Matthew Cerrone

News: Castillo’s Clock is Ticking
By Matthew Cerrone - Aug 18, 2008 8:08 am

Ryan Church and Trot Nixon will continue their rehab assignment with Triple-A New Orleans, so to avoid Tropical Storm Fay in Port St. Lucie.

Meanwhile, according to Adam Rubin, in the Daily News, “Luis Castillo’s 20-day minor-league rehab clock is set to run out midweek, meaning the Mets may be forced to activate the second baseman on Thursday unless a legitimate injury issue remains.”

Castillo is batting .077 in 11 games during his rehab assignment.

the Mets are a better team with Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes playing second base, then they were in the start of the season with Castillo, which is not to say he is the reason they win and lose…it’s just, things are going well as is, and i’d hate to see them mess with a good thing…

Jerry Manuel seemingly rewards people who perform, so it’s hard to imagine how this scenario will play out, though it will be an interesting test to see what the organization values: putting its best team on the field, or justifying a poor contract

130 Responses to “News: Castillo’s Clock is Ticking”

  1. Danny says:

    …the Mets are a better team with Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes playing second base, then they were in the start of the season with Castillo.

    Easley: 260 AB, .265/.314/.354/.668
    A Reyes: 75 AB, .280/.316/.320/.636

    Castillo: 245 AB, .261/.365/.331/.696

    Not really. It’s the other 7 position players that have picked up their games.

    • One Day This Team Will Kill Me says:

      Its not only numbers that determine whether a team is better, coincidence or not, the Mets have been much better since Castillo has been out

      • Danny says:

        Coincidence. The other guys are playing better. It’s not the second baseman that are lifting this team.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Enough with the stats. Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does. That doesn’t show up in a stat line.

          Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.

        • Danny says:

          Instead of logic and reason, use your bias.

          It works better.

        • mikey_FF says:

          No … use your eyes and watch whats happening on the field. You’re using stats to make a case for YOUR bias.

        • Danny says:

          You think I don’t watch the games?

          I’m making logical arguments instead of, “I’m smart and I see things that other people don’t”.

          I sort of understand what’s happening when I watch baseball. And we are overrating Easley and A Reyes’ contribution to this team.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Luis Castillo is a black hole to this team. He hurts the team as a two hitter … he hurts the team as an 8 hitter. Just the way the lineup is set up … he’s a bad fit.

          They are better without him. Period.

          I didn’t say you don’t watch the games. I said stop making a big deal about stupid stat lines to justify why you like him so much. There is more to a baseball player than numbers.

        • mikey_FF says:

          …and it has nothing to do with being “smart”. It’s pretty simple to watch with your eyes and not going all “technical” with stats.

        • Danny says:

          He hurts the team with his .360+ OBP?

        • mikey_FF says:

          Exactly the response I would expect from you. Another stat.

        • Danny says:

          Exactly what I expected from you. An unsubstantiated and weak opinion.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Or the fact, I know I am using stats bad me, that A. Reyes strikes out twice as much as Castillo. That’s great for a 2 hitter. But then you would say, oh but he hits it out of the infield, I guess that explains why A. Reyes’ SLG is 45 points lower. How in the heck do you even have a SLG percentage 45 points lower than Castillo and not bunt EVERY time?

          Fact still remains that your eyes are obviously lying.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Right, because I don’t judge stats to evaluate what I see. Since you do that … you’re the smarter one … and your opinion is substantiated and strong.

          He’s a bad fit for the team … and my weak and unsubstantiated opinion is shared by a lot of people. I guess a lot of us are “stupid”.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Oh look who jumped in to the conversation … the luiscastillofan club … i mean therealsince86.

          What a shocker.

        • therealsince86 says:

          MikeyFF explain to us what you see. Do you see a guy that’s faster? A guy that gets on base more? A guy with more energy? How do you compare him with other teams 2B? Just the ones that you see? If you don’t see Mark Ellis how do you judge him?

          Baseball is stats, I agree sometimes you can make them say what you want but when every number tells the same thing you have to think it’s your eyes lying and not the numbers.

        • therealsince86 says:

          MikeyFF did you read my other post. I said the best thing for this team is a healthy Luis Castillo. Right now we don’t know if we have that or not. If we do not then I am fine with Easley being there. I just want no part of Reyes. The guy just can’t hit. He has 75 AB’s and it took a 3/4 game to get his OBP above .300.

        • mikey_FF says:

          I see a guy who is a bad fit for the Mets constructed lineup … plain and simple.

          You love him as your 2 hitter though … so lets not argue for 3 hours over it.

        • Danny says:

          Not stupid at all. Biased.

          The winning makes any weaknesses more palatable. That’s all.

        • mikey_FF says:

          …and why are you making this about A. Reyes? Easley is the guy getting the bulk of the playing time.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Danny, I’m not biased. I’ve been saying the same thing about him when they were losing.

        • CitizenSnips says:

          I dunno about you guys but .077 in the minors is stellar hitting I’ll tell you what. Yep…

        • Danny says:

          You’re entitled to your opinion, of course. I just disagree.

          The important thing is that Castillo shouldn’t come back unless he is actually healthy, like therealsicne86 mentioned further down in this thread.

          He’s not helping anyone by playing hurt. And his rehab stint has not been going so well.

        • therealsince86 says:

          I do not want Castillo to be the 2 hitter right now. I think that should go to Murphy or Evans for now. I just don’t want to see Reyes there. And why am I making this about Reyes? Because Easley is old and if you notice is getting less and less PT at 2B. He won’t hold up the entire season.

          I know you don’t like stats but here’s one for you. Since August 7th A Reyes has started 7/11 games we have played. Now if my great stat mind serves me correctly it would seem that Reyes is getting the bulk of the playing time.

        • mikey_FF says:

          I agree with that. I don’t think he’s going to be 100% healthy for the remainder of his contract though, unfortunately.

        • therealsince86 says:

          I don’t think he has to be 100%. Look at the numbers he put up last season while needing surgery. I know the were just stats but the guy hit .300 with a .360 OBP and put up good 2B numbers. All while playing above average in the field.

        • mikey_FF says:

          haha … the past week’s stats of who played more just serve your argument better. Lets not look at the number of AB’s since Castillo went down.

          OK well you don’t want Castillo hitting 2 anymore … yet you thought it was horrible for him to hit 8th as you’ve said many times.

          Like I said … he’s a bad fit. They are better off without him.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Never thought it was horrible for Castillo to hit 8th. I just did not think that the offense could stand one of their power hitters hitting 2nd. Remeber at the time, Tatis did not really exist, Delgado was terrible, Beltran was struggling. We could not score runs so having a guy with a high OBP in the 2nd spot was necessary. Now with Murphy and Tatis doing well and Delgado doing much better the lineup can stand a change.
          Reyes, Murphy/Evans, Wright, Delgado, Beltran, Tatis, Schnieder/Castro, Easley/Castillo is not a bad lineup at all.

        • therealsince86 says:

          And what’s the point of looking at the numbers since Castillo went down? Would it not be better to look at why he has played so much recently? Do you think it’s because he got hot? He was 1/15 before he actually did get hot the last 4 games.
          My point is that because Easley is old, Reyes will get more starts than he will for the next month. So it does matter.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Well, that made sense. I agree with you. The fact that you put a / in between Easley and Castillo says a lot.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Easley is old. Castillo is old. Maybe younger than Easley age wise but his body is a different story.

          I’ll take whatever platoon of Easley/Reyes over Castillo … 10 times out of 10.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Well then you are just wrong and I need to move on. If you can’t use anything but your eyes to back it up then I am wasting my time. This team would be much better with last year’s Castillo starting and Easley able to give anyone on the infield and break and A. Reyes given the Gotay treatment.

        • mikey_FF says:

          You’re right, I’m wrong. Thanks for setting me straight oh great one. :)

      • mjg283 says:

        >>Enough with the stats.<>Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.<>That doesn’t show up in a stat line.<>Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.<<

        But if I watched a big enough sample of games, one would expect the stuff I see to show up in the stats, no?

      • mjg283 says:

        “Enough with the stats.”

        Yeah, man. Stop using stats to compare players. That’s just crazy.

        “Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.”

        Um, that kind of sounds like a stat.

        “That doesn’t show up in a stat line.”

        Last I checked, total RBI and number of sac flies were in fact stats. But, yes, if your point is that the number of runs driven in specifically by ground-outs doesn’t show up in the stat line, well-played!!

        “Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.”

        But if I watched a big enough sample of games, one would expect the stuff I see to show up in the stats, no?

        • mikey_FF says:

          Stats can be misleading.

        • mikey_FF says:

          ““Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.”

          Um, that kind of sounds like a stat.”

          Oh, and at the top of the thread, where he posted stats … he kind of left RBI’s off. So what’s your point?

        • Nohitterthisyear says:

          Eyes can mislead as much if not more than stats.

          Stats are not biased. Eyes can be.

          Whether you are concious of it or not, you will see things differently if you are predisposed to feel one way. Some are capable of being completely neutral, but not most.

          If you start off thinking Easley/Reyes are better, you will tend to remember the good things you see, and brush off or forget the bad. It’s human nature.

          There are so many small things in baseball that can affect winning/losing. There is no way that the absence of castillo is solely responsible for the Mets current state of play.

          No one was hitting on this team besides church when castillo was playing. Plus, castillo was one of the few that were good with RISP. Pelfrey was bad, Perez was still the old Ollie, and Delgado was a black hole in the line up.

          I don’t think Castillo leaving suddenly made Delgado remember how to hit. I don’t think Castillo is responsible for Murphy tearing it up, or Perez and Pelfrey figuring out how to pitch.

          IMO, it’s a wash. Having Castillo(healthy) makes the bench much better though. Easley/Reyes are NOT responsible for our good play, as much as Castillo WAS responible for our bad play.

        • mikey_FF says:

          I know exactly what you’re saying and there is truth to that. But it goes both ways. People who like Castillo are biased on the other side … some of those people use stats to justify that player.

          Why does anyone have to try so hard to justify Luis Castillo? That’s my point. He’s not good enough to put so much energy into defending.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Underdog mentality Mikey. Castillo has been ripped on here from day 1 by a lot of people who never back up their statements.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Come on. He’s not an underdog. He’s an aging player. He’s got a ring … he’s been a winning player. He’s just not anymore.

          If you were rooting for an underdog you would argue for A. Reyes.

          Saying Castillo is an underdog is a cop out.

    • casey s. says:

      I don’t if numbers alone does an adequate job of telling the story. Castillo really heated up toward the end of his run before the injury if memory serves. But, there are a lot of factors that enter into the equation:

      1. His defense/range is poor
      2. As a table setter, he’s not good anymore. Will Jerry hit him 7th or 8th?
      3. He has zero pop in his bat, which Easley does and it comes in handy in a big spot.

      I could go on, but I have to go.

    • ridethesnake says:

      He said the Mets are a better team with A-Rey and Easley, he didn’t say that their stats were better.

      Part of the equation is that the other players, for the second year in a row, seem to play worse when Castillo is in the lineup. While it may be a coincidence, it is alarming.

      Since June 5:
      7-15 when Castillo plays
      31-13 when he doesn’t play

      In 2007:
      21-24 with Castillo playing
      66-50 when he didn’t

      • ridethesnake says:

        correction: 67-50 when he didn’t play in 2007

        • Danny says:

          And Castillo is singlehandedly responsible for that poor record.

          It’s not that Delgado suddenly found his stroke or Tatis emerged out of nowhere? Or that Pelfrey and Oliver Peres found themselves?

          Or are we blaming Castillo for their poor performances earlier this year.

          Look, I’m happy with how the Mets have done since Castillo left, but let’s not act like it’s the second base platoon that is making this team win. It’s everyone else.

          A Reyes/Easley have been adequate at best.

        • HOFMets57 says:

          Can’t argue with those numbers.

          Castillo isn’t a horrible player. It’s the type of game he brings to the field that rubs off on other players.

          His knees have obviously crippled his range defensively (worst RZR among starting 2B) and his offensive game (speed, can no longer run out infield hits).

          Castillo was among the league leaders in GIDP (grounding into double plays) before he went down and will continue to do so because of his physical ailments.

          3 more years, eh Omar?

        • Danny says:

          You can’t just look at RZR for an indicator of defensive range. You have to look at RZR and OOZ, and Easley has made 2 out of zone plays all year. Castillo has made 13. That is a staggering difference when you play behind the same staff.

        • ridethesnake says:

          Danny, no one said he is single handedly responsible for losing. You are using hyperbole to refute the facts. There are many reasons the Mets have been winning, but one of them, undeniably, is that it coincides with Castillo being out, and one thing you cannot prove is whether or not players play better with Castillo out, as rumored to be the case in 2007.

          Again, it’s not the only reason, and no one except you said the new 2bmen were why they were winning now.

        • CitizenSnips says:

          Castillo doesn’t try for balls though. Him and Delgado were experts at watching balls float right between them without so much as a turn of their heads.

        • ridethesnake says:

          That can become contagious.

        • Danny says:

          …the Mets are a better team with Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes playing second base, then they were in the start of the season with Castillo, which is not to say he is the reason they win and lose…it’s just, things are going well as is, and i’d hate to see them mess with a good thing…

          This is what I have a problem with. Matt is essentially selling the new second base platoon with a causal relationship for the team getting better. And it’s simply not true.

          Castillo has outperformed that platoon across the board. The other components of the team have improved. THAT is the reason the Mets have been great since Castillo went down. The team’s success has nothing to do with the new second base platoon.

        • Danny says:

          Castillo doesn’t try for balls yet he has 13 out of zone defensive plays this year and Easley only has 2.

          So I guess Easley really doesn’t try for balls either.

          Look, I know he moves around like he’s wounded, but he was not the reason for this team’s struggles, and his absence is not the reason for the team’s recent improvement.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Well said Danny. I still don’t get all the love for A. Reyes. He is basically Castillo with a low OBP. It took a 3 hit game for his OBP to finally get over .300. He hurts the team batting 2nd way more than Castillo ever could.

          The best thing for the team right now would be a healthy Luis Castillo to be playing 2B. Problem is that we do not know if we have that or not. The team is much stronger with Easley on the bench for the stretch to give the IF a break.

        • Danny says:

          Thanks man. Easley also tends to get exposed when he plays too much. The guy is 38 years old, after all. That is to be expected.

          Easley over the last month of baseball: 79 PA, .205/.266/.288/.554

          I love him as a backup IF and a bat off the bench with a little pop.

        • dcmetsfan says:

          There is an irrational hatred for Luis Castillo in these parts. It might be the contract, but I also think it has to do with the fact that he is obviously declining as a ballplayer. But even in decline he’s a better everyday player than either Easley or A. Reyes.

          Look, A. Reyes provided a nice little spark when he first came up, but the guy has done little since. Easley has a little pop, but he’s much better coming off the bench or spot starting.

      • jws366 says:

        A lot of people were saying that one of the reasons why Jose Reyes’ production fell off near the end of last season was due to the addition of Luis Castillo. Apparently Castillo started going with him to bars and clubs, something that Jose didn’t do as often before, and because of that Reyes wasn’t as rested.

        …Just what I heard….doesn’t mean its true.

  2. casey s. says:

    Well, you’d have to get them to admit to themselves and the public that they made a huge mistake with the Castillo contract, which I doubt they will. Knowing what I could know from observing Omar (from a distance) over the years, his personality seemingly will not allow him to do this.

    I really hope they do something surprising, I really do.

    • rustysribs says:

      The reality is that the second base scenario is adequate at best with either Easley/Reyes or Castillo. But, at least with Easley/Reyes you have more of the “rainmaker” possibilities. With Castillo, you know exactly what you are getting…..IF he’s healthy. For my money, I’d rather keep the platoon and the chemistry we now have. It’s obviously working.

      • therealsince86 says:

        What exactly is a rainmaker posibility? If it is anything to do with power, Reyes has a LOWER OBP than Castillo.

        • rustysribs says:

          Meaning Easley has come through in some clutch situations and A.Reyes shows excitement and energy. Maybe rainmaker isn’t an accurate description but regardless, I feel better with this platoon.

      • ghobot says:

        and makes the bench weaker. There are more things linked to the mets winning then a reyes….

        • rustysribs says:

          You may be right, but Castillo isn’t linking the mets to victories either. I prefer not to mess with what is obviously working.

  3. MetalMet says:

    Wasn’t Castillo one of the few guys in the lineup with a good average with RISP early on when everyone else was stinking up the place?

    I think the teams resurgence has more to do with Delgado’s hotstreak and the emergence of Tatis than Castillo’s absence.

    • MetalMet says:

      Not to mention the insane numbers Reyes has been putting up.

      • ridethesnake says:

        Well, no one would say that simply removing Luis Castillo would result in instant wins, it’s a lot of things… but it seems this is one of them.

        That said, based on his career numbers and relatively young age, I am willing to give his knees one more chance to show they are healed from the surgery in the offseason that he obviously rushed back from.

  4. teufelshuffle86 says:

    Anybody know Jeff Gillulli’s phone number?

  5. Dirtysanchez says:

    Well at the very least it will be interesting. Im sure we will see castillo playing and reyes going down.

    • Dirtysanchez says:

      as bad as the contract looks now, it was necessary at the time in order to have a 2b this year. Nobody could have predicted the production of easly and reyes and im sure noone would want to give our 2b starting job to either of those two for a whole year. Yes it looks like a bad contract now and i dont blame omar for what he did, when he did it. Like someone mentioned earlier, castillo was heating up right before his injury. Lets hope he can find it again.

      • therealsince86 says:

        It was a bad contract in years but not in money. Wait until you see what O Hudson gets. I know he is much better than Castillo but he is looking for 6 years 60 million. Hmmm. 4-24, 6-60…….
        Houston was willing to give 3/21 and we gave 4/24.

        Do you really think based on his track record he is done? People saying he can’t get the infield hit, have you bothered looking at his stats to prove this? Have you noticed the SB’s even while injured? Have you ever watched him when healthy? I am willing to bet that during the offseason even with this season that if we ate one more year off the contract by giving another team 6 million we could easily get rid of the contract. There would be teams out there that would take Castillo for 3 years 12 million.

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          I never said he was done real. All i said was i hope he comes back as hot as he was before the injury. His stats at the begining of the year was pretty bad.
          Yes im sure there could be takers for castillos contract for that amount but i dont think the mets are going to do this. Lets say we do though..would you trust the starting job to areyes? Would you spend more money to fill another hole when it can be spent elsewhere?

        • therealsince86 says:

          Not at all. I am saying that if a guy were to fall in our laps like Roberts or Hudson for cheaper than what I expect or if Murphy actually works all winter on 2B THEN it would be an option. I am fine with Castillo being our 2B next season hitting in the 2 or 8 spot.

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          Same here. Like you said earlier it would be interesting to see what a healthy castillo looks like. I wouldnt want to make another hole if i dont have to going into next season. If we can get roberts/hudson and you have murphy picking up 2b over the winter than you have to seriously look at that plan of yours about shopping castillo. Otherwise im fine with castillo for 2b and muphy backing him up.

  6. dcmetsfan says:

    The Mets have played better since Luis Castillo was put on the DL. Therefore the Luis Castillo’s absence from the lineup must be a contributing factor towards the Mets resurgence, right?

    Hmm, I’ve heard arguments of this sort before.

    Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.

    Lisa: That’s specious reasoning, Dad.

    Homer: Thank you, dear.

    Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.

    Homer: Oh, how does it work?

    Lisa: It doesn’t work.

    Homer: Uh-huh.

    Lisa: It’s just a stupid rock.

    Homer: Uh-huh.

    Lisa: But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?

    [Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]

    Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

  7. BiggieSmalls says:

    Castillo was pinch hit for in yesterdays Bingo game after two at bats (0-1 with a walk) because he “needed rest” fromplaying the night before

    c’mon.

    • anrst says:

      are you sure it wasn’t his .077 avg that got him pinch hit for? I mean, even in the minors they play to win too.

      • BiggieSmalls says:

        thats what Rubin wrote in the DN

        /www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2008/08/17/2008-08-17_no_hurry_for_luis_castillo_to_return_as_.html

    • therealsince86 says:

      Obviously he is not ready. Maybe he just wants to take this season off and actually get healthy instead of being rushed back.

  8. patrick says:

    Everyone jump to conclusions the same way many people jumped to conclusions that trading Lastings Milledge for Schnieder and Church was terrible, having anything to do with Tatis was terrible, keeping Damion Easley on this roster was terrible, Delgado should have been released he was terrible, terrible terrible terrible.

    The real question is not Castillo’s ability as a baseball player but Castillos ability as a healthy baseball player which he simply appears to not be.

    • jws366 says:

      I jumped to the coclusion that it would be a GREAT deal for us. No one really listened to me tho. Check the stats from last year and note that of people with a significant amount of ABs, Ryan Church was SECOND in all of baseball with doubles per AB. He was behind only David Ortiz.

      My conclusion on Luis Castillo is that he is TERRIBLE.

  9. anrst says:

    at least easley is capable of a sac fly

    • therealsince86 says:

      Do you know what Castillo’s average is with RISP and RISP/W2Out?

      • jws366 says:

        Yeah, but how many of those singles (because you know he only hits singles) were light tappers or infield hits that just moved the guy from second to third. I’d be interested to see RBI/AB with RISP, that should be the real stat that people consider.

  10. dave27 says:

    This is a lot of pointless debate…the point here was that major league rules dictate the Metws activate Castillo from his rehab. You can’t just bury a guy in the minors who doesn’t have options in the name of rehab.

    They are not going to release Castillo. That would be stupid. He’s been disappointing, but he’s not useless as a ballplayer, and it’s much smarter organizationally to hold on to him and send Reyes down for basically 2 weeks, before he can return on 9/1.

    I think the debate will take hold when setting postseason rosters is being decided. and I’d agree that Castillo needs to show alot down the stretch to get a spot.

  11. dave27 says:

    This is a lot of pointless debate…the point here was that major league rules dictate the Mets activate Castillo from his rehab. You can’t just bury a guy in the minors who doesn’t have options in the name of rehab.

    They are not going to release Castillo. That would be stupid. He’s been disappointing, but he’s not useless as a ballplayer, and it’s much smarter organizationally to hold on to him and send Reyes down for basically 2 weeks, before he can return on 9/1.

    I think the debate will take hold when setting postseason rosters is being decided. and I’d agree that Castillo needs to show alot down the stretch to get a spot.

  12. 0h the ag0ny says:

    i think what people are TRYing to imply is that while yes CASTILLo stats are better then DAMION && ARGENIS… he hurts the team.

    More range then DAMION? sure he has more but DAMION doesnt make the kind of bonehead errors that CASTILLO has made thus not hurting the team.

    DAMION also doesnt get enough credit with what he does at the plate.. CASTILLO stats? OBP? their bloated … && they honestly have meant nothing to this team while he was up.

    alot of you stat guys judge this by numbers which is fair because thats how we judge a player… but in fairness its hard to argue how mentally tought this team has been since this guy left with injury. we havent been making any errors! effort sticks out now with this team && you can see everyone working hard.

    With CASTILLO you see a boring player that slows down the game && the tempo for his team. Stats arent everything.

    THINK BOBBY ABREU! great stats for the phils. But it was only when he left, when his boring @ss left, that the phillies got better. CASTILLO simply does not fit the mold of what we, jerry, && the front office (now at least, bad move OMAR) want for this team.

    • patrick says:

      the Phillies did not get better, the Mets got complacent, lets not be totally silly not as if Abreu spent his entire career flanked by Utley and Howard in their prime.

      You are making up a lot of stuff to design your arguement. Unhealthy Castillo was still able to make some stuff happen.

      The question really now is, has time off healed anything or does he need surgery for his hip.

    • Nightlife says:

      ………………..What in the hell?

  13. Darth Manuel says:

    Its to early for me to check stats but I’m pretty sure that whenever Castillo is in this lineup this team struggles. Maybe its personality maybe its the fact that he can’t hit the ball out of a little league park. Maybe he really is a bad influence on Reyes as others have reported. I don’t know.. All we know is that for what ever reason the Mets struggle with this guy in the two hole and his range in the field is pathetic.

    Omar this guy will not be missed by anyone! Start a Castillo fund at the park.. We’ll all gladly contribute a few bucks and maybe in time we can pay off his remaining salary. hehehehe

    • mikey_FF says:

      This guy will be missed by therealsince86 and Danny. That’s two people. That’s the only part you got wrong. :)

      • 0h the ag0ny says:

        loll i dont get how one cannot see that this guy hurts the team as an overall player. Its not coincedence that since hes been hurt we’ve been much better. Not to mention EASLEY keeps these guys awake on the field! Alot of leadership that this team needs!

        • mikey_FF says:

          Some people look at stats too much. Of course stats are very necessary … but they should not justify a player.

        • ghobot says:

          stats too much? It’s just ridiculous to say the reason the mets have been winning because castilo is not here when his departure coincided with reyes tatis and delgado going nuclear and perez and pelfrey pitching well….it’s just not fair and you have not done anything to prove this very bold claim. A healthy castillo can help this team.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Marry him.

    • Darth Manuel says:

      so i did a bit of number crunching,,, if we sell out every game next season and everyone contributes 2 bucks we could pay his yearly salary..

  14. 0h the ag0ny says:

    AREY! EASLEY! castilllooooo…..not so much.

  15. Metsfan309 says:

    Not sure if anyone posted this but A-Reyes and the young platoon in left have actually helped in more ways than one. They’ve helped to mature Jose Reyes because he’s helping his buddy A-Reyes. Beltran is helping get Murphy and Evans in the right spots so they can do better in the field.

  16. amazinz says:

    Figuring out 2B is NOT a big deal. Starting pitching, better clutch hitting, and great team chemistry (credit General Manuel and sparks like Tatis) is winning us ballgames.

    Who’s best at 2B? Which platoon is best? Which stats matter the most? No clear-cut answer.

    I personally like A-Rey’s defense. Offensively (i.e. by the stats) he ain’t great, but still seems to be in the middle of rallies. We should stick with him, unless we move Daniel to 2B.

    Easley’s value as a bench/utility player is unquestionable.

    But maybe Castillo comes back with something to prove. His minor league numbers don’t show that, but who knows?

    Bottom line: this is hardly our biggest problem.

  17. Nate W. says:

    someone who attended the game in Bowie had this to say…

    “Luis Castillo started at 2B and batted 2nd. He grounded back to the pitcher in his first AB and walked in his second. He was then removed from the game and went into the clubhouse. Between innings, I asked one of the players if Castillo was hurt (a natural assumption) and was told that he was called up. I don’t know if that means NO for tomorrow (Binghamton has the day off) or the Mets. Only one ball went to him–a flair to his right which he missed after barely jumping.”

    He was called up… which seems in line with the idea that his rehab is over and he is rejoining the Mets.

  18. HoJoWright says:

    until Castillo proves himself healthy enough to play winning ball - I would much rather see A. Reyes start at 2nd and have Easley bat coming off the bench. I like easley as a better pinch hitter so I think it makes more sense to start a. reyes.

  19. Simpsonsfan421 says:

    Why can’t we just release Castillo and admit that he was a failed investment already?

  20. NY Cuban says:

    All I know is I don’t want to see Castillo back with this team this year. What can he contribute? His defense is spotty, he can’t hit the ball into the OF, he cannot pinch-run, and for whatever reason, the team seems to have better chemistry without him

  21. ATrain says:

    Has anyone heard if the Mets put Castillo on waivers? That would be the ideal situation- if he clears waivers, then they can trade him- or better, someone can claim him…

    • therealsince86 says:

      Can’t be on waivers while on the DL. Will they put him on waivers when he returns? Sure, but so are a lot of players.

  22. iamatwork says:

    dfa! dfa!

  23. Danny says:

    Damion Easley over the last month: 79 PA, .205/.266/.288/.554
    Argenis Reyes over the last month: 62 PA, .268/.317/.321/.638

    And you guys want to DFA Castillo?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Stop using stats Danny. Anyone with eyes can tell you that they produce much more than an injured Castillo did. They just can’t prove it.

      • mikey_FF says:

        You two should form a tag team for the WWE. Danny Statline and The Real Luis Supporter. You can high five each other every time Castillo gets an infield hit.

        • mikey_FF says:

          ridethesnake posted this “stat” at the top.

          Since June 5:
          7-15 when Castillo plays
          31-13 when he doesn’t play

          In 2007:
          21-24 with Castillo playing
          67-50 when he didn’t

          You guys don’t like that stat though, as you find ways to turn a blind eye toward that.

        • Ed in Westchester says:

          Because that stat is not something that Castillo can control. It is the height of absurdity to use a team’s record to justify not playing a player.

          Was it because Castillo left that Perez and Pelfrey suddenly started to pitch well?
          And was it because he left that Delgado found the fountain of youth?

          Meanwhile, Easley just grounded into his 3rd double play in two games.

          I’m sorry, that was a stat. But I’m sure you saw the DP with your own eyes.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Go back to sleep in westchester, thanks. :)

        • Ed in Westchester says:

          yawn

    • bkfitz says:

      Here’s a fact you don’t see on a stat line.

      Luis Castillo can only play 3-4 days a week. Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes can play a full week if needed to. You can’t have your starting 2B play only half the games each week.

  24. BlueCapsOnly says:

    Castillo is a lazy player, he doesn’t charge any ground balls and lolly pops every throw to first making ground balls to 2nd close plays, which is ridiculous. Easly might not have the range side to side, but at least he shows effort and has a much better arm.

    • Ed in Westchester says:

      Yeah, he’s lazy. Meanwhile, everyone rails against his infield hits, which are only possibly because he hustles out of the box.

      I’ve seen Easley make some errors at second as well, in key spots and non-key spots.

      But it is kick Luis time, so everyone forgets that.

      Though if the team starts to struggle again, and Easley and A Reyes are hitting 200, the tide will turn.

  25. Ed in Westchester says:

    I wonder how many of the people wanting to cut Castillo wanted to do the same to Delgado a few months ago?

    The lesson is don’t give up on an injured guy too soon.

  26. uppertank says:

    .077…not bad for castillo

  27. Wright88 says:

    How can anyone support bringing up Castillo….the dude is not hitting at all in the minors! And lets not forget he was rehabbing in A ball as well as AA. Heck Reese Havens and Mike Carp have been outperforming him. There are a whole bunch of stats one can use to justify keeping him, but the most important thing is the W/L with and w/o him. Yes…there have been a lot of changes duh. But I believe Luis Castillo has the lowest RZR of any 2b in the majors and he hit into a lot of DP’s. Why try to fix something thats not broken? He’s never going to be fully healthy, The best Castillo will give us is a high OBP at the bottom of the order…is that worth messing with the chemistry? Castillo is a defensive whiz, contact hitter, and speedster who has lost his speed and has become a liability in the field. Great…a singles hitter just what we need.

  28. Nate W. says:

    this sucks, none of my comments will post…

    Then I get a duplicate message error even though it didnt post.

    Brilliant!!!