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The Mets (74–60) defeated the Phillies (73–60) tonight by the score of 6 to 3 in Citizen’s Bank Park.
For a recap, boxscore, stats, etc., go to SNY.tv.
“Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.”
The resilient Mets once again showed again they are a far different team than they were a year ago. What a tremendous effort for this team to fight back and overcome a brutal loss and a early deficit.
Although he did not have his best stuff early in the game, Johan Santana managed to settle down and pitch brilliantly through six innings tonight while throwing 106 pitches. The Phillies scored all three runs off Santana via the long ball in the first two innings. Santana deserved better tonight. It’s a shame an opposite field pop up is a homerun, but that’s what you get when you play at Citizens Bank Park.
It became obvious as the innings progressed the Phillies had a plan to work the count to get Santana out of the game as soon as possible – it work for the most part. The Mets bullpen was able to rebound off a tough night the day before. As the combination of Brian Stokes, Pedro Feliciano, Joe Smith and Luis Ayala combined for three scoreless innings.
Speaking of Stokes, he continues to impress out of the bullpen. Perhaps he can step up and be the go-to reliever the Mets desperately need.
But the story of the night was Carlos Delgado.
Delgado, who was 3-4 with 2 HR and 3 RBI, is doing everything he can to put this team on his back. As Keith Hernandez noted during the SNY’s broadcast, it’s time to include Delgado in MVP talk. Wouldn’t that have a lot of people eating crow, if they’re not already.
It looked as if no one would help Delgado carry the load tonight, but with two outs in the eighth Daniel Murphy busted out of his 0-for-16 slump with a clutch RBI double off Brade Lidge to put the Mets ahead for good.
Murphy was followed by Brian Schneider, who blooped a single that scored both Murphy and Ryan Church.
The best part, it was an easy 1-2-3 for Ayala in the ninth.
Excellent win tonight, men. Way to bounce back.
The Mets will continue their road trip on Friday as they begin a three-game series versus the Marlins, with Oliver Perez (9-7, 4.00 ERA) taking on Chris Volstad (4-3, 3.42 ERA).
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psst. We came back to win this one – the standings are actually Mets 74-60, phillies 73-60
it’s always darkest before the dawn. Lets Go Mets!
I like better still:
“The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change and the REALIST adjusts his sails.”
stay positive, mets media . You’ll wind up bringing up last year too much on losses and turn this team attitude sour, though without Wilma Rudolph in the capt’s seat it is more upbeat.
Brad Lidge called a few minutes ago. He wanted to know if anyone had seen his slider. I told him to he may want to check the right field corner.
Brad Lidge is probably the best reliever in the NL right now. I don’t think he’ll get too down about tonight.
Except for when it almost ruined his career in Houston.
Yep. That Pujols HR hasn’t landed yet.
2nd time you said that joke, but it still works!
LETS GO METS
Thanks. I thought it was lost in the other thread, so I figured I’d repeat it in case anyone missed it :)
Hey, I missed it last time, so thanks for the re-post!
I saw it both times, but it was a good one so I wasn’t gonna call you out!
Let’s Go Mets!!!!!!
Wooo hooooo!
delgado is this team MVP and if he has a good september and the mets win the divsion, he is the NL MVP. keep it up carlos!!
It’s not the Manager, or the better bullpen. It’s not Santana or the rookies.
Flat out, it’s Delgado.
100% correct. True feared cleanup hitter. This team hasn’t had that since 2006.
Actually Ceetar, your pregame prognosis worked again—
“Ugh…late inning scoring”
You da man!!
Please use the offday to come up with another one Friday!!
I’ll work on it.
Ceetar, it’s high time you got over the fact that Willie Randolph was fired because he could not motivate his players anymore to perform to the level they were capable of. Reyes and Delgado were rumored to dislike him and they both started playing to their abilities right when he was fired for that exact reason.
Can we officially end the talk about David Wright as MVP at this point? One GWH a season doesn’t an MVP make.
I didn’t realize they voted for MVP based on game-winning hits. Not that i think wright should be mvp, but you make no sense.
I don’t think eitner one of them deserve it just yet, but yes, I DO think the MVP should be decided on the basis of GWH – among other stats.
To me, a guy who gets, say, a dozen GWH a season, but bats .265, 30, 85 is worth more than the quiet hitter with the more impressive stats that almost NEVER gets a GWH. I mean, what does valuable mean to you?
For the record, how many times has Delgado saved Wright’s throw at first?
mmmm this crow tastes delicious
I love how people complain about that stadium. 90% of the HRs hit there are legit shots. The short distances help both teams (see: Delgado’s second HR).
Its not that the walls are any shorter (they are, slightly), but its the jet streams out in the alleys which pushes what would be harmless fly-balls over the fence
I just have to say it:
CARLOS DELGADO !!
Great win. Nice effort Johan, and the BP. What a difference 24 hours makes.
Wow!!! You can say that again.
Mike Carp could’ve done all this.
Excuse me? I mean, I was one of the people that was calling for Delgado’s head earlier in the season, but I won’t say he wasn’t anymore capable than Carp would be. That’s just asinine.
Btw, Carp has “Career DH” written all over him.
im pretty sure he was being sarcastic
My friend, may the good lord bless you with a sense of humor.
I am pretty sure Bart meant it as a joke….
If he did mean it to be sarcastic, then I apologize. My sarcasm detection sucks much of the time.
Oh who cares, Mets own Phils. It’s a fact of life.
Beginning from his 9-rbi game, Delgado .310/.399/.648 in his last 56 games.
one of the top players in baseball during that stretch.
58 rbis in 56 games.
delgado leads the NL or is it the majors in Homeruns and Rbis in the seconf half of the season so far. the guy is a freakin’ monster right now.
He’s leading the NL Post All-Star in HR & RBI. 1 homer behind Quentin for the entire MLB.
And yes, he is a freakin’ monster right now!
The Mets must have gained A LOT of heart from last night.
Great game!!!Delgado is a stud!!! Nice to be on the other side of a BP meltdown!!!
All we need is to bring up Ricardo Rincon and we are a shoe in for the World Series.
Games like this and even last night might end up being big for the Mets mentally going down the stretch in September. Unlike last year when they put it on cruise control way too early.
We may have won, but the Phils showed guts and heart. The Mets were very gutless in their win, it was hard to watch
I detect sarcasm.
Oh a sarcasm detector, thats a real useful device.
I Love Sarcasm. <3
Do you even listen to yourself when you’re talking?
I drift in and out
Amazing, a Simpsons AND Family Guy comeback quote in the same thread!!
Oh man, how I love the “phillies have more heart” comments.
10-5 against the ballsy-gamer-HUGE HEART- Phillies.
Last night was a tough-tough night to be a Met fan
But b/t this victory and the yankee loss tonight is sweet.
b/t/w looking at schedule and record tonights loss to the
Red Sox pretty much signals the end of ‘08 for them.
How sweet will it be to have post season ball at Shea
while yankee stadium only wais the wrecking ball?!
Yankee Stadium could be demolished while the Mets are still playing ;-)
Oh man, would that be SWEET!!
As much as I dislike the Yankees, living for several years in Boston has taught me that the Red Sox are a very horrible team to want to win.
Let’s go Twins and Rays!
Perhaps this will make you happy:
Coach:
[Spoken]
See boys, that’s what I’m talking about.Baseball is only one half skill, the
other half is something else…..something bigger!
{sang
You’ve gotta have….Heart!All you really need is heart!
When
the odds are sayin’ you’ll never win, that’s when the grin should start!
You’ve gotta have hope!Musn’t sit around and mope. Nuthin’ half as bad as
it may appear, wait’ll next year and hope.When your luck is battin’ zero,
get your chin up off the floor. Mister, you can be a hero.You can open any
door.There’s nothin’ to it, but to do it.You’ve gotta have heart!Miles
and miles and miles of heart!Oh, it’s fine to be a genius of corse!But
keep that ol’ horse before the cart!First you’ve got to have heart!
Smokey:
A great pitcher, we haven’t got!
Rocky:
A great slugger, we haven’t got!
Sohovic:
A great pitcher, we haven’t got!
All:
What’ve we got?We’ve got heart! All you really need is heart! When the odds
are sayin’, You’ll never win, that’s when the grin should start!We’ve got
hope!We don’t sit around and mope!Not a solitary sob do we heave, mister
’cause we’ve got hope.
Rocky:
We’re so happy, that we’re hummin’.
All:
Hmm, Hmm, Hmm
Coach:
That’s the heart-y thing to do.
Smokey:
‘Cause we know our ship will come in!
All:
Hmm, hmm, hmm
Sohovic:
So it’s ten years over due!
All:
Hoo, hoo, hoo.We’ve got heart!Miles and miles and miles of heart! Oh it’s
fine to be a genius of coarse, but keep that old horse before the cart!
Smokey:
So what the heck’s the use of cryin’?
Coach:
Why should we curse?
Sohovic:
We’ve got to get better……
Rocky:
….’cause we can’t get worse!
All:
And to add to it; we’ve got heart!We’ve got heart!We’ve got Heart!
Damn Yankees! my folks made me watch that scene over, and over…
btw, i got use a simpsons and a family guy joke in this little thread
Which one was which, though?
The sarcasm detector was said by comic book guy and the drift in and out was Peter
I caught that lol
I wonder what Jimmy Rollins has to say now? Maybe the Mets should never celebrate when they score or take a lead. Maybe they should act more like Victorino…..oh wait.
or ryan howard and his pre-school skip across homeplate.
The sooner we realize that EVERY major league hitter celebrates after homeruns the better.
(I only remember Mike Piazza truly celebrating once, and that was the 3-run shot he hit off the braves to cap a HUGE comeback, 8-2 down, the piazza shot made it 10-8, but I digress. Let’s go Mets. Tuesday never happened!)
That was an amazing game.
WHERE IS chokeartistmets???
Talked all that trash, now where are you???
Who’s the loser now??? Who’s the choker now???
Did you really expect those guys to be around? Like their own shortstop said “Phillies fans are frontrunners”
The majority of baseball fans are front runners, I’d imagine it’s 10-20% that are truly die hards.
sad but likely true.
and even of those 10-20%, maybe turn their attention to other things, even if only a little bit, when the team struggles and sucks.
I only do that with the Knicks lol
That’s funny, when I first saw Ceetar’s comment, I thought that I only do that with the Nets!
I would agree with most teams. And I know there are new Cub fans with their strong season this year. However, most Cub fans aren’t fair-weathered. They have been rooting for the Cubs their whole lives regardless of how much they lose.
Now if they win the series this year you may see a bunch of new fans.
fillet the fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cubbies lets dominate this weekend please, unlike the pathetic team in LA
What happened to “Squish the Fish?” That sounds a lot better!
You know, there is a rising chance that Delgado could be the MVP. What if he continues hitting like this the rest of the year? Would he not at least have to be considered?
Certainly. If he has a Sept.similar to his last 2 months
and we end up winnig the east.
The 3 guys doing the Post game think so. Robbins said, right now, he is the MVP – right now meaning what he’s accomplished so far through tonight. Have to see what the last month brings, if they make the post season, etc.
Yes. In fact, Peter Gammons chose him as his dark horse the other day.
who has had the lowest avg. for MVP? don’t you think the 260 avg would hurt him?
Yes, it would. But still, if he finishes the season hot and carries the Mets to the title, that’ll be the most freshest thing in the voters minds.
If he continues he is going to be first or second in RBIs. That may pop him up into the lead or close to it.
What is funny is David Wright’s 100th RBI. It was on a ground ball out. He is leading the league (or was) in sac hits and I would be willing to bet he has 20 more RBIs on ground ball outs. His lack of dramatic or key hits has been glaring this year. Carlos’ RBIs have been key to many a victory this year.
I love Wright, but he was just awful in Tuesday night’s 13-inning loss. Totally clueless at the plate and fell on his butt in the field.
so the guy still gets rbi’s, but you’re mad that they aren’t fancy and exciting? i guess so…maybe he shouldn’t get those rbis unless he does it with a double to the gap or a shot into the corner with bases loaded, 2 outs, and a full count.
Manuel always gives me the impression he is smoking something when he does these post game interviews. It is like I half expect him to whip out a doobie.
Ha! And the poster the other night who said his laugh was like Dr. Hibbert on the Simpsons helped to complete the Jerry picture too.
just tuned into espn and was greeted with lasts nights game…man i really hate espn sometimes
After last night’s heartbreaker, this team continues to show it’s resilliancy. I am really pleased with the effort tonight, and the fact this team just will not give up. This has been a roller coaster, and I have to admit my heart cannot take it anymore.
LOL – Harold Robbins said ‘Met Fans, strap in. It’s going to be a roller coaster ride from here on out. This is fun!’
Fun?? Fun?? I’m with you, my heart can’t take it either. I could use a little less speeding up and down the roller coaster hills.
HAHAHAHAHA !!
do you mean REYNOLDS! not harold robbins
Yes, sorry. I’m constantly doing that with this guy’s name….
I had the same feeling the night before when Keith kept gushing about what a “great, exciting game” it was. It was torture for Mets fans. This wasn’t a see-saw cat-n-mouse affair. The Mets were having a prolonged, slo-mo meltdown and Keith is giddy. I met both Keith and Ron recently and the gut impression I got was that Ron was a cool, regular guy, while Keith was a little full of himself.
Why is it a “shame that an opposite field pop up is a homerun” when Ryan Howard hits it, but totally legit and cool when Delgado hits it in the exact same spot?
Oh it’s a crime either way. Serves them right when it happens to them for designing that terrible park that way.
Both homeruns were at least 340 feet. Both would’ve been out at Shea.
The issue isn’t the distance, but the fact that the ball travels farther, like in Colorado, but instead of the thin air, the jet streams are to blame. CBP was designed with gaps in the home plate rotunda, and as a result, wind gusts onto the field, blowing from home either alley.
Who said that? I mean I hate those cheap homeruns the Phillies hit. If the Mets played there they’d have about 7 guys who would hit atleast 20 HRs a year. But if the Mets do it to, it’s fair game.
That’s in Cerrone’s postgame comments on this blog that this thread is attached to.
Howard and Delgado’s homeruns were almost in the same location. No mention though of how that was a “cheap homerun.”
Because the Phillies play half their games there — the rest of us only benefit occasionally.
Yet their overall team average and homeruns is higher away then it is at home.
The whole ballpark “bandbox” argument is nothing more then an excuse or scapegoat for when they win and you guys lose/something goes wrong.
You all are so defensive about that stadium. Don’t you wish they’d just built you a proper one?
There’s nothing wrong with the stadium. The dimensions are very similar to Shea give or take 5-10 feet in the sections.
Even if there is something wrong with the stadium (and I agree that there isn’t), every opposing team the Phils play at home plays in the exact same stadium.
The Phils have NO advantage playing there.
BTW, did Jimmy Rollins say this?
No, that is Nichols comment on this blog.
I made the mistake, I thought it was Cerrone, but it was Nichols.
I know I was being sarcastic. I no longer can stand Jimmy Rollins. We should all go to Shea with bibs on every time he’s at the plate.
As a Phillies fan, I sincerely have never understood the complete and total hatred of Jimmy Rollins by the Mets and their fans.
He answered a spoonfed loaded question last March that in no way singled out or called out the Mets (notice how the Braves, Marlins, and Nationals took no offense). The question asked if the Phillies were the team to beat, and he said “I think we are the team to be, you know, finally.” And if you listen to how he said, he said it in a very humble way.
But I guess rivalries need an enemy and him being the outspoken guy in the Phils clubhouse, it makes him the easy target.
You’re wrong. Chipper Jones was offended by it too. I remember him saying that he felt Rollins disrespected the entire league.
the Braves, Marlins, and Nationals took no offense because they weren’t coming off a 97 win season and an NLCS Game 7 loss.
By the way, how’s that 100 wins prediction looking?
Explain to me how he disrespected the entire league? What in the world did he say or do that is so wrong?
Jimmy Rollins just isn’t a likable guy. Why do your announcers not like Jose? Now the guy who says they should have planted one on their neck brown nosed him in the first inning about the Mets having a great percentage of 1st inning runs when he gets on (16 out of last 20 games).
Jimmy’s smile. Look at what he said about Phillies fans. He said he gets extra pumped up because of the Mets? Maybe that’s just the media twisting his words. Jimmy’s smile is hideous though. I’m not even talking about his Strahan teeth. I remember seeing him when he played in Scranton. He’s a cocky player. A good one, but an annoyance.
I love the rivalry though. The Phillies got some great players just like the Mets. They really burnt themselves not re-signing Aaron Roward who I thought could have gotten even more than what the Giants gave him. They might wind up losing Burrell too. They were smart to sign Lidge at the right time though.
Not saying he did anything wrong, just telling you what chipper said. Go to google and type this in:
chipper jones answers jimmy rollins
click on the first result and read for yourself
since you’re from Philly, I’ll give you an analogy you’ll likely understand: Say in 2005, after the Eagles had been to 4 straight NFC Championships and had won the NFC East 5 years in a row, Eli Manning came out and said the Giants were the team to beat in the NFC East….you don’t think you would have been a little annoyed at that? The fact that he then backed it up on the field wouldn’t have annoyed you even more? Think about it…
gomets, It may have been annoying, but I wouldn’t have considered him public enemy #1 or launched a total vendetta against him. I have many friends in North Jersey along with my gf, so I’m up there often and hear it nonstop while I’m up there.
NYJ, I can’t answer for why Larry Anderson in particular doesn’t like Jose Reyes. I like Reyes. I think he’s dangerous and will only get more dangerous as he matures with age. He’s very much like Rollins in many ways though, you’d have to admit: attitude, style of play, cockiness and all.
I like a lot of your players to be honest, with the exception of a few (which can go both ways for you guys for sure).
And I love the rivalry, too. I read this blog very often to get the opposing viewpoints (and post very rarely on it).
I don’t know, from our standpoint, I just don’t see how something like that was blown so far out of proportion to such ridiculous levels. And in terms of what he said on BDSP, I didn’t disagree with what he said, minus the term “front runners”, which Rollins openly admitted wasn’t the word he meant. His justification was positive energy, not booing before something happens. You’d be surprised, a great number of Phillies fans didn’t get that upset, but the very loud and vocal miniority did.
MikePhan, you sound like a decent, respectable human being….even though I can’t stand your team. That being said, I think Rollins needs to stop talking so much and just shut up and play. The Mets came back tonight because they’re using Rollins’ words against him….clearly they did tonight. And he won’t figure it out either.
Because you’re on the Mets blog lol Why did ESPN rave on about Howard’s dinger and getting Johan out after six innings but not properly credit us for the win. You know as well as I that the Phillies have gotten lucky while playing the Mets. This has to be the first time in a long time that I can remember that the Phillies actually had a lead for a few innings on the Mets. They still didn’t take the first lead though. The Mets got their number in the beginning. The Phillies got it at the end. We beat that tonight though. They’re 10-5 against them this year. Weren’t the Mets like 3-15 last year? That’s the difference. The Phillies are a good team though. Both of these teams can be better than their records. The Phillies are 8 of their last 10. The Mets are 12 of their last 16.
NYJ, I agree with you, don’t get me wrong. I love having an open and honest debate with people who are general fans of the game and can have a meaningful discussion like the one we’re having right now.
It just gets me, for instance last night, when someone like Pedro Martinez is being interviewed and the reason he lost is the “bandbox” (he actually used the words), yet his team spotting him a 7 run lead is totally legit.
Delgado continues to carry this team on its back. I really believe he has a legitimate shot at the NL MVP.
It would be the first MVP in the teams history.
Can you believe this team has never thrown a no-hitter and has never had an MVP?
And has never had a player with 4-consecutive 100rbi se..
nevermind.
What percentage of those 100 RBI’s have come in the first inning?
Doesn’t really matter.
Many of Wright’s RBIs are cheap. He leads the league in Sac flies and I would bet 20 or more of the others are on ground ball outs. He gets RBIs because Jose is on base. Its that simple. He doesn’t have that many key hits this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike Wright but Jose and Delgado are more what an MVP looks like, at least this year.
Wright is a lot more streaky than he seems to be portrayed by the media. Beltran gets a lot of slack for being so streaky, Wright is almost as up and down for weeks at a time. Wright has more ups and downs, Beltran’s are longer streaks.
I’ll be the first to admit that Wright’s stats this year aren’t indicative of his level of play, but to call his rbis “cheap” b/c he hits sac flies and b/c he always has Reyes on base is ridiculous.
The definition of an rbi is driving a run home — with the exception of the long ball, to do that you need to have runners on base.
Frankly, I’ll take the guy who consistently gets the run in from 3rd, whether it be by sac fly or ground out, any day of the week.
i think dwright will be setting a lot of precedents for mets players, especially since, in terms of batters, there havent been too many great ones who played their entire prime years with them, piazza gave them most but not all of his best years
Piazza also did without a true legitimate leadoff hitter. Outside of Rickey Henderson in 1999.
I’d care if there weren’t 12 teams with 1 or fewer World Championships out of 30 in MLB (that includes the Phillies, btw).
I had to work late so I only got to see the hi-lights of tonights game. I would like to personally thank everyone on this board tonight for disposing those Philly fans. Funny how they all fled the scene when the whip came down. BTW Wright88, it would seem to me that if this team was gutless, they wouldn’t have come back at all. Great win. Lets Go Mets!!
It’s very refreshing to hear Jerry admit how big of a win this was. I’m still expecting “It’s just another game. No big deal, there’s a lot more season to go. Move on and get ready for the next one.”
Well, when we admit how big a win is, it CLEARLY makes the champagne taste that much sweeter.
Don’t wake Ceetar up. Randolph would be 15 games up too, even with his guys not playing hard for him.
I want to see Carlos Delgado hit his 500th HR as a Met.
Right on MyaGirl. What I’d also like to see is you. A chic Met fan that writes on blogs. How sexy is that? Imagine if you’re hot on top of that, forget about it!
LL,
You may want to turn to Gina or Tina. Mya is the name of my newborn daughter. If you decide to go after her, I may have to come after you.
That my friends, is awkward and hilarious.
Right on Church. What I’d also like to see if you. A Ryan Church loving Met fan that writes on blog. How sexy is that?
haha
My bad…Definitely my bad. I have 2 little daughters, so I know where you’re coming from!
LOL- It’s pretty sad when someone is on MetsBlog looking for love.
come on. that was pretty funny. he made a move on you. it was like something you’d see on lucky louie lol i can see someone not knowing with the screen name. i hope he really wasnt looking for love on here lol see what the mets does to people minds? the stress causes ulcers
Alright… It was funny I admit it.
HAHAHAHAHA
For some odd reason, I get the sense that it was really Giuseppe Franco making a move on her.
By the way, which character in Saturday Night Fever was he again?
after this win, can all the apocalyptic mets fans cool it after every bad loss from now on please? or at least stop posting… its annoying
never gonna happen…
Yeah … “Write it DOWN.”
Internet tough guys and negative authoritarians won’t go away until everyone is content and satisfied in their own lives and has no need to project personal disappointments onto an abstract construct (i.e.: The Mets.)
With all the heartbreaks we have lost to the Phillies this season it’s hard to believe that we have yet to lose a series against them but that is the difference I find between the ‘07 and ‘08 Mets. We BOUNCE BACK from bad losses.
So LET’S GO METS and FRY THE FISH!!
I think Delgado certainly ought to be in the MVP discussion.
And how adorable was that smile at the end, when he was waiting for Beltran to come in from the outfield? Brothers in suffering the slings and arrows.
Props to Wright, also, who made another routine amazing play. To think we have he and Reyes back of the pitcher, making those plays for years to come.
Reyes and Wright are 25 years old. 25. Sometimes I just sit back and think about this.
Great game. Screw ESPN or anyone who doesn’t give the Mets credit. They deserved this one. They turned it on late. I’m happy with this win. Although I think they should have swept it, I’ll take it. No damage done. Now it’s time for the Phillies to get taken care of by the Cubs. It’s also time for the Mets to take care of business in Florida. They gotta take 2 of 3.
Delgado has to be considered an MVP canidate. He could finish in the top 10 balloting. Depends on how he finishes out from here. If he posts 40+ HR with 110+ RBI’s and a .260+ batting average and the Mets make the playoffs, why not? If it weren’t for him, could have they done this? What about Fernando Tatis as a comeback player of the year? Or Johan as a possibility for the Cy Young? He’ll probably end up with like 15 wins, but they are aware he’s had like six wins stolen from him.
CC gets the Cy. No doubt.
gonna be hard for voters to ignore Webb if he has 22+ wins.
No doubt? Come on, you can’t believe that.
I’d argue Tim Lincecum is the best pitcher in the majors, 15-3 on the GIANTS? Come on.
The Mets actually saved Johan from a loss tonight. Nice to have one go the other way for a change.
This whole blog, including myself , is eating crow right now. Delgado has earned another year with this team. He will be back in 2009.
I hope he goes on and wins the first NL MVP honors for the Mets!
If Utley had not gotten hurt last year, they could have considered Howard, Utley and Rollins all MVP possibilities. The way how Burrell’s hit this year, he’d even add more there. With the Mets, you’d have to think Reyes, Wright and Delgado could be that too.
28 to go. I’m thinking 18-10 will do it. Let’s hope they can.
Funny that you say that (18-10) because remember Marlon Anderson made that map of how the Mets can win the division, so correct me if I’m wrong but I think he said 92-70. At the time is seemed crazy, not so now!
Yeah. That’s part of the reason why I said that. The Phillies would have to go 19-10 to tie that which can happen. The Wild card could take more, but that depends on how the Brewers do. Marlon’s a vet though. He’s a smart guy. Maybe he’ll have a bat in September like he did last year.
18 would give them Marlon’s 92 wins…
yup. lets hope. it’d be crazy to think this stressful season could bring us so close to the win total of our great 2006 season.
Gee, Carlos had a wrist injury.
That is not a good excuse.
Utley hasn’t played well in the second half this year. He is healthy now, there is no excuse.
i will eat crow until the end of time, and happily, if delgado gets some MVP chatter/votes
$12 million option for Carlos next year or buy him out for $4 million. Considering the other options include giving Texeria an 8 year/$160 million contract or making a play for trying to overpay for a vet in the trade market, I think they almost have to bring Delgado back next year.
Agree. Delgado comes back next year. No doubt. Screw Texeira, too expensive. Let the Yankees have him!
Yeah. Texeira’s got a high price tag. It’s not like he’ll be the last guy to ever surface the market. If we’re going to throw money at anyone, why not K-Rod? We need to address the bullpen issue. Billy’s got a bad elbow. Plus, who wants him back anyway? He’s mused up games just as bad as the rest of the pen. Ask Johan.
Easley 950K ; Matt Wise 1.2 MM ; Jorge Sosa 2 MM ; El Duque 6 MM ; Oliver Perez 6.5MM ; Alou 7.5MM ; Pedro 11MM, Delgado 16MM.
Why not C.C.? Between all the guys the Mets have coming off the books, it’s over 51MM. Re-sign Easley. Take Delgado’s 12MM out (4MM is paid for by Florida) and that’s 38 left. If we went after CC, we wouldn’t re-sign Oliver who’s probably take 13MM. Say he cost 22MM. Johan’s salary goes up I believe 5.5MM, but the Mets would still have over 10MM to spend on who ever else they may consider. Probably bullpen help. If you look to trade Billy and bring in K-Rod for say 15MM a year, you can do a lot there.
No way they invest that much on CC with what we’re payin Johan. No way…that’s about 50 mil/year on 2 pitchers. That’s crazy!
If he were to get the same money as Johan, it’d be about 45-46 MM. I understand what you’re saying though. What I was meaning to say was that Oliver’s going to get like 13-14MM per year probably for 4 years. CC will probably take 8 or 9 more a year than that. I’m more confident in him.
What other concerns do the Mets have? The bullpen is one. The line-up? It probably won’t change much. The possibility remains that Fernando Martinez will be our starting LF at some point of the year. If not, we still got Daniel Murphy and Nick Evans. Not to mention Angel Pagan who’ll be in the mix too. Also Endy Chavez, Marlon Anderson and the possibility of Fernando Tatis returning. I doubt that’ll happen though because there’s no obvious opening and he’ll want to cash in.
Delgado’s option will be picked up. The only way it wouldn’t would be if Texeira was signed, but I don’t think that’ll happen. The only obvious opening is 2B. There is a good chance Luis is back next year. Damion may retire or not re-sign. We got Argenis in the mix too. Daniel Murphy will eventually be there too.
We got a great rotation. Ollie’s a FA though and Pedro’s slot is to be replaced by Niese or Parnell. I’d love to see a complete shake up of the bullpen. No more Smith, Duaner, Aaron and Pedro. Or at least some of them. They can get something back for all of them too.
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Yes. It’s crazy. But imagine that look. They probably won’t though because other teams will look to get him. It wouldn’t shock me if it were the Yankees. The Mets don’t need to lose picks though. I’m more interested in K-Rod. I do want to see them bring back Oliver Perez though. He’s very important to this team. Especially if John Maine continues to have problems. A rotation of Santana, Pelfrey, Perez, Maine and Niese could be the best for the whole first half of next decade.
I like that rotation. I also say bring back Perez. That staff would be sick! And young!!!
Santana
Pelfrey
Ollie
Maine
Niese
is a sick rotation but they might need to get some1 else cuz i dunno if maine and niese would be able to hold it togethre all year…but def resign delgado and #1 priority – KROD and 1 or 2 solid relievers
as great as the W was tonight, it prob will cost us brian fuentes, hes set to clear waivers in the next 24 hrs and since the phils are in 2nd, they can claim him and block us from getting him
hed be a great addition to the pen, and possibly a decent closer goin forward if wags is done for good
hes would cost too much in prospects..let the phills take him
He won’t get past the Dodgers.
What does this mean “set to clear waivers”? How would anyone know this?
I am watching SNY Spotlight w/ Seaver and Johan. I understand the theme of Mets aces. Aren’t we forgetting someone? Who used to wear # 16?
That whole interview just made me depresed about the state of Doc’s and the Mets’ relationship
What’s Doc’s issues?
at this point in the season fuentes would not cost alot at all, guys getting dealt this late never do, and where is #16?
unfortunately hes in a dark cold place, hopefully getting clean so one day he can live a normal, healthy life
Actually Doc is reportedly doing quite well.
Now why would the Rox trade a guy for nothing.
You’re right. Some luck the Mets got, right? Someone might get to them before they do. Could be one of the NL West clubs like the Dodgers. Have you seen there pen lately? It’s not like the Phils haven’t given up people. They traded three guys for Blanton. The Mets haven’t given up anyone. They may put a claim in for him, but make a deal for him I doubt. The Mets should look more into David Weathers, Luis Vizciano, Doug Brocail and other’s who’d cost less and are more realistic
lets be serious, none of those guys are going to help the team at all
You’d think that. It doesn’t appear that the Mets pen will help much at times either. I’m willing to see what Al Reyes, Ambiorix Burgos and even Ricardo Rincon got. Luis Vizciano’s got a rubber arm though. He didn’t do bad with the Yankees. Weathers actually has saved a lot of games in his past history. He was on both the Mets and Yankees. Who else could for the Mets? Al Reyes has. I’m thinking he can help. Let’s hope. I’ll try to be confident in our pen though. They’ve done better lately.
Knock on wood.
Right, like Scott Eyre is not helping the Phillies at all.
Who’s # 16? Pagan?
The Phillies broadcaster sounds like he’s 90 years old
I just think it’s great how we can come back after a tough loss, something that wouldn’t have happened if Mr. Yankee was still our manager.
Now you know why Joe Torre will grow on Dodgers fans even though they’re a little laid back. Now for Willie – a guy who he learned from is a guy I’m glad to have seen go. Go far away. I still think the Mets could have treated him better as a person because he is a nice guy. They didn’t need to send him home like that during the middle of a week at 3 in the morning after winning 3 out of 4. At least Jerry didn’t learn too much from him though. In the beginning, I thought of there coaching strategies more differently. As time grew on, I knew he was willing to shake up things more. He’s still not perfect, but a lot better. It’s amazing how he took so little from a guy who he was the bench coach for that long.
He sounds like a machine or an announcer in a video game.
Ryan Howard hits it deep to left and it is Addaaaaa Herreeee!!!!!
You get used to it after hearing it for a while. I heard him and the other announcer don’t get along. The one who said Reyes should get one planted on his neck. That’s why he doesn’t do the 4th, 5th and 6th innings.
I just wanted to thank Jerry for letting Feliciano start an inning, rather than allowing an inherited runner to score.
I was at both games and man was this one more enjoyable. HA!
Yup. It was. I went yesterday. Great game until the 4th. I was kind of burnt out by the 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th – but that wasn’t bad. I was grabbing my hair the whole time. To think, we could have swept not just this series but that last one in Philly too. We were up 5-2 and the bullpen meltdown. I remember last August the Mets had a 4 game set against the Phillies and got swept. Complete turnaround in this game. This will boost their confidence big time. They keep coming back after losing tough ones. We just need one more big streak and it can be all ours.
Take it easy guys. I’m going to bed. I’m kind of happy there’s no game tomorrow. I can use a break from watching these games lol It won’t be too long until it’s time to beat them Fish
I’m gonna watch the Yankees get raped tomorrow.
this is the biggest win since nlcs game 6 in 1986. matt has to host every september game at butterfield now.
How come Doc didn’t take down #16 at shea? Is he on bad terms with us? I would really love to see him come back to shea.
Crawled out from under a rock recently, didja? ;)
Lots of bad blood there, unfortunately. I’m sure they’ll reconcile some day, but I don’t think it’s going to be any time soon.
A lot of people have been talking about how great it would be to have Doc show up at one of the goodbye to Shea events that are likely to happen at the end of the year, and it would be nice if that happened, but based on what I’ve heard from both sides of that relationship, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Let’s see…each team lost the game it should have won.
Each team’s bullpen looked good in one game (1 run in 10 innings vs no runs in 3 innings).
Each team had a comeback (7 runs down vs 2 runs down).
Both teams even in the loss column.
Each team’s fans will point to their win as the one that meant something.
It’s a shame if Ryan Howard hits an opposite field HR (it’s a popup!) but if Delgado does it, he’s MVP.
It’s all in the eye of the beholder.
release the “communist” delgado!
Congrats Mutts fans you won and are now in first!! What will the topic of whining be today? hahaha
i love this site….you all are truly entertaining
hi, just a bit of knowledge….the phillies blogs all act the same as this one…
we are all annoyed as hell after a loss, but loving our team after a win…..its…a sport…that is how it works.
Delgado for President.
Brian Stokes for President
Best Mets win in … how long?
Best win since Perez beat the Cardinals in St. Louis in 06?
Since we beat the Dodgers in game 3 in 06?
hi , thanks for the knowledge, had no idea thats how it works
Topic for today: Why the Mutts farm system is overrated?
exhibit A,B,C: Milledge, Carlos Gomez, Phil Humber
remember those guys? haha what a joke they are…..please bring up Neese, he’s probably worse than Fig-Newton-eroa
only good guys to come out of the system are Kazmir and Wright and we all know where Kaz is playing, VICTOR Z BABY!!! hahaha
too soon to judge BigPelf (did he ditch that retarded mouth guard yet?) and Dan Murphy
this should light a fire haha
Let’s not forget to include Reyes in your research.
exhibit A,B,C: Milledge, Carlos Gomez, Phil Humber
=
santana, church, and schneider.
you might want to re-phrase your question to: why does the mets farm system brings back lots of good players?
Congratulations on using your second and fourth best prospects, and then some, for landing….Joe Blanton. Seriously, congratulations.
‘overrated’ by whom? The mets org, and some Mets fans? It’s the mets farm system perception of being weak (other than FMart), that prevented the Mets from making any trades at the deadline.
would that be the same Dan Murphy who had the game winning hit last night?
delgado just entered very special shea stadium territory.