Comments on: Note: Church is getting his Stroke Back http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gameball http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317750 gameball Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:52:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317750 I don't think you'll see Perez on 3 days rest. I don’t think you’ll see Perez on 3 days rest.

]]> By: TheBigStapler http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317554 TheBigStapler Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:51:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317554 Check Mets Geek for a post about the upcoming series. They do a great job breaking down the pitching matchups. Big Pelf over Myers, obviously. I'd give Moyer the edge over Pedro. We all know there's a much better pitcher somewhere deep inside Pedro but he must exorcise the demon that hinders him. And get real, Phillies: Santana is better than Hamels. Hamels is exceptional but Santana is the Mack Daddy-o. Check Mets Geek for a post about the upcoming series. They do a great job breaking down the pitching matchups.

Big Pelf over Myers, obviously.

I’d give Moyer the edge over Pedro. We all know there’s a much better pitcher somewhere deep inside Pedro but he must exorcise the demon that hinders him.

And get real, Phillies: Santana is better than Hamels. Hamels is exceptional but Santana is the Mack Daddy-o.

]]> By: kistics http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317550 kistics Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:48:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317550 Pelf/Myers - Pelf is taller Pedro/Moyer - Pedro has better hairstyle Johan/Hmels - uh... Johan has more money Advantage Mets... Pelf/Myers – Pelf is taller

Pedro/Moyer – Pedro has better hairstyle

Johan/Hmels – uh… Johan has more money

Advantage Mets…

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317549 ravi3 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:47:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317549 Lets look at how the pitchers have fared against the opposing team this season: <b>Friday</b>: Myers: 1GS, 0-0, 5.40era, 5IP, 3H, 3R, 5/2 BB/K, .167BAA Pelf: 2GS, 1-0, 5.40era, 10IP, 15H, 6R, 4/5 BB/K, .349BAA <b>Saturday</b>: Moyer: 5GS, 1-1, 4.40era, 28.2IP, 29H, 14R, 3/15 BB/K, .261 BAA Pedro: 2GS, 1-0, 6.10era, 10.1IP, 12H, 7R, 5/14 BB/K, .286BAA <b>Sunday</b>: Hamels: 1GS, 0-1, 5.14era, 7IP, 8H, 5R, 3/4 BB/K, .286BAA Santana: 4GS, 1-0, 3.10era, 29IP, 23H, 10R, 3/26 BB/K, .213BAA Perez: 4GS, 1-0, 0.35era!!, 26 IP, 17H, 1R!!, 11/27 BB/K, .181BAA To me, looking at the stats on the surface shows that the pitching matchups are fairly even. However, they don't identify underlying trends. For example, Pelfrey was hit hard in his first start against the Phils early in the season, but its fair to say he has become a different pitcher, and had a good start against the Phils last time out. Of course Myers has also improved since his last start against the Mets. Last week, the Mets were FINALLY able to get to Moyer, hit him hard, and take him out of the game early. Is that a sign of things to come? Pedro on the otherhand, was staked to very big leads in both starts, and likely changed how he would normally attack the hitter, going after him more. I threw Perez in here because he is the wild card. Should the Mets decide to skip Pedro, which we have heard some chatter about, then I'd guess you'd see Santana on Saturday and Ollie on Sunday. If that happens, the Mets have the clear cut advantage. Lets look at how the pitchers have fared against the opposing team this season:

Friday:
Myers: 1GS, 0-0, 5.40era, 5IP, 3H, 3R, 5/2 BB/K, .167BAA
Pelf: 2GS, 1-0, 5.40era, 10IP, 15H, 6R, 4/5 BB/K, .349BAA

Saturday:
Moyer: 5GS, 1-1, 4.40era, 28.2IP, 29H, 14R, 3/15
BB/K, .261 BAA
Pedro: 2GS, 1-0, 6.10era, 10.1IP, 12H, 7R, 5/14
BB/K, .286BAA

Sunday:
Hamels: 1GS, 0-1, 5.14era, 7IP, 8H, 5R, 3/4
BB/K, .286BAA
Santana: 4GS, 1-0, 3.10era, 29IP, 23H, 10R, 3/26
BB/K, .213BAA

Perez: 4GS, 1-0, 0.35era!!, 26 IP, 17H, 1R!!, 11/27
BB/K, .181BAA

To me, looking at the stats on the surface shows that the pitching matchups are fairly even. However, they don’t identify underlying trends.

For example, Pelfrey was hit hard in his first start against the Phils early in the season, but its fair to say he has become a different pitcher, and had a good start against the Phils last time out. Of course Myers has also improved since his last start against the Mets.

Last week, the Mets were FINALLY able to get to Moyer, hit him hard, and take him out of the game early. Is that a sign of things to come? Pedro on the otherhand, was staked to very big leads in both starts, and likely changed how he would normally attack the hitter, going after him more.

I threw Perez in here because he is the wild card. Should the Mets decide to skip Pedro, which we have heard some chatter about, then I’d guess you’d see Santana on Saturday and Ollie on Sunday. If that happens, the Mets have the clear cut advantage.

]]> By: Gary Busey http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317548 Gary Busey Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:47:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317548 Ugh, how did I miss that? The Procede must be eating away at my brain. Ugh, how did I miss that? The Procede must be eating away at my brain.

]]> By: Chan Ho Parking Lot http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317539 Chan Ho Parking Lot Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:39:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317539 Our former first round draft pick vs their former first round draft pick. Our former first round draft pick vs their former first round draft pick.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman II http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317534 Free Aaron Heilman II Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:35:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317534 I don't care what a Philly blog says. Games and pennants are won on the field, not on paper. I like the Mets chances this weekend to take at least 2 out of 3. <b>TV Alert</b>: Tonight SNY broadcasts the Cyclones game. Wilmer Flores, who some think is now the organization's top prospect, is now playing for the Cylones. He's just 17! The Cyclones have a 1/2 game lead in the wild card with 3 games left to play. So it will be an interesting game to catch. I don’t care what a Philly blog says. Games and pennants are won on the field, not on paper. I like the Mets chances this weekend to take at least 2 out of 3.

TV Alert: Tonight SNY broadcasts the Cyclones game. Wilmer Flores, who some think is now the organization’s top prospect, is now playing for the Cylones. He’s just 17! The Cyclones have a 1/2 game lead in the wild card with 3 games left to play. So it will be an interesting game to catch.

]]> By: Flushing_is_Burning http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317532 Flushing_is_Burning Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:33:51 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317532 a push on the 2nd and 3rd match-up, but I think Big Pelf has the advantage on 1st game. a push on the 2nd and 3rd match-up, but I think Big Pelf has the advantage on 1st game.

]]> By: CaseStreet http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317531 CaseStreet Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:32:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317531 I have to say, I really like the platoons in the outfield corners. It keeps the guys fresh and puts them in the best situation to get on base. I hope it'll continue to have success. I have to say, I really like the platoons in the outfield corners. It keeps the guys fresh and puts them in the best situation to get on base. I hope it’ll continue to have success.

]]> By: Gary Busey http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317530 Gary Busey Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:29:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/04/note-church-is-getting-his-stroke-back/#comment-317530 I just realized how parallel the matchups seem to be -- our old guy vs. their old guy, our ace vs. their ace...I can't really explain Pelfrey/Myers. Our pitcher who had to go back to AAA before coming back and dominating vs. theirs? I just realized how parallel the matchups seem to be — our old guy vs. their old guy, our ace vs. their ace…I can’t really explain Pelfrey/Myers. Our pitcher who had to go back to AAA before coming back and dominating vs. theirs?

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