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Ryan Church and Trot Nixon will continue their rehab assignment with Triple-A New Orleans, so to avoid Tropical Storm Fay in Port St. Lucie.
Meanwhile, according to Adam Rubin, in the
Daily News, “Luis Castillo’s 20-day minor-league rehab clock is set to run out midweek, meaning the Mets may be forced to activate the second baseman on Thursday unless a legitimate injury issue remains.”
Castillo is batting .077 in 11 games during his rehab assignment.
…the Mets are a better team with Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes playing second base, then they were in the start of the season with Castillo, which is not to say he is the reason they win and lose…it’s just, things are going well as is, and i’d hate to see them mess with a good thing…
…Jerry Manuel seemingly rewards people who perform, so it’s hard to imagine how this scenario will play out, though it will be an interesting test to see what the organization values: putting its best team on the field, or justifying a poor contract…







…the Mets are a better team with Damion Easley and Argenis Reyes playing second base, then they were in the start of the season with Castillo.
Easley: 260 AB, .265/.314/.354/.668
A Reyes: 75 AB, .280/.316/.320/.636
Castillo: 245 AB, .261/.365/.331/.696
Not really. It’s the other 7 position players that have picked up their games.
Its not only numbers that determine whether a team is better, coincidence or not, the Mets have been much better since Castillo has been out
Coincidence. The other guys are playing better. It’s not the second baseman that are lifting this team.
Enough with the stats. Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does. That doesn’t show up in a stat line.
Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.
Instead of logic and reason, use your bias.
It works better.
No … use your eyes and watch whats happening on the field. You’re using stats to make a case for YOUR bias.
You think I don’t watch the games?
I’m making logical arguments instead of, “I’m smart and I see things that other people don’t”.
I sort of understand what’s happening when I watch baseball. And we are overrating Easley and A Reyes’ contribution to this team.
Luis Castillo is a black hole to this team. He hurts the team as a two hitter … he hurts the team as an 8 hitter. Just the way the lineup is set up … he’s a bad fit.
They are better without him. Period.
I didn’t say you don’t watch the games. I said stop making a big deal about stupid stat lines to justify why you like him so much. There is more to a baseball player than numbers.
…and it has nothing to do with being “smart”. It’s pretty simple to watch with your eyes and not going all “technical” with stats.
He hurts the team with his .360+ OBP?
Exactly the response I would expect from you. Another stat.
Exactly what I expected from you. An unsubstantiated and weak opinion.
Or the fact, I know I am using stats bad me, that A. Reyes strikes out twice as much as Castillo. That’s great for a 2 hitter. But then you would say, oh but he hits it out of the infield, I guess that explains why A. Reyes’ SLG is 45 points lower. How in the heck do you even have a SLG percentage 45 points lower than Castillo and not bunt EVERY time?
Fact still remains that your eyes are obviously lying.
Right, because I don’t judge stats to evaluate what I see. Since you do that … you’re the smarter one … and your opinion is substantiated and strong.
He’s a bad fit for the team … and my weak and unsubstantiated opinion is shared by a lot of people. I guess a lot of us are “stupid”.
Oh look who jumped in to the conversation … the luiscastillofan club … i mean therealsince86.
What a shocker.
MikeyFF explain to us what you see. Do you see a guy that’s faster? A guy that gets on base more? A guy with more energy? How do you compare him with other teams 2B? Just the ones that you see? If you don’t see Mark Ellis how do you judge him?
Baseball is stats, I agree sometimes you can make them say what you want but when every number tells the same thing you have to think it’s your eyes lying and not the numbers.
MikeyFF did you read my other post. I said the best thing for this team is a healthy Luis Castillo. Right now we don’t know if we have that or not. If we do not then I am fine with Easley being there. I just want no part of Reyes. The guy just can’t hit. He has 75 AB’s and it took a 3/4 game to get his OBP above .300.
I see a guy who is a bad fit for the Mets constructed lineup … plain and simple.
You love him as your 2 hitter though … so lets not argue for 3 hours over it.
Not stupid at all. Biased.
The winning makes any weaknesses more palatable. That’s all.
…and why are you making this about A. Reyes? Easley is the guy getting the bulk of the playing time.
Danny, I’m not biased. I’ve been saying the same thing about him when they were losing.
I dunno about you guys but .077 in the minors is stellar hitting I’ll tell you what. Yep…
You’re entitled to your opinion, of course. I just disagree.
The important thing is that Castillo shouldn’t come back unless he is actually healthy, like therealsicne86 mentioned further down in this thread.
He’s not helping anyone by playing hurt. And his rehab stint has not been going so well.
I do not want Castillo to be the 2 hitter right now. I think that should go to Murphy or Evans for now. I just don’t want to see Reyes there. And why am I making this about Reyes? Because Easley is old and if you notice is getting less and less PT at 2B. He won’t hold up the entire season.
I know you don’t like stats but here’s one for you. Since August 7th A Reyes has started 7/11 games we have played. Now if my great stat mind serves me correctly it would seem that Reyes is getting the bulk of the playing time.
I agree with that. I don’t think he’s going to be 100% healthy for the remainder of his contract though, unfortunately.
I don’t think he has to be 100%. Look at the numbers he put up last season while needing surgery. I know the were just stats but the guy hit .300 with a .360 OBP and put up good 2B numbers. All while playing above average in the field.
haha … the past week’s stats of who played more just serve your argument better. Lets not look at the number of AB’s since Castillo went down.
OK well you don’t want Castillo hitting 2 anymore … yet you thought it was horrible for him to hit 8th as you’ve said many times.
Like I said … he’s a bad fit. They are better off without him.
Never thought it was horrible for Castillo to hit 8th. I just did not think that the offense could stand one of their power hitters hitting 2nd. Remeber at the time, Tatis did not really exist, Delgado was terrible, Beltran was struggling. We could not score runs so having a guy with a high OBP in the 2nd spot was necessary. Now with Murphy and Tatis doing well and Delgado doing much better the lineup can stand a change.
Reyes, Murphy/Evans, Wright, Delgado, Beltran, Tatis, Schnieder/Castro, Easley/Castillo is not a bad lineup at all.
And what’s the point of looking at the numbers since Castillo went down? Would it not be better to look at why he has played so much recently? Do you think it’s because he got hot? He was 1/15 before he actually did get hot the last 4 games.
My point is that because Easley is old, Reyes will get more starts than he will for the next month. So it does matter.
Well, that made sense. I agree with you. The fact that you put a / in between Easley and Castillo says a lot.
Easley is old. Castillo is old. Maybe younger than Easley age wise but his body is a different story.
I’ll take whatever platoon of Easley/Reyes over Castillo … 10 times out of 10.
Well then you are just wrong and I need to move on. If you can’t use anything but your eyes to back it up then I am wasting my time. This team would be much better with last year’s Castillo starting and Easley able to give anyone on the infield and break and A. Reyes given the Gotay treatment.
You’re right, I’m wrong. Thanks for setting me straight oh great one. :)
>>Enough with the stats.<>Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.<>That doesn’t show up in a stat line.<>Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.<<
But if I watched a big enough sample of games, one would expect the stuff I see to show up in the stats, no?
“Enough with the stats.”
Yeah, man. Stop using stats to compare players. That’s just crazy.
“Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.”
Um, that kind of sounds like a stat.
“That doesn’t show up in a stat line.”
Last I checked, total RBI and number of sac flies were in fact stats. But, yes, if your point is that the number of runs driven in specifically by ground-outs doesn’t show up in the stat line, well-played!!
“Instead of looking at stats … use your eyes. They work better.”
But if I watched a big enough sample of games, one would expect the stuff I see to show up in the stats, no?
Stats can be misleading.
““Easley drives more runs in just by making outs than Castillo does.”
Um, that kind of sounds like a stat.”
Oh, and at the top of the thread, where he posted stats … he kind of left RBI’s off. So what’s your point?
Eyes can mislead as much if not more than stats.
Stats are not biased. Eyes can be.
Whether you are concious of it or not, you will see things differently if you are predisposed to feel one way. Some are capable of being completely neutral, but not most.
If you start off thinking Easley/Reyes are better, you will tend to remember the good things you see, and brush off or forget the bad. It’s human nature.
There are so many small things in baseball that can affect winning/losing. There is no way that the absence of castillo is solely responsible for the Mets current state of play.
No one was hitting on this team besides church when castillo was playing. Plus, castillo was one of the few that were good with RISP. Pelfrey was bad, Perez was still the old Ollie, and Delgado was a black hole in the line up.
I don’t think Castillo leaving suddenly made Delgado remember how to hit. I don’t think Castillo is responsible for Murphy tearing it up, or Perez and Pelfrey figuring out how to pitch.
IMO, it’s a wash. Having Castillo(healthy) makes the bench much better though. Easley/Reyes are NOT responsible for our good play, as much as Castillo WAS responible for our bad play.
I know exactly what you’re saying and there is truth to that. But it goes both ways. People who like Castillo are biased on the other side … some of those people use stats to justify that player.
Why does anyone have to try so hard to justify Luis Castillo? That’s my point. He’s not good enough to put so much energy into defending.
Underdog mentality Mikey. Castillo has been ripped on here from day 1 by a lot of people who never back up their statements.
Come on. He’s not an underdog. He’s an aging player. He’s got a ring … he’s been a winning player. He’s just not anymore.
If you were rooting for an underdog you would argue for A. Reyes.
Saying Castillo is an underdog is a cop out.
I don’t if numbers alone does an adequate job of telling the story. Castillo really heated up toward the end of his run before the injury if memory serves. But, there are a lot of factors that enter into the equation:
1. His defense/range is poor
2. As a table setter, he’s not good anymore. Will Jerry hit him 7th or 8th?
3. He has zero pop in his bat, which Easley does and it comes in handy in a big spot.
I could go on, but I have to go.
Easley’s defensive range is even worse than Castillo’s.
which is what makes easley such a great candidate for our first bat off the bench.
He said the Mets are a better team with A-Rey and Easley, he didn’t say that their stats were better.
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