrightstuff08 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294993 wrightstuff08 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:20:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294993 lol, i guess these idiots that complain about Santana, would rather have Kenny Rogers, Steve Trachsel or Victor Zambrano pitching for us. lol, i guess these idiots that complain about Santana, would rather have Kenny Rogers, Steve Trachsel or Victor Zambrano pitching for us.

]]> By: patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294937 patrick Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:56:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294937 the only thing I can criticize Johan on is his strikeouts, he has definitely lost something or is having a hard time getting his slider to move and his change up to fool hitters. Hopefully it is just a blip on the radar, but guys who are still healthy usually do not have down years for K's and then bounce back. the only thing I can criticize Johan on is his strikeouts, he has definitely lost something or is having a hard time getting his slider to move and his change up to fool hitters.

Hopefully it is just a blip on the radar, but guys who are still healthy usually do not have down years for K’s and then bounce back.

]]> By: patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294934 patrick Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:53:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294934 yada yada you could say the exact same for the offense about the bums they were facing yada yada you could say the exact same for the offense about the bums they were facing

]]> By: HoJoWright http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294929 HoJoWright Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:44:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294929 totally agree. Castro should have hit and as long as he doesn't hit into a DP, then you can have Murph bat for Santana. escaped one there but still no add'l runs. totally agree. Castro should have hit and as long as he doesn’t hit into a DP, then you can have Murph bat for Santana. escaped one there but still no add’l runs.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294926 Nate W. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:41:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294926 Sanchez hasn't been 'dirty' but he has been effective. Check out his last 7 appearances, he has had just one bad appearance where he hit the first batter. Other than that its been scoreless inning, and he's even cleaned up someone else's mess a couple times. He should be given the 8th inning man role again, imo. He just cant seem to handle the closing. Sanchez hasn’t been ‘dirty’ but he has been effective. Check out his last 7 appearances, he has had just one bad appearance where he hit the first batter. Other than that its been scoreless inning, and he’s even cleaned up someone else’s mess a couple times. He should be given the 8th inning man role again, imo. He just cant seem to handle the closing.

]]> By: iso http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294922 iso Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:34:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294922 smarten up - how do you have the ballz to bash Johan?! It's like a hobby for some of you - regardless of what he does, figure out something to complain about smarten up – how do you have the ballz to bash Johan?! It’s like a hobby for some of you – regardless of what he does, figure out something to complain about

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294915 ravi3 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:19:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/08/13/quote-its-good-to-see-the-bullpen-peforming/#comment-294915 A lot more strikeouts for him earlier in the season too. It seems like he has started pitching to contact more, so he avoids those high pitch counts earlier in games. A lot more strikeouts for him earlier in the season too. It seems like he has started pitching to contact more, so he avoids those high pitch counts earlier in games.

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