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Mets OF Daniel Murphy, RHP Jason Vargas, RHP Tobi Stoner, C Josh Thole and 3B Shawn Bowman will play during this year’s Arizona Fall League, according to Baseball America.
In addition, it appears two yet-to-be-named pitchers from the Mets organization will also be included on the AFL roster.
…based on the rest of the roster, it appears that murphy will be the team’s second baseman, which is exciting…
By the way, for more on the team’s minor-league system, be sure to check out Mets Minor League Blog by Toby Hyde.
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hmmmmmm hopefully that means they are gonna somehow plan to move Castillo’s salary in the off season
How? I cannot imagine the way.
He would have 3 years and 18 million on his deal. If the Wilpon’s were willing to eat 9 million, I can maybe see a team picking him up for 3 years and 9 mil.
You really could? 3 years for a guy who can barely walk?
Not likely, but it’s not out of the question. If he can play consistently over a longer stretch to show that he is healthy and still has above average defense, I could maybe see it. Probably not though. More than likely, we’re stuck with him.
now that Dmurphy might be 2b….maybe we could trade him AND Fmart for brian roberts…you know b/c roberts is a BEAST and baltimore needs a 2b in return.
I hope you are kidding…
haha…I guess you missed the previous post. lol.
Hey, hold on. Pick on me while I am here. I would not trade Murphy and Fmart for Roberts. It’s not that Murphy is too good and it throws it over the top. It’s that we need him now and in 5 years. I would still trade Castillo and Fmart for Roberts. Sorry, come see me in about 5 years and THEN tell me how wrong I am. Until then, NEITHER of us have a clue.
Also, notice I never said that Roberts is a Beast. He is a way above average 2B but not to the point of Utley status. He is however, better than O. Hudson which so many on here have a crush on.
lol…my bad on not waiting for ya.
But I don’t think we need Roberts so bad right now that it warrants trading Fmart. We both dont know what he will turn out to but he is worth more right now than for brian roberts. Roberts isn’t chase utley or dan uggla.
For better of for worse, Fmart will not be moved unless its a top top talent. He wasn’t even offered for JOhan, so I don’t think we would use him for any pitcher. Manny has the talent for a trade but we wouldn’t due that due to his age, defense, and whatever problems he might have. Im saying it would have to be a legit offensive player.
Brian Roberts is good, but I don’t think we are a Brian roberts away from being a great team.
Considering how bad our #2 hitters have been this season, who knows. But I see your point.
I said in the other thread that’s the type of decision that Omar has to make and I can see both sides. It’s never as clear as we think it is. I would not be upset either way. I even saw rational in the Kazmir trade. Did not agree with it but still there was rational. The guy had unbelievable numbers in interleague games something like a 2.00 ERA with a 1.00 WHIP. That went well, LOL.
ugh…we have finally reached agreement in regards to Brian Roberts and now you see rational in the Kazmir trade? lol oh boy.
The only rational I see in the Kazmir trade is if Jim Duqutte was trying to get fired.
Kinda ironic how we been discussing brian roberts and Fmart and then go to Kazmir while Jim Duqutte is involved with both. lol
Now, if they wanted to trade Castillo and some other pretty good minor leaguer(maybe Carp) for Brian Roberts, I would soooooooo be all for it. I looooove Brian Roberts and I think he could be a nice 2 hitter I think.
Of course however, that would not get it done. Maybe if you signed SP depth you could use Niese. The problem is the sharp drop off after those 2. It just depends on who is in the market. Once Hudson signs then the O’s will be able to get a high demand for Roberts.
Do the Mets pick players to play in the AFL (and other off-season leagues) or do the players sign up? In other words, is this seen as an honor to be picked or a “good job” to make the choice? If Murphy, why no Evans? (ignorance here, not judgment).
I think this is purely because they are trying to develop a position for Murphy with the thought that Evans would be in leftfield perhaps, not as much Murphy needs time all around just at second.
Ok so what does this mean for Castillo’s three remaining years on his contract? There is no way any team would take his contract unless the Mets paid at least half of it. And what about Argenis Reyes?
I admit that would give us one hell of an infeild if we exercise Delgado’s option. I am a bit puzzled by this myself.
It means that Murphy will be the Mets second baseman in the Arizona Fall League, not in the majors.
i think everyone here understands that, the point is, why wouldn’t he play LF there? We have a 2B, at this point, it makes sense for him to learn the outfield better
it makes more sense to find someway to get rid of Castillo and have Murphy play 2B, his natural position
Wright, Reyes, Murphy, Delgado
That is a scary infield
Murphy’s natural position is 3B. He only played like 15 games at 2B in AA after he asked to be moved there (smart kid).
As Tim Allen would say . . . arrrgggh?
I thought his natural position was 3b?
ahh…i love that show.
Who in the world cares what we do with Argenis Ruben Gotay lite Reyes? He should not even be on an MLB team. He is terrible.
As for Castillo, I think he can still be dumped. You got 3 years 18 million left. The Astro’s offered him more than that last year. One year of injury does not make a worthless player. You put up 8 million or take on a bad contract and you can move him easily.
Castillo will be traded by the trade deadline next year with the Mets paying a good portion of his salary. I don’t know Easley’s contract sit., but I think A Reyes with Murphy as the back-up would be reasonable. With time, Reyes will become a better hitter or just another Rey Ordonez: Great fielder, but can’t hit the side of a barn if he were inside it.
Murphy backing up A. Reyes? I think it may be the other way around.
Agreed. A. Reyes can spell Murph in 8th and 9th as a defensive replacement.
Boy, we are all getting WAY ahead of ourselves. I love what I’ve seen from Murphy too, but I’ve not seen many “experts” pick him as an everyday player.
We’ve not seen enough of him anywhere to anoint him starting anything yet. As for Argenis, he has a terrible OBA, and unless he learns to get on base, I would not think you’d want to run him out there day in and day out.
LOL, Murphy backing up A Reyes and getting rid of Castillo. And some of you guys got on me about being a GM. Why do people like A. Reyes? He is flat out terrible. He can’t hit and swings at everything.
Agreed. And to answer the above posters question on the experts not projecting Murphy to be an everyday player, the same was said about Robinson Cano when he was called up. He was supposed to be just an average prospect with no great ceiling. Goes to show that some players just shine on the big stage and some don’t, so you can’t go completely by what the “experts” say. Those same experts also compared Lastings Milledge to Ted Williams. I know it’s early, but Lastings Milledge thus far looks a lot more comparable to Jay Payton in my opinion.
I’m not saying Murphy won’t prove the experts wrong, but everybody seems ready to make him the starting something next year and we’ve just not seen enough of him to do that IMO. You will notice that I put the experts in quotation marks indicating that I take what they say with a grain of salt. However, you have to at least listen to what they say.
Show me one reference to Milledge being the next Ted Williams. I recall seeing a lot of people thinking he’d be good but not a star and a few even saying he might not even be a regular. That being said, he seems to be getting it together of late, and he’s still young.
I think that the player “puts in” a request to play in the fall league, but the organization has to approve it. Ex: I don’t thinkl the Yanks allow any players to play during the fall/winter. I could be wrong about this whole thing though.
I think you’re right. Reyes wanted to play a few years ago and we turned him down. I thought I remember someone recently being turned down too…not sure.
my bad im thinking winter league.
They better get a lot of baseballs and sweatrags for the pitchers for those beautiful long drawn out Murphy at bats!
No!
I saw Murph at CBP in person for the first time and I was amazed at his size. I thought he was a little guy….
I think he looks smaller than he really is because he crouches very low at the plate, kinda like how Pujols looks like he’s 5′6 with that stance of his.
Pujols looks like a monster to me!
True, but when he’s in his batting stance, he can look a little short.
I hope Murphy will miss most of the AFL because he will have made the Mets postseason roster! If his hitting is solid and clutch down the stretch, he may have a chance.
We can dream. :smile:
If we make the playoffs…then I think you are right.
If the team makes the playoffs and muprhy isn’t on the roster, I will be a very angry fan
I really have enjoyed watching him and evans play
I love when the lineup has one of them in the 2 hole. The lineup seems much more dangerous
Id be surprised and pretty darn dissapointed if Murphy and Evans werent on the post season roster if the Mets make it. Both have provided energy to the team and have contributed in a meaningful and positive way to the teams current play.
to me, leaving both of those guys off the roster (again if the mets made the post season which im hoping to all hope they do!!!) would be a snub to both of them and show a serious lack of support and commitment.
that said, i think murphy playing in the AFL is a positive thing because im pretty sure they would put him on the post season roster, and if they dont its a way for him to continue to develop as i get the sense him and evans are shaping up to be part of the mets plans moving forward.
It would be hard to include both those guys because there are so many outfielders. You have Beltran, Church, Tatis, Evans, Murphy, and Chavez. I can’t see all of them being taken. I would think that Evans would be the odd man out.
I don’t think it’s an issue. If this team makes the post season, Murphy will be there. Evans will likely be there as well.
I agree with Chan Ho. Evans will most likely be the odd man out.
Delgado, Castillo, Reyes, Wright, Murphy, Beltran, Church, Schnider
Castro, Easley, Endy, Tatis, Anderson. Why Anderson? We need the LHPH bat. That is unless we go with 11 pitchers which some teams do but with our pen who knows.
I hope the Mets don’t trade Murphy away.
I think they really plan on keeping Castillo around…
They plan on keeping Castillo around because there really isn’t much of an alternative (Unless the Wilpons are willing to eat a lot of money).
OFF-TOPIC ALERT
i’m reading starkie’s column on the world leader’s site in regards to the nl cy young. he makes a case for lincecum, webb and sabathia. someone posted a question on there that was very interesting and stark’s response should put an end to questions about santana’s effectiveness once and for all.
here goes:
Juan: Can someone provide the CUS and Blown Saves have gone against J. Santana? Just curious
SportsNation Jayson Stark: (2:21 PM ET ) You know, I was hoping someone would bring up Santana. Not sure anyone has noticed this, but he leads the entire sport in quality starts (with 23, one more than Lincecum). He has five blown saves, as many as Lincecum, and five CUS, one fewer than Lincecum. But in overall run support, he and Lincecum are very close. Santana is at 4.87 a game (64th in the big leagues), and Lincecum is at 4.81, right behind him at 68th.
based on this, one could make a decent case for sanatana winning it but since that won’t happen unfortunately and after looking at his stats, i’m changing my vote to tim “the giant” lincecum.
umm..so Jayson stark was defending Johan? Does he know the Giants suck?
Pardon my dimness… what is CUS?
I didn’t know either and couldn’t find it searching on google. In fact, it isn’t a recognized statistic but is interesting nonetheless. It’s defined in the article itself:
CUS, Criminally Unsupported Starts — games in which he pitched at least six innings and his team scored one run or none while he was in the game
Some voters are so stuck on traditional stats that they can’t see beyond them. A case in point is when Clemens won the Cy Young in 2001 even though he had an ERA of 3.51 — much higher than many other starters in the league. Voters were enamored of his 20-3 record even though we know it was significantly a product of a very good bullpen, run support, and as we NOW know, PEDs.
It will be slow to change if ever. There’s nothing they can do about it. At least the fans know that Santana has had a Cy Young-caliber year.
Forget Easley starting at second. If we are going to have to eat a good portion of Castillo’s contract to get that bum out of NY then it would make sense to just let Easly go and have the two youngsters Murphy and Reyes play second. Easley’s contract is up after this year if I’m not mistaken and Murphy is the real deal. Kid can flat out hit a baseball.
If Murphy plays second, then I think a 38 year old Easley is a better back up option than A. Reyes. At least for 2009. Reyes has zero pop and no patience at the plate.
Yippie, another fan that can look at stats and AB’s. Argenis is Awful Reyes.
question…
why wasnt amby burgos called up to the big club? dont we need a power pitcher and possible closer?
i thought he was doing ok in his rehab games…
any ideas?
He just started rehabbing very recently, so he must not be ready to handle the workload yet. Also, I’d bet his control and fastball aren’t where they should be yet either.
He is still rehabbing from TJ surgery, though after working with Chris Correnti (Pedro’s trainer) he seems to be ahead of schedule, and he may get called up later in the month
Actually he has been pitching for about a month now, he just been pitching very infrequently and with mixed results. He will probably stay in florida working in simulated situations until they feel he is ready.
If you see him in a Cyclones game in the next couple days then I would think we would see him shortly after that.
Why don’t we hold off on anointing Dan Murphy as the heir apparent at 2nd base until he gets a bit more than 86 Plate Appearances???
yes, see my post above.
good for murphy to get time there gets reps at 2b
hopefully carp joins him there too and learns how to play the OF better, and further displays his hitting ability.
as for castillo….he may be moved in the right deal. i can see this in a few ways…
1. we eat close to 3/4 of his salary and get back very little in return
2. we have to include either Fmart or another top prospect to unload his salary, getting back another fairly high contract in return [indians, rockies, marlins, dodgers... to name a few] could use a a good fielding 2b and leadoff hitter
3. castillo + beltran moved to a contending team….beltran will be coveted in the offseason, and his contract is reasonible compared to newer contracts….
so, there is hope
i see murphy + a reyes at 2b for the Mets, where castillo is here or not
all credibility lost when you got to the part about beltran. why would anyone want to ever move arguably one of the best CF (if not the best) in all the game?
The reason why someone would want to move arguably one of the best CFs in the game is because that person is ignorant and has no idea that a baseball team is better off keeping Carlos Beltran than trading him.
agreed.
Geez, enough with the Beltran stuff. What else does this guy have to do?!
Murphy should play second next year. Then we need to go and get someone who can put up LF numbers such as a Carlos Lee type player.
Murphy has been great to this team, he has been struggling in comparison to when he first came up. but he’s mostly productive, taking pitches, wasting pitches, being patient, which you don’t see much in rookies anymore. hitting in clutch situation is not easy for rookies. maybe he’s a little big to play 2nd, get him use to the outfield positions or 1st base in 2010??
That comment about trading Beltran is ludacris. The guy is by far the best feilding OF in the NL. And you made the comment yourself, we have him signed relatively cheap. To offload Beltran would be a gigantic mistake in my book.
Murphy is young and has the approach of a veteran. He has a good at bat each and every time. Castillo’s contract was known to be a bad one from day one. Shame on you Omar.
Actually, the hip hop artist from Atlanta is ludacris. The suggestion that Beltran should be traded is ludicrous.
lmao
Guys Castillo will be the starting 2B next season. However, if he falters and is still not healthy then Murphy can come in from LF and take over 2B. This is an insurance move. Nothing more. As for Reyes, I will be that he is not even on the opening day roster much less the primary guy. At least I hope.
Then if you keep Fmart he can eventually come into LF with Evans and whoever the backup is, hopefully Tatis.
The lineup for next season as far as position players will not change that much in my opinion.
However, I said a long time ago be on the look out for Vlad being available.
that idea had nothing to do with credibility…its simply what the mets would have to do to free us of castillo’s contract.
also….
sorry….i would unload beltran and castillo for for holliday and prospect, hopefully resigning him….but not breaking the deal
unloading all that money frees up room to get a REAL power hitter that can sill hit above .275.
granted, he plays great defense…but defense is the last of our problems. biggest problem is clutch hitting and CONSISTANT performance
he is the least consistant 100+mil player, probably in the history of baseball
id rather see church in CF for a year, until Fmar is ready, then see him and castillo again
he is the least consistant 100+mil player, probably in the history of baseball
You made Jason Giambi’s day with that comment.
Defense is the last of our problems because we have the best center fielder in the league patrolling the outfield. Take him out of there, and defense starts becoming a problem.
do you watch baseball??
beltran is a decent if unspectular player
great defense, decent power, low average….and totally not clutch.
he has had his moments…
but is not the star this team is depserate for.
i like him….but this team doesnt live or die without him….and i truly believe we are a BETTER team if we had, say, holliday instead
i dont hate the guy….just was never a fan of a man who earned a $100+ mil contract in 6 wks, is never healthy, rarely hustles, and isnt clutch …..thats a big trade off for a guy who can catch pop flys
so, again…to get rid of castillo, and get even 1 year of holliday…losing him is for a greater good
Who would play CF if you had Holliday?
You serious? Beltran is very underrated, and the only reason “this team doesn’t need defense” is because he’s already there dominating out there. He DOES hustle, he’s one of the smartest players this team has, and hasn’t failed in the clutch any more than Wright or anyone else on the team has.
Is never healthy? LOL you do know he is in the top 3 of games played this season right? Why on earth would you say rarely hustles? Have you watched him play defense? I mean really watched him? Yes there are some balls that bounce in front of him and he knows he can’t get to so he plays them safe. Just because he keeps those plays in front of him does not mean he does not hustle. The guy is hands down the best CF in the NL. You don’t trade that.
There is a difference between watching baseball and understanding baseball.
I’m not saying that A reyes is the answer, but anyone who has been a Mets fan longer than 2 yrs remembers that Jose swung at everything and walked only 1/20 ABs. But Argenis is still young and may get better with time. I actually like Murphy in the OF. I think he has a great arm for the position. The problem with that is what happens to Evans? If Delgado’s option is picked up, you can’t just have Evans as the back-up 1B. Get rid of Marlon, then maybe Evans becomes your all around guy. I don’t know. That’s why I’m not a GM.
But at least Reyes was good in the minors. A. Reyes is just terrible with little or no potential.
…biggest myth is sports. All young players will continue to get better.
A. Reyes is a good guy to have in AAA as an injury replacement for your big league bench. If he is your starting anything there is a big problem with your roster…
Key phrase there was “may get better”. I don’t have a crystal ball.
church was a CF for wash…and as weve seen is a very good OF….merely keeping the seat warm for Fmart
reyes
murphy
wright
holliday
delgado
church
evans/tatis
schneid/castro
is a lot more attractive to me
for our roster….i think a guy with power that hits .300+ with a high OPS is a better solution
it will be dangerous to have beltran and delgado in the same lineup again next year bc of strikeouts and inconsistancy…. i get tired of holding my breath until one of them gets hot
give me consistancy anyday
you are consistently insane with your insane suggestions. There’s your consistency, I’ll keep Beltran. Thanks.
Which is what Beltran gives you every day in CF.
I don’t know what’s you problem with Beltran, but you can’t find a better outfielder than him for the next 2-3 years. The man is a beast out there. Before church came back, when it was Tatis/Easley and Murphy/Evans flanking, he was doing majority of the fielding or positioning them to get the ball. That’s huge! Imagine how many bad play would have taken place if he wasn’t on this team
You are taking a lot more crap than you deserve for this ‘only slightly less than reasonable’ idea.
It wouldnt be terrible, but it wouldnt be an improvement over Beltran.
If the Mets could have kept Carlos Gomez, then moving Beltran to LF would provide a great solution to the OF situation for next year. But any thoughts of moving Beltran out of town or even out of CF left when Gomez went to Minnesota.
Based on your obsession with “consistency,” you’re Joe Morgan. I’m sure of it.
trade our gold glove CF to try to improve the team? Other than maybe Grady Sizemore, name another CF you would rather have than Beltran. Posters on here seem to severly undervalue a players defensive ability (ie throw Murphy at 2nd base next year?)I have a feeling Beltran is the type of player Mets fans won’t fully appreciate until he is gone.
i agree…great defender…his only flaw is that he cant come in on a fly ball…no denying that. but he is the one of the best in baseball
however….our offense is the problem and he is a major problem there. he is not consistant enough for us, especially for this team that is filled with inconsistancy….10 runs one game, 1 run the next. not good. he isnt alone, but for what he was paid to come here and do…we are not getting it
and, yes, the man is NEVER healthy…he doesnt miss games, which is great, but all year…every report is he doesnt run and his power is down because of a leg issue…
we can probably count on 1 hand the amount of times he has been 100% and played like it on one hand…that is a problem
its all good….midway next year when he is mediocre and fmart is tearing up AA/AAA….you will be clamoring for him to get traded….when its simply too late
again…he isnt a bad player, but moving him COULD serve a greater good.
for now, he is what we have, and he does do some good….hopefully its enough to win it all
Anyone who wants to trade in Beltran for Holliday is nuts.
Who will play center :?:
Holliday isn’t a CFer.
And why weaken your offense getting Holliday :?:
Over the last 3 years, Beltran’s road OPS is 100 points higher than Holliday’s. Holliday is evidently in part a product of Coors, which despite the humidor, is still a hitters park. This year it’s the 2nd best hitter’s park in the majors.
The only advantage Holliday has over Beltran is that he’s 3 years younger. Still, it begs the question: Who plays center?
lol this argument is getting tiring. Beltran is one of the best CF in the NL. No need to trade him. End of story.
I know. Let’s get Jay Peyton back on the cheap.
actually…only his hrs are a product of coors…
his road #’s SMASH beltrans home #’s…
and he is still a consistant .300 hitter who has even rbi’s home vs away
everyone that makes comments bashing holliday only see the power drop. his power #’s still reflect a .300+ hitter, 30+ hrs, and 100+rbi’s…if you took only his away #’s
i think thats exactly what this offense is missing
again…church moves BACK to CF, where he played in the minors and in Wash, keeping the seat warm for Fmart
yes, we will lose some defense, but the team will look totally different, probably have a different energy, and be a lot more consistant.
imagine the excitement shown by church, wright, holliday, and reyes…while being able to see kids like murphy, fmart, and evans see regular time [not out of necessity, but by plan]
id take that
Matt Holliday:
2008-
Home OPS 1.088
Road OPS .877
Home OBP .444
Road OBP .394
Career-
Home OPS 1.087
Road OPS .798
Home OBP .429
Road OBP .344
Please explain to me how this is only a drop in numbers. Also, if you insist on using average as a barometer, he has a career away average of .278, right in line with Beltran’s career .279 away average. Not to mention Beltran’s .849 career OPS and far superior defense.
I’ll stick with what the Mets have.
er… only a drop in POWER numbers.
again…only reason i do that is to move castillo’s contract…
and if you noticed…it wasnt my 1st choice
just a possibility for moving a large unwanted contract…which may be worth looking into
for as much as i dont like about him….i still think he is a great player and his defense will be missed.
i for one, hope we find other ways to move castillo’s contract…i dont care if we have to pay a lot of it…its just not worth it
im still scared to see delgado and beltran in the lineup together… and one should go after this year. they are 2 guys that play “AL” type baseball…which doesnt mesh with reyes, wright, church, and even murphy….
id rather see us bring in a 1b and move castillo
delgado is hot right now and is a very solid player, but like castillo…when he is bad…its just pathetic
Actually … NOT :!:
Holliday’s BA, OBP and SLG all are a product of Coors. Big time.
All his basic offensive numbers are a product of Coors. Including RBIs. He’s got nearly 100 more RBIs at home than on the road over the last 3 years.
And whoever heard of comparing someone’s road numbers to the number someone puts up in a PITCHERS PARK :?: That makes zero sense and is totally illogical.
Forget about Church playing center. He’d probably get hurt. He’s never played CF fulltime in his life.
Holliday in addition to Beltran is a good idea. But the Mets won’t ever give up what it takes to get him.
Holliday instead of Beltran is a bad idea.
Plus, we know Beltran can produce in NY. Can Holliday :?: Maybe not.
You compare road stats to road stats to even the playing field. And you use 3-year stats if available to make the sample size more valid. You DON”T ever compare someone’s home stats in a pitcher’s park to someone else’s road stats. That’s oranges to apples.
Off-season for Mets
Resign Oliver Perez to 4-year deal worth $40-48 mil
explanation: The Mets need Perez’s production in the rotation. He is probably the most stable rotation option for the Mets outside of CC Sabathia, believe it or not (unless you want the oft-injured Sheets). The Mets farm may provide Niese as a fifth starter, but otherwise there is little SP depth. If the asking price is above $48 million, which is already a stretch, the Mets should look into difference pitchers.
Opt out of Delgado’s contract, see if Tex is available for 5 year, $75 million
Explanation: Delgado will be another year older next year, and $12 or $16 million is a lot to pay. Also, there may be a gap in 2010 if we don’t get a long term solution with little in the free agency to fill that gap. In addtion, Tex is a switch hitter, so he can help to fill the gap lost by losing Delgado against right handed pitching. The Yankees don’t need Tex, so our strongest opponents for the 1B would be the Indians, Angels, and Jays. Undoubtedly, the Mets would have a chance to renegotiate with Carlos. If Perez doesn’t resign, the Mets should keep Delgado and direct their funds to CC Sabathia or Ben Sheets, or to pitching in general.
Sign Wes Helms to 1 year contract
Explanation: A backup, right handed corner infielder would be a nice addition for the Mets, and would be a useful platoon man with Mike Carp, should Tex get injured. Helms also has corner outfield experience
Sign Rocco Baldelli to 1 or 2 year contract
Explanation: Baldelli would fill Fernando Tatis’ 2008 role, being a right handed 4th outfielder, and Baldelli has good potential. Rocco would be good to fill in for injured players.
And that’s pretty much it.
Wow, those are things that just can’t and won’t happen.
Perez is going to be in line for at least 4 years 52 million.
Tex is looking for 8 years 160 million. Why on earth would he settle for 5/75? You might get 5/125.
A first baseman looking for 8 years $160 million?
Buddy, you and I both know that won’t happen. Look at the man’s contract history:
4 years/$9.5M (2002-05)
2 years/$15.4M (2006-07)
1 year/$12.5M (2008)
Also, there are no real contenders to pay that kind of cash. Think of the teams that need first basemen:
Angels: Almost over their heads in financial commitment already, could easily put Kendrick at first, need Closer to replace K-Rod.
Indians: Cannot afford that gargantuan contract, have prospect Beau Mills, also have Ryan Garko
Blue Jays: Swamped in financial commitment to Vernon Wells, AJ Burnett and others, the Jays’ payroll is already going to reach a franchise high.
Reds: Already armed with Joey Votto at first and a very nicely stocked farm system, the Reds would probably avoid large term contracts, would probably be bigger contenders for veteran outfielders or SPs (Bobby Abreu, Derrek Lowe, Pat Burrell).
Yankees: Will probably spend most of their money on CC Sabathia, have Jorge Posada and Xavier Nady as first base options.
As for Perez, no other team will take that kind of risk for Perez. 4 years $48 million is as much as he’ll get, and it’ll be from the Mets.
Haha Doc. I see we share the same feelings
Your description of his demeanor is spot on.